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Lisa Su Says Radeon RX 9000 Series Is AMD's Most Successful GPU Launch Ever (techspot.com) 32

Posted by BeauHD from the record-breaking dept.
"In a conversation with Tony Yu from Asus China, AMD CEO Lisa Su shared that the Radeon RX 9000 series graphics cards have quickly become a huge hit, breaking records as AMD's top-selling GPUs within just a week of release," writes Slashdot reader jjslash. TechSpot reports: AMD CEO Lisa Su has confirmed that the company's new Radeon RX 9000 graphics cards have been a massive success, selling 10 times more units than their predecessors in just one week on the market. Su also stated that more RDNA 4 cards are on the way, but did not confirm whether the lineup will include the rumored Radeon RX 9060. When asked about the limited availability of the new cards, Su said that AMD is ramping up production to ensure greater supply at retailers worldwide. She also expressed hope that increased availability would help stabilize pricing by discouraging scalping and price gouging.
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  • Not surprising (Score:4, Insightful)

    by alvinrod ( 889928 ) on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @05:49PM (#65259101)
    NVidia is barely shipping cards it seems and the stock of previous generation cards has been chewed through already. I think there's so much demand right now that AMD could have doubled their initial shipments and they still would have sold every single one and people would still be able to scalp cards on eBay. RDNA 4 is certainly a great architecture based on the reviews I've looked at, but anyone with cards could sell them in this market, even at the increased prices that are being asked.

    • Re: Not surprising (Score:2, Insightful)

      by drinkypoo ( 153816 )

      NVidia is also falling on their ass with every kind of problem imaginable. Bad drivers, bad firmware, bad connector design (the connector is not as bad as the way the cards draw almost all power over only two wires, as shown by multiple thermal camera videos) and even bad silicon with defective functional units. Add to that the exorbitant pricing and you have a recipe for failure before you even get to their pathetic volume.

      • Re: Not surprising (Score:4, Informative)

        by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @06:57PM (#65259251)

        the connector is not as bad as the way the cards draw almost all power over only two wires, as shown by multiple thermal camera videos

        Please re-watch the videos or find videos which explain it better since you didn't understand what was going on. No the card doesn't draw power over only two wires. The card draws equal power from all wires at once. Plug your connector in perfect the first time and every pin makes connection and you'll get equal power draw over all the wires. Any pin in the connector that isn't perfectly connected will cause a higher resistance and thus power will preferentially flow to just some wires. The card isn't doing anything, and that's the problem, previous cards drew specific current over each individual wire negating this problem.

        • Please re-watch the videos or find videos which explain it better since you didn't understand what was going on. No the card doesn't draw power over only two wires. The card draws equal power from all wires at once.

          You should have your eyes checked.

          Any pin in the connector that isn't perfectly connected will cause a higher resistance and thus power will preferentially flow to just some wires.

          The connector is clearly connected in the relevant videos.

          Sorry comrade, but I'm not going to ignore the essential evidence of my eyes and ears.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by Kokuyo ( 549451 )

            Your parent is correct. In the founders edition, positive and negative leads all connect to one bus bar. It literally, physically CANNOT send all power over two wires, unless the leads aren't plugged in properly.

            • Then we come back to the connector being shit, because the connectors are well seated in these videos, and I have ranted about the connector before. After the first time I repinned a Mini-Fit Jr. I knew they were trash.

              • Then we come back to the connector being shit

                The connector isn't shit, it's just a connector, part of a series used by countless products in countless industries without issue. The problem here is the application doesn't leave sufficient safety margin, and ... again, the GPU draws power across the entire connector equally. THAT'S A PROBLEM. The reasons why 20-series and 30-series stopped catching fire (after the connector was modified to prevent not seating correctly) is that each regulator phase draws power across each wire individually. They are not

                • You know nothing, clearly, and are amazingly resistant to the concept of learning something new.

                  Says the guy who runs away any time he's confronted with a fact he doesn't like.

          • You should have your eyes checked.

            Why? I just described exactly what is happening in the videos which causes some of the wires to heat up. Please let me help you, what part of my post did you not understand?

            We can start with the basics of ohms law as to why current flows preferentially if it is equally drawn across different resistances if you want. I'm happy to teach you, just be willing and turn of your usual stubborn arsehole attitude long enough to learn something.

            The connector is clearly connected in the relevant videos.

            Indeed it is and I never said it wasn't, read what you quoted me as sayin

      • Could you elaborate about the "bad drivers" part?

        The #1 reason I've always bought NVidia is because their drivers have been bombproof. Performance and price matters little to me, as long as everything works. I've had so many issues with ATI/AMD and Intel cards over the last 25 years I avoid them all like the plague.

        I'm planning to finally make the leap to Linux, so if there's issues with the latest NVidia drivers, I may give AMD another chance.

        • Could you elaborate about the "bad drivers" part?

          They had black screen issues with 50xx cards and had to release a new driver to fix it. There was also a related firmware issue with some of them.

          More generally, while CUDA is still great and works great, NVidia drivers have actually gone downhill in quality IME. The Windows driver is bad, the Linux driver is worse. Basic features like restoring graphics memory after suspend don't work for example, if I turn that on then I can't in fact actually suspend. 30 bpp doesn't work right with X11, my display does i

          • Thanks for taking the time to give some info! I'll be using it as an art and video encoding workstation, so I won't need the AI or overclocked stuff. I'll keep using my older PC for Windows apps and games.

      • Re: Not surprising (Score:4, Informative)

        by tlhIngan ( 30335 ) <slashdot&worf,net> on Wednesday March 26, 2025 @05:00AM (#65259899)

        One needs to only look at their financial reports to see why. Gaming card sales account for a rounding error in their revenues. Cards sold for other purposes (like for AI), are where they're making the big bucks from.

        All of the issues they're having is basically because they've de-prioritized gaming since it produces so little for them. After all, they know that their top end cards are unmatched and there are people who would spend thousands of dollars for 0.1 extra FPS.

        Meanwhile the midrange cards they give to AMD. Sure they'll hand off some of the binned ones as well, basically cashing in on the name because fanboys will be fanboys.

        • There is no question about why they are operating in this way. AMD would no doubt do it too, if only they could. It's still irritating.

    • They did a lot more than double their initial shipments. AMD claims that demand is 10X previous launches yet there is still availability if you look hard or pay a premium. They didn't 10X their shipments like they could have, but it's certainly a lot more than 2X.

  • Until the prices of video cards become sane again (at or below MSRP) I'll be happy with purchasing used cards a few generations old. I'm just now contemplating my first used RTX purchase. It's easy to tear used cards down, clean them up, and add new thermal pads and heat sink compound.

    • Unfortunately, (heavily) used cards have often deteriorated and unfortunately, sometimes even rigorous testing can't catch that.

  • But one of the smaller system builders posted a picture to show the difference between their allotment of AMD cards and they're allotment of Nvidia cards. They had 30 or 40 of the AMD cards ready to go and two of the Nvidia cards.

    Never mind that The Nvidia cards are pretty tepid as far as upgrades go and never mind that AMD seems to have fixed their ray tracing performance and their image scaling performance.

    With a little bit of effort you can actually get an AMD card where as for Nvidia unless you

    • I got a 4060 Ti 16GB Windforce for $450 on a $50 off sale back when they came out, and you could get them for MSRP and people were laughing at them. Well, who's laughing now is me, because that's now a $800+ card. My PC has actually appreciated for the first time ever, and I owe it all to NVidia for making CUDA and then failing to produce any other affordable cards with a reasonable amount of VRAM for this decade.

      • A quick google search shows the 4060ti 16Gb selling for just under $500 new. I think you'd have trouble selling a used one for $800+.

  • Their competitors stopped making consumer cards for months and has released consumer cards with miserable value and with near zero availability at launch day for AMD.

    They also shipped cards to vendors for months before letting them sell, all the while Nvidia GPUs were going for 2-3x price on the aftermarket - absolutely everything 1k+ worth gaming on.

    Then they made up an MSRP below what they agreed with AIBs and had to offer a rebate to lower it to said MSRP after the cards were already made and on the boat

    • Cards are still grossly overpriced compared to pre-covid, let alone compared to when AMD bought ATI. AMD used to be the value competitor but now they don't even bother competing at the high end GPU market and offer no real discount on the "middle" end (which is now super expensive).

  • AMD has been colluding with NVDA for years so as not to step on their toes. They both seem to underproduce stock and sell for extremely bloated prices, and consumers fall for it and pay through the nose. ATI was a far better company before AMD bought them. We need a 3rd or even 4th competitor in the GPU space.

  • I've used AMD GPUs for nearly two decades. I've always found them reliable and their performance satisfactory. But I'm not only interested in gaming, which is the market their consumer cards obviously target. I'm more interested in content creation and generative AI. Too many things in those categories just work better on nVidia than on AMD if they even work at all. All the performance in the world can't truly make up for not being able to run CUDA exclusive applications.

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