Slashdot Asks: Should Android OEMs Adopt the iPhone's Notch? 240
Earlier this year, Bloomberg reported that Google was currently working on a "dramatic redesign" of its Android OS -- one that embraces the "notch" made popular by the iPhone X. A couple weeks after that report was published, Mobile World Congress was happening, and the biggest trend among Android OEMs was the introduction of a notch in their smartphones. The Verge's Vlad Savov argues that Android smartphone manufacturers are straight up copying the iPhone's design with "more speed and cynicism" than ever before.
Should Android original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) adopt the iPhone's display notch? A display notch can offer a greater screen-to-body ratio, for example, but lower overall aesthetic value. It can also create a headache for developers who need to update their apps to account for the notch that eats into the actual display area. What are your thoughts on display notches? Should Android OEMs adopt the iPhone X's display notch in their devices?
If you're not a fan of notches for aesthetic reasons, you may like the solution that OnePlus has come up with. The company will soon be launching their notch-equipped OnePlus 6 smartphone, but will allow OnePlus 6 owners to "hide" the device's notch via software. Users will have the option to black out the background of the notifications and status bar if they so desire.
Should Android original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) adopt the iPhone's display notch? A display notch can offer a greater screen-to-body ratio, for example, but lower overall aesthetic value. It can also create a headache for developers who need to update their apps to account for the notch that eats into the actual display area. What are your thoughts on display notches? Should Android OEMs adopt the iPhone X's display notch in their devices?
If you're not a fan of notches for aesthetic reasons, you may like the solution that OnePlus has come up with. The company will soon be launching their notch-equipped OnePlus 6 smartphone, but will allow OnePlus 6 owners to "hide" the device's notch via software. Users will have the option to black out the background of the notifications and status bar if they so desire.
Popular? (Score:5, Insightful)
Really? "Popular" seems a bit of a stretch.
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But it was made _cheap_ by the iPhone X.
Apple were predicting far higher sales for the iPhone X than happened, and Samsung were geared up to make notched displays to meet that demand. Except the demand never came and now Samsung need to find other ways to offload the notched screens, or take a hit.
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The OP must figure that two wrongs make a right - the Essential Phone had a notch before the iPhone.
Re:Popular? (Score:5, Informative)
I wouldn't call the Notch popular. It was a design decision. There is a bunch of hardware Apple wanted to put on top of the screen. Dot Projector, Speaker, and Camera. That equipment didn't fill up the whole top of the display, So apple decided to extend the screen around the free spots. To put mostly the notification information, vs the normal title bar which normally has a lot of white/black space.
The iPhone X is my primary phone, but I have no real love for it. It is just there, If other makers do not need the notch because their hardware they want to cram up top, is thinner, then all the better. While I don't hate the notch either, some Applications it does get in the way, and Most programs are built around the idea of a rectangle screen.
Should Android phones put in the notch? It depends if they need it or not. The Galaxy S9 doesn't, and it is a nice looking phone, it doesn't look like a lot of screen space is wasted with bevels or chins. But it is a tall phone, compared to the iPhone. So if Samsung wanted most of the same screen space and a little shorter, then they may want to use a notch in its design.
The notches popularity is like hinges on Laptops. Some times they are out of the way and not visible, (usually limiting the screen rotation area) some time they are just sticking out there getting caught on strings in your bag. But you laptop screen and flip 180 degrees. They are not there because of a deep love in hinges, but the fact it is a practical aspect of the device.
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Does the title bar really have that much space though?
I guess it depends on the phone size, but mine fits 14 things.
Currently, I have 12. PayPal, email, text, voicemail, photo, podcast I'm listening to, pay store, Bluetooth status, vibrate, wifi status, battery (the time is there too).
Sure, I'm deleting a few of those right now, but I often have all of the statuses (5), 2 emails, what I'm listening to, Facebook. That's 9 of the 12 already. The notch is a bad design for my usage, and I bet some people get ev
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I don't quite get your point?
LG has had something similar for years now and it doesn't require any additional software support. They simply put a second tiny screen next to the big screen and use it for certain functions. Wouldn't the software need to be altered to use those additional screens? iOS for non-x software works fine, we just got black bars.
It works fairly well and I like having it, but not enough to buy any more LG phones after the numerous times I've had to have this handset replaced due to man
Re:Popular? (Score:4, Informative)
LG's solution keeps applications out of the "notch-side" display area, so they don't have to be aware of it. 0 applications broke due to LG's design, more than 0 applications broke due to Apple's design; ergo, Apple screwed up their design.
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Maybe next trip to the US where they do seem to sell.
I prefer what was done on the OnePlus3, the fingerprint sensor doubles as the 'return to desktop' and left and right of it are sensitive areas working as the 'return' and 'list' buttons that would otherwise litter the screen.
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Everyone wants invisible transparent sensors and cameras with a wall-to-wall display.
Not going to happen, so the notch is a compromise. I doubt Apple likes it either, but it is one of those laws-of-physics things you have to deal with.
law of physics? lol, no (Score:3)
[looks hard at Galaxy S9]
Nope. Don't have to deal with it. Not a law of physics.
The notch is just really stupid design.
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No one likes the #$%?&* notch. It was a terrible headache to update our apps. It's stupid. Doesn't serve a single purpose.
No one cares for round corners either.
FTS. Ives needs to take a long vacation.
Re:Popular? (Score:4, Interesting)
Personally, I like the look of the iPhone X and it would have been my next phone (instead of the S9 Plus I upgraded to) if they'd implemented it that way; but it just gets in the way for watching videos or viewing photos, which are two things I do a lot of on my phone, which is what killed the iPX for me.
Re:Popular? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re: Popular? (Score:5, Insightful)
In reality the notch is a temporary design shift made by limits of current tech. In the not to distant future. Cameras that see through the displays will increase in resolution the infrared backlight will be from the whole screen etc.
The tech exists now. It just isn't refined enough for a phone.
Re: Popular? (Score:2)
No!!! GOD ALMIGHTY Noooooooo!!!!!!!!
Re: Popular? (Score:4, Interesting)
Exactly. Apple took a limitation of the current technology and "owned" that limitation by styling it as a defining characteristic, rather than trying to hide it as others have done. And that was a great marketing decision on their part, because in doing so they've put themselves at the forefront of a fad they created. But make no mistake: the notch is designed to be a passing fad. Just as soon as the technology develops to where they want it to be, Apple will drop it and the models (both theirs and their competitors') that still have one will seem antiquated with their ridiculous notches.
As for the Android question at the top, the answer is, of course, "it depends". If they're doing it because they're facing those same technical limitations and the notch is an easier approach than designing an alternative, sure, embrace the notch and enjoy the fact that you won't have to do the hard work of convincing people it's an acceptable design. If they don't have those technical limitations and they're simply adding a notch to keep up with the fad, then it makes no sense to add one, other than to appeal to undiscerning buyers (which, frankly, is a valid demographic to target since there's good money to be made there).
Design? More like "engineering screwup." (Score:3, Insightful)
It wasn't designed to be anything but stupid. Because it is stupid.
The fad business comes about like any fad; people are also stupid. You can put the notch right next to pet rocks and the like. Just one more really bad hardware decision by Apple. Of many recent such.
So far at least, Samsung hasn't bought into the "let's put a hole in the display" or the "let's take the analog audio away" or the "let's take away the memory card" stupids, but we certainly are seeing a
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Makes it Harder for Cross-Platform Design (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:No. (Score:4, Funny)
UNder the screen??!! Then I couldn't put tape over the camera! The Deep State Democrats are spying on us all at the behest of the Catholic Church (Thanks Kennedys!).
Of course the Catholics are working for the Girl Scouts of America. I tell you those girls are remarkable! They have put and kept Putin in charge of Russia for years!
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I saw F the small bezels completely. I hate edge-to-edge screens as I have to hold the phone in a funky way to prevent from accidentally touching things near the edge of the screen.
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The camera and proximity sensor are the only things that need to be on the front really. Fingerprint sensor on the back. Speakers on the bottom.
I'd prefer a small bezel with camera, proximity sensor, notification LED and earpiece at the top. Functionality over style.
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Besides, those that are already in the Apple garden would pay regardless.
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Just... don't see the why?
Smarphone innovation is already stagnated, because everyone is blindly copying Apple (even Apple itself)
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"The notch" is insane.
It tries to turn a device whos design is meant to be a mini tablet into a phone. Nonsense.
Stop holding a tablet to your ear. Move those ear and mouth "matched" speakers and mikes to a place where they comfortly match for tablet use.
And finally.. Stop making bluetooth headsets and optional gadget for extra money. Deliver a proper one with your "phone" and stop making people do this ugly and uncomfy "hold it to your ear" stunt.
wait what? is this AC complaining about people using their phones as phones?
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Please don't suggest this...they may take you seriously.
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Should we start putting notches on laptop screens where the webcam is taped over next?
Fixed that for you.
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No, just do what Dell did, and stick it on the bottom bezel so it looks up your nose.
I don't care either way (Score:4, Informative)
All I care about is if I can hold the phone at the sides without my hands triggering the touch screen. If it helps them maintain a 16:9 aspect ratio then it's fine, it's hidden by a black status bar anyway. If they want a notch because they're looking to expand the screen vertically to 18:9 then no thanks. I don't like the candy bar form factor.
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If it helps them maintain a 16:9 aspect ratio then it's fine, it's hidden by a black status bar anyway.
Seems like 16:9 video content wouldn't look so good, though.
Notches seem pointless and miss the point (Score:5, Interesting)
A display notch can offer a greater screen-to-body ratio, for example, but lower overall aesthetic value.
Aesthetics are a matter of personal taste. I can see people liking or hating the notch and you can't say they are wrong either way. There is no objective way to judge aesthetics. Conceivably the notch has some potential functional value though it seems a lot of trouble for some pretty minimal gains even under the best of circumstances. I have an iPhone X (spare the snark - it works for me) and I'm utterly indifferent to the notch. It doesn't bother me but I don't find it particularly useful either. Frankly it seems mostly like a mis-feature and a waste of money.
All this sturm and drang about notches really seems to be missing the point. It's an answer to a problem nobody has. What I want them to do is make a phone with a better battery life. They could double the thickness of all but the biggest phones and I would not care. A thicker phone would also enable them to put a better camera into the phone which has value to me. I'd also like someone to really get seamless cloud integration and device and document sharing right because that is still a hot mess whether you are talking about Android, iOS or any other system. You'd think Apple could figure it out since they control their platform the tightest but they always seem to only partially solve the problems.
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It's an answer to a problem nobody has. What I want them to do is make a phone with a better battery life. They could double the thickness of all but the biggest phones and I would not care.
Just about every phone designer is missing the point. Phones have been thin enough for a long time now. They have had small enough bezels for years. Most consumers don't care about that, but phone developers seem to have this holy grail of getting the ultimately slim phone with no bezel instead of solving the one problem that bothers consumers the most. Battery life.
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First thing I get after purchasing a phone is the highest capacity decent battery case I can find for it.
ZeroLemon case on my current phone (Nexus 6P) turns it into a brick, but I can recharge it several times on the fly should Iover use or just forget to charge overnight.
I would rather carry a brick than run out of juice. A phone without power is a paperweight. As noted phones are already small enough, thin enough, and have enough screen. What they don't have is anywhere near enough battery life.
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All this sturm and drang about notches really seems to be missing the point. It's an answer to a problem nobody has. What I want them to do is make a phone with a better battery life. They could double the thickness of all but the biggest phones and I would not care. A thicker phone would also enable them to put a better camera into the phone which has value to me.
I'm with you. Thicker, bigger battery, better camera.
The rest of my wish list:
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There is no objective way to judge aesthetics.
Yes, there is. Symmetry is one way to judge aesthetics.
Another way is double-blind group surveys.
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Yes, there is. Symmetry is one way to judge aesthetics.
That assumes greater symmetry = greater aesthetics which is not a reliable relationship for all viewers and/or circumstances. Your opinion of the beauty of symmetry can easily differ from mine. There is no reliably objective way to evaluate anything aesthetically at the single person level. Even at a group level all you can say is what percentage of people find something aesthetically pleasing but that's not objective, it's just a compilation of individual opinions.
Another way is double-blind group surveys.
Again, beauty is in the eye of the beho
Not Either / Or (Score:2)
I actually like the notch and I replied to you because I expect you to NOT judge me for it :)
And I assure you I wont. If you like it, cool. You be you. I don't love it or hate it. I just don't see the point of it.
When you say it fixes a problem nobody wants and that manufacturers should strive for better battery life you're actually projecting your personal preference.
True I am indicating my personal preference but I also know that my personal preferences in this case are pretty widely (though not universally) held. There almost certainly are non trivial numbers of smartphone buyers who would like a bigger battery and a better camera. But for the notch, the question is what problem does it solve for people? More battery life or a better camera h
What the fuck is a "notch"? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Why would someone with so little interest in phones click on this story?
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Why would someone with so little interest in phones click on this story?
Not everyone uses an iPhone or cares to use an iPhone.
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My question was meant to be rhetorical. I knew it was virtue signalling.
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Yes, the largest tech company in the world should not get covered on a nerd website. That makes a lot of sense. Even if you hate Apple, their scale is such that when they fart it affects the whole industry. You can't actually follow tech news without at least side-boob exposure to Apple.
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to the OP, no, the answer is no.
LMGTFY... (Score:2)
Re: What the fuck is a "notch"? (Score:2)
Why the fuck is there always a hipster-wannabe prick on here pretending not to know something.
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Re:What the fuck is a "notch"? (Score:4, Insightful)
Betteridge Answers for Us (Score:5, Insightful)
NO.
It's really sad that since there isn't any real innovation happening with phones and the best we can come up with is a debate over whether we want some near unusable screen space on either side on the top of our phones.
What about bluetooth that doesn't drop out? Better call quality and consistent connections? Better security and privacy settings? Better battery life? More options for storage? Or how about a phone that will survive falling from a nightstand and I don't need to buy a stronger case for?
Instead we are paying $1k for a "flagship" phone that doesn't really do much more than that $300 phone 4 years ago.
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It's really sad that since there isn't any real innovation happening with phones and the best we can come up with is a debate over whether we want some near unusable screen space on either side on the top of our phones.
Truth.
"Notch" is really the wrong way to think about it. It's really a pair of small, rectangular, nearly-useless "ear" displays, stuck to the top of the usable display. What are developers supposed to do with them, when many devices won't have them?
Re: Betteridge Answers for Us (Score:2)
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Speak for yourself. I personally think somebody's got to be a little thick to pay $1000 for a cell phone, unless it does something that makes that much an impact on their lives in some meaningful way. From what I can tell, most people use their phones primarily as entertainment devices.
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NO.
I was thinking about Betteridge's Law. However, "no" just doesn't cut it in this case.
F**K NO!
HELL NO!
Nothing wrong with a bezzle (Score:3)
The Essential Android Phone came out with a notch before the iPhone X. Personally, I just see this as a poor compromise to the phone designers drive to marketing bezzle-less designs that people may think they like. I am fine with a bezzle and prefer a little bit of space to accommodate the palm of my hand hanging over.
Can the iPhone Notch talk back to you? (Score:2)
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Is "popular" newspeak for "stupid as all hell?" (Score:2)
I wouldn't buy an iPhone X for that silly notch.
Wouldn't buy an android for the same reason.
The notch justifies.... (Score:2)
...phone manufacturers to use up valuable screen real estate. Android makers are thinking, "Hey Apple convinced users to pay $1000 for a new phone and not get 100% of the screen (3.6%) is lost due to the notch."
Hell, no (Score:4, Insightful)
You know what? I don't mind a bit of top and bottom bezel. If anything, you could even go a bit taller.
You know why? Because it leaves room for some proper dual front speakers.
Fuck this "less bezel" and "thinner" bullshit that disappears as soon as we stick the phone in a proper case; give us functionality improvements.
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Because it leaves room for some proper dual front speakers.
Yes, this would be an actual thing I want. In addition to Jack, FM radio, SD card slot, removable battery, non-slippery sides and back...
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Re: Here's a better question (Score:2)
Replacing microUSB in favour of a better standard is not the same as getting rid of something that works fine in favour of something that causes the user unnecessary inconvenience. I have a 6s. I won't be buying a later model due to that idiocy.
Yes. Also no (Score:2)
Obviously, the ones who want to mimic the iphone design as much as possible probably should.
On the other hand, plenty of others already have good designs with "zero" or near-zero bezel, or with a wider bezel that accommodates a front-facing camera without making the screen area weird.
Can't imagine a yes answer in this story... (Score:2)
I mean I don't even approve of rounded corners, so you can imagine what I think of a non-convex polygon as a screen shape...
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Agreed. I bought a Samsung S8+ because it was the best phone available that met most of my wants in a phone. There are 3 things I really don't like about it, though:
- rounded corners on the screen - on some apps I lose information. You gain looks and lose functionality. And I don't like the look. Give me 90 degree corners!
- non-flat screen - why? Why can't I have a choice of a flat screen? Why do have to have this 2.5D crappy screen with rolling rounded edges the mess with my eyes at the edges of the
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Not a phone (Score:2)
Man, it's a phone
Actually, it is not.
It is a miniature general-purpose portable computing device, that just happens to have a built-in cellular radio.
Take out that radio and you are left with a device (like an iPod touch) that people still buy and use for a variety of purposes.
No! (Score:2)
No, please! I hate that notch. Stupidest design decision ever, imho.
If you need space for stuff up there, put in a thicker bezel, and leave my screen fully rectangular. (preferably 16:9 too -- I really don't like that 18:9 on my Samsung).
For me, the notch is a major reason to not buy a phone (along with the lack of a headphone connector -- I switched from Google's own phone and bought a Samsung, having used Nexus devices for years, specifically because of the lack of headphone connector).
I'm sure I'm not
If they want to sell phones to me: No. (Score:2)
I don't like the notch and don't see the point. If your sensors need space, move them out of the screen. Obvious, isn't it?
I do get rounded cornsers - to an extent. If people insist on rounded corners on their case and designers insist on covering as much sceenspace as fittingly as possible - more power to them. I also find rounded corners esthetically pleasing. But then again, that's more personal taste than a law.
Bottom line: The Pixel 2 XL does just fine with rounded corners but without any notch. Do it
FTFY (Score:2)
No. Fuck off with this notch bullshit.
Design decision (Score:3)
This is a really good question! Should I paint my house red? My neighbor a few houses down painted their house a bright red. It used to be sort of grey, but it's kind of a bright red now. It looks really nice, and updated what had been a "tired"-looking house and turned it into something eye catching, in a good way.
So I'm asking Slashdot: Should I paint my house red?
This is a design decision. Apple decided to include a notch in their new iPhone. Now the phone stands out a bit more against the competition. As smartphone makers generally drifted to the same "glass brick" design (because it makes a lot of sense for what it is) Apple found a new way to identify "that's an iPhone" through a design choice. Now when you see a white smartphone, you can guess what make it is - if it has a notch, it's a new iPhone.
I personally don't like the notch. I use Android, so I haven't used a notch. But I just don't like how it looks. It looks like Apple ran out of room with the phone, and just stuck the camera inside the display.
Maybe some Android phones will copy the notch, just like Android phones started to look more like iPhones in other ways. But I hope they don't.
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No (Score:2)
It scares me we're even having this conversation (Score:2)
The notch was a solution in search of a problem. The fact that a sizeable number of people people now think (or at least are willing to pretend) that a screen with a couple of weird looking horns on the end somehow looks better than a rectangular screen that's a bit narrower reminds me a lot of middle school dress fads.
Stop copying (Score:2)
Does anyone really care about this crap? (Score:2)
Seriously, a "notch"? I think they're run out of ideas so they're just coming up with stuff for the sake of being different.
Anyone who would care about a "notch" so much that it affects their decision of which phone to buy needs to get a life.
What's next, curved or foldable displays? (yes, I know, that is what's next)
It would be nice if phone makers focused on things that matter, like privacy and battery life.
The "notch" is a temp fix, not a solution (Score:2)
Please No! (Score:2)
I don't want to read Sl____ot with a notch.
Apple's notch? (Score:2)
Apple may have garnered all the press but it's not something they "invented". Nor is it especially something worth immitating though clearly some other handset makers want to make use of it to make the display larger.
so idiotic (Score:2)
It looks ugly, unless you reserve the area on each side of the notch to notifications so that the apps and pictures do not have access to it. That is the only condition that would make it acceptable to me.
Even though, having a full screen display impose other issues:
Notch...schnotch!! (Score:2)
Wait...isn't the "NOTCH" an Apple thing? (Score:2)
So, why are Android phone manufacturers even considering taking this route? So they can look like an iPhone X?
Thought all things Apple were bad. I am SOOOOOO confused.
Oh goody (Score:5, Funny)
Don't alienate the people who don't like Apple (Score:2)
If they copy Apple stuff that I hate, I might as well get an Apple and cut Google out.
Nobody wants this stuff (Score:2)
People amazingly find it acceptable. Apple should celebrate that, and not push their luck by pretending it's a good thing or that it doesn't lower the value of their product. It does make the phone worth less and makes it so that people are willing to pay less for it, but the success here is it's only slightly less. Apparently people aren't too angry about it.
If Samsung thinks they're jumping on a popularity or fashion bandwagon, they have been conned and it's time to admit that Apple has finally outsmarte
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This isn't the first time android copied apple's design based on rumors and rushed to market first. Rumors said the iPhone 6 would have a full sapphire display, so some android manufacturers rushed phones to m
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When did "notch" become a technology thing we're expected to know? Maybe explain what it is for people who don't have any Apple friends FFS.
To me when I hear the word notch, I assume that means that there is part of the phone cut out; but that doesn't make any sense and I can't imagine why anyone would want that.
A "notch" in phonespeak must be something than a notch? Maybe a section of the screen that is left blank for some reason- or to be prefilled with ads for other apple products or something equally obnoxious.
The only notches I want are on my bedpost.
Just what IS the notch? Well I'll tell ya... (Score:5, Informative)
When did "notch" become a technology thing we're expected to know? Maybe explain what it is for people who don't have any Apple friends FFS.
To me when I hear the word notch, I assume that means that there is part of the phone cut out; but that doesn't make any sense and I can't imagine why anyone would want that.
A "notch" in phonespeak must be something than a notch? Maybe a section of the screen that is left blank for some reason- or to be prefilled with ads for other apple products or something equally obnoxious.
The only notches I want are on my bedpost.
In short for someone reading this far and still confused.
The idea of the notch is based in bragging numbers. I don't know what the bezel did to phone developers. I assume the bezel slept with phonedev's mother, but they hate it with a passion. SO much so that not being content so have the screen go all the way up to the front facing camera and wraping around the sides of the phone and pushing out the home screen button on the lower side. The screen is now expected to go all the way around the camera. Creating the effect that the camera made a notch in the phones display and stuck a camera in it. Now phone makers can claim their screen is another centimeter longer if you discount the whole notch in the middle.
The whole thing is stupid because that notch is just screen you can't use, no one wants to watch a video with a camera sized black space on the left side. Thus they start attaching gestures to each side of the notch. and now they're touting it as a feature. "Look at our screen it's a full cm longer AND you get cool new gestures that no one asked for."
I swear some phonedevs won't be satisfied until the entire phone is screen and you have no possible way to hold it without activating the screen.
Re: dont you mean (Score:5, Informative)
This.
I had no idea what a friggin 'notch' was and had to go search for it, thinking I had missed out on some significant innovation. Not so much.
Essentially it is a small non-display 'cutout' in the display screen for things like front facing camera and speaker
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That said, this is nothing particularly new or innovative, was not first developed by Apple, and having a trivial amount of additional asymmetrical screen space around the notch is not of significant value. I also doubt the additional complexity and transition costs for devs is worthwhile.
If a concept already failed to gain traction in the Android marketplace but Apple adopts it later, why must Android manufacturers suddenly bandwagon it? I swear the Android space is driven by fear of missing out as much as innovation at times.
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Yeah the article is asking if I want a notch, it should instead be asking if I want a front facing camera at all. I don't. I never use it. I take pictures and videos with the rear facing camera. I don't face time, face book, Instagram, or anything else that requires pointing a camera at myself while I use the screen.
Atchoo! Sniff. (Score:2)
Sorry, but the dust from all those straw men is getting up my nose.
Until recently, the formula was "Apple may not have invented x but they took and idea that was 'bubbling under', refined it into an attractive and easy-to-use consumer product and marketed the fuck out of it"... because, lets face it, Creative Nomads, LG Pradas and Windows XP Tablet Edition [wikipedia.org] systems weren't exactly flying off the shelves. Marketing is part of innovation - deal with it.
The "innovation" of the iPhone was not "we're going to
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Now we have touch screens so close to the edges that you can't pick it up without triggering something. Progress.