iPhone XS, XS Max Are World's Fastest Phones (Again) (tomsguide.com) 130
According to "several real-world tests and synthetic benchmarks," the new iPhone XS and XS Max, equipped with the world's first 7-nanometer A12 Bionic processor, are the world's fastest smartphones, reports Tom's Guide. They even significantly outperform Qualcomm's Snapdragon 845 chip. From the report: Geekbench 4 is a benchmark that measures overall performance, and no other phone comes close to Apple's new handsets on this test. The iPhone Xs notched 11,420, and the iPhone Xs Max hit 11,515. The older iPhone X scored 10,357, so that's about an 11 percent improvement. There's a lot more distance between the new iPhones and Android flagships. The fastest Android phone around, the OnePlus 6, scored 9,088 on Geekbench 4 with its 8GB of RAM, while the Galaxy Note 9 reached 8,876.
To test real-world performance, we use the Adobe Premiere Clips app to transcode a 2-minute 4K video to 1080p. The iPhone X was miles ahead last year with a time of just 42 seconds. This time around, the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max knocked it down further to 39 seconds. The Galaxy S9+ took 2 minutes and 32 seconds to complete the task, and that's the fastest we've seen from an Android phone. The OnePlus 6 finished in 3:45, and the LG G7 ThinQ took 3:16. One good way to measure real-world performance is to see how long it takes for a phone to load demanding apps. Because the phones have the same processor for this round, we just used the iPhone Xs Max and put it up against the iPhone X and the Galaxy Note 9. The iPhone XS Max was faster every time, including a 15-second victory in Fortnite over the Note 9 and 3-second win in Asphalt 9. The phones were closer in Pokemon Go but the iPhone XS Max still came out on top. The new iPhones did lag behind the competition in the 3DMark Slingshot Extreme test, which measures graphics performance by evaluating everything from rendering to volumetric lighting. The iPhone XS Max and iPhone X received scores of 4,244 and 4,339, respectively, while the OnePlus 6 received a score of 5,124.
As for the GFXBench 5 test, the iPhone XS Max achieved 1,604.7 frames on the Aztec Ruins portion of the test, and 1,744.44 frames in the Car Chase test," reports Tom's Guide. "The Note 9 was far behind at 851.7 and 1,103 frames, respectively. However, the Galaxy S9+ edged past the iPhone XS Max on this test."
To test real-world performance, we use the Adobe Premiere Clips app to transcode a 2-minute 4K video to 1080p. The iPhone X was miles ahead last year with a time of just 42 seconds. This time around, the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max knocked it down further to 39 seconds. The Galaxy S9+ took 2 minutes and 32 seconds to complete the task, and that's the fastest we've seen from an Android phone. The OnePlus 6 finished in 3:45, and the LG G7 ThinQ took 3:16. One good way to measure real-world performance is to see how long it takes for a phone to load demanding apps. Because the phones have the same processor for this round, we just used the iPhone Xs Max and put it up against the iPhone X and the Galaxy Note 9. The iPhone XS Max was faster every time, including a 15-second victory in Fortnite over the Note 9 and 3-second win in Asphalt 9. The phones were closer in Pokemon Go but the iPhone XS Max still came out on top. The new iPhones did lag behind the competition in the 3DMark Slingshot Extreme test, which measures graphics performance by evaluating everything from rendering to volumetric lighting. The iPhone XS Max and iPhone X received scores of 4,244 and 4,339, respectively, while the OnePlus 6 received a score of 5,124.
As for the GFXBench 5 test, the iPhone XS Max achieved 1,604.7 frames on the Aztec Ruins portion of the test, and 1,744.44 frames in the Car Chase test," reports Tom's Guide. "The Note 9 was far behind at 851.7 and 1,103 frames, respectively. However, the Galaxy S9+ edged past the iPhone XS Max on this test."
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yeah sure... I bet those are even faster than an i5.... ofc on geekbench.
" real-world performance, we use the Adobe Premiere Clips app to transcode a 2-minute 4K video to 1080p"
real world performance... all Instagram thotts buy iphones just to transcode clips.
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I think someone needs to transcode your comment. It doesn't appear to be in a parseable format.
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He'd better get an iPhone then.
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Benchmarking comes into play when you are comparing like devices.
But where were these posts when Sun Microsystems was still around and their slower clock speed 64bit risc chips. Were called slow to Intels 32bit high clock chips. While one chip was made for handling high loads for long times while the other was for burst of speed.
That said. Being that high end mobile device are competing against modern mid-tier systems is saying a lot. Back in late 1990s. Your palm pilot would be about as powerful as an 8
And battery life (Score:2)
What's more impressive than speed is having that speed without much difference in battery life and having a larger screen size to boot.
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It's got one of them bionic processors.... (Score:2)
Of course it's going to be the fastest!
Notched (Score:5, Funny)
The iPhone Xs notched 11,420
I see what you did there.
WooooHooo? (Score:5, Insightful)
Brings to mind Frank DeFord's book, "The World's tallest Midget".
It's a friggin Phone for crissakes.
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Did someone just fart?
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It's a friggin Phone for crissakes.
If that's what you think then you paid about $800 too much for your phone.
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It's a friggin Phone for crissakes.
If that's what you think then you paid about $800 too much for your phone.
I'm trying to imagine exactly what the OmygawdI'vegottheworld'sfastestsmartphone!!!!! Is going to do for me.
Can you tell me what actual thing it is going to do better?
You get a free pass if your hobby is benchmarking. Well, a snicker too. But other than beating other phones in benchmarking, maybe Candy Crush runs faster. But I don't play Candy Crush.
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You keep calling it a phone. It should come to no surprise to anyone that you wouldn't know what to do with a modern device.
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You keep calling it a phone. It should come to no surprise to anyone that you wouldn't know what to do with a modern device.
The best Smartphone is a lot more a phone than a computer. Are you going to code or edit images, or create videos professionally on your smartphone?
Yeah, you can make phone calls, you can send texts, you can play simple games on it. You can do a little crappy web surfing on it.
Oh - and you can tether a real computer onto it so you can actually do something.
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Are you going to code or edit images
Err yes. One of my gripes is that my smartphone is slow to open 50mpxl images in Lightroom. I know seveal photographers who use their pocket computers as part of their arsenal in photoshoots. My phone is also a bit slow at playing back videos larger than 5K. It could be a bit better for streaming and gaming. When I edit videos for uploading on Instagram it could be a damn site faster. And as it's a work pocket computer and I have actual problems with accessing the schedule for the task I'm doing at the mome
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You lack imagination if you're using it as a phone. And with your lack of imagination you are better off not spending money on something fast. In other news I don't run 100 VMs on my computer so no one cares about Threadripper or Core i9s right? Right?
Yeah, using tools made for the job is lacking imagination. I'm trying to imagine the prime professional work of a professional using a smartphone for photography.
Next up you are going to tell me that a smartphone cameras are the equal of a good DSLR. I can and have used a smartphone camera instead of my Nikon DSLR. But then again, I have used Diana cameras - I'm planning a project of mating a imaging chip on the back of one.
But using a smartphone cam or a Diana can be creative because it creates limita
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Yeah, using tools made for the job is lacking imagination. I'm trying to imagine the prime professional work of a professional using a smartphone for photography.
What other quick auto preview monitor that can apply the predefined functions of your fancy macbook would your recommend for said professional for sub $1000 (or more accurately sub $600 since a halfway decent phone costs money too)? Do you lug around yet another piece of special purpose kit when instead you can achieve the job you require on something that multi-tasks? To be clear I didn't say I know anyone who uses *the camera* in their smartphone in a photoshoot. That would be outright silly.
Next up you are going to tell me that a smartphone cameras are the equal of a good DSLR.
Of course! In
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Yeah, using tools made for the job is lacking imagination. I'm trying to imagine the prime professional work of a professional using a smartphone for photography.
What other quick auto preview monitor that can apply the predefined functions of your fancy macbook would your recommend for said professional for sub $1000 (or more accurately sub $600 since a halfway decent phone costs money too)? Do you lug around yet another piece of special purpose kit when instead you can achieve the job you require on something that multi-tasks?
Yes. If I make imagery, I certainly wouldn't preview them on a smartphone - nor would I ever re-hire someone who did. Hell man - travel and scene setup is expensive, and especially if you are going for print medium, you simply are not going to see it on a smartphone.
I lug around whatever equipment I have to to do a proper job. Yes, I take a laptop - which is marginal for the purpose. Editing is performed on a desktop with a good calibrated monitor.
That is true - you didn't Some people have tried to argue
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Yes. If I make imagery, I certainly wouldn't preview them on a smartphone
I know a 2" screen on the back of a camera is much better.
nor would I ever re-hire someone who did
I also apply stupid criteria to my hiring decisions! Like I don't hire photographers who don't own a backpack with compartments. Because let's face it, their method is far more important than the work they would produce.
Hell man - travel and scene setup is expensive, and especially if you are going for print medium, you simply are not going to see it on a smartphone.
Really? Personally my own most expensive commissioned work cost me $4.30 (two metro fares) and 20min. But yay let's generalise.
I lug around whatever equipment I have to to do a proper job.
Yeah so does everyone.
Editing is performed on a desktop with a good calibrated monitor.
Of course it is. You'd be mad not to. However last time I returned from vacation I a
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Yes. If I make imagery, I certainly wouldn't preview them on a smartphone
I know a 2" screen on the back of a camera is much better.
That's one of the reasons to have the laptop along. As I said, it's marginal, but especially for location work, the best compromise.
nor would I ever re-hire someone who did
I also apply stupid criteria to my hiring decisions! Like I don't hire photographers who don't own a backpack with compartments. Because let's face it, their method is far more important than the work they would produce.
There are some yet to be broken laws of physics that smartphones have not surmounted yet. Like depth of field precise control, and the inherent characteristics of the shutters which on rotating things like tires or propellers is a dead giveaway. All of those scream "I shot this on a smartphone! I suppose if for some reason the work was supposed to look amateurish, then you want
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There are some yet to be broken laws of physics that smartphones have not surmounted yet.
I think before we continue this all needs to be re-read. I'm not sure why you think I said anyone was using a smartphone camera....
We're arguing past each other. 8^)
That much is now plainly clear :-)
But just to provide context on my last use: Photoshoot with a quality camera with the WiFi module. Galaxy Note used as a larger display, at least I thought it worked really well last time I did it like this. Galaxy Note used in airport lobby to cull initial 1000 photos down to something reasonable. Using the Lightroom mobile I did some minor cha
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Why refute it? When the phone's this overpriced, I expect that level of performance. And maybe plated in silver too.
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Why refute it? When the phone's this overpriced, I expect that level of performance. And maybe plated in silver too.
But Samsung makes phones that are even PRICIER than the iPhone, and yet their performance is Pants.
Qualcomm should stick to their core competence: RF.
Now what?
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Overpriced? They're all in the same ballpark, whether they're top of the line iPhones or top of the line Samsungs. Not sure about LG.
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I never said other top of the line phones weren't overpriced. Apple does try to represent top of the line as the only viable option, but they're not that different from the rest.
The catch with all previous Apple processors (Score:5, Interesting)
has been is that they are thermally constrained and achieve these remarkable results when its starts cold. As soon it heats up the processors starts throttling and doesn't do well compared to Qualcomm, Exynos etc.
This is why it does well on Geekbench benchmarks but not so well in some of the other benchmarks.
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has been is that they are thermally constrained and achieve these remarkable results when its starts cold. As soon it heats up the processors starts throttling and doesn't do well compared to Qualcomm, Exynos etc.
This is why it does well on Geekbench benchmarks but not so well in some of the other benchmarks.
Prove it, or STFU
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BRB, spending $1200 to appease a slashdot commenter.
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Yeah, it seems like thermal throttling is a real thing https://imgur.com/OThPVWb [imgur.com] pretty much across the board. Probably because without they would never achieve warranty as the devices would basically cook themselves to death.
Need new power test, how long do the devices run at full output before slowing done and then beyond that dying, simply overheating to death or shutdown (probably shutdown, again to preserve warranty but wait why should warranty be protected if the device is shutting down and not worki
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STFU, or disprove it
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STFU, or disprove it
I didn't make the original "allegation", dumbass.
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STFU, or disprove it
I didn't make the original "allegation", dumbass.
And you did nothing to refute it, dumberass. You can go around questioning everything in the world, but when people get annoyed at you because you have no evidence that doesn't make you right.
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STFU, or disprove it
I didn't make the original "allegation", dumbass.
And you did nothing to refute it, dumberass. You can go around questioning everything in the world, but when people get annoyed at you because you have no evidence that doesn't make you right.
Sorry. It doesn't work that way.
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It is the person making the claim that has to provide the evidence.
Expressing skepticism about someone's claim is not a claim itself, and requires no evidence.
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I suggested that Geekbench add a pre-heating function, but no sign of it yet.
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A matter of opinion here, but I've always liked Android's stock UI better. Besides, if you want something different, you can just install a launcher. This sort of flexibility is a big plus for Android.
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A matter of opinion here, but I've always liked Android's stock UI better. Besides, if you want something different, you can just install a launcher. This sort of flexibility is a big plus for Android.
...I hope that it makes up for the 700,000 Malware-filled Apps that Google found on the Play Store...
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Don't worry, there is plenty of malware in the Apple App Store as well.
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Don't worry, there is plenty of malware in the Apple App Store as well.
Prove it. And define "Plenty".
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Did you try googling it?
First result: https://us.norton.com/internet... [norton.com]
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Did you try googling it?
First result: https://us.norton.com/internet... [norton.com]
Try again.
That was over 2 years ago, affected pretty much only people who didn't want to bother downloading the FREE XCode from the App Store (for WHATEVER inexplicable reason!), and was actually never PROVEN to contain Malware, IIRC).
And even if it WAS infected, that's STILL 699,999 : 1
Hardly "Plenty" by ANY definition.
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who the fuck would offload actual work onto a phone?
Queen for a day (Score:1)
The most recently announced flagship has the fastest processor. Because of moving to a new process node that all flagships will soon be shipping. And...?
BTW, only 15% faster than Qualcomm 845 whereas TSMC says 7nm gives at least 20% speedup vs 10nm. [tsmc.com] So, lame.
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The year-old iPhone X is second fastest. Maybe Android will catch it next year.
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Qualcomm 845 hammers iPhone X in GPU [anandtech.com] which means Qualcomm is faster for games. Probably beats the XS too, and the Qualcomm is almost a year older. Apple spent a bunch of transistors in the wrong place.
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Well next time I plug my iphone into the tv set and drop a game disk into the slot I'll keep that in mind.
Meanwhile I'll keep using my phone for things that aren't games...
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OK, so you know that iPhone is inferior for games. And maybe you also know that Mobile Gaming Is Now Bigger than Console and PC Gaming Combined. [mobvista.com]
Pressing buttons in a mobile game (Score:2)
Not all video game genres are amenable to the sort of point-and-click play commonly associated with the input device that ships with every smartphone. Pressing one of more than two different virtual buttons at the side of the screen is an exercise in frustration, as if I'm focusing on the real-time action in the middle of the screen, I have no cues with which to align my thumbs over the buttons. I'm aware that physical controllers for phones exist, but let me know when a manufacturer of such controllers pub
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Well yeah, I hate gaming on a phone just as much as you. But that doesn't change the fact, most games today are played on phones, and increasingly those are GPU intensive 3D games, not just plants vs zombies crap.
Faster "phone" (Score:2)
It would be an even faster phone if the voice of the person you were talking to was less garbled.
"Real world performance" (Score:2)
Benchmarks for iPhones always talk about "real world performance", but rarely factor in that software can't run at full-speed on an iPhone for very long before thermal management kicks in and throttles the speeds down. This fact alone makes comparisons to laptop and desktop CPUs virtually worthless.
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Benchmarks for iPhones always talk about "real world performance", but rarely factor in that software can't run at full-speed on an iPhone for very long before thermal management kicks in and throttles the speeds down. This fact alone makes comparisons to laptop and desktop CPUs virtually worthless.
Prove it.
And, while you're at it; prove that Android phones don't do the same thing. Considering the voracious appetite for battery that the Qualcomm SoC crap demonstrates, I would imagine that thermal issues would be MUCH worse in those phones...
The real question is now (Score:2)
When will Apple switch OSX desktops and laptops to its ARM chips? I think they could give Intel a serious competition.
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Forget the laptops. I wanna see OSX on the phone with some sort of dock so I can drop a phone into it and use it as my main PC. Its honestly not that far off, these days, its just iOS would not be an ideal desktop os. But OSX with an iOS mode that could drop in and out of depending on docked, that'd be pretty awesome. I know ubuntu did some experiments to this effect, I'm just not sure anyon
Nice how about price/performance (Score:2)
Phones are fast enough already, aren't they? (Score:2)
What applications are people putting their phones to where the extra speed of the newer iPhones (and Androids, for that matter) actually matters?
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Same here. My 6s is as snappy as the day I bought it. That's the main attraction to iOS for me, it's responsive like a device should be. I can count on it.
It does what I want a smartphone to do: handle calls and texts, maybe run the odd game when I'm at the doctor's waiting room, and provide away-from-home Internet access once in a while; I don't need a toy pocket computer, I have a desktop and a laptop for serious computing at home.
That said, I hate iTunes, and I think the iPhone is, ironically, a lousy
Does This Matter? (Score:2)
How bout that glass? (Score:2)
Stats and percentages... (Score:2)
... are all they're selling because there's nothing new otherwise.
Remember when Apple would launch a cool new feature (like MMS ... lol) with each phone generation? Now they launch percentages and benchmarks.
Other than the necessity to keep reasonably current for support and updates, there's just no significant benefit to upgrading your phone these days. Apples presentation makes that crystal clear if you compare it to one for a few years back.
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No, it's because QUALCOMM is not licensing AptX to Apple. CSR was purchased by Qualcomm years ago, and AptX went along with it. (The logo is AptX by Qualcomm now)
Of course, it doesn't help that Qualcomm and Apple are trading lawsuits with each other, causing the removal of AptX support from everything else as well.
LDAC support is a possibility, because Sony is basically giving LDAC away (it
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Now I know why Android is the choice of dogs buying smartphones.
Weird how you pivoted from a lengthy discussion on Bluetooth into a discussion on iOS APIs.
Why not? iOS does not support any high quality Bluetooth stack, flat out. And then it was brought up about how iOS doesn't support high res audio - which I've given information to support. Don't see where things were pivoted by me.
Almost seems like you forgot that you can still plug headphones into an iPhone.
You can? Oh, you mean with an extra little dongle? The one you have to buy now? And still be limited to low-res/standard-res audio files digitally?
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No, it is correct. The iPhone does not include a headphone jack. You can buy an external jack/adapter for it, but it does not have a jack. And it does not support any Bluetooth other than SBC and AAC - neither of which is more than 320 kbps, and are decidedly NOT high quality wireless audio. The comment is perfectly valid.
Unless your contention is that there IS a headphone jack on the iPhone, or that 320 kbps audio is high quality?
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As the phone does not include a headphone jack it is restricted to low quality wireless audio.
Really? Did someone remove the Lightning port while I wasn't looking?
Idiot.
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The Lightning port is not removed but is currently in use for charging.
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The Lightning port is not removed but is currently in use for charging.
All the time?
And have you noticed they have THESE?
https://www.amazon.com/CaseyPo... [amazon.com]
Or, if you want really nice support, this one has a 3.5mm jack (with I think microphone support) AND a Lightning Headset Jack (although only one of the audio-interfaces can be used at a time), AND a Lightning Charging Port: Yes, it has a little "enclosure"; but I assume that you won't be charging while walking around with your phone; so it hardly fucking matters:
https://www.amazon.com/Compati... [amazon.com]
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Or, if you want really nice support
Thanks. I'll try to remember to mention the Zerkar splitter for when haters ask the same question. Now if only there were the same thing for Game Boy Advance SP...
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Or, if you want really nice support
Thanks. I'll try to remember to mention the Zerkar splitter for when haters ask the same question. Now if only there were the same thing for Game Boy Advance SP...
Sorry, can't help you there.
I did notice that some people reported getting the dreaded "Unsupported Device" Error; but since that didn't happen to EVERYONE... ?