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Sharp's Double-View LCD TV 233

HaloPhreak writes "Sharp has released that they will soon release products that will "allow viewers sitting to the right and left of a screen to watch different channels." This is a new breakthrough in LCD technology my the industry-leading LCD manufacturer. In the article by Reuters, more than just television use is anticipated for this new technology. According to the article, laptops, ATM's, PDA's, cellphones, and even billboards you see in malls could use this technology."
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Sharp's Double-View LCD TV

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  • Sound? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by samtihen ( 798412 ) * on Thursday July 14, 2005 @04:56PM (#13066977) Homepage
    What about sound?
    • Re:Sound? (Score:5, Funny)

      by winkydink ( 650484 ) * <sv.dude@gmail.com> on Thursday July 14, 2005 @04:57PM (#13066984) Homepage Journal
      Rumor has it that it comes equipped with sound-producing devices.
    • Re:Sound? (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Shads ( 4567 )
      Headphones are the answer.

      Although, I don't know that it will be a popular solution for the most part in television setups.... and would it really be good in the long run anyways? At least when watching tv we have some chat time with the family... with head phones on that'll go away... and that doesnt seem like a good thing to me... people for the most part are isolated enough.
      • Re:Sound? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Edward Teach ( 11577 ) on Thursday July 14, 2005 @05:28PM (#13067296)
        Personally, I slap anyone who talks while I am trying to watch a movie.
      • Although, I don't know that it will be a popular solution for the most part in television setups

        Watching NBA with wireless headphones while my girlfriend watches Desperate Housewives with or without headphones would definitely be a cool way to go, if you only have one room.

        However, if you can afford this technology, I am guessing you can afford a place with more than one room, and since the TV is probably as much as 2 regular TVs, I am guessing you'd be better off going that route.

        Or are they going to t
    • Re:Sound? (Score:2, Informative)

      by bobcat7677 ( 561727 )
      Simple, install focused speakers in each viewing area. This outfit has some solutions and there are others: http://www.holosonics.com/ [holosonics.com]
    • Re:Sound? (Score:5, Funny)

      by Neil Blender ( 555885 ) <neilblender@gmail.com> on Thursday July 14, 2005 @05:02PM (#13067049)
      What about sound?

      Holy SHIT!!! We didn't think of that. Better come up with a solution quick. How about headphones? Yeah, that will work.

      Sincerely,
      Sharp R&D
      • Re:Sound? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14, 2005 @05:12PM (#13067141)
        How about headphones?

        So there's two sets of people, one on either side of the screen. All wearing headphones, seeing different things, hearing different things, and not speaking?

        If this sounds appealing to you, if this is something you think you would want, then seek help. I'm not trying to insult you and I'm not kidding. Seek help. Now.
        • Yeah, the whole idea does seem to be a l-i-t-t-l-e.......NUTS!
        • Re:Sound? (Score:3, Insightful)

          by GCP ( 122438 )
          All wearing headphones, seeing different things, hearing different things, and not speaking?

          If this sounds appealing to you...seek help.


          Clearly, you don't have children.
        • Re:Sound? (Score:2, Interesting)

          by stry_cat ( 558859 )
          Let me guess, you're one of those annoying people who walk into the TV room and start babbling when I'm trying to listen to my favorite show.

          You're the one who needs to seek help. Such rude behavior is usually indicative of a more serious problem.
    • From TFA... (Score:5, Informative)

      by Otto ( 17870 ) on Thursday July 14, 2005 @05:03PM (#13067070) Homepage Journal
      From TFA:

      Katayama acknowledged that sound would be an issue. He said directional speakers were one possibility in the future but earphones would be the most likely option at present.
      • The picture shows the lady holding up a mirror and you see a different channel in the reflection.

        What if the tv split the image for one channel so that if you use a mirror you see the entire channel on a screen twice its actual size.

        Only problem is that you couldn't look at it straight on. well, it's a better idea than what they're trying to sell it for.. watching two channels at once with ear phones wtf?
      • Think about this though. Sound is only an issue for the home user. Rhetorical question: how many home users do you think will be able to afford a TV with multi-angle views? More likely, this will be useful for larger, commercial settings. Think advertising, sports bars, etc. Sound will most likely not be an issue there.
    • As soon as you put on headphones, you are no longer doing something with other people; you may as well just have a handheld device. The only possible use I can think of for this is a replacement for split-screen in games.
      • I work over the corridor from these guys, and let me assure you that there are entire sectors of industry who are very interested in this technology. Very interested.

        It's not bullshit, and you'll be seeing them in the real world quite soon.

        Having seen the demonstrations and the low-down technical details of how they work, I'm pretty impressed by it -- in particular the solution for the problem of how to get touchscreen buttons to have one function for the left-hand person and another for the other.

        I'm

    • Re:Sound? (Score:4, Funny)

      by iminplaya ( 723125 ) on Thursday July 14, 2005 @05:22PM (#13067236) Journal
      Each viewer sits under a "cone of silence [cinerhama.com]". I'm sure they'll get the bugs worked in time.
    • Here you go [howstuffworks.com]
    • Re:Sound? (Score:3, Funny)

      by switcha ( 551514 )
      Initially, the signal that these TV's will require will only be broadcast for the Charlie Chaplin Channel.
    • Blue Tooth headphones or headsets (for higher quality). INterleaved with your cell phone you could have it drop out the show sound and automatically pause/DVR while you take a call and resume when end. Or any number of other possibilities. The directional speakers others have mentioned from Norris are allso very interesting.
  • Finally! (Score:4, Funny)

    by casings ( 257363 ) on Thursday July 14, 2005 @04:57PM (#13066987)
    Two different pornos at the same time.

    this is a great day for technology.
  • So while at work, I could sneak one of these babies in, and have something 'questionable' going on at the side view, and when they storm up, I'll just be working. It will freak them all out!
  • by soft_guy ( 534437 )
    I, for one, welcome our new dual channel television overlords!
  • by Anonymous Coward
    So you can be watching a solid, intelligent news program, while your friend can be watching some reactionary, right wing Nazi propaganda show. Wait, my TV already does that.
  • by bedroll ( 806612 ) on Thursday July 14, 2005 @04:58PM (#13067001) Journal
    I'm just posting to say that I'll soon be posting about this article
    • And now onto the commentary...

      Wow. That article has nothing to do with introduction. This is such a fun /. posting! Redundant wording about a multi-display technology linked to an article about cross-licensing. Pardon me while my head explodes.

      The only thing missing is a dupe!

  • by museumpeace ( 735109 ) on Thursday July 14, 2005 @04:58PM (#13067002) Journal
    I have had many a strained discussion of a TV show that I just watched with my wife...we obviously were watching two different shows on the same set.
  • With dueling Samauri swords at 2 feet. sigh
  • I could have sworn I had seen this before on slashdot, yet not on such a commercial level. If I recall correctly, some student posted about viewing different pictures at different angles, and even had set up a demo. He hadn't managed to perfect two streaming television channels, if I recall correctly. Hmm...can anyone find/remember this?
  • The article (Score:5, Informative)

    by onion2k ( 203094 ) on Thursday July 14, 2005 @04:59PM (#13067020) Homepage
    The actual article [reuters.com].
  • Stereoscopic TV? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I wonder if the two channels could be split so that one eye would see a different picture than the other eye. I guess you would have to have the TV aimed directly at you, but it still would be pretty cool and you wouldn't have to wear some geeky looking glasses/helmet.
  • The real question is: Can I use mirrors to watch two channels at once? :)
  • allow viewers sitting to the right and left of a screen to watch different channels.

    Sounds like they made the glassesless 3D laptop screen, noticed that from a distance it gave two separate 2D images, and decided to try marketing that, too.
  • Sharp did not disclose what products would use the new panel, but said it could eventually find uses in mobile phones, personal computers, car navigation systems and in various commercial applications.

    Personal computers, TVs, and various commercial applications (whatever those might be) seem to make sense for this technology but I'm at a loss for what mobile phones and car navigation systems need it for...

    Mobile phone screens are tiny, need to remain tiny, and shouldn't be attempting to distract drivers
    • I can actually see a very practical use for putting a screen like this in car.

      During the trip, the driver should only have access to nav displays, directions etc.
      At the same time, the passenger can be watching a movie or tv etc.

      When you stop the car, you can switch it back to single channel and both enjoy the movie.

      This is especially practical since the positions of the people in the car are quite fixed.

      A agree about mobile phones however, just give us a larger screen rather than fudging a use where non
    • I actually saw a prototype of this technology by Fujitsu last year, and they indeed had a map facing the driver and a movie facing the passenger, and it worked quite well.

      It was pretty seamless and when you were in the correct viewing position, you would have no idea that the person beside you saw something completely different.

  • er... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    This is a new breakthrough in LCD technology my the industry-leading LCD manufacturer
    er, maybe not such a breakthrough?... [slashdot.org]
  • The article doesn't say anything, but am I missing something, or is this an advertorial?

    My Sony TV does this already. I have a widescreen TV and I can watch 2 4:3 TV shows side by side. I forgot the exact measurements, but on my TV I can get something like 2 25" screens side by side.

    The thing that sucks is that the "active" screen has the sound. Before I got a DVR and a program guide, it would have been really cool to have the sound on the inactive screen so that I could flip between channels while loo
  • I see one problem with this: how is the audio transmitted to have each person listening to two different things?

    Damien
    • That is a very good question. My TV allows side-by-side display of two independent programmes, and you can select which of the two provides the sound (and output the other sound channel on the headphones), but still it is impractical to watch two programmes.
  • The only use I can foresee for this is when your two kids want to play Goldeneye -- or some other FPS game -- and each only wants their view.

    Watching two different programs sounds cute, until you start trying to divide up who gets the soundtrack.

  • old technology (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anubis333 ( 103791 )
    This is basically a lenticular lens with an LCD back, lenticular tech has been around for years, and even lenticular lenses with LCD backs have been around for years... nothing new to see here.. move along.
  • by JVert ( 578547 )
    The only possible benefit this could bring is console gaming for multiplayer on the same console. But its way to expensive for this and pointless for any other uses.
  • New breakthrough? (Score:3, Informative)

    by slashdot.org ( 321932 ) on Thursday July 14, 2005 @05:10PM (#13067125) Homepage Journal
    This is a new breakthrough in LCD technology

    Yeah, or is it a slightly re-engineered version of their 3D technology [sharp3d.com]

    I have one of those sitting here, and I can totally see how this 'new breakthrough' would be possible using the same technique, just different mechanical layout.

    FYI: the 3D monitor is not that great, you have to position your head in the _exact_ right position.
  • by RamboIII ( 899894 ) on Thursday July 14, 2005 @05:11PM (#13067135)
    I mean, now we have to invent the 2-man cubicle!
  • If this technology is refined, it might work to allow a person to see a different thing with each of his eyes. This is what makes a stereo screen work without goggles. Of course it would only work for 1 person with everyone else getting just one side of the picture, unless you can have bands of left vs right eye, so there were several angles at which one could position his head relative to the screen, and still see different images.

    Oh, and twice the porn. *yay*

  • Since the dawn of LCD technology, viewing angle has been intimately tied to contrast. I've always been surprised that people still sell "privacy filters" for laptop screens when all that's needed is a settings tweak to make the viewing angle very narrow.

    This promises to go one better... feed a "Nice try, asshole" message to potential shoulder surfers!
  • Pardon a dumb question, but what about people in the middle? Wouldn't it kind of suck? So, I have to sit either to the left, or the right, but not in the middle? Even if you tune both screens to the same channel, it has to be fuzzy in the middle to eliminate cross-over.

    Sounds fine for advertising, but sucky for home entertainment.

  • native stereo 3DTV (Score:2, Interesting)

    by oringo ( 848629 )
    I'm interested to see whether this technology can be tweaked to display slightly different images on narrow angles, which can trick our eyes to believe the flat images are 3-D.
  • by JoelMC ( 877117 )
    This would be great for video games. Imagine instead of split screen, having dual screen on the same TV. You'd no longer cheat and see the other person picking there plays, and two player Halo would be taken to a new level.

    I don't see it being that difficult for the console makers because the power in these things is already rediculous, so why not put dual component outputs one labeled left and the other right. That would also eliminate people's questions of "what about the sound."
  • For only the cost of two similar LCD monitors I can get one so I don't have to waste money on 2!

    Plus I don't have to deal with that annoying looking straight at the monitor addiction I've been unable to shake on my own..

  • At last, a working reason to be up late!

    "Uh, mom! I didnt see you there! Uh yes, I'm watching a documentary about cold fusion"

    Matt
  • So if you sit in the middle, do you see half of both?
  • Now I won't even have to alt-tab from Slashdot when my boss walks by.
  • As some have noted, TFA talks mostly about patents, so I'm just going on the idea of a split lcd.

    Obviously, console games would greatly benefit from this, as you could have multiplayers on one screen and one console.

    One other application might be stereo vision for goggles.

    A silly possibility is to prevent shoulder-surfing, and display fake screens to the sides of the laptop (looks like boring work) and the real picture to the center viewer (boobies).
  • by mcho ( 878145 ) on Thursday July 14, 2005 @05:47PM (#13067419) Homepage Journal
  • will one person have to wear the red glasses while the other wears the blue ones?
  • Now I don't have to have two TVs and headphones in the room. It'll be so much easier to have the experience of being alone and not sharing anything with the other person, even though they are right there. This is the next best thing since giving people the silent treatment.

    Ummm, since this is the internet, you may not have realized I was being SARCASTIC. If this technology was really valuable, people would already be doing some form of substitute, such as the scenario I described. Historicly, when peo

  • And this is more usefull than simply having two different television displays because... uh, why?
  • So that guy in the seat next to me won't have to crane his neck over to see what I'm doing anymore?

    Chip H.
  • Regular TV = $500

    Fancy-ass double-doodad TV = $3000

    Doh!

    Unless you live on a 22 foot boat of something.
  • A better solution... (Score:2, Informative)

    by zanidor ( 824097 )
    From http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/aptech_stor y.asp?category=1700&slug=Japan%20Double%20Display [nwsource.com]: "The 'two-way viewing-angle LCD,' announced by the Japanese consumer electronics maker Thursday, will go into mass production this month and will cost roughly twice as much as a standard display."

    Why not just buy two seperate displays? That way, if two people wanted to do different things, they could just put the displays in two different places...

    Not that I don't think the technology is reall
  • Obviously invented by someone who despised the Extreme Programming "Team Programming" concept...

    "I know, let's really fuck with the other member of my team by having him view different code than the stuff I'm editing!"

  • failed 3d monitor? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Khashishi ( 775369 )
    I wonder if this was a failed attempt at engineering a 3D TV.
  • Now if they can build a toilet like this, I would never have to interact with my spouse...oh, wait...I'm divorced. Three times. Something just wnet click.
  • Fox News (Score:3, Funny)

    by gosand ( 234100 ) on Thursday July 14, 2005 @06:44PM (#13067914)
    I wonder if Fox News will only play out of the far right side?
  • The link (now?) goes to an article entitled "UPDATE 1-Sharp to share PC LCD patents with AU Optronics" which is all about lawsuits between LCD makers. It says nothing about dual-screen anything.

    I remember when Zenith came out with the split/embedded screen TV. It sold as well as their TV with the built in color printer, ie. very poorly. Nobody bought them just for the capability. If they hadn't bundled them into their high end TVs, hardly anybody would have ever had it.

    But maybe the market has changed in
  • This technology would have GREAT potential in the PDA industry.

    You look at the PDA straight on, and it's your normal PDA. Games, daybook, accounting, whatever, it's the same.

    But a quick turn of the wrist and you instead see something you set as a 'permanent' screen. Perhaps the current day itinerary, or just your overall day planner. No more having to go to the main menu or remember quick buttons. Just turn the wrist.

    However, how they would work the touch screen would be interesting.

    Two possibilities I
  • Something very similar [slashdot.org] was posted to /. a while ago.
  • by JaF893 ( 745419 ) on Friday July 15, 2005 @04:49AM (#13070977) Journal
    Dual View Video [sharp.co.uk]
  • One of the things that I like about LCD tv's is that they just keep coming up with new technology. Sharp is also working on a glasses free 3-d LCD tv. How cool will that be? There is also an American startup working on 3-d LCD tv's altough I can't recall their name right now. Read about new LCD technology at http://www.lcd-tv-reviews.com/ [lcd-tv-reviews.com]

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