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Bluetooth Ads Beamed from Billboards 231

dylanduck writes "Billboards in the UK have been using Bluetooth to beam media clips at passing cellular phones. The system has been dubbed Bluecasting and 17,000 people accepted the ads. When billboards know your name that's when to really worry."
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Bluetooth Ads Beamed from Billboards

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22, 2005 @06:47PM (#13375254)
    These filthy marketers are getting desperate.
  • Great... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by SuppleMonkey ( 846625 ) * on Monday August 22, 2005 @06:47PM (#13375256)
    As if there weren't enough distracted drivers on the road. Now if people aren't yapping on their cell phones they'll be reading the myriad advertisements being beamed to them.
  • by joeldg ( 518249 ) on Monday August 22, 2005 @06:50PM (#13375281) Homepage
    great..
    now we will have bluetooth spam everywhere we go..

    just what we need..

  • by theblueprint ( 749157 ) on Monday August 22, 2005 @06:50PM (#13375283)
    I'd be all for this, should the advertisers change it a little. If I could see a billboard, find the product interesting, then "ask" the billboard for more information, I'd probably use it.

    Otherwise, it's like a pop-up on your phone, asking if you'd like to see a pop-up ad.

  • Most people don't get too many bluetooth messages on their devices so when something like this happens they say "okay" to accept and see what the ad is all about. After a while people will get sick of it though, and fewer and fewer will accept them.

    So this is good advertising.... for now... =)
  • Spam (Score:2, Insightful)

    by CSHARP123 ( 904951 ) on Monday August 22, 2005 @07:05PM (#13375385)
    We are having enough with Email spams. Now they want you get Cell phone Spams. Really, when this gets worse, people will stop using technology altogether.
  • Thank God. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Saiyine ( 689367 ) on Monday August 22, 2005 @07:14PM (#13375451) Homepage

    Thank God, bluetooth can be disabled.

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22, 2005 @07:15PM (#13375455)
    Uhm, not entirely sure what the billboard is doing...but you don't have to be in "discoverable" mode for someone (or something) to "see" your signal and hack your phone.

    That's correct. And using something like hcitool you can not only get the Bluetooth MAC address (what more-persistent cookie could advertisters want for tracking their recipients) but also the make and model of the phone for specific targetting of malware. NOTE: Only the "stock" version of hcitool needs your phone to be in discoverable mode for this to work.

  • by utexaspunk ( 527541 ) on Monday August 22, 2005 @07:18PM (#13375479)
    the USPTO might just be dumb enough to give you a patent on that, too... :)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22, 2005 @07:27PM (#13375538)
    So tell me, why would I ever want to own a phone with Bluetooth if they're doing this? They still make non-bluetooth phones and wired headsets? Right?

    (I pick up 75 wireless access points on my 12 mile commute through what I thought was the countryside - so I can't imagine what this "bluecasting" will be like once it takes off in cities).

    I can almost see the next step being advertisers pressuring phone makers to require always-on phones with always-on bluetooth so that they can't be "denied" the chance to spam your phone. You won't be able to switch the phone off, will only ever be able to switch to "silent mode" for a couple of hours at a time (like for going to a movie theater), and it'll automatically accept absolutely anything sent to it (and it'll simply keep the last 128MB [or however much storage the device has] of messages received). Just walking through the mall your phone will pick up 40 different advertising messages before you get to the store you wanted to go to - and when out driving, billboards and other cars will all repeatedly spam you.

    And worst of all, they'll advertise this as being a "feature" of the phone ("get always-on bluecast so you're not left out! all the cool kids have it.. and you want to be cool.. don't you?") - and people will still buy it.
  • Re:Cool (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22, 2005 @07:37PM (#13375595)
    So, if accessing an available Wifi access point is illegal, per the recent cases in Florida and the UK, wouldn't accessing my phone also be illegal access of a computer (since a mobile phone is technically a computer these days), and wouldn't someone be able to sue these BlueSpammers for unauthorized access?
  • by darthlurker ( 663459 ) on Monday August 22, 2005 @07:39PM (#13375612)

    FTA - "The posters detected 87,000 Bluetooth phones over a two week period, of which about 17% were willing to download the clip, says Scott."

    First 17% is more like 14,790. I couldn't find a reference to the 17,000 number. (Perhaps its somewhere on the corporate web site link.) But even ignoring this point I'd still question the "willing" statement. Does that mean people intentionlly enabled access to their cell phones. Or is it more like 17% of blue tooth cell phonesare left unsecured by their owners?

    Sort of like claiming 40% of PCs [pcworld.com] are "willing" to be zombies for spam.

  • Re:crazy (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Johnboi Waltune ( 462501 ) on Monday August 22, 2005 @07:46PM (#13375654)
    You'd have to be crazy to accept a "blue-ad" or "blue-vert" or whatever the hell these are.

    Nah, just curious. The first time they do this, 17,000 people will accept the "blue-vert". Of those 17,000, the next time, only 7,000 people will accept. The third time, 700.

    Eventually the new technology will penetrate the common consciousness and people will just start ignoring it, since it is, after all, thoroughly useless and annoying. The only thing it has going for it is its novelty. Once that's dried up, "blue-vertising" will go away and die.

  • Over-marketing (Score:4, Insightful)

    by rbgemini ( 837601 ) on Monday August 22, 2005 @08:10PM (#13375767)
    Honestly.

    Is it possible to go anywhere or do anything these days without being advertised at? Seems you just can't get away from it anymore.

    In any case, if I'm standing on a train platform looking at a billboard, I can just read the damn billboard. What is the point of sending me a message to tell me about what's on the billboard?
  • by Jedi Alec ( 258881 ) on Monday August 22, 2005 @08:28PM (#13375851)
    So tell me, why would I ever want to own a phone with Bluetooth if they're doing this?

    Dunno. Why would you want an internet connection on your pc? Looks like phones are going the way of the average windows box, pretty soon 60% of its processing time will be spent on the firewall, antivirus and anti-spyware. Which leaves about 40% to animate that silly wallpaper. Every form of technology that allows communication will at one point or another be used for advertising. As long as advertising actually works, and it doesn't look like that's about to change anywhere soon, this is just a reality we're going to have to live with.
  • by grahamsz ( 150076 ) on Monday August 22, 2005 @09:06PM (#13376055) Homepage Journal
    find an old pda and have it 'bluecast' porn.

    Sit it next to a real coke bluecaster, and then half the time that people choose to "Accept connection from Coke?" they'll get the porn.

    Bluetooth doesn't have a whole lot of authentication other than the name that the other node chooses.

    It wont take many calls to a large companies complaint department about them dispatching porn before this whole dumb idea will go away.
  • Re:hmm (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Master Cougar ( 653783 ) on Monday August 22, 2005 @09:15PM (#13376104) Homepage
    You do realize that billboards are NOT only on highways but on city streets, right? Where pedestrians see them.
  • by Hooded One ( 684008 ) <hoodedone@gmai l . c om> on Monday August 22, 2005 @11:27PM (#13376755) Journal
    Not only that, the "pod" part is pretty inaccurate, since the iPod itself has nothing to do with the technology, it's just a way to play the downloaded audio.
  • Re:Great... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by darkonc ( 47285 ) <stephen_samuel AT bcgreen DOT com> on Monday August 22, 2005 @11:34PM (#13376784) Homepage Journal
    They're only broadcasting to people directly in front of the ad. This implies that they are using a directed antenna. That should increase the effective available range. If they wanna get real nasty, they can use a group of antennae each covering one part of the target area. One can hope that they don't get that nasty, but we're talking ad people.

    That reminds me: we're at the beginning of this 'new frontier'. Right now, they're getting about a 1 in 6 acceptance ratio -- Today, it's a novel idea. A few months, or years, down the road, they'll be seeing those numbers drop preciptiously. Then they'll start resorting to all sorts of tricks to get people to 'accept' their garbage, and we'll have to start writing software to filter out thes ads, then they'll come up with work-arounds, and then....

    Starting to sound like the spam wars??? There's a reason.

  • by Goth Biker Babe ( 311502 ) on Tuesday August 23, 2005 @02:37AM (#13377439) Homepage Journal
    Mod parent funny! Lovely reference. I was thinking the very same thing.

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