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Inside Mantis: a 2-Ton Hexapod Robot With a Linux Brain 84

DeviceGuru writes "After four years of development, Micromagic Systems has finally completed the Mantis Hexapod Walking Machine (YouTube video), claimed to be the world's largest all-terrain operational hexapod robot. The device stands nearly three meters tall, weighs just under two tons, and is controlled by a PC/104 module stack running embedded Linux."
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Inside Mantis: a 2-Ton Hexapod Robot With a Linux Brain

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  • Dubstep Warning (Score:5, Informative)

    by locater16 ( 2326718 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @04:13AM (#43377019)
    Warning, obnoxious dubstep sountrack for video. You have been warned.
  • Horrible video (Score:5, Informative)

    by homb ( 82455 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @04:15AM (#43377023)

    The video couldn't have been worse, considering how interesting the subject is.
    The videographer should be shot on general principle.

  • Robot? (Score:4, Informative)

    by theNetImp ( 190602 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @04:17AM (#43377029)

    So er it has a driver... That makes it not a robot!

    • by homb ( 82455 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @04:22AM (#43377045)

      It can be controlled remotely via wifi. The in-seat driver is optional.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @04:34AM (#43377087)

        What difference does it make if the driver is remote or not?

        • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @05:15AM (#43377191)

          it doesnt

          • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @06:27AM (#43377413)

            What would you class as a robot?? Would you say Asimo is a robot, or big dog? because both of those still have drivers behind the scenes. Only when big dog is in follow the leader mode does it not need the driver! In fact, a washing machine is probably closer to a true robot than all of these, but who wants to sit in a washing machine and drive it around!! So much negativity!

            • by v1 ( 525388 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @11:33AM (#43378825) Homepage Journal

              What would you class as a robot??

              The term "robot" has been around for quite awhile, and due to its broad use, it doesn't have a very clear definition.

              About all the agreement you're going to get on it is that a robot is a mechanical device capable of performing automated actions. It generally doesn't have to emulate physical (walking) or cognitive (AI) biological features. My dish washer is technically a robot. It's not very glamorous, but there you have it.

              Robots exist in all degrees of "autonomy". It can be a difficult line to draw. If you start with a remote controlled plane, it meets the most basic automation definition of "robot" as soon as it can auto pilot.

              I'd tend to call a machine a more "modern" robot when it is able to do more than directly react to stimulus. (which is all that an airplane autopilot does) A "decision maker by necessity". The Mars Curiosity robot for example. It's impractical to operate it purely by remote control. It has to evaluate its circumstances, assess priorities and capabilities, select a high level goal, ("analyze that rock over there") and then execute a series of actions (customized at that time based on current circumstances) to accomplish the goal.

              But I suppose I'm thinking more of "automaton" than of robot?

              • by bughunter ( 10093 ) <[ten.knilhtrae] [ta] [retnuhgub]> on Saturday April 06, 2013 @11:50AM (#43378945) Journal

                Robot is one of those terms like "artificial intelligence" that keeps getting diluted by overreaching marketing use. The cumulative effect is to drag down the term rather than inflate the product.

                "Robot" has devolved from meaning a conscious, completely autonomous, usually humanoid, self-contained machine capable of making its own decisions (thus the need for Three Laws of Robotics) to meaning any servomechanism under human control aided by a PID Loop or Kalman Filter to relieve the operator from the most routine tasks.

      • by Osgeld ( 1900440 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @05:17AM (#43377195)

        I can start my car and access my house via wifi, and control many aspects of it with a phone, is that a robot, acc to your theory its the fucking terminator

    • by Adult film producer ( 866485 ) <van@i2pmail.org> on Saturday April 06, 2013 @06:17AM (#43377391)
      Not really so much a robot but an exoskeleton for your inner insect.
    • by roman_mir ( 125474 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @09:36AM (#43378091) Homepage Journal

      You don't get it, the driver is the robot that runs on penguins.

    • by MikeBabcock ( 65886 ) <mtb-slashdot@mikebabcock.ca> on Saturday April 06, 2013 @10:36AM (#43378403) Homepage Journal

      Its not autonomous but its a robot. There's a difference.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @04:33AM (#43377077)

    Big body, small brain. I'm not sure that's how we should build machines.

  • by tumutbound ( 549414 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @04:45AM (#43377117)
    I want my octopod! And I want it to climb walls.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @04:46AM (#43377125)

    I was really excited to open the video, and... I'm not sure they could have made a 2 ton hexapod vehicle any more boring to watch. Good job?

  • by Osgeld ( 1900440 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @05:07AM (#43377173)

    it went almost 10 feet in 2 min and 100 jump cuts

    it put its foot on a pile of stuff then jump cut to it walking on smooth tarmac

    it kicked a barrel while standing completely still

    meanwhile a stupid mid 80's army hummer can travel at highway speeds. can scale a 3 foot wall, and who gives a shit about a barrel, an empty cylinder is not a problem when you have wheels that dont span 15 feet wide

    • by VortexCortex ( 1117377 ) <VortexCortex@pro ... m minus language> on Saturday April 06, 2013 @05:25AM (#43377215)

      Yes, but your mid 80's army hummer doesn't run Linux, and has unformfortable teeth...

    • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @06:04AM (#43377337)

      it went almost 10 feet in 2 min and 100 jump cuts

      it put its foot on a pile of stuff then jump cut to it walking on smooth tarmac

      it kicked a barrel while standing completely still

      meanwhile a stupid mid 80's army hummer can travel at highway speeds. can scale a 3 foot wall, and who gives a shit about a barrel, an empty cylinder is not a problem when you have wheels that dont span 15 feet wide

      Really! Why call it "all terrain" when its really "paved flat surface" . When I read all terrain I was expecting it at least being designed to be able to lift its feet more than 2 feet and for it to be able to place them at an arbitrary height. I think it was twenty years since I saw a thing just like this one... and it required no "software stack" to walk.

  • by Alex Vulpes ( 2836855 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @05:19AM (#43377203)
    But does it run Linux?

    Oh wait, yes it does. Never mind then.
  • by Gnulix ( 534608 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @05:29AM (#43377231) Homepage
    Bow to the hexapods!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @05:30AM (#43377237)

    Microsoft Kinect Spy System (THIS ARTICLE IS BEING SCRUBBED FROM THE NET - Pin, Archive, Share this article quickly!

    = Microsoft Kinect Spy System

    THIS ARTICLE IS BEING SCRUBBED FROM THE NET. THE SITE IT WAS ORIGINALLY POSTED TO YANKED THE PLUG ON THEIR WHOLE SITE!!! COPY/PASTE THIS ARTICLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO DISCUSSION FORUMS, BLOGS, FACEBOOK, TWITTER, AND ARCHIVE AND MIRROR THIS DOCUMENT SO IT DOES NOT VANISH FOREVER!

    "So you just got the Kinect/Xbox360 gaming system and you're having fun, hanging out in your underwear, plopped down in your favorite lounge chair, and playing games with your buddies. Yeah, it's great to have a microphone and camera in your game system so you can "Kinect" to your pals while you play, but did you read that Terms of Service Agreement that came with your Kinect thingy? No? Here, let me point out an important part of that service agreement.

    If you accept the agreement, you "expressly authorize and consent to us accessing or disclosing information about you, including the content of your communications, in order to: (a) comply with the law or respond to lawful requests or legal process; (b) protect the rights or property of Microsoft, our partners, or our customers, including the enforcement of our agreements or policies governing your use of the Service; or © act on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers, or the public."

    Did you catch that? Here, let me print the important part in really big letters.

    "If you accept the agreement, you expressly authorize and consent to us accessing or disclosing information about you, including the content of your communications⦠on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers, or the public."

    OK, is that clear enough for ya? When you use the Kinect system, you agree to allow Microsoft (and any branch of law enforcement or government they care to share information with) to use your Kinect system to spy on you. Maybe run that facial recognition software to check you out, listen to your conversations, and keep track of who you are communicating with.

    I know this is probably old news to some, but I thought I would mention it because it pertains to almost all of these home game systems that are interactive. You have to remember, the camera and microphone contained in your game system have the ability to be hacked by anyone the game company gives that ability to, and that includes government snoops and law enforcement agents.

    Hey, it's MICROSOFT. What did you expect?

    And the same concerns apply to all interactive game systems. Just something to think about if you're having a "Naked Wii party" or doing something illegal while you're gaming with your buddies. Or maybe you say something suspicious and it triggers the DHS software to start tracking your every word. Hey, this is not paranoia. It's spelled out for you, right there in that Service Agreement. Read it! Here's one more part of the agreement you should be aware of.

    "You should not expect any level of privacy concerning your use of the live communication features (for example, voice chat, video and communications in live-hosted gameplay sessions) offered through the Service."

    Did you catch it that time? YOU SHOULD NOT EXPECT ANY LEVEL OF PRIVACY concerning your voice chat and video features on your Kinect box."

    ###

    = "Listen up, you ignorant sheep. Your government is spending more money than ever to spy on its own citizens. That's YOU, my friend. And if you're one of these people who say, "Well I ain't ever done nothing wrong so why should I worry about it?' - you are dead wrong. Our civil liberties are being taken away faster than you can spit. The NSA is working away on its new "First Intelligence Community Comprehensive National Cyber-security Initiative Data Center' to keep track of every last one of us. This thing will be

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @06:06AM (#43377343)

    Going from the promo video, the thing is heavy, slow, huge, seats only one and isn't even terrain capable. Maybe Micromagic Systems is a subsidiary of EA?

  • by Tx ( 96709 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @06:07AM (#43377347) Journal

    #notarobot
    #notquick
    #bumpyride
    #ihatespiders
    #diedubstepdie

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @06:15AM (#43377387)

    Microsoft Kinect Spy System (THIS ARTICLE IS BEING SCRUBBED FROM THE NET - Pin, Archive, Share this article quickly!

    = Microsoft Kinect Spy System

    THIS ARTICLE IS BEING SCRUBBED FROM THE NET. THE SITE IT WAS ORIGINALLY POSTED TO YANKED THE PLUG ON THEIR WHOLE SITE!!! COPY/PASTE THIS ARTICLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO DISCUSSION FORUMS, BLOGS, FACEBOOK, TWITTER, AND ARCHIVE AND MIRROR THIS DOCUMENT SO IT DOES NOT VANISH FOREVER!

    "So you just got the Kinect/Xbox360 gaming system and you're having fun, hanging out in your underwear, plopped down in your favorite lounge chair, and playing games with your buddies. Yeah, it's great to have a microphone and camera in your game system so you can "Kinect" to your pals while you play, but did you read that Terms of Service Agreement that came with your Kinect thingy? No? Here, let me point out an important part of that service agreement.

    If you accept the agreement, you "expressly authorize and consent to us accessing or disclosing information about you, including the content of your communications, in order to: (a) comply with the law or respond to lawful requests or legal process; (b) protect the rights or property of Microsoft, our partners, or our customers, including the enforcement of our agreements or policies governing your use of the Service; or © act on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers, or the public."

    Did you catch that? Here, let me print the important part in really big letters.

    "If you accept the agreement, you expressly authorize and consent to us accessing or disclosing information about you, including the content of your communications⦠on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers, or the public."

    OK, is that clear enough for ya? When you use the Kinect system, you agree to allow Microsoft (and any branch of law enforcement or government they care to share information with) to use your Kinect system to spy on you. Maybe run that facial recognition software to check you out, listen to your conversations, and keep track of who you are communicating with.

    I know this is probably old news to some, but I thought I would mention it because it pertains to almost all of these home game systems that are interactive. You have to remember, the camera and microphone contained in your game system have the ability to be hacked by anyone the game company gives that ability to, and that includes government snoops and law enforcement agents.

    Hey, it's MICROSOFT. What did you expect?

    And the same concerns apply to all interactive game systems. Just something to think about if you're having a "Naked Wii party" or doing something illegal while you're gaming with your buddies. Or maybe you say something suspicious and it triggers the DHS software to start tracking your every word. Hey, this is not paranoia. It's spelled out for you, right there in that Service Agreement. Read it! Here's one more part of the agreement you should be aware of.

    "You should not expect any level of privacy concerning your use of the live communication features (for example, voice chat, video and communications in live-hosted gameplay sessions) offered through the Service."

    Did you catch it that time? YOU SHOULD NOT EXPECT ANY LEVEL OF PRIVACY concerning your voice chat and video features on your Kinect box."

    ###

    = "Listen up, you ignorant sheep. Your government is spending more money than ever to spy on its own citizens. That's YOU, my friend. And if you're one of these people who say, "Well I ain't ever done nothing wrong so why should I worry about it?' - you are dead wrong. Our civil liberties are being taken away faster than you can spit. The NSA is working away on its new "First Intelligence Community Comprehensive National Cyber-security Initiative Data Center' to keep track of every last one of us. This thing will be

  • by captain_dope_pants ( 842414 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @06:26AM (#43377409)
    Imagine a beowulf cluster of these robot overlords running linux, in Russia, throwing chairs !
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @06:34AM (#43377431)

    It has a stigma! [slashdot.org]

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @06:38AM (#43377443)

    Once Skynet takes control of that, we're so fucked.

  • by xarragon ( 944172 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @06:59AM (#43377511)
    This sort of technology has been available for some time, I remember seeing this six-legged forest machine complete with crane and cutting machinery back in the early 2000s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYh54Qdh_5g [youtube.com] Apprently it was developed in Finland by John Deree, and was only displayed rwecently (2012 press release): http://www.deere.com/wps/dcom/en_US/corporate/our_company/news_and_media/press_releases/2012/forestry/2012apr10_walking_harvester.page [deere.com]
    • by umghhh ( 965931 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @07:44AM (#43377659)
      but this timberjack is doing stuff which diminishes the fun factor.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @08:48AM (#43377891)

      In 2003 I was working on an automation project and the general consensus amongst the team members was that PC104 was too crappy and obsolete to consider for any new development.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @08:59AM (#43377937)

      It was not developed by John Deere, they just acquired the tech *after* it was developed.
      You Americans like to buy or rewrite history when you can't claim you invented cool stuff, just like with the recent Wired article that all but marginalizes Nokia's fundamental contribution to the mobile phone industry.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 07, 2013 @09:26AM (#43383707)

        Only one of two in existence, Deere's walking harvester on display at the John Deere Pavilion in Moline was designed by Deere's research and development unit in Finland in the 1990s, but it "was ahead of its time" and never reached the production phase. Manufactured in 1994, this walking harvester machine was the first to be equipped with a harvesting head and accumulated approximately 2000 working hours during testing.

  • by Seumas ( 6865 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @07:04AM (#43377529)

    Am I the only one who read the headline three times, before realizing it said "LINUX brain" instead of "HUMAN brain"?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @07:10AM (#43377561)

    All the people can see is : this "linux brain" is a bit slow...

  • by loufoque ( 1400831 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @08:24AM (#43377811)

    What is the point of this?
    It's slow and probably consumes a lot of fuel.

    I'd rather take a car or a motorcycle.

  • PC/104? ugh. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by gmarsh ( 839707 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @09:12AM (#43377983)

    From personal experience.

    Never put a PC/104 setup in a system that's going to be subjected to vibration, you'll cause the connector to wear out and eventually one of the important pins on the PC/104 connector will fail. And when it does, the ISA bus presented on the PC104 connector doesn't have any error detection/correction either, meaning your system may not fail gracefully.

    Not something you want in a large robot.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @09:50AM (#43378187)

      issue that you can easily solve ...

    • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @05:26PM (#43380857)

      That is why you do a good job of shock mounting any electronics in the frame. Also if you want better speed you will have to add air rams to the leg movements to increase walking speed. But don't expect it to win races with mopeds. At our society’s current level of technology and R&D spending we can only do so much.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 07, 2013 @05:41AM (#43383193)

      No, we don't have autonomous robots yet. But I fear that when we do, we will more likely have self-replicating human killing machines than robots obeying Asmiov's robotic laws. Why? 1. If you propose them seriously, you looking like a fool, because, 2, people won't do that, so therefore #1 is the action of a fool, except 3., people will build robots for the express purposed to kill the enemy or evil doers, because they consider it moral and reasonable. Heck, the US is using drones around the world controlled from bases in the American Southwest. As time goes on more and more of the functions humans control will be taken over by automation.

      At least my estimate lifespan is only another 20 years or so...

    • by Animats ( 122034 ) on Sunday April 07, 2013 @02:53PM (#43385307) Homepage

      Never put a PC/104 setup in a system that's going to be subjected to vibration

      PC-104 is rather retro at this point, but there is something called a Can-Tainer [dpie.com] for using PC-104 in hostile environments. "Internally, each corner of the PC/104 stack is held in place by a rubber corner system ... Externally, the anodized aluminum enclosure mates with a thick rubber-mounting pad..."

      We tried one of those in 2003-2005 for our DARPA Grand Challenge vehicle. (Getting board stacks into the Can-Tainer is a huge pain.) Even then, PC-104 was retro. We ended up with Tri-M industrial Pentium 4 PCs, which turned out to have an overheating problem due to really lame case design. (The CPU fan was aimed at a solid metal case bottom.) Back then there were fewer rugged computer options. Today, that situation is much better. There are good low-cost "Car PC" devices suitable for the automotive environment. Mobile hard drives are smaller and more shock-resistant. So today, getting enough compute power onto your large robot isn't a problem.

      It's a good time to build robots. Many of the pieces that were hard to find or troublesome a decade ago are now mature products. Rugged computers, laser rangefinders, high precision GPS systems, attitude and heading reference systems, and servomotor controllers are all commercially available and not outrageously priced. A decade ago, you could get all of those things, but they were more expensive and didn't work as well.

  • by RevWaldo ( 1186281 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @09:18AM (#43378015)
    So nearly complete. So nearly perfect! If you only have a Linux brain.... [imgur.com]

    .
  • by CODiNE ( 27417 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @10:38AM (#43378413) Homepage

    // Design + Build = Inspire;

    I can see why they commented it out.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @10:45AM (#43378461)

    ,Mantis Toboggan."

  • by danlip ( 737336 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @10:54AM (#43378541)

    Slow as heck and can't actually climb anything (as far as I can tell from the video) which is the only real reason to have legs instead of wheels.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06, 2013 @11:23AM (#43378749)

    wild wild west cosplay

  • by Ostracus ( 1354233 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @01:17PM (#43379553) Journal

    Wonder if BEAM [beam-wiki.org] is being used behind the scenes?

  • by indy_Muad'Dib ( 869913 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @02:35PM (#43379973) Homepage
    didnt jamie manzel do this a few years ago? http://jamius.com/Robot/Robot.html [jamius.com]
  • by Ol Olsoc ( 1175323 ) on Saturday April 06, 2013 @07:36PM (#43381455)
    This is the year of Linux on..... ummm....the ...... Whatever the hell that thing is.

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