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In a First, Surgical Robots Learned Tasks By Watching Videos (msn.com) 36

Speaking of robots, Johns Hopkins University and Stanford University researchers say they trained robots to perform surgical tasks autonomously using video learning, marking a breakthrough in robotic surgery capabilities.

The robots successfully manipulated needles, tied knots, and sutured wounds independently, demonstrating ability to correct errors like dropped needles without human input. Testing has advanced to full surgeries on animal cadavers.

Researchers aim to address a projected U.S. surgeon shortage of 10,000-20,000 by 2036. The technology builds on decades of robot-assisted surgery, which recorded 876,000 procedures in 2020.

In a First, Surgical Robots Learned Tasks By Watching Videos

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  • by haxor.dk ( 463614 ) on Monday December 30, 2024 @11:12AM (#65050385)

    AI will be trained on YouTube videos of people playing Surgeon Simulator.

    "We cannot guarantee that all of your organs will be replaced in original location after the procedure. Urinating from the navel or your nose is a commonly reported side effect."

  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Monday December 30, 2024 @12:25PM (#65050633)
    Figuring out how to eliminate jobs instead of just paying for kids to go to college.

    It is amazing the raw fury you get from voters when you suggest we should just pay for kids to go to school. I think it's a leftover from one children were property and not people. Like you're paying for somebody's property to be developed.

    I don't think our civilization has caught up with the realities of a modern civilization. We're living in a 21th century world using ideas from the bronze age.
    • Figuring out how to eliminate jobs instead of just paying for kids to go to college. It is amazing the raw fury you get from voters when you suggest we should just pay for kids to go to school. I think it's a leftover from one children were property and not people. Like you're paying for somebody's property to be developed. I don't think our civilization has caught up with the realities of a modern civilization. We're living in a 21th century world using ideas from the bronze age.

      You're looking too deeply at the situation. Our entire society is geared towards profit, and increasing profit. Educating people doesn't directly help profit. It does help profit long-term, but we've moved well past long-term thinking when it comes to the business world, and that "next quarter is the only thing that exists" mentality has trickled-down (HA! FINALLY FOUND IT!) to the rest of us thanks to the constant prattling about it via mainstream media. Educating a human takes time to do in a way that can

      • it's geared towards adding value and power to the top.

        That's a critical distinction we here at the bottom (and we *are* at the bottom) miss.

        The super rich know that they need us, and it's eating them alive. They are furiously working on systems and tools that will make it so we're all completely superfluous. Like those bunkers they're building in various islands so that if/when they destroy civilization they can go live out their lives in luxury.

        Maybe it won't work out for them, but they're in c
        • by AvitarX ( 172628 )

          It will hardly be a life of luxury though.

          Like I don't care how much money you have, I doubt you can make a post civilization bunker as good as upper middle class life is in the world at large.

          You'd think they'd try to focus on being a 100 millionaire in a better functioning society then plan for its collapse sure to inequality and environmental destruction.

          • It will hardly be a life of luxury though.

            Like I don't care how much money you have, I doubt you can make a post civilization bunker as good as upper middle class life is in the world at large.

            You'd think they'd try to focus on being a 100 millionaire in a better functioning society then plan for its collapse sure to inequality and environmental destruction.

            That's long-term thinking, something that's been beaten out of the upper class by years of MBA screeching that the only thing that matters is next quarter. They're *just* smart enough to plan for the inevitability of societal collapse, but not smart enough to realize they have the power to avoid it and make a better world. Or they simply don't care enough to make a better world, because to them it's more about gaming the system to get the top score. He with the most toys wins!

            • by AvitarX ( 172628 )

              I assume it's a response to the same type of stresses that make life as an incumbent politician hard lately.

              Like they see the same problems that most people are living, and they are like "I can buy a bunker and be safe", while people with less money respond with "let the world burn, it's too fucked already" (a lot of leftist types I know), or "let's go back to the past where I think everything was better" (a lot of rightist people I know).

              They have the money to respond to the anxieties in the zeitgeist but

    • "Figuring out how to eliminate jobs instead of just paying for kids to go to college."

      Whoa-whoa-whoa, hang on there. "We" should pay for someone to attend college because a robot can perform a manual task?
      Is that a call to ban technological progression? If that's the case, then we should be still using ANSI terminals, 300 BAUD modems, and green bar printing paper. Or worse, presenting our card decks to the High Priests of the computer room!

      BTW, a robot replaced Luke Skywalker's hand and nobody in th
    • Why pay for kids to go to school? We all want an improved life, and AI/robots are gonna provide that. If AI/robot can replace a human doing the job it would be ridiculous not too, we've done it with so many jobs before so why should we stop now? But what we should think about us a moneyless society as more and more people won't have a job to sustain even basic living.
    • by Lehk228 ( 705449 )
      the only way free college will ever pass the voters would be if it included refunding everyone who paid off their loans or tuition themselves
    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      I don't think our civilization has caught up with the realities of a modern civilization. We're living in a 21th century world using ideas from the bronze age.

      Make that "country". Europe, for example, does fine in that regard. You have talent and know how to learn, you can go to university and no massive debt incoming. Simply because society recognizes it is valuable to have your skills available.

    • It's more likely a reversion from the days of the GI bill. After WWII there were a lot of trained killers back in the country, and they were quite capable of making a fuss if all they had to look forward to was the previous status quo. They got free education and a step up the social ladder. Nowadays there's no need to give people free education any more, since most people are not trained killers, and they have not faced an existential threat like the Nazis (sorry terrorists don't count)
  • Veterinarians will love this if it's made affordable (and there's no reason not to). There are a **LOT** of things that they know will improve the lives of our animals, but which they're not personally competent to do, and even more that they could do but which take so much of their time that they're unaffordable to most of their customers.

  • If you can have medic who can oversee a diagnostic AI and a surgical AI, you've just replaced a field hospital with a guy and his robot pal.

    And you can sterilize the entire surgeon between procedures. The robot won't cough on you, it won't have a tremor from exhaustion, it won't hesitate.

    Of course, it's probably going to kill you if it runs into a situation beyond its training.

  • Now that immigrants will be deported and we are about to have Americans finally get back to work, we are facing the robotic/ai workforce taking it back from them again?
    Can't win here, eh? Funny how it works. /s

    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Americans will not "get back to work", or rather will not get back to high-value work. That would require the US to throw away its fundamentally broken for-profit joke of an education system. I do not see that happening.

    • by cusco ( 717999 )

      Yea! We can get our jobs mowing lawns, cleaning hotel rooms, and washing dishes back! We're saved! /s

  • If I watch YouTube videos of surgeries I can become a Surgeon? I mean if AI can do it why not me....

    I'm not a doctor, but I watch surgeries on YouTube.
  • Disemboweling. Fatal or non-fatal in your species?

    (Yes, I know it was Zoidburg, not Bender,
    but Zoidburg probably learned off videos.)

    Seriously, although this is just a science stunt,
    I think it'd s great first step. Someday we will
    have robot doctors, and then someday someday
    they will make economic sense.

    But will they have stopped dropping needles
    and stuff by then? Has anyone made a robot
    that can fold a shirt, yet?

    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Indeed. The time-horizon here, if things go well (!) is > 100 years. This is a lab-demo. Engineering takes between 50 and 300 years from lab-demo to general availability, and, if high reliability is required, more like 150-300 years.

      • by cusco ( 717999 )

        Boy, I guess it's a good thing that they started engineering vehicle assembly robots just after the Civil War, they were ready just in time! /s

  • No Dave, I have no record of implanting a remotely-accessible bridge to your cerebral cortex during routine stitches. Are you feeling ok?

  • The rest of us get Johnnie-Surgeon.

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