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Tesla Delivered Over 76,000 Vehicles In 2016, Falling Slightly Short of Goal (theverge.com) 179

Tesla delivered 76,230 electric vehicles in 2016, falling just shy of its goal of delivering 80,000 cars for the year. The electric carmaker claimed that "short-term production challenges" starting at the end of October were to blame for the shipment of fewer vehicles than anticipated. The Verge reports: Tesla said the transition to new Autopilot hardware resulted in the company's vehicle production being "weighted more heavily towards the end of the quarter than we had originally planned." In total, about 2,750 Tesla vehicles missed being counted as deliveries in the fourth quarter of 2016, which the company ascribes to "last-minute delays in transport or because the customer was unable to physically take delivery." Tesla said that even though those sales were counted toward 2016, the deliveries were not because the customers did not physically take possession of their cars. Tesla says about 6,450 vehicles are still in transit, and that their deliveries will be counted toward the first quarter of 2017. While it fell short on delivery, Tesla was able to beat its production rate for 2015. Tesla said it produced 24,882 vehicles in the fourth quarter of 2016, resulting in a total of 83,922 vehicles produced in 2016. This was an increase of 64 percent from 2015. Vehicle demand in Q4 was particularly strong, Tesla says. Net orders for Model S and X, which were an all-time record, were 52 percent higher than Q4 2015 and 24 percent higher than the company's previous record quarter in Q3 2016. "We were ultimately able to recover and hit our production goal, but the delay in production resulted in challenges that impacted quarterly deliveries, including, among other things, cars missing shipping cutoffs for Europe and Asia," the company says. "Although we tried to recover these deliveries and expedite others by the end of the quarter, time ran out before we could deliver all customer cars."
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Tesla Delivered Over 76,000 Vehicles In 2016, Falling Slightly Short of Goal

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  • Looking Back (Score:4, Informative)

    by Mr D from 63 ( 3395377 ) on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @09:56PM (#53601885)
    3 years ago they predicted 100,000 in 2016

    http://insideevs.com/tesla-pro... [insideevs.com]

    In January of 2016 they were projecting over 3,200

    http://www.fool.com/investing/... [fool.com]
  • Seems like Tesla did pretty well against an aggressive target. I'm impressed, though I admittedly know next to nothing about the auto industry.

    • by Luthair ( 847766 )
      What makes you think the target is aggressive?
      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by MouseR ( 3264 )

        Every negative comments in this thread about the viability of EVs and Tesla's general goal.

        Koch Brothers work hard to push out negative info and bullcrap that the dimwitted will repeat. Things like DO THE MATH while they can't calculate how much gas they actually waste every year. Plus disk brakes. Plus oil changes & filters.

        Heck. I spent only 48L of fuel in a Gen2 Volt for the entire year, saving well above 1000$ for the Canadian fillups, with about 100$ in hydroelectricity bill, just for driving 10,00

        • by Luthair ( 847766 )

          I'm curious what math you're using.

          Extra vehicle cost: 72000 (Tesla S) - 18600 (Mazda 3) = $53400

          Cost of 20,000 city miles - 20000 miles / 29 mpg * 2.30 $/g = $1600
          Number of years to payback: 53400 / 1600 = 33 years

          Cost of 20,000 highway miles - 20000 miles / 39 mpg * 2.30 $/g = $1200
          Number of years to payback: 53400 / 1600 = 44 years

          Also consider the cost of electricity, and you will definitely find a Mazda3 on the lot for less than sticker at some point in the year both of which increase the payback t

          • by sxpert ( 139117 )

            your maths are flawed, you compare 2 cars that are definately NOT in the same segment.
            if you want to compare the tesla to an ICE, at least have the decency of doing so with way a BMW series 6 or 7, or something...

            • by Luthair ( 847766 )
              The poster specifically stated - if you drive 200000 km you can justify a Tesla which is clearly not the case. Incidentally I also thought the poster said 20k miles so the break even point is 60% more than what I said.
          • $2.3 per gallon? Try $4.5 like we have around here. Or even quite a bit more in some other European countries. Don't worry, EVs will find their buyers just fine...
            • by Luthair ( 847766 )
              I Googled US gas prices and that was supposedly the average.
              • by tepples ( 727027 )

                Is there a reason why Tesla isn't expanding more aggressively in markets where petrol is more heavily taxed? Or is electric power also expensive in 230 V land?

                • by Luthair ( 847766 )
                  Tax credits? Probably also infrastructure on their charging network, service & sales. In Europe, Japan or South Korea they also deal with tariffs as well as preference for domestic manufacturers.
              • $2.30/gallon sounds reasonable for now in the US, but I think gas prices are a lot likelier to go well above that than much below.

          • by Rei ( 128717 )

            Ah yes, Mazda 3, that famous luxury supercar that beats all but a handful of the fastest cars on earth....

          • Oh it's even better. When I compare the math of buying a Bugatti Veyron compared to stealing a bicycle I come out far cheaper when stealing a bicycle.

            I assume that was your point when you compared a very premium car to a bottom of the line compact right?

            Steal a bicycle.

    • While 76,000 vehicles may seem like a lot, compared to other car company assembly lines that's actually quite slow. At full speed with all shifts running an assembly plant can push out more than 1000 vehicles a day. Most of the big car companies usually have upwards of 20 assembly plants around the world. Not all run at that capacity but it gives you some scale. If they can continue to solve some of the supply chain issues and further increase production they should be able to drive the price of the Tesla

      • But that's not a reasonable comparison to make. How many more years have those other companies had to set up those assembly lines? Maybe try comparing Tesla's production rate with another 13 year old car company. (Or compare Tesla's numbers to what those other companies did in their 13th year.) And don't forget that Tesla is making a new type (electric) of car. And before you say electric cars aren't new, how do those other companies' production numbers for electric cars compare to Tesla's numbers?
      • A fair comparison is that the same factory that Tesla is using now used to produce 428,000 internal combustion cars in one year, back when it was owned by GM and Toyota.

    • by jeremyp ( 130771 )

      If missing the target is considered to be "doing well".

  • Reserved Model 3? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Luthair ( 847766 ) on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @10:33PM (#53601987)
    Maybe you should pull that $1000 and go buy a Chevrolet Bolt. Its available now, has the same range and.... all the panel gaps & trim will line-up.
    • Re:Reserved Model 3? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Cyberax ( 705495 ) on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @01:50AM (#53602585)
      Oh please. I've test-driven Bolt and it's nowhere close to Tesla. It's also purely a city car, you can't use it for road trips. There's no fast charging infrastructure for CCS (Combined Charging System) and even existing few stations are limited to 50kW versus 120kW for the current-gen Tesla superchargers.

      With superchargers and some planning you can comfortably drive pretty much to any point of interest in the US - I have more than 50k miles on my 2 year old Tesla just from road trips.
      • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

        by Luthair ( 847766 )
        The model 3 isn't years from production and you know what its like? Any tips on lottery tickets.
        • by Cyberax ( 705495 )
          Even low-end Tesla S60 is way nicer than Bolt - it has nicer handling, better acceleration and range. And the charging infrastructure for Tesla is available right now: https://supercharge.info/ [supercharge.info]
          • by Luthair ( 847766 )
            A Tesla S 60 is 72k a Bolt is 37k.
          • by Luthair ( 847766 )
            I'll make you a bet, $100 to charity. Someone who takes a 3-year lease on the a Chevy Bolt today will return the car before Tesla fulfills even half the pre-orders on the 3.
    • by short ( 66530 )
      Bolt has no 4WD variant - for snowy roads (plus other disadvantages in other comments).
    • by bgarcia ( 33222 )
      That's a great idea!

      I went on Chevy's website, and configured a Bolt exactly the way I want it. I got all the way to the end... and there was no "BUY" button! WTF? How are they able to sell these when they forgot to even put a BUY button on their website?

    • Available now? To whom? People like Woz, sure, they'll be delivering his shortly because it buys good PR. Regular people, not so much. So far Bolt is shipping only in CA and OR, in limited quantities and only if you reserved a while back. Of course, Model 3 is not available either, so as of right now, except for very few people, neither is available. However, I bet there are more Model 3 reservation holders that decided and actually took possession of a used Model S or even a new one, than there are people

    • The Bolt's looking more and more like another compliance car. Notice they minimized any capital investment, outsourcing the drivetrain to LG and building it on the same line as the Sonic. They are only offering it in CARB states and at negative margins of 9k, which happen to coincide with the available ZEV credits. https://www.bloomberg.com/news... [bloomberg.com]

      I think it's clear by now that Tesla is 100% committed to the success of the EV. If the ZEV requirements were dropped tomorrow, GM would ax the Bolt without he

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I am not a hater of EV technology but if your going to really make a dent you can't cater to the 1%. The people who could really benefit from EV technology are not the 1% it's the rest of us. Is Tesla trying to serve everyone? Or just a few? When Henry Ford made history he was making a vehicle for the masses.

    • by jblues ( 1703158 ) on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @10:53PM (#53602057)

      That's exactly the strategy:

      "The strategy of Tesla is to enter at the high end of the market, where customers are prepared to pay a premium, and then drive down market as fast as possible to higher unit volume and lower prices with each successive model.

      https://www.tesla.com/nl_NL/blog/secret-tesla-motors-master-plan-just-between-you-and-me

    • It's a hell of a growth curve, and the rest of us have always come after the 1% pays for the development. Frankly, I'd rather have it that way.
    • by Kjella ( 173770 ) on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @12:23AM (#53602379) Homepage

      I am not a hater of EV technology but if your going to really make a dent you can't cater to the 1%. The people who could really benefit from EV technology are not the 1% it's the rest of us. Is Tesla trying to serve everyone? Or just a few? When Henry Ford made history he was making a vehicle for the masses.

      The Ford Motor Company was founded in 1903. The first mass market car was the Model T in 1908. Before T there was A, S and K that was their "Roadster", "Model S" and "Model X". It's just that hardly anyone remembers, because T became the famous one. If the giga-factory and "Model 3" pays off and sells millions, it'll be straight out of the same playbook.

      • by Luthair ( 847766 )
        Tesla was founded 9-years ago, and we're still years away from any mass market product.
        • by sxpert ( 139117 ) on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @02:21AM (#53602655)
          "years away" in your book is about 400 days...
          • Hmm... predicted at 400 days. Given my standard x3 for implementation multiplier (for software, probably should be higher for hardware) for anything that long, I say "years" is probably accurate.

        • Tesla was founded 9-years ago, and we're still years away from any mass market product.

          Interesting you're so specific on years and the term mass market.

          FoMoCo founded in 1903, but in 1912 they sold 68000 Model T cars.
          Tesla 9 years after being founded sold 76000 Model S cars. Also in terms of total units sold Telsa is miles ahead of where Ford was after 9 years.

  • So they failed my personal goal.
    • Did you order one? I didn't get mine either despite how much I want one. However I didn't order one because I'm poor lol.

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