Ask Slashdot: What Are Some Cloud Backup Solutions That You Recommend? 241
New submitter OneHundredAndTen writes: After having used the services of CrashPlan for my backups for a few years now, I have just learned that CrashPlan is exiting the home backup business. Although this won't be happening for another 14 months, they have the chutzpah of recommending a provider (Carbonite) that does not support Linux. Looking in the net, there are not so many alternatives available -- unless you go with somebody that charges you $5/mo and up for a measly 100GB, or (occasionally) 1TB. Fine for a little phone, but not for the several TB worth of video I have shot over the years.
Anybody aware of decent cloud backup solutions that support Linux, and that offer a maximum backup capacity that is not ridiculously small? Reader cornjones asks a similar question: My use case:
Backups for several computers, both at my house and scattered family machines
Encrypted locally by a key I set, only encrypted bits are stored offsite
I have a copy of my data onsite. I primarily want to protect against lost drives or fire (or ransomware attack)
Ideally, I would be able to point it at a NAS, which I don't have now.
The plan I was on was 10 computers, unlimited data, for 4 years @ $429. Lower is better, but I am willing to pay in that range.
Across my machines, I probably have about 1TB of bulk storage and 10 or so machines w/, say, 60GB backups each.
Anybody aware of decent cloud backup solutions that support Linux, and that offer a maximum backup capacity that is not ridiculously small? Reader cornjones asks a similar question: My use case:
Backups for several computers, both at my house and scattered family machines
Encrypted locally by a key I set, only encrypted bits are stored offsite
I have a copy of my data onsite. I primarily want to protect against lost drives or fire (or ransomware attack)
Ideally, I would be able to point it at a NAS, which I don't have now.
The plan I was on was 10 computers, unlimited data, for 4 years @ $429. Lower is better, but I am willing to pay in that range.
Across my machines, I probably have about 1TB of bulk storage and 10 or so machines w/, say, 60GB backups each.
Backblaze (Score:2, Informative)
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/crashplan-alternative-backup-solution/
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Sounds good, but it doesn't sound like they have a Linux client which the OP mentioned they needed in the summary.
It may be overkill for a home setup, but even though it's an old (but still updated) I still really like BackupExec. I use it on my servers at work and do a combination of backups to the SAN and tape. The latest version also supports using a cloud data provider as a storage target so you can place backups off-site.
You have to have a Windows machine to act as the server but it does have agents
Re:Backblaze (Score:5, Informative)
> it doesn't sound like they have a Linux client
For Linux, Backblaze offers "B2 Object Storage" with a large list of established Linux clients supporting it. You can see the list on this web page: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/i... [backblaze.com] (for Linux, look for the little pictures of a penguin).
Solutions that backup to Backblaze B2 include: Duplicity, HashBackup, Transmit (by Panic), and rclone
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But the breakeven for that is ~833 gigs.
If you have to backup more than that, B2 costs more than the regular service .
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Re:Backblaze (Score:4, Interesting)
I back up computers in my house to a FreeBSD NAS and I'm looking for an off-site backup solution. I want to be able to send ZFS snapshots, encrypted, to a remote location. Do you know of any tools that work well for this kind of use, or do I need to roll my own.
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This is a REALLY common request and there are TONS of solutions. I think most of them were originally crafted to send your ZFS snapshots to Amazon S3 and/or Microsoft Azure, but now they work for Backblaze B2 also (and it is a LOT cheaper on Backblaze B2). If you look through the "integrations" list on this page you can choose your favorite: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/i... [backblaze.com]
If you don't have any favorites, one of the Ba
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If you look through the "integrations" list on this page you can choose your favorite
I had a look through this list the first time that you posted it, but none of them seem applicable.
If you don't have any favorites, one of the Backblaze IT people here uses "Duplicity Linux" to do EXACTLY what you describe
Duplicity doesn't seem to be able to do this. It maintains its own change logs, which ZFS gives me for free. I can do zfs send and get a stream that contains the changes since the last snapshot. I want to send this stream, encrypted, to B2, named such that if I need to recover I can easily stream the snapshots back, in order, so that zfs receive can reapply them to the filesyystem. I also want to configure
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Why ask Slashdot when someone has already done an indepth review and provided results?
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-online-backup-service/
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Probably because that review says nothing about linux, which is kind of important to the original poster.
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https://help.backblaze.com/hc/... [backblaze.com]
Disclaimer: No warranty expressed or implied by me, and I have never used it.
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I'm another refugee exiled from my ancestral CrashPlan homeland. I used the macOS client, but for me the best feature of CrashPlan was its versioning, which you can set to "keep an infinite number of versions." This makes you bulletproof against ransomware. Deduplication worked really well on CrashPlan also: if I accumulated a terabyte of photographs on my local HD and then bought an umpteenth external disk to archive them on, CrashPlan figured this situation out without resending all that data over my usag
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Looks a nice service, but seems pretty pricey. So say 4 TB of data, at 6 cents per GB, would be $246 per month.
I personally use Storage Servers from Time4VPS, if payed in advance for 2 years €11.99 per month.
Now rsync.net probably do more (backup their servers) but this is maybe unnecessary if a backup of home server data.
FreeNAS (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm lucky enough to manage IT and servers for a pair of businesses in physically different locations. Both are running FreeNAS for their local storage. Both cross backup to one another using ZFS SEND/RECV. This gives full snapshotted history on both physical locations of both's complete storage. Pretty handy!
Re: FreeNAS (Score:4, Insightful)
Holy fuck! You put my corporate data at your other client's site?
You're fired.
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Ditto other poster's sentiments. Encrypted data alone is no guarantee of security. It's more of a road-bump; another check-box on the compliance form.
Also, are the businesses fully aware of the cross-backup situation? There could be potential liability issues you've not considered. If both fully understand what's happening and accept liability, then good for you. Cheaper way of doing things, but if anything goes wrong, both businesses could be up the creek. Again, seems a risky move.
On a related note, hopef
Re:FreeNAS (Score:5, Insightful)
Others point out the commercial concerns here, but as a personal strategy it could be a useful solution. Use your parents, siblings, inlaws etc. and share backup bandwidth. Set it up to replicate in the middle of the night when it's unlikely to affect folk.
Alternatively, keep local backups and dump a hard drive in a lockbox at your bank once a month. Cheap and comes with almost unlimited capacity. I guess you could even send incremental backups to the cloud, minimizing your storage requirement there.
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This. I have a pair of external drives, as does a friend of mine. He brings over a drive of his data and my old drive, I put them in my gun safe. I give him his old data and my fresh data, he puts it in his gun safe.
Since we see each other every few days anyway, whenever we feel the need to back up (just backed up a phone, just took a bunch of pics, whatever) we can swap drives forth and back when ever we like.
No bandwidth restrictions to worry about, no client software to worry about, just copies of the
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This was one of the reasons that I (used to) like CrashPlan.
Their software allowed you to designate other computers running CrashPlan as destinations -- either other computers on your own plan, or friends that have given you an access code.
I have one sister who lives a thousand miles from me who backs up to me, and one who lives 3000 miles away. Until February, anyway, when my account expires.
There really don't seem to be any alternatives that support Linux. There are some roll-your-own options, but nothi
AWS S3 (Score:2)
Amazon is not going under. S3 will be viable for longer than you'll need it to be.
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I have a Synology NAS that both acts as a central file server, and backs up my local computers' important files - various Windows, Mac, and Linux boxes on my local network. Synology has a built-in app that makes remote backups to S3 or Glacier servers.
Because I'm mostly only backup up source code, documents, and my videogame development game assets, the overall backup is pretty minimal. And because you only pay for what you use, that means I'm literally only paying pennies per month for online backup. I
Don't for get an cap free ISP as well! (Score:2)
Don't for get an cap free ISP as well!
Backblaze (Score:3)
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Yeah, Backblaze is a pretty good option for personal cloud workstation backups. However, it doesn't have a Linux client, which seems to be something the OP wants.
Re:Backblaze (Score:4, Informative)
B2 works on Linux. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/d... [backblaze.com]
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Oooo, at $0.005/GB per month this is pretty competitive. They nail you on download at $0.02/GB, but honestly if I've lost my primaries, AND my backups I'll be thrilled to pay $20/TB to retrieve them!
Re:Backblaze (Score:4, Interesting)
... honestly if I've lost my primaries, AND my backups I'll be thrilled to pay $20/TB to retrieve them!...
They also have the option to copy the file(s) to a drive or thumbdrive and ship to you.
Re:Backblaze (Score:4, Informative)
Just to add to this, when you get the backup drive/thumbdrive, you can either keep it or send it back. If you send it back, they refund you what they charged you for the drive/thumbdrive. So you can essentially restore your data for free.
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You could run Backblaze in a Windows KVM on Linux. To be honest, running Backblaze in a Windows KVM on Linux will use less RAM/resources than running the standalone CrashPlan Java client anyways.
Re:Backblaze (Score:5, Informative)
> if your out of touch with the server for 30 days it's deleted
Some clarification: For any computer that does not "phone home" we allow up to 6 months before even threatening to delete your backup, and we warn you first quite a bit (after that).
However, if the computer is backing up every day but you have an external hard drive (like a Drobo) and you leave the Drobo unplugged for more than 30 days, we warn you profusely by BOTH email and by popup dialogs and then we delete the data. If at some later date you plug the Drobo back in you need to repush the contents from scratch.
We are actively researching whether we (Backblaze) can extend this to be longer (like 60 days or 90 days) without losing too much money, but if you install today you have to live with "external drives must be plugged into the laptop host at least once every 30 days".
Some cloud backup solutions ... (Score:2)
... that my recommend does what with, exactly?
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... that my recommend does what with, exactly?
I thought the submitted wanted to know what the company named "Your" recommend.
It's English As She Is Spoke.
None: I run my own home cloud server. (Score:3)
Re:None: I run my own home cloud server. (Score:5, Interesting)
> I'd love to see some hard data on the chance of data loss on those cloud services vs. typical home set-ups.
Backblaze uses a Reed Solomon encoding where every file is replicated across 20 different hard drives in 20 different locations in our datacenter. We can lose up to three full computers out of the 20 and your data is still both safe AND available. And a really good feature is we monitor EVERY SINGLE DRIVE and have datacenter employees replacing drives that have gone bad 7 days a week.
However, a counter point is that if you forget to pay Backblaze your monthly bill for as little as 60 days we delete your data to make room for paying customers. I really think people underestimate how easily this can occur purely by accident. For example, the credit card on file expires, and the employee who was signed up to get alerts retired the year before and the emails are not being read anymore.
For all of the reasons above, to my closest friends I recommend BOTH for data you would be really bummed out to lose. Keep the live copy, plus a backup at home on a hard drive, and a copy in Backblaze for when your house burns down. This is what I do, and it lets me sleep at night.
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> For all of the reasons above, to my closest friends I recommend BOTH for data you would be really bummed out to lose. Keep the live copy, plus a backup at home on a hard drive, and a copy in Backblaze for when your house burns down. This is what I do, and it lets me sleep at night.
I drink beer for that.
AWS S3 Glacier? (Score:2)
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I seem to be headed down that road. Use Time Machine / Windows Backup to basement server, sync basement server to Glacier.
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Is that true? Even if you use the slowest service? It's steep, but honestly might still be worth it if you lose both your primaries AND backups. There seem to be other cheap services competing with Glacier. B2 from Backblaze looks very competitive.
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Spideroak (Score:2)
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If you want to go full-free-software, I recommend Tahoe-LAFS (https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs) you can run your own version with any server provider you want, or buy their service https://leastauthority.com/ [leastauthority.com]
Multi-TB sounds like a case for self-hosting (Score:4, Interesting)
When dealing with large collections and video the last thing that you really want to deal with is the slow backup / restore process to the Cloud when something goes wrong. The Cloud is not really a good option for backups IMO.
If you have a public facing IP and a satisfactory enough upload then home-hosting sounds like a decent solution. A small Linux / Unix box like a FreeNAS or something similar running Seafile or OwnCloud can provide you a cloud server. Clients are available for every OS and even mobile devices for remote access. And for actual backups, an Archive HDD like the 8-10TB models on the market should suffice. Leave that at work, at a friend's house or in a deposit box.
This gives you:
- cross platform
- no cost
- in your house very fast access to the "cloud" (remote access speed will depend on not being in Australia an hampered with shithouse internet)
- your own in control backup strategy
- your own in control deleted file retention strategy
- the ability to share content easily as with all other services
- security of being your own small self and thus a less likely target than a big provider
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That assumes you'll do this regularly. For a long time, my backup procedure was to back up all of our laptops onto one external hard drive. Then copy that drive to another drive. One external hard drive stayed in the house for easy access. The other was hidden away in a second location. In theory, this worked well. In practice, I would either not update the "off-site" backup often enough such that loss of my primary backup would be devastating or I would forget to bring the off-site backup off-site, defeati
Re:Multi-TB sounds like a case for self-hosting (Score:5, Informative)
> I'm currently backing up 210GB and the estimate is 21 days
If you are using Backblaze, make sure you "Check for Updates" (menu option) and make sure you are running the 5.0 client we just released last week. Then if you want to make faster progress, turn off all power savings modes on your computer so it won't sleep, and then go into Backblaze "Settings..." menu and turn off "Automatic Threads/Throttle" and manually set the number of threads high enough to saturate your network. Let it run all night long for several nights in a row then check the time estimates again.
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your backup isn't sufficiently separated for your primary.
Let me quote myself:
Leave that at work, at a friend's house or in a deposit box.
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When dealing with large collections and video the last thing that you really want to deal with is the slow backup / restore process to the Cloud when something goes wrong. The Cloud is not really a good option for backups IMO.
When dealing with backups, the last thing you want to deal with is *loss*. For a business, being able to restore mission critical data quickly is critical.
For a home user, their video library ... if it takes a week or even 6 to get it all back down, that's fine.
I agree with you that having your data in another home via owncloud etc is a good idea, and recovery can be faster if you can drive to the other house and restore the backup 'locally'. I agree with all your points.
However, I'd still recommend a 3rd p
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What if the owncloud server dies, and your busy/on vacation/ etc and it goes a few weeks before you can get over to your friends to rebuild it and fix it etc... now your operating with just the copy on your local pc. And are vulnerable to theft, fire, hardware failure... etc.
What if dropbox goes down?
Actually your what-if scenario strikes close to home. I was in Australia 2 weeks ago while my server motherboard shat itself (only just got the library up and running again 20min ago).
What I actually did was upload any changed files to dropbox as a backup while I was in transit. I didn't need to rely on it, and I didn't upload anywhere near my whole library, but effectively the emergency backup plan was quite similar to what you proposed.
Mind you the "risk" you are talking about wa
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What if dropbox goes down?
The odds of dropbox going down hard (and permanently losing data as opposed to a brief service outage) is, I think, *much* lower than the odds of a basic home server going down hard. I'd rule the latter as all but inevitable over a 10+ year period.
However, I don't dispute that it could happen.
And that is why I agree 100% with combining a DIY backup with a cloud backup. More is always better with backups.
If I had to pick just one, I'd say the cloud backup service is more reliable. But if can have more than o
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The questioner only has a small amount of data to back up.
What is it with people and not reading today. Let me once again reply to someone by simply quoting something:
Fine for a little phone, but not for the several TB worth of video I have shot over the years.
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Sounds like a case of go buy whatever current LTO tape drive, dump all your stuff to tape once a week, and go store/rotate the tapes in a safe deposit box at the bank.
For the cost of a current LTO solution you can buy 3 or 4 of those 10TB archive HDDs and not need to deal with an entirely new concept for the home use (tape backup) as well.
IDrive? (Score:2)
Anyone try IDrive? The pricing [idrive.com] seems too good to be true, and they are offering 90% off the first year for Crashplan users.
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S3 be cheap (Score:2)
For Linux? Amazon S3 and duplicity
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I came here to say just this, but if Backblaze really will give you unlimited backup AND there's a duplicity backend for it, if you're backing up more than 1TB or so then Backblaze will be cheaper than even S3 Glacier.
Backblaze are probably making out like gangbusters even if they're re-selling S3 capacity though, most people's backups will only be a small fraction of that.
(Carbonite) that does not support Linux (Score:4, Informative)
Not only does Carbonite not support Linux but neither Windows Home Server. One gets emails from them demanding that as a business using a server, they are cancelling the account unless it is upgraded to a business level. Trying to explain that WHS is a personal home system get only mindless "Server! Servers are for businesses! You are running a business!". Total morons.
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NAS support (Score:2)
I don't know of a good cloud backup provider with a Linux client. However, you mention wanting to point it to a NAS, which opens another possibility: You could have the NAS backup directly to the cloud.
For example, if you get a Synology, it has a built in backup application that can backup to various cloud providers. I don't know any that will backup several TB for a fixed price, but you could backup to BackBlaze B2 (BackBlaze's service similar to Amazon S3) for as low as $0.005/GB. That's likely to be
Look at rclone and Duplicati (Score:4, Informative)
FreeNAS and rclone should give you all you need. If you're looking particularly at only-cloud, look at Duplicati. Then pick a storage plan, not sure what you expect as far as availability, throughput and cost but there are Google, Amazon, Box, Dropbox.
I would recommend rsync.net, not only do they have native rsync, they also have native ZFS send capacity.
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... Then pick a storage plan, not sure what you expect as far as availability, throughput and cost but there are Google, Amazon, Box, Dropbox.
Also Apple iCloud, which has encrypted cloud storage for reasonable monthly rates.
For any of the above, I hope that you have a fast internet connection at home.
iDrive (Score:2)
I have had (for the moment) a good experience with iDrive. Not the cheapest, but the client is flexible, you can have several machines, and it seems to have plenty of bandwidth, I also tried the free tests of backblaze y carbonite, and found the clients sorely lacking in features, and IIRC, the allowed only one machne.
iDrive makes incremental backups, saving only the changed pieces of big files. That is interesting if you have big files that change fairly often, as it's my case. Never have had to recover fr
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> I also tried the free tests of Backblaze and IIRC, they allowed only one machine
Backblaze has evolved quite a bit in the last couple years, I don't know when you last tried it. First of all, you can backup several computers under one email address in Backblaze. Second of all, Backblaze recently released "Groups" which is where one IT admin can administrate and monitor backups of hundreds of different users each with one or more computers.
For Backblaze Groups,
Disclaimer: I work at Backblaze. (Score:3)
I usually dislike when people start with "Disclaimer: I work at ..." and then give a sales pitch.
But in this case every answer you provided (7 so far) has been genuinely helpful and candid. From the look of it you guys are a pretty decent outfit.
I use tarsnap for my business and was using S3 so far for other stuff but I think I'll dump S3 and try Backblaze.
Safe deposit box (Score:2)
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My solution is simpler.
Make sure that your backups are encrypted (with a strong encryption method and strong keys), and just keep the drives at your office.
If you suddenly leave your job, you may need to leave the drives behind, which is why the encryption is important.
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Make sure that your backups are encrypted (with a strong encryption method and strong keys), and just keep the drives at your office.
You have just given me the missing piece to my backup strategy, which is now:
1) Local Linux Debian server with RAID 5.
2) Separate hard drive to backup/sync with the RAID.
3) Swap backup disk once a week with second backup disk.
4) [new] Store newly disconnected drive in a locked, personal safe at work.
5) Goto 3.
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RAID 5
Don't do that to yourself. The only thing you'll achieve with RAID 5 is slow death by failed rebuilds and corrupted arrays.
The bigger the hard disk, the bigger the odds that your RAID 5 scheme will shit itself; the smaller the hard disk, the smaller the savings. It's a lose-lose proposition.
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Yeah but when the NWO and/or Illuminati take over, banks will be the first places hit.
So really, what you want to do is buy an abandoned ICBM silo, and setup an off-grid server farm powered by hidden solar panels. You'll want to install a faraday cage around the premises to protect against tempest attacks on your data. This also has the added benefit of keeping the armed guards from accidentally (Or intentionally! Remember, you'll want to vet these people carefully before hiring. NDA's are a must.) revea
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I'd suggest backing everything up to a hard disk and sticking it in a safe deposit box at a bank. To save trips, have two disks; drop one off and pick the other one up, swapping them out again next cycle. It takes more work than an internet-based solution that runs automatically overnight, but it may be cheaper and (if you encrypt the drives) the security is hard to beat.
Yes, easiest, and within the budget of the poster. Within the budget he mentioned, he could buy two 4 TB external drives, and a safe-deposit box. Just don't get clunky 3.5" drives––get the drive-types that have laptop HDs, and are powered by the USBx/Firewire/eSATA cable. Plug and play.
Dev Null (Score:2, Funny)
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Are you trying to start a flame war between proponents of /dev/zero and /dev/null? What's next, vi vs. emacs?
Tarsnap (Score:2)
Tarsnap [tarsnap.com]
hubiC (Score:2)
I just use hubiC. They give you 25 GiB for free, 10 TB is only €50/year (though I've never needed that much!). It's compatible with Openstack swift, and it works with Duplicity (which I use), rclone, etc. They have a Linux client, but it's written in Mono, hasn't been updated in years and is pretty bad.
I just realised this sounds like a marketing push, but that wasn't my intention! (I won't share my affiliate link here.) I'm very much interested in learning about other solutions that are better su
Roll your own (Score:2)
You could roll your own remote/Cloud backup with Duply/Duplicity and AWS S3. It will be a few dollars per month
http://duply.net/ [duply.net]
Easy – Old Apple AirPort = NAS (Score:2)
This is easy:
* Get a used Apple Airport 2 off of ebay.
* Replace its internal hard drive with a WD Red (or a NAS-worthy Seagate).
* Plug the Airport into your router via CAT-5 cable.
* Turn off the Airport's WiFi capability.
* Use the public IP address of the AirPort to log in and remember for each machine.
Alternatively, buy a small web-host or host package from an internet provider (like HostGator.com). Set up your backup script to do it there. I think Carbon Copy Cloner, which does scheduled backups, w
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I had put a 4 TB in mine, but am upgrading to a 10 GB to completely cover needs.
It is internationally accessible for backups or use as a personal streaming media drive.
(Why 10 TB? Not a bunch of 'pirated' movies, although my family's music collection is on there. It's three people with laptops. One a scientist with huge datasets, another an artist/photographer. Those two need lots of space.)
AWS Glacier for long-term storage (Score:2)
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I was just about to post something like this. Amazon charges a pittance to store large amounts of data ($0.004/gb/month).
If you plan on rolling your own backup solution anyway, then using glacier as a final endpoint is your best bet cause then you won't have to worry about replication, etc. All you do is upload your files. It doesn't care how or what you upload. It's basically just a very slow performing storage volume. Encrypt your files and maybe add some PAR files for extra security, and you're gold
Terabytes? (Score:2)
With that much data, I'd be tempted to spring for a high-capacity tape backup system and avoid the hit on my bandwidth.
You could get a web host and back up your own (Score:2)
I have been using hostmonster for many years, and am considering switching. I've looked a few and will make a decision when my current contract comes to an end. I've looked at InMotion and a few others.
Basically find a web host that has unlimited storage, or storage limits you are comfortable with (but check the TOS and make sure they don't have a limit on number of files [HOSTMONSTER!]).
As far as backups, some basic scripts and you should be good to go on linux. I am sure there are some free backup tool
Why not back up to a centralized computer? (Score:2)
Then use the Crashplan business offering to back up that machine?
Backblaze B2 (Score:3)
https://www.backblaze.com/blog... [backblaze.com] has more info
Eschew 'The Cloud' (Score:2)
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Once in a while I'll take an image of the boot drive of my desktop. Otherwise there's nothing I really need to save.
But I think using 'cloud storage' for backups, considering how fickle these companies are, is not a viable long-term solution.
Also, I'm far from convinced that you can trust any of them, regardless of any encryption, to not snoop.
At the very least Murphy's Law fully applies, at the absolute worst moment they'll bail on you and say "t
My list (Score:2)
1) Zero fuss + reasonable safety and privacy: Apple iCloud + big fat Timevault. It's a hideously expensive setup but it's about as safe and easy and reliable as it gets. ... This is, of course, when you're in the Apple ecosystem already.
2) Google + automated takeaway downloads. There is a huge advantage and a huge disadvantage with Google, and both spell out exactly the same way: Google watches over you. Price-performance is second to none with Google, but, of course, here you have to be part of the ecosyst
ARQ Backup (Score:2)
ARQ seems to be working just fine for me... Non Linux, sorry. Pay for your own hosting of data.
https://www.arqbackup.com/ [arqbackup.com]
Wasabi - S3 compatible and cheap (Score:3)
I let the NSA do my backups.. (Score:2)
Zoolz (Score:2)
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Zoolz yet. They are a legitimate business and have been operating for years. You can find a "for life" 2 TB deal for $49.99 [fossbytes.com] this week.
No Linux client but given it's developed in .NET with no obfuscation, I guess it won't take long before someone decompiles the code and implements the feature in Duplicati or rclone.
https://deals.fossbytes.com/sa... [fossbytes.com]
Usenet (Score:2)
Encrypt. Name it something memorable, but not something that is going to get a DMCA.
Upload. Enjoy 3 years of free off site backups distributed throughout the world.
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Also be aware that many home fire safes are only designed/rated for paper, make sure the safe is rated for electronics/media.
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Re:I disagree with the premise of cloud backup. (Score:4, Insightful)
Um.
You do realize that fireproof safes are intended to protect paper, right? They don't keep the interior *cool*, they keep it cool enough that it won't ignite paper in the limited amount of oxygen inside.
If you're lucky your disk might be readable afterwards, or at least Overland or someone like that could retrieve it, but I don't think I'd make that my primary plan.
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To be resistant to fire problems, swap multiple disks through a fireproof safe.
people like you are LOSERS because you inevitably end up saying "oops I lost the data"
Citation ?
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> They will necessarily cost more than doing it yourself.
This may or may not be true. Backblaze purchases up to 10,000 hard drives at a time DIRECTLY from the manufacturer at a discount of list price. You pay list price. You also have to pay for unused hard drive space, while Backblaze sells the unused hard drive space to other customers. Then Backblaze locates our datacenter in an area with cost effective electricity. If you live in Hawaii you are paying 50 cents/kWh, at Backblaze we get electricity for about 10 cents/kWh. On the other hand you might be beating our price on electricity if you live in Oregon (3 cents/kWh). Backblaze does charge an (extremely small) profit. Anyway, the point is this calculation is a little subtle. My goal would be to actually save our customers money over doing it themselves even while pocketing a small profit for ourselves. That's nothing but good business for all of us.
> It's not like they have magic disks.
We use the same hard drives as the you do but with two important twists:
1) We Reed Solomon encode your data replicated across 20 *separate* hard drives in 20 *separate* computers in 20 *separate* locations in our datacenter. We can lose 3 entire computers and your data is FINE.
2) We monitor every hard drive, and when one hard drive goes bad we send a datacenter technician over to replace it 7 days a week. We care DEEPLY about the health of your files. If two computers fail in the same logical Reed Solomon group of 20 computers we have pager systems that wake people up in the middle of the night and they start driving towards the datacenter (maybe 15 minutes away) to get it fixed NOW. And it is a "dead man's switch" in that if our datacenter techs do not "silence the page" (acknowledging they are going to fix the problem) we keep paging more and more and more people at Backblaze up to and including the CEO. When you backup to a single local hard drive, how many employees get paged when some of the sectors go bad?
Anyway, at Backblaze we have been doing storage for over 10 years and we really care deeply. It is all we care about. My goal is to get the price down below where you can be free to solve other problems.
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> I am genuinely considering using CloudBerry Backup and backing up to an S3 bucket
CloudBerry's standard client can backup to an Amazon S3 bucket, or just as easily to a Backblaze B2 bucket. The advantage of Backblaze B2 is that it is less than 1/4th the cost of Amazon.
We have many happy customers using CloudBerry.