Project Seeks To Build Inexpensive 9-inch Monitor For Raspberry Pi 176
angry tapir writes "A Kickstarter project is aiming to bring an inexpensive 9-inch portable monitor to the popular US$25 Raspberry Pi PC, which comes without a keyboard, mouse or monitor. The "HDMIPi" will include an LCD panel that will show images at a resolution of 1280 x 800 pixels. Computers can be hooked up to the monitor via an HDMI controller board that can be wired to the LCD. The display is being made by Raspi.TV and Cyntech."
16:10... I approve (Score:2)
Yes, 1280x800 is a horribly small resolution. But at least it's a good aspect ratio. 4:3 is bad for entertainment use - movies, games, and the like. 16:9 is similarly weak in productive use - even putting two windows side-by-side, it's not tall enough, and rotating it to portrait mode is often laughable. But, IMO, 16:10 is a good compromise - it works well for anything you do with it.
If it weren't for the fact that 2560x1600 monitors are absurdly overpriced compared to 2560x1440, I'd have gotten one of thos
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Would anyone really be likely to use a 9" screen hooked up to a RPi for any of those endeavors, though? Iworked recently with an old computer of mine with an 11" monitor, and it felt cramped enough that Iwouldn't use it if Ihad a larger screen of any sort available.
That said, don't forget that there's a growing number of people getting into older games, which were primarily written for 4:3 screens, as are a lot of games written for use in a windowed environment (some genres are also more comfortable for me
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Those are called shrooms, and you find them more on Cow shit than horse shit.
HDMIPi? Come on! (Score:4, Interesting)
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If they want people to pronounce it "HD my Pi" they should call it "HDmiPi" or "HDmyPi", not "HDMIPi" which people will read as "HDMI-Pi". Sorry about all the "quotes" in my "reply".
"lasers".
Found several... (Score:2, Insightful)
This project would be nothing if not for the clever marketing of linking this to the Raspberry Pi. Otherwise, it's just an overpriced, under-spec'd and under-featured monitor. With the switch to HDTV, every cheap little TV out there has HDMI inputs, and can incidentally also work as a TV:
19" HDTV under $100:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Seiki-SE19HY10-19-720p-60Hz-LED-HDTV/28379383 [walmart.com]
7" HDMI touch, under $100:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161137962772 [ebay.com]
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Don't be a doofus. Is the 19" one portable? No! And that is important to some of us. We already have large/cheap displays. We want portable/cheap displays!
The 7" one you listed is utter joke. First of all it is not under $100. You forgot to look at the sneaky $70 shipping charge. After you add that, you are looking at $150. Oh and you also forgot to look at the resolution. 1024x768. It seems that you haven't been paying attention. But, by now, that isn't surprising.
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A fair point, but there are many, many, MANY others without the ridiculous shipping charges:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-9-Digital-Stand-alone-Headrest-Monitor-Screen-HDMI-VGA-Port-Touch-Button-HD-/171098185346 [ebay.com]
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Don't be a doofus. Is the 19" one portable?
It could be. Just tell everyone its your MagnumPi.
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Wanted to give +funny mod but couldn't because I already posted comments.
+Funny mods should always be allowed since they don't affect karma.
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+Funny mods should always be allowed since they don't affect karma.
So you think anyone should be able to create a shill account and pull their worthless troll comments to a +5 reading level?
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They would still need mod points to begin with, shill account or not.
those aren't proper ones (Score:3)
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Oh yeah?
Condition: New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging (where packaging is applicable). Packaging should be the same as what is found in a retail store, unless the item is handmade or was packaged by the manufacturer in non-retail packaging, such as an unprinted box or plastic bag.
Re:Found several... (Score:4, Interesting)
7" HDMI touch, under $100:
Not at all comparable. For a start it's a private one-off eBay listing, not something that anyone can buy from a website. It is also not HD, and in my experience you often can't use this kind of screen's native resolution directly as it is designed to only accept SD, 720p and maybe 1080i. That's okay for a TV but useless for a computer where you want sharp pixel perfect font rendering.
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The cheapest available option on the Kickstarter is 75GBP, or about $120 USD.
Here's a bare 10.1" 1366x768 for $89 [seeedstudio.com]
There's also a 7" 1280x800 display with enclosure, VGA input, etc. for $129 shipped, although it's currently out of stock [seeedstudio.com]
I don't see how this is really bringing anything new or cheaper to the table. If they could get this manufactured and sold for a retail price of $50, that would be much more interesting, IMO.
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While the HDTV might be an option, forget about that '7" HDMI touch' display unless you think a native resolution of 800x480 is enough for all your computing needs. Yes, it says nice things like '1080p' but all that means is it can accept signals close to that resolution and rate. It down-converts them to be displayed on a WVGA screen. The ad you linked to does not mention this, but then it is a 'US seller'. Better link to the source which is not the US but China:
7-Touch-Screen-Display-HDMI-1080p-RCA-AV-VGA [ebay.com]
Used TVs (Score:2)
With the switch to HDTV, every cheap little TV out there has HDMI inputs
New ones do, I'll grant. Used TVs at pawn shops and charity shops still don't. I see CRT SDTVs in local charity shops that don't even have composite in; all they have is RF, with an analog tuner that only picks up low-power stations exempt from the switchoff.
Not just for Raspberry Pi (Score:5, Interesting)
I shoot videos with my DSLR. And I have often wanted a portable HDMI monitor for my rig. When I looked, I was quite surprised to find out that no reasonable options exist. Most portable HDMI monitors utterly suck. They are bulky and max out the resolution at 800x480 or 1024x768. The ones that do not suck are uber expensive. Since this is just a hobby for me, I did not want to shell out the big bucks.
I have been quite surprised that I can buy a $200 Nexus 7 tablet with 1080P display, but cannot get a 1080p or even a 720p portable monitor for anything even close to that.
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It's because the DRM required to receive and decrypt HDMI adds a lot of expense. Inside the Nexus 7 the GPU has a direct digital interface to the LCD that doesn't do any scaling, colour correction or encryption. It's actually cheaper than the old analogue DAC system.
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HDCP isn't required to make HDMI function. That's only required for input sources that are DRM'ed. Doubt you'd find that in a DSLR or an R-pi, so there's no technical reason at all.
Tying (Score:2)
HDCP isn't required to make HDMI function.
But I'd bet it is required to license one or more of the "HDMI" trademark, the patented connector shape, and the patented signaling mechanism.
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Sure, but try to buy a HDMI receiver chip without it. Since 99.99% of them are used in TVs they need to implement HDCP, or most of the devices people attach won't work.
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And many of these chips have the HDCP key flashed into EEPROM (Analog Devices AD9889 is one example). If you don't put in a key, you don't need to license HDCP.
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framing/focus/levels. If you know your camera, you don't need a color-accurate preview image.
16:10 Win (Score:2)
Given that Atrix dock is cheap and can be hacked (Score:2)
Given that Atrix dock is cheaper than the target price and can be hacked (and we did just that at Google when Hexxeh interned there), why not just make a plastic case with a couple of connectors on it, and clip the Pi into it?
Great! (Score:2)
The biggest obstacle to using the RPi in a lot of projects is the cost of a monitor. You'd think with all the cellphones out there small monitors would be easy to find but really there's nothing for under $150 worth your time.
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Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:4, Informative)
No, they're going to build an HDMI touchscreen with the Pi in mind. It's not a computer - it's just a screen.
Unfortunately - it isn't the Pi screen everyone wants. The thing people are screaming for is the one the Pi folks have promised us - the DSI screen.
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:5, Insightful)
Unfortunately - it isn't the Pi screen everyone wants. The thing people are screaming for is the one the Pi folks have promised us - the DSI screen.
we dont even need DSI screen, just DSI driver
just like we need UNIVERSAL CSI driver, not that binary blob garbage locked to one module crap they ship with camera.
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Nintendo DSI screen?
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:5, Informative)
Negative
DSI = Display Serial Interface
http://www.mipi.org/specifications/display-interface [mipi.org]
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:5, Insightful)
Clearly you've never programmed bare metal as we did in the days of the Commodore 64, TRS-80, Apple II, Commodore PET, etc.
It was *fun* back then. There wasn't even a debounced keyboard driver for most of those machines. You had to map the bits of the IO ports to individual keys. :)
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:4)
Clearly you've never programmed bare metal as we did in the days of the Commodore 64, TRS-80, Apple II, Commodore PET, etc.
It was *fun* back then. There wasn't even a debounced keyboard driver for most of those machines. You had to map the bits of the IO ports to individual keys. :)
These days we use Arduinos. Try writing a software TV output or SID chip emulator on one...
A Raspberry Pi is a bit too much like having a real computer.
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peek and poke..
Computers have gone downhill since they no longer have those programming calls. Sometimes, I just want to see what is in a specific memory location and other times, I just want to put something there. F**k pointers.
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You clearly don't understand cost analysis. A cheap tablet plus an Arduino or similar attached to it provides all of that without an additional computer since you can install a more full-fledged Linux on some of them, or you can install more Linuxy bits in a chroot and use that to run even the IDE.
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Or you can just simply buy a $200 laptop that is magnitudes more powerful?
Sadly, the $200 laptop will probably lack GPIO, so you'll still need the Arduino. Even LPT ports are mostly gone.
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:5, Funny)
Can't really compare python to real programming. Python is for babies, real men program so close to hardware they can feel the pin states switching and sense the memory locations.
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real men program so close to hardware
Pfft. Real Men are hardware.
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Are we not men (who program)?
We are Dev(el)o(pers)!
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Butterflies.
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Two reasons:
1) I can super glue it into a home-made device of some sort and not have two worry about cost.
2) You can give it to your kids and keep a SD image ready and you no need to worry about them going "what happens when I do "sudo rm -rf /".
Both are not about just programming. They are about understand complete systems. You don't need to use a Pi, but they are cheap and fairly well supported.
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Which defeats the silly monitor they're talking about - at a best case "goal" price of US$100 (already 2/3 of the cost of existing retail solutions quoted in the article), its not a throwaway piece.
320x240 (Score:2)
Personally I don't see the monitor as part of the "learn programming" goal. The monitor that fits that goal is your TV
If you happen not to be able to afford a new TV, then you'll have to use the CRT SDTV that you already own or can get at a pawn shop. Good luck working at close to 320x240* like they used to back in the days of 8-bit microcomputers, as that's all a standard-definition NTSC TV can display through composite.
* True, analog video doesn't have discrete horizontal pixels, but composite video does have a luma-chroma crossover filter at 3 MHz, and sampling luma at the Nyquist rate of 6 MHz over the 47 microsecon
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9" LCD TV's can be had for less than $50.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Philips-PT902-9-Portable-Digital-LCD-TV-with-FM-Tuner-and-hdtv-tuner-/111204767070 [ebay.com]
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You already can, get a 3-4 inch $12.00 rear view camera screen and do it. Hell I have one running the pong clock on my desk right now. 720X480 is good enough for 99% of the projects out there.
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HDMI is not ideal at low resolutions or at that price point. same monitor in HDMI will be over $90, composite video works great for that as it's easy to remove the connector and make the whole thing very compact.
on small screens you use LARGE text and it looks fantastic. if you think you will run X and use it as a desktop, then look elsewhere. if you are using it as information display interface (and you can get a touchscreen overlay for it) it works perfectly and a lot of RasPi projects are using them.
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Either don't give them root access, or use it as a learning experience where they can learn not to run commands they don't understand
Learning experiences are all about doing things you don't understand. Or at least, don't fully understand yet. Don't teach them not to try new things, teach them to know when they're taking risks and to plan for what they'll do when things go wrong.
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:4, Interesting)
The way I see the Pi is the point is the kids do get root. They get to own the computer and as "reinstall" is "dump data on a SD card" it is "safe" to work this way.
It is not the only way you can do this but it is cheap (good for the parent) and completely customizable by the kid and becoming fairly well supported by the community.
As part of an IT course I could easily see this "spilling out" of IT, your programing section teaches you language X, the metal work class has you make a case, the electronics class has you make use of the GPIO pins and you write your English homework in Abiword on it.
Plus the price means you could give one to each of your student (or at least give a SD card knowing that they could buy one and it would be identical to the one at school when you plug in your SD card).
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:4, Interesting)
Because it can run off of 4 AA batteries for a very long time or run off of a $12.00 solar panel. Let me guess, you ASSUME that everyone on the planet has electrical power or Stable electrical power.
get me a low power display and suddenly you have a computer that is useable in a 3rd world classroom that can run a lab of 10 of them for a day off of the teachers car battery.
Rich people hate it because it levels the education playing field.
Time limits on someone else's computer (Score:2)
Just install Python on whatever computer you're using right now.
That doesn't help when you have access to someone else's computer for a half hour a week, with no privilege to install software, but would potentially have access to your own Raspberry Pi for an hour or more per day.
Dell doesn't run robots, calculators aren't arithm (Score:2)
Two reasons. One, on the desktop it's hard to get into the programming that gets kids excited. A "robot" that handles your pet feeding chore for you is way cooler than printing words on the screen.
When I was a kid, we still cooked pudding, which had to be stirred non-stop while it cooked . I built a machine that did the stirring.
Also, while Python is very useful, there are things you won't learn with Python. Like learning basic arithmetic before you use a calculator, anyone working with technology benefits
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:5, Insightful)
How many GPIO pins does your ARM tablet have by the way? I sometimes wire wrap discrete components and sensors and stuff to the ones on my Raspberry Pi and write software to drive them.
The Raspberry Pi isn't just a cheap ARM-based PC. An important part of its vision is to bring back the spirit of hacking, both software and hardware, that used to be possible in the old computers of the 1980s. This has become very difficult to do on modern x86 PCs, and is all but impossible on mobile devices. The people who bash the Pi these days tend to forget that part for some reason.
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Just as many as you plug-in to the USB port...
http://numato.com/8-channel-usb-gpio-module [numato.com]
You're right, it isn't that cheap, gets expensive fast, and even then makes a lousy PC.
Software hacking can be done on any system, and equipment with higher p
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:5, Insightful)
A port expander is *not* the same thing as GPIOs - it means you incur the delays associated with doing things over USB/I2C/etc. Maybe that's ok if all you want to do is flash some LEDs or turn on a relay, but for timing constrained applications, that's not feasible.
nanoseconds. It's jitter that counts (Score:2)
With interrupts disabled latency in measured in nanoseconds. Of course for most applications, jitter matters more than latency. that is to say, if you know the latency is 100ns, you execute the instruction 100ns sooner. With USB, latency could be 100ns or 10,000ns, it's not consistent, so you can't control the timing.
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If you're a ten year old kid like some of us were in the 1980s, do you think it'll feel like a good idea plugging in one of those GPIO things into your PC hooked up to hardware you soldered up together? If you screw up you could conceivably damage or destroy your PC, and your parents are going to kill you as it cost them $500+ to get that thing for you. On the other hand, with a $35 Raspberry Pi, that's in the range of something a kid these days can actually save up for from their allowance, and if they scr
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:5, Informative)
Nonsense. For the other stuff you need to buy, a case is the only one that has to be custom made, but I bought mine for only about $8 from RS as I recall. Most modern mobile phones have MicroUSB chargers that can readily be used with the RPi. The official power supply from RS was $15 when I bought it, and now I wish I hadn't, because mobile phone chargers that can produce 5V/2A DC can be had for less than $5. And who the hell doesn't have tons of old SD cards lying around? I have dozens of old 2GB-4GB cards lying around, gathering dust, left over from old digital cameras and such. In any case I can buy a new 4GB card for approximately $5 (or an 8GB for $8), and that's more than enough space to install Raspbian. Total bill thus comes up to $35 + $8 + $5 + $5 = $53.
Now, I see that you can probably buy a refurbished 300 MHz Pentium II-based PC (which is how powerful the Raspberry Pi's processor is said to be on their FAQ) for $60-$70 or so, but it would have only 64-128 megs RAM (good luck finding more RAM compatible with it), and probably an old IDE hard drive that is smaller than the $5 SD card (sorry, SATA didn't exist when that machine was manufactured), and no or very primitive 2D/3D acceleration (no luck doing H.264 decoding on such hardware, so it can't even run XBMC), and it consumes ten times more power. So you just spent $20 more for a machine inferior in almost every way to the Raspberry Pi. Good call.
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My Pentium II PC has 1GB of ECC RAM and 4+ TB of disk you insensitive clod!
It started out as a Celeron 300A but I upgraded it to a 1.2GHz Pentium 3. The Celeron 300A now has 384MB of ECC RAM and acts as my BSD router and firewall.
Inexpensive used RAM and parts are actually pretty easy to find for these systems.
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And even if you did need low-power, a tablet or an old netBook would be cheaper and lower power... Even a NEW Acer ChromeBook is pretty inexpensive and low powered, while having far superior specs, including the screen.
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Power supply? Free - already have one from an old broken router. Replacements can be had at any secondhand store or yard sale. SD card? $5 if you only need 4GB. Case? Not absolutely necessary.
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Only if you don't want a monitor with it.
Gee... what's the topic of this story and thread, again?
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Everything I've seen indicates an ARM tablet is the cheaper, smaller, lighter, lower-power option once you factor in a screen.
If you've got anything to offer, other than baseless assertions, let's hear it.
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:5, Interesting)
Agreed. The other thing that people seem to choose to ignore is the value in a standadised platform and a helpful community around that. All the things the RPi does is possible by other means, of course, but what happens when you're starting out and don't know what you're doing? There's a big community around the RPi, magazines, tutorials, forums, all people who know what hardware you have and can answer your questions directly.
I'm a programmer by trade, but I know very little about analogue electronics. RPi community means I can get out into building physical things, which would be far harder if someone just threw a USB GPIO board at me with no extra help.
Spirit of hacking (Score:2)
bring back the spirit of hacking, both software and hardware
And for that the Pi is a failure. It needs an O/S, which makes it difficult as an entry level and it can't even do analog inputs on its own.
The spirit of hacking was alive and as well as could be expected with the Aeduino, before the Pi came along - and it will be just as healthy after the Pi metamorphoses into an overpriced and underpowered LEGO-brick style tablet that doesn't work properly.
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The Pi does not need an OS. you can run software directly on the bare metal. What moron told you it needs an OS?
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How many GPIO pins does your ARM tablet have by the way?
Just plug something like this [wordpress.com] into your tablet.
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How many GPIO pins does your ARM tablet have by the way?
Just plug something like this [wordpress.com] into your tablet.
You know that open usb io board is twice the cost of a raspberry pi, right?
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afaik nobody is using the gpio pins well enough to run steppers etc directly off it.
buying a tablet and arduino+usb-otg shield isn't too bad(clones! the official boards are horribly expensive). some official google sw for it too..
but the learn to program excuse is.. well it's an excuse. I've yet to learn anyone having bought and used one to learn to program, I know several who bought it to run their home automations etc - but they all knew how to program beforehand anyways.
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and is all but impossible on mobile devices
Now you are just spreading FUD. LMGTFY [lmgtfy.com]
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:5, Interesting)
There are tons of hardware add-ons to the Pi that are simply not possible with a PC (and difficult with most tablets).
Like what? (Score:2)
I have devices here that I bought from run of the mill hacking websites that speak SPI, I2C, TWI, UART, and can be scripted and bitbanged to communicate in any protocol I so choose. They also offer basic ADC, and PWM. Hell one of the little adapters I have even speaks natively to HD44780 based LCDs.
What can you do on the RaspberyPi which you can't do with the appropriate card on an actual PC?
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Put it in your pocket.
Say "yeah, whatever" if it gets broken or taffed.
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"Taffed"?
I don't usually raise my hand to ask for a definition, but when Google and Urban Dictionary say they've never heard of it, I figure I've done my due diligence.
Re:Like what? (Score:4, Funny)
He carriesa lot of taffy in his pockets, so if the RasPi is in his pocket it get's Taffed.. some taffy is so sticky it will pull chips off the board.
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Obviously you have trouble with pages. It's meaning #12, you flid.
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Not possible with a PC? you dont know much about pc's.
I can do a LOT more with a PC than a pi. interface to a lot more than the pi could ever dream of.
the pi is CHEAP and very low power. it can not do more than what a full blown PC can do.
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No sense much trying to do a lot of numerical heavy lifting with an Arduino. It simply does not have the horsepower or memory for it. It can act as an intermediary between a tablet which has all sorts of horsepower, and a platform controlling motors and reading sensors.
If the application is quite menial ( say datalogging ), an Arduino can handle it quite nicely on its
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The Parallax Propeller looks very cool.
However, I'm a big fan of the XMOS chips, which also provide multiple cores and logical cores that provide guaranteed timing. Really great performance. They've recently made two announcements that are worth mentioning to slashdotters that have read this far into the thread:
A $15 development board (startKIT) [xmos.com] that has a Raspberry PI interface built in (or can be used standalone), and
A new SOC (xCORE-XA) [xmos.com] that marries an ARM processor to an XMOS processor.
In both of the
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Might be, but what they have to do with spirit of hacking?
I say, just realizing that instead of clicking buttons you can automate your everyday tasks, may be even simply with shell scripts, is already in the spirit of hacking, as well as the next step of realizing you can extend them to do much more interesting things than simply replacing a human clicking on buttons.
Why do you need GPIO to feel that spirit?
More importantly, why do you feel it's so important to knock a path that someone chooses to walk and they find real fulfillment? There's a dedicated culture of tech enthusiasts surrounding the Raspberry PI. No one is asking you to contribute one red schilling. You have your way of doing things, I have mine, and the Pi folks have theirs. As long as we all bear some kind of fruit from our harvests, try celebrating diversity instead of knocking it. You'll make a lot more friends and the world you experien
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:4, Insightful)
Your definition of hacking sounds like all software to me. I mentioned software and hardware. There isn't even a plain RS-232 serial or Centronics/IEEE-1284 parallel port on most modern PCs any more, which were the easiest ways to do hardware interfacing back in the day, and you'll be lucky to even have a host USB port on most mobile devices. USB can be used to do hardware interfacing, but it is in no way as trivial as serial or parallel port interfacing used to be. You could actually wire TTL-level logic straight to a parallel port, and you can wire the same stuff to the Raspberry Pi's GPIO pins with just a pull-down resistor (or you could use 3.3v CMOS logic instead).
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USB based parallel and serial adapters have much lower performance than bus based interfaces. They only work in some cases. Interfacing to a microntroller board via USB solves this problem if legacy serial or parallel access on the PC is not required and low level programming on the microcontroller board is acceptable.
I use PCI or PCIe serial and parallel adapters instead of USB adapters for legacy applications.
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Yes that would be my argument too, but why not an arduino?
Re:Gee, they're going to build an ARM-based comput (Score:5, Informative)
Arduino is very "light-duty" - this summer's best Arduino board had an 32-bit ARM processor at some 80 MHz, with 512 kB of flash and 96KB of RAM.
Meanwhile, the Raspberry PI runs at about 1GHz, has 512 MB of RAM.
Meanwhile, an x86 (64 bits) processor runs 4 or more cores at 3+ GHz and can access 16+ GB of RAM.
None of it is "better" than the other, they're just optimal for different tasks - Arduino for easy hardware work, prototyping and very low power, Raspberry PI for more processing power at a low price, and so on. Just like some people need a semi and some need an ultracompact car
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Yep, some people need a semi, some need an ultra-compact car -- and some need a minivan. And, just like Raspberry Pi users, the minivan drivers will catch a lot of grief from people whose self-image is somehow wrapped up in hardware choices.
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Or think of yourself as a 30-year old kid who has a fascination with computers and stuff, the way I was last month, in the middle of owning my 4th or 5th gaming laptop. I did not even realize I could get a GPIO adapter to get me into hardware hacking. It took me about 30 minutes or so to screw with currents large enough to conceivably damage my $1700 laptop that I do not want to deal with getting fixed or replaced. I blew away a $35 Rasberry Pi, and the worst part was having to wait 2days for the new one to
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The original spirit of hacking was finding ways to make hardware do things far beyond what its creators intended or even realized was possible -- pushing it to its limits -- either by altering the hardware itself (like by soldering new connections), or by reprogramming the firmware. It takes a great deal of raw creativity of the sort that the vast majority of adults lose before adulthood, from what Ican tell, and for experienced hacking, highly detailed knowledge of the hardware.
The software-focused activi
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You are talking about software, you haven't mentioned hardware. One of the big uses for the Pi is not making yet another PC but a cheap hardware development platform. If you want to make a robot with a web interface, web cam, and plenty of processing power, you aren't going to use android or an X86-64 PC. Linux running on the Pi can interface with motors and sensors using the onboard GPIO while giving the user a real OS to work in with plenty of memory and video. It can also run off of a relatively small ba
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we eat european babies....
I want to eat a baby! Get in mah BELLY!
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i just want to understand how do americans get so fat?
A book called "Eat to Live" explains the issue quite well. Dr. Joel Fuhrman points out why our diets cause weight gain and how to fix it... but most people would rather die. The book is well worth a read and available at libraries as well as bookstores.
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1. You assume that everybody has an LVDS panel lying around that they can use with the HDMI-LVDS converter you linked to.
2. The HDMI-LVDS converter you linked to costs $53. $35 + $18 shipping. I am not sure why 50 gram package costs $18 to ship. Shady. USPS can ship a small flat rate box anywhere in the country for about $5. And that is for 2-day delivery.
For some of us a package that includes panel, case and a converter is a better way to go than an overpriced converter alone.
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Except this time it's an ARM CPU, it has standard connectors, it's dirt cheap and it will have a colour and widescreen display with this project.
You're right, it's totally the same!
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That's nice, but not HD. The 9.7" is close to HD, but only available in a minimum order quantity of 10 units. The project name is a play on words - HDMI-Pi = HD My Pi.
Neither display indicates being able to receive a signal at the native resolution.