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Research Promises Drastically Increased LiOn Capacity 378

daem0n1x writes "Could this be the breakthrough we've all been expecting that will finally make the electric car a reality? Researchers of Northwestern University USA discovered a new way to build lithium-ion batteries that changes dramatically both the charge time and capacity [original paper, paywalled]. Guess what it involves? That's right, graphene."
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Research Promises Drastically Increased LiOn Capacity

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  • by Halo1 ( 136547 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @12:49PM (#38074702)

    Actually, if you read the university press release, you'll see the magical ingredient is silicon. Current lithium-ion batteries already contain graphene sheets. What they did was

    • sandwich silicon between the graphene sheets, because silicon can bind many more ions than carbon (the downside is that it fragments, and that's what they addressed with their sandwiching process) -> more capacity
    • make minuscule holes in the graphene sheets to offer shortcuts to ions traveling from one side of the sheet to the other side (-> faster charging)
  • by timmy.cl ( 1102617 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @01:06PM (#38074936)

    "graphene" is single-atom-thick carbon.

  • by DumbSwede ( 521261 ) <slashdotbin@hotmail.com> on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @01:07PM (#38074958) Homepage Journal
    Having read the article (*gasp*) as well as a few others it seems these batteries do NOT hold 10x more power. They degrade 10x slower on on drain/recharge cycles and can be charged 10x faster. BUT this is not the same as having 10x more POWER per cycle. Gonna have to wait some more before you get an cheap electric car that can go 500 miles before charging (though charging 10x faster is nice).
  • Re:Better Place (Score:2, Informative)

    by tepples ( 727027 ) <tepples@gmai l . com> on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @01:28PM (#38075202) Homepage Journal

    I'm pretty sure you can replace everything you've just typed there with respects to a battery and use the word petrol.

    Please see webheaded's comment [slashdot.org].

  • by Dr_Barnowl ( 709838 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @01:36PM (#38075332)

    They do have more capacity - this isn't the traditional carbon electrode, this is a graphene-stabilised silicon anode, and silicon holds more charge.

    They also have more power, as well as more capacity. If the internal resistance is low enough to charge it in 15 minutes, it's low enough to discharge it that fast as well.

    Alas, the missing bit is similar innovations in cathode technology.

  • by kjhambrick ( 111698 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @01:37PM (#38075356)

    Not to mention that Gasoline or Diesel contains ooo 45 MJ/KG while a LIon Battery stores ooo 1 MJ/KG ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Energy_density.svg [wikipedia.org]

    Seems we have a 'little' ways to go before LIon can replace good ole hydrocarbon fuels.

    -- kjh

  • by necro81 ( 917438 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @01:46PM (#38075456) Journal
    Although it is subtle, battery technology has improve energy density steadily over the years. For lithium-ion, the trend has been about 5-10% / year for over a decade now. The battery pack from my ten-year old laptop (yeah, it's sittin' in a box somewhere) has just over half the nominal capacity of a battery of similar volume today. It's not Moore's Law, but it is there.

    On the other hand, with the exponential increase in transistor count / computing power has some a corollary effect of decreasing energy needed to do that computation: Koomey's Law [wikipedia.org]. So if I take a look at the battery pack from my 5-y.o. flip phone and compare it to what's in an iPhone, they are roughly the same volume. But the newer battery has more capacity, and the newer phone does jumping jacks around my old feature phone, and has about the same amount of talk time / standby time, if not more.

    Call me an optimist, but I think that in this regard we're still coming out ahead.
  • by dokebi ( 624663 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @01:58PM (#38075612)

    The confusion is because the paper linked in the summary is incorrect.

    The Northwestern paper is titled "In-Plane Vacancy-Enabled High-Power Si–Graphene Composite Electrode for Lithium-Ion Batteries (pages 1079–1084)" and the summary linked paper is titled "In Situ Generation of Few-Layer Graphene Coatings on SnO2-SiC Core-Shell Nanoparticles for High-Performance Lithium-Ion Storage".

    Can people mod me up or have the summary corrected?

  • by dokebi ( 624663 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @02:01PM (#38075646)

    The Northwestern paper is titled "In-Plane Vacancy-Enabled High-Power Si–Graphene Composite Electrode for Lithium-Ion Batteries (pages 1079–1084)". The article linked in the summary is titled "In Situ Generation of Few-Layer Graphene Coatings on SnO2-SiC Core-Shell Nanoparticles for High-Performance Lithium-Ion Storage".

    Can people mod me up or have the summary corrected?

  • by DrgnDancer ( 137700 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @02:08PM (#38075736) Homepage

    Still, the main use case they are touting in the summary is cars. Faster charging, higher storage density batteries are a huge deal in that space. One of the big complaints with electric cars is that they take much longer to charge than a gas powered car takes to fill up, so faster charging is a big deal. More power density means either a) you can store the same amount of power in fewer batteries (thus theoretically reducing the weight and cost) or b) can get much farther on the same sized battery.

    Right now electric cars are right on the cusp of being really commercially viable. If they become a hair cheaper, a hair longer range, a hair quicker to charge... it could put them over the top. This has the potential to do all three, and if the research is accurate increase all of them by more than a hair.

    Plus, you know, I wouldn't complain if my iPhone went 3 days without a charge.

  • by jeffmeden ( 135043 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @02:32PM (#38076020) Homepage Journal

    Actually, if you read the university press release, you'll see the magical ingredient is silicon. Current lithium-ion batteries already contain graphene sheets. What they did was

    • sandwich silicon between the graphene sheets, because silicon can bind many more ions than carbon (the downside is that it fragments, and that's what they addressed with their sandwiching process) -> more capacity
    • make minuscule holes in the graphene sheets to offer shortcuts to ions traveling from one side of the sheet to the other side (-> faster charging)

    That's not quite the whole story: current lithium-ion battery designs have *graphite* in them, which is a bit disingenuous to describe merely as "many layers of graphene". The fact that in this design, they are in discrete multiple layers (with silicon and, as a result of this research, perforations) is what makes the difference. To my knowledge (correct me if I am wrong) no commercial battery has discrete graphene layers in it (graphene is a relatively new area of research, circa 2004, and conventional li-ion battery design has been relatively unchanged for about 20 years.)

  • Re:Better Place (Score:4, Informative)

    by scamper_22 ( 1073470 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @03:02PM (#38076426)

    yes, $50/ fillup. I'm Canadian and drive a small 4 cylinder. That's what it costs me to fill up.

    Try running a business... any business.

    But if it helps. Let's work through this example.
    Let's suppose you run the gas station and want to keep enough reserves to service 1000 fill-ups.

    Using gasoline (assuming $50/fill up), you need inventory worth 1000*50 = $50,000. Need more gas, you just have it delivered on demand. It's easy to manage supply and demand here given the low cost per fillup.

    Using battery exchange, you would need 1000 battery packs. That's an inventory of 1000 * $5000/battery pack... that's $5,000,000. Not to mention the huge space this would take to store the batteries. Not to mention the complexity of the batteries (failure rates...).

    Again, I'm not saying it's impossible. But it is significantly more difficult and requires significantly higher capital costs to have a battery exchange style system.

    It's not something I'd put my money into. I'd put my money on new innovation on battery technology, hybrids, rapid charging...

  • by cartman ( 18204 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @04:45PM (#38077808)

    Compare a $10k used car to $10k electric car: The cost of a decent LiFePO4 battery pack is $6k

    That seems like a problem in your argument. There is no electric car+battery combination which costs $16k. The figure you cite is less than half the actual retail cost of an electric car+battery. Even the prius plug-in, due next year, costs over $30k, and the battery pack only provides a 10 mile range.

    The cost of electricity to recharge the pack is ~$0.10

    Retail electricity for residential consumers in states which don't burn coal is about $0.14/KwH, not $0.10. If we burn coal to generate electricity, then we've negated any environmental benefit of electric cars, so we should use the $0.14/KwH price for electricity. Electricity from renewables would be at least 50% more expensive than even that.

    Let's try a comparison with these figures. The Nissan Leaf costs $35,000, and an approximately equivalent Nissan Versa Hatchback costs $15,000. If we drive the versa for 150,000 miles with $4/gal fuel at 35 mpg, we pay $17,142 for fuel. If we drive the Leaf for 150,000 mi (which is the rated life of the battery pack), the fuel (electricity) would cost $8,400 (leaf has a 24 KwH battery pack which costs $3.36 to recharge at $0.14/KwH and takes us 60 mi on average, for a per-mile charge of $0.056, *100,000 = $8,400).

    We must also include the cost of financing. Interest at 3% above inflation for 5 years would cost $2250 for the Versa and $5250 for the Leaf. Even if you pay using cash upfront, you are foregoing interest you could have earned by investing the same money, so it's an opportunity cost.

    There will also be different insurance costs, for insuring a $15,000 car against theft vs. a $35,000 car. But let's ignore that now.

    Of course the government will give you a $7,500 tax break right now if you buy an electric car, but will only do so for a small number of buyers until the incentive expires, so let's ignore that now because it's not generalizable.

    The total cost of the Versa for 150k mi is $34,392, and the total cost of the Leaf for the same distance is $48,650. It costs about 41% more to drive a similar electric car at present, not counting insurance or limited-time government incentives. It is not cost-competitive.

    It's possible that an electric car will become competitive if gasoline costs far more in the future and batteries cost less. If the Leaf costs $30k in the future and gasoline costs $7/gal (in 2011 dollars), then the Leaf would be approximately cost-competitive with a gasoline-powered car. This circumstance is definitely possible within the next 15 years.

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