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Samsung Yepp YP-55V Review 268

Posted by timothy from the toss-in-ogg-fellas dept.
daanger0us writes "RAM based MP3 players are still pretty popular. As hard drive based MP3 players get larger storage capacity, the RAM based MP3 players have to add new features to keep themselves compelling to customers. The Samsung Yepp YP-55V is one of the RAM based MP3 players that's added some pretty cool features at a reasonable price. 256MB of RAM, FM Tuner, ability to record from a line-in, from the FM Tuner and voice recording, USB Drive capabilities, upgradeable firmware, weighing in at 2.2 ounces all for around $160. Designtechnica has a full review. How many people still consider a RAM based audio player when shopping?" Update: 09/03 22:11 GMT by T : That should be "MB," not "MG" as it originally read.
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  • CD based MP3 players (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Brahmastra ( 685988 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @05:54PM (#6863379)
    I still prefer CD based MP3 players. The media is cheap, and the the player is cheap.
    • I am always presented with the problem of organization with MP3 CDs. With so much on one disk, I don't know where to look for what I want, and I get an 'information overload feeling'.
      • Some people call them "folders" or "directories". My now-stolen Sony car mp3 player could read the dir names and let me browse based on them. Of course there was no hierarchy, so Rock/Dylan, would simply be Dylan.

      • Re:CD based MP3 players (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Chris Burke ( 6130 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @06:28PM (#6863682) Homepage
        That's why you get a CD mp3 player that supports "directories", a convenient method that allows a hierarchical organization of files. You know, like Artist/Album/track#-Name.mp3.

        This works great on my Rio Volt, which lets you easily move up and down through the directories, and even has neat things like "directory shuffle" or "Album shuffle" where it randomly selects a directory and plays the songs in order. The track#-name.mp3 keeps the name short so it mostly shows up on the small LCD display when scanning tracks quickly, and fixes problems I had with really long filenames.

        Anyway, organizing a CD shouldn't be any harder than organizing a lot of mp3s on your computer's hard disk.

    • true, and a cheap RAM based player compliments it nicely for the gym.
    • The small 8cm ones are also really handy. Store a bit less but really small and easy to carry

      Rus

  • Jogging (Score:5, Informative)

    by rf0 ( 159958 ) <rghf@fsck.me.uk> on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @05:55PM (#6863388) Homepage
    I still consider ram baed stuff for when I want something like that won't mind getting bounced around a bit. I can't help but think a hard disk based player (which is heavier) reacts well to being bounced up and down all its life...

    Also RAM based can have quicker access although there is the obvious loss of storage. Now if there was a CF based player...

    Rus

    • Re:Jogging (Score:4, Insightful)

      by El Pollo Loco ( 562236 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @05:59PM (#6863446)
      Size matters too. When I run, and when I lift, I don't even want something the size of a CD on my arm(forget the waist!). The solid state mp3 players are generally smaller. And won't skip. And won't jostle a hard drive. Even for just lifting, hard disks can take some abuse.

    • iPods don't (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Flamesplash ( 469287 )
      iPods don't seem to care about movement at all. I'm really amazed though. People jog with them.

    • Re:Jogging (Score:2, Informative)

      by kazrak ( 31860 )
      There are several CF-based players on the market. Even discounting the RCA Lyras with their RIAA-happifying encryption, there's the Nex [frontierlabs.com], the Diva [mydivaplayer.com], and the Moveman [mp3playerstore.com].

    • Re:Jogging (Score:2, Informative)

      by Dragoon412 ( 648209 )
      I agree. For working out, I don't want to be hauling around a comparitively large and heavy MP3 player.

      I have an older Samsung YP-33 that's RAM-based, and I adore it. It's very small, leight-weight, and came with a handful of accessories like a cradle/arm band, and short headphone wires. I'll admit, that at only 64MB (it's ~2 years old, now), I often wish I had more memory, but to be honest, I have over 300 CDs, and while I could easily have 20 gigs worth of MP3s, there are only a few hundred songs I actua

    • Re:Jogging (Score:5, Informative)

      by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @06:11PM (#6863557) Homepage Journal
      Now if there was a CF based player...

      Uhhh...

      1. Daisy Diva [digitalcam...s-vcrs.com]
      2. assorted I-Jam players [mp3newswire.net]
      3. i-Play Moveman [mp3newswire.net]
      4. Merit MP2000 [dev-digithings.com]
      5. Precom DC-530 [edgereview.com] (Okay so it's really a camera)
      6. Simply Sonic SMP-200D
      7. RCA Lyra [thetechnozone.com]

      Did you even try looking on compactflash.org?

      • Re:Jogging (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Kazymyr ( 190114 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @06:18PM (#6863606) Journal
        Except that you can't buy these anywhere. They were all either "concept" devices that never made it to mass production, or if they did there was a limited batch and then they were retired. So unless you head for eBay, you're stuck.

        • Re:Jogging (Score:3, Informative)

          by abischof ( 255 ) *
          The Nex IIe [frontierlabs.com] from Frontier Labs [frontierlabs.com] is a real prodcut, and it supports both CompactFlash Type I & II (such as IBM's Microdrive). Then again, it doesn't support Ogg (yet?), so that's why I'm not buying one ;).
          • Now this one looks good. Thank you! I knew about the original NexII from Victor, but the company seemed to have vanished from the face of the earth a while ago, and the Nex wasn't available anywhere anumore. Glad to see they resurfaced. I've spoken to people who have used the Nex, and they're absolutely delighted with it.
        • WTF are you talking about? You can buy the RCA Lyra at Target fer Bob's sake!
    • These use FLASH RAM. When you change the battery, nothing gets lost.....

    • My brother got one of these on my recommendation, and can't be happier. It's CF-based (though I'm not sure if it'll do Type II), small, and works really well. Not the absolute smallest thing on the planet, but he's pretty happy with it. And it was produced in pretty sizable quantities, and you can still get them. They've got an upgrade as well. $110 for a IIe sans media.

      Check it out [frontierlabs.com]

  • Don't knock it.... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JoeLinux ( 20366 ) <joelinux.gmail@com> on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @05:56PM (#6863393)
    Hard Drive-based technology is still rather klunky for the gym. Ultra-small Ram-based systems can provide enough music for one work-out.

    I know, a geek that goes to they gym. Amazing, huh? No, I don't have a girlfriend. I still don't think that those mythical girl-creatures exist. I think it's just a dirty trick those jocks play on us.

  • iPod Looms (Score:4, Interesting)

    by blackmonday ( 607916 ) * on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @05:56PM (#6863399) Homepage
    The iPod can be bought for 200 bucks refurbed (10 gig previous generation...10 GIG!) Why would I get this for 40 bucks less? Radio and Voice recording would be a welcome addition to future iPods though.

    I'm in the market right now, and the Rio SP250 wins over this one too. CD Based, larger, but with integrated FM and 700 megabyte CDR capacity.

    • iPod can be bought for 200 bucks refurbed (10 gig previous generation...10 GIG!) Why would I get this for 40 bucks less? Radio and Voice recording would be a welcome addition to future iPods though.
      Try some prolonged, vigorous, shaking activity using any HD-based audio handheld and then get back to me.
      • A good friend of mine skied bumps for 8 hours with his iPod with no problems. The extremely small hdd and good construction of the iPod means that it can withstand just about anything the wearer can. Hell Apple even teamed up with Burton to make the Amp jacket [apple.com] a skiing jacket with a pocket for the iPod and controlls built in.

    • Re:iPod Looms (Score:2, Insightful)

      by weg ( 196564 )
      There are several issues regarding the iPod. First, it has a built in battery, and therefore the iPod has sort of an expiration date. Second, this built in battery lasts only 8 hours (my iRiver FP380 lasts for over 20 hours). You can't record MP3s with your iPod (my FP380 can). And the iPods harddisk is more damageable than Flash RAM. Not to mention the size.. in my opinion the iPod is the most expensive hardisk I've ever seen.

  • How many people still consider a FLASH player? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by default luser ( 529332 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @05:57PM (#6863413) Journal
    I did, and I bought one.

    My Creative Labs MuVo is not only a good mp3/wma player, but was also one of the first to function as a convenient USB drive. Why the hell would I have paid $75 for a 128MB flash drive a year back when I could have both for $150?

    Obviously, this concept is catching on and prices are dropping, so anyone who is even considering USB drive who doesn't already own a portable music player should be interested.

  • A Mega-Gyte (Score:4, Funny)

    by MikeD83 ( 529104 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @05:58PM (#6863425)
    256 MG of RAM

    Yes, this product certainly does distinguish itself. I've never seen a product containing 256 Megagytes of memory!

    • Re:A Mega-Gyte (Score:3, Funny)

      by mph ( 7675 )
      I've never seen a product containing 256 Megagytes of memory!
      It was perfectly clear to me that this product produces a magnetic field of 256,000,000 gauss. I'd get one, but I wouldn't be able to keep my credit cards anywhere near it.

  • 256 MB is enough for anybody! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by mr.henry ( 618818 ) * on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @05:59PM (#6863440) Journal
    Seriously though, the iPod and new harddrive based players like the Toshiba Gigabeat [theregister.co.uk] are amazingly tiny and crush the RAM based players in GB/$ comparisons.

    For RAM based players too be tempting, they're going to have to get way cheaper and sexier. $160 for 256 MB is not hot at all.

  • I still have my RIO300 mp3 player, with a whopping 32MB internal and 32MB external memory... It kicks ass! I paid $300 for it in 98, and it still works great!

    It's light, relatively good sound quality, and outside the fact it doesn't have USB connectivity (that parallel port sucks!) it's one of the few portable electronics that I still use from the 90's.

    I don't want features, I want reliability!
    • my rio500 is still kickin it too, bought it in 2000 (64mb, never got around to getting more) and it fits enough music for a quick rollerskate spin around the neighbourhood(has no moving parts, uses regular aa battery, usb, 3rd party free support for almost any operating system outside of official drivers, even beos, better feel, more rigid, than the early yepps & etc). generally enough to not make me in the market of a portable audioplayer anytime soon. now a player that played also movies decently(scra
    • I have a Rio300SE. I found the sound quality to be better than most recent players. Replace the crappy headphones that it came with a better set. I find the Sony neodymiun headphones to be great. I had a set of streetstyle before an accident doing yard work broke them. I now have a set of MDR-q55. They sound about the same but not quite as comfortable if you wear glasses.

      If you set your Parallel port to ECP or EPP it should have the same bandwith as USB.

  • Meh (Score:2, Informative)

    by SargeZT ( 609463 )
    Adding bells and whistles to something dosen't make it better, only bulkier. I'll take my 64mb Rio500 over this new one any day. I mean, come on, who want's an FM Radio in there MP3 Player? Not me atleast. Same with a voice recorder. I have a real recorder, and I guarantee you the sound quality is considerable better. My 00000010 Cents.
    • people who listen to sports? or radio talk?
      sound quality at the gym really shouodn't be a primary concern. The background noise kills it, unless you get really nice headphones, but then you look like a dork.

  • Me! Me! (Score:2, Funny)

    by HungWeiLo ( 250320 )
    The Samsung Yepp YP-55V is one of the RAM based MP3 players that's added some pretty cool features at a reasonable price. 256 MG of RAM...How many people still consider a RAM based audio player when shopping?"

    You bet your ass someone will consider that for $160!

  • Minidisc is the way to go. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Jason1729 ( 561790 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @06:01PM (#6863466)
    At 256 meg, this mp3 player's capacity is about the same as a single minidisc, but it's not expandable. Minidiscs cost under $2 each, and the files can be re-arranged on them like with an mp3 player. The battery life on a minidisc player is better than the yepp player too which doesn't make sense since the yepp doesn't have to power a motor. A CD based mp3 player is much larger than a minidisc player (even if it's designed for the 8cm CDs), and the battery life is terrible.

    Jason
    ProfQuotes [profquotes.com]

    • I'll tell you what the problem is: (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @06:32PM (#6863720)
      Moving parts. That is one of the biggest problems with the MD player, i.e. it has way too many of them. My MD player broke over a simple mechanical defect, but one that was cost prohibitive to repair. RAM based players make this much more difficult to happen.

      Also I dunno about that capacity you quoted. I remember getting CD-comparable storage, with PERHAPS the option to lower quality for slightly more time (I really dont remember), but nowhere NEAR what you could put on 256MB.

      MDs were great when they were first available. But with RELIABLE mini-hd based units, and cheap often-expandable RAM based systems (flash cards anyone?), MDs are past their prime in terms of usefulness
    • Songs aren't necessarily rearranged. The TOC is just adjusted and a new play order is made. So if you have a really bad arrangement, it'll take more time to go from song to song.

  • Really? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by bshort404 ( 112024 )
    They still make these?

    I have to occasionally make a hard decision on what to include on my iPod. But usually it's between keeping every Magnetic Fields' song or switching to carrying every Beatles song. Ever.

    I get bored to easily to ever carry around a player that only has 256 megs.

  • Neuros (Score:2, Insightful)

    by cureless ( 35682 )
    Without RTFA I can say, why not the Neuros [neurosaudio.com]? Albeit a bit bigger you can swap in the hard drive module and voila. You also get the ability to transmit FM and song identification, not to mention support for Ogg and Linux via positron.
  • Man, I would NEVER consider anything BUT a ram-based player.. I have one of the older models of these (128M), and the thing fits on a keychain and feels weightless..

    Anything that plays off CDs, well, is bigger than a CD, and that's too big for me.

    • Anything that plays off CDs, well, is bigger than a CD, and that's too big for me.
      That's why I keep insisting they implement an MP3/CD player that's smaller than a CD! I want to set it on top of a CD, then watch it run around in circles as it reads the CD! There's no technical reason you couldn't make a CD player whose longest dimension was about equal to the radius of a CD! Of course, keeping the earphone cable from tangling might be a problem! It would probably require a bluetooth headset and InfraRed re

  • RAM? (Score:5, Informative)

    by interiot ( 50685 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @06:08PM (#6863528) Homepage
    Very few (if any) MP3 players store MP3's in RAM, as it requires constant battery power to keep data in memory.

    More likely, the submitter meant "flash memory" which is typically used to store mostly static data over long periods of time.

    I wouldn't nitpick, but he repeated the word "RAM" so many times that I was forced to post this.

    • Re:RAM? (Score:3, Informative)

      by madcow_ucsb ( 222054 )
      non-volatile and RAM are not mutually exclusive.

      No, it's not DRAM or SRAM, or any other volatile memory, but it's still a random-access memory, is it not?
    • What blows me away is the number of people on a geek/tech news site that don't even know the difference between RAM and ROM. Check out the responses to the parent for a good laugh.

      Yes kids, we all know that ROMs are random access as well. So's a hard drive, a CD-ROM, or for that matter, a book. The terminology has been around for decades to distinguish between the read-only kind and the read/write kind, and ever since EPROMs came out, which are read/write (in a sense), we generally use RAM to describe vol

  • No moving parts (Score:2, Insightful)

    by stratjakt ( 596332 )
    Anyone who seriously uses a walkman type of device can see this as the major selling point. I'm talking about joggers, cyclists, hell even people riding the subway.

    No moving parts = wont break or wear out (yeah they will but not on the scale that their mechanical cousins will).

    Now an FM tuner has always been, to me, one of those useless electronic things that gets integrated into everything because it's easy to do so. FM reception on old-school tape-based walkmans has always been terrible - unless you
    • I assume they are using a fractal antenna or something like it. These little miracles have enabled small devices to have amazing reception. For instance antennas have disapeared from about 2/3rds or new cellphones because a wip antenna can't compete with an antenna the size of the phone that is tuned to recieve the band(s) that the phone is supposed to operate on while rejecting most others.

    • They still break (Score:3, Informative)

      by WotanKhan ( 150429 )
      I've purchased about one flash mp3 player a year or so since the first Rio came out. Three rio's, the short-lived intel pocketconcert, and two Bantam BA-350's (great player). They tend to last me about a year to two years and then begin shorting out.

      I wind up disassembling them to figure out what went wrong when they start shorting out.. Its usually one of the following:
      -Moisture damage (I'm a heavy gym and running user, sweat drips down the headphone cord)
      -Breakage from repetitive tweaking of the he

  • How many people still consider a RAM based audio player when shopping?

    Well, I think a better question is how many people consider a hard drive based system when MP3 shopping? A big clunky iPOD might be okay if all you want is music during your commute. But I use my MP3 player in a variety of situations (jogging, at work, etc.), and prefer the small size, better battery life, and ruggedness of the solid state storage based approaches.

    You can get a pure Compact Flash based player like the NEX [frontierlabs.com] for aroun

    • Just how big and clunky do you think an iPod is? If you saw the first or second versions of the iPod, you should look again at the newest ones.. they are much smaller.

      My ipod is like, the size of a pack of colts. Slightly thinner, and slightly longer than a deck of playing cards... it fits in a shirt pocket just fine. It's not heavy, either.

      Now, I'm not saying it is as rugged or tiny as a solid state player, as I said.. but "big and clunky" is definately not a word I'd use to describe it.

      Let's face it t
    • Better battery life???? My series one iPod gets ~11 hours per charge. None of the flash based players even hold that much music!! For the same $200 you can get a 15GB iPod on ebay. Maybe once flash players come with a couple GB for under $200 I might no longer want a disk based player, but probably not. Its nice to rip a new cd when I purchase it and never have to think about it again, it's just there on my player.

  • All those features... (Score:5, Funny)

    by questamor ( 653018 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @06:11PM (#6863555)
    256 MG of RAM, FM Tuner, ability to record from a line-in, from the FM Tuner and voice recording, USB Drive capabilities, upgradeable firmware, weighing in at 2.2 ounces all for around $160

    All those features and 256 milligrams of RAM!

    and I thought my cigarettes with 8mg tar were strong.
  • If you have the money for a HD player but don't want one b/c you need a player for running, small pockets, etc. the Panasonic SV AV [panasonic.com] series ( $400) has some pretty nifty features such as a camdcorder, digital camera, 2" LCD, and an AV cradle for recording TV shows. Sony also has some cool multi-use devices but are quite a bit more expensive.

  • It is pretty sweet. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Sleeper ( 7713 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @06:17PM (#6863594)

    I know this one. I just bought it as a present for my girlfriend. It is pretty cool. And she likes it a lot.

    I was considering getting an iPod for her. But every time when I decide to deal with Apple I always come to painful realisation that I just hate their attitude. They have this dumbass business strategy that only they know what you really need and they determined to shove it down your throat. I don't want to troll on them. Apple has really cool products, they have good engineers and designers. But at the same time they always try to sell you the most expensive one. Here in Bay Area it is impossible to find 10 GB version of iPod. All BestBuys and Fried electronics have only 30 GB versions (for extra $200) and I don't have 30 GB of mp3s even on my home computer (which is also a home entertainment center). Come to think of it I don't even have that many CDs yet to rip to fill this much space.

    So I settled on Yepp. And I'm pretty happy. It is very sleek. Very good sound. You can actually change sound modes. Plus FM radio. Plus record your own stuff. 256 MB is almost enough for my gf. I guess when there will be version with more memory outhere. I'll get new one for her and take the old one.

    • Actually don't blame Apple for the stores in your area carrying the 30GB over the other versions. It is most likely the stores trying to force you to buy the high-end version because they make more money off of the sale.

      Go buy it from the Apple online store if you want the 10GB model.

    • Re:It is pretty sweet. (Score:4, Insightful)

      by gwernol ( 167574 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @06:50PM (#6863860)
      But every time when I decide to deal with Apple I always come to painful realisation that I just hate their attitude. They have this dumbass business strategy that only they know what you really need and they determined to shove it down your throat. I don't want to troll on them. Apple has really cool products, they have good engineers and designers. But at the same time they always try to sell you the most expensive one. Here in Bay Area it is impossible to find 10 GB version of iPod. All BestBuys and Fried electronics have only 30 GB versions (for extra $200)

      That's unfair. Its the retailers that decide which models to carry, not the manufacturer. I'd guess that the retailer margin is higher on the larger models, which is why Best Buy et al. don't stock the low end models. Don't blame Apple, blame the retailers.

      You could always order a 10GB model online [apple.com] if your local store doesn't stock them. I bought my wife an iPod at CompUSA in San Francisco- they stock all three models.
  • only has 32megs on board, and accepts 32 MB smart media cards. MIND YOU, those 32 MB cards are hard to find but when you do find them, they are 9 bucks a pop, new (amazon has 'em).
    After rediculous rebates I got it 3 years ago for $50. Its also really small, less than half the size of a pack of cigarettes. I've got 5 cards, so if you include the on board 32, that makes 192 MB of music.

    Is it worth it?
    Yes, but only because I super-compress my MP3's (60 kbps MONO) since I only listen to it in noisy environm
  • >From the article:

    Net Dimensions
    8.3"(W) x 8.3"(H) x 3.1"(D)

    Yow! I could put an entire general purpose computer in that space!
  • How many people still consider a RAM based audio player when shopping?"

    OK, I'm going to burn some of my karma here.

    How many of you are not in the slightest bit fooled into thinking this is a legitimate ad, posted probably by the same likes as the geniuses who did that Gateway adver..I mean, uh, story, a few weeks back?

  • There is a **big** difference.
  • I don't like the fact that there is no *.ogg support, but since the device is flashable, maybe the new firmware will add this (yeah right)-

    There are a few reasons I would still consider buying a RAM based player...

    *the size (smaller, lighter)
    *doesn't skip/take a beating while running (vs HD based players)
    *ability to act as portable drive (just handy)
    *cost (cheaper than the HD based players)

    Granted it is handy to have your entire collection with you (HD players)- but I generally use a portable device like
  • I have had a Nex II from Frontier Labs [frontierlabs.com] for the past 2+ years. It's a sweet device that stores music on Compact Flash cards.

    Their latest player is the Nex ia [frontierlabs.com]:
    Compact Flash Storage
    Plays MP3 and WMA
    FM Radio Player
    FM Radio & Voice Recording
    Can be used as USB Hard Drive
    And several other very nice things

    I really like my Nex II. If it broke tomorrow I'd get a Nex ia rather than an iPod. Honestly. It's smaller, lighter, holds as much music as I want, and is just as stylish (if not more so) than the iPod.

    Just
  • I use my MP3 player when mountain biking, and would imagine that a hard drive-based player would not be an option. Back when MP3 players didn't exist, I tried one of those ultra-shock resistant CD players with 20 seconds or so of memory (something like that) and it turned out pretty much worthless. Even my current RAM-based player, a Creative Nomad II MG, can't take some of the shocks I subject it to. It will sometimes (very infrequently, like once every few months) lock up as a result of a hard landing.
  • OK - since the topic is up I'll ask for recommendations:

    I'm looking for the cheapest CF-based mp3 player on the market.

    Small, light, long-life, all pluses. Don't need a fancy display, lotsa controls, or other snazzy features. Just something I can load an hour or two of music into for the train or the gym. The market seems going baroque in features and 'additionial value', how about just "plays mp3s - cheap, long, reliable"?

  • I picked up an MPIO FL-100 [mpio.com] for around $110 with FM and 128MB ram. An extra 256MB SD was $50 (Dell). Plus is has Linux support [sourceforge.net]. Not to mention that they actually keep improving their firmware. BTW, the FM receiver rocks for such a tiny device.

    You iPod lovers should take a look at the new HD-100 [mpio.com].


  • The lack of USB2.0 support would prevent me from buying this item, but I really like the record from tuner option. I listen to a lot of college radio and some of the music can be really hard to locate digital copies of, or the obscure band names can be difficult to remember. The ability to record on the fly to mp3 format would be awesome.
    I'd really like to see this in a mp3 CDRW player. Anyone know of such a beast?
  • Maybe it's me, but I wouldn't take an mp3 player with a hard drive jogging.

    You're not supposed to shake around a hard drive too much or else there will be a head crash on it. Ram based mp3 players do not have this problem, obviously.

  • Inaccuracy pissing me off (Score:3)

    by Soong ( 7225 ) on Thursday September 04, 2003 @01:27AM (#6866218) Homepage Journal
    The article submitter didn't even RTFA. The specs clearly state 256 MB FLASH.

    Or, the article submitter is too ignorant to know the difference between RAM and FLASH. Like those older newbies who ask "how much memory" does a computer have, and they mean disk space. I mean, yeah, disk, RAM, flash, cache, are all forms of "memory" if you mean generic computer storage, but that's just not how we talk about these things.

    The Slashdot maintainer who let this drivel through should be modded down. Damnit, I have mod points. How can I mod the story down?!?

    </rant>

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