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California's Grid Survives Heat Wave Thanks to Massive Battery Storage (sacbee.com) 155

Longtime Slashdot reader Uncle_Meataxe shares a report from the Sacramento Bee: California's power grid handled a nearly three week long record-setting heat wave with few issues. The heat wave was the hottest 20-day period on record around Sacramento and set an all-time temperature record of 124 degrees in Palm Springs. Emergency alerts and calls for voluntary conservation were avoided this time around. Officials credit years of investment in renewable energy, especially battery storage that store solar power for use when the sun stops shining.

CAISO last issued calls for voluntary conservation two years ago, during a 2022 bout of extreme heat. Since then, roughly 11,600 megawatts of new renewable energy sources have come onto California's electricity grid. That includes 10,000 megawatts of battery power, enough to power 10 million homes for a few hours. California is now home to the most grid batteries in the world outside of China, [said Elliot Mainzer, president and CEO of California Independent System Operator (CAISO)].

"Batteries performed very well in this event, they were charged and ready at the right times for optimization on the grid," he added. "That made a big, big difference." [...] Apart from battery storage, Mainzer also credited that success to less extreme temperatures in Southern California as well as noticeable slightly lower electricity consumption in the peak demand hours, from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m.

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California's Grid Survives Heat Wave Thanks to Massive Battery Storage

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  • fine for statists (Score:4, Insightful)

    by retchdog ( 1319261 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @08:56PM (#64634067) Journal

    ... but Texas has freedom!

  • roughly 11,600 megawatts of new renewable energy sources have come onto California's electricity grid. That includes 10,000 megawatts of battery power

    The units in this article are hurting my head.

    • Apparently their brownouts were more a problem of surging peak power (MW), rather than having enough energy (MWh) over some longer period like a day or a week.
    • Well, at least megawatt is actually a measurement of power.

      I see it mixed up with energy instead all the time.

    • by necro81 ( 917438 )

      roughly 11,600 megawatts of new renewable energy sources have come onto California's electricity grid. That includes 10,000 megawatts of battery power

      The units in this article are hurting my head.

      This is, for better or worse, pretty typical when discussing grid-scale energy storage. It tends to get reported using units of power, because grid operators care more about how much power a facility can handle to balance out supply and demand. Pumped hydro storage, for instance, tends to be limited by the po

  • by ksw_92 ( 5249207 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @09:46PM (#64634143)

    Yes, batteries, solar and wind are a big help during the day but if you look at the CAISO energy source graphs, you'll see they have to import about 5000MW over the night hours. Good news is that all the solar is resulting in a some export activity (ca. 2000MW during peak sunlight).

    Hilarity ensues when you look at the nuclear-powered generation...it's a flat line at 2000MW 24/7. We need a bit more of that, but it's not to be in this political environment.

    • California has been importing power for at least a decade, nothing new here.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      You can see where this going. As the amount of battery storage and solar increase, the need to import will decrease, and the need for nuclear will decrease as well. Presumably that nuclear plant is already having issues during the day when demand falls to zero due to the amount of solar already installed.

      Just wait until deep water wind turbines start appearing off California's coast.

      Do they have any flywheels yet? Ireland is installing them at the sites of old coal plants, to add some inertia to the grid.

  • by Eunomion ( 8640039 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @09:51PM (#64634149)
    Sometimes there is justice in the world. I recall a time when the Texas energy kleptocrats robbed California of billions (possibly trillions) in the early oughts.
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      Sometimes there is justice in the world.

      I'm sure they're blaming Biden and illegal immigrants for any and all issues...

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      I wonder if The 8 Bit Guy will do a video about it. He made one where he tested his lashed together solar power system to see if it could get through a day without the grid, and it managed it. It really was a bodge though, no proper battery, just portable units. His house looked pretty poorly insulated too.

      I hope things are okay for him, but seeing the numbers he was getting he could have gone so much further with a bit of forward planning.

  • So... is this the peak or sustained output?

    Or is it supposed to represent the amount of power stored somehow?

    If it's the amount of power stored, is it in minutes, hours, days?

    Why are articles like this always written by blithering idiots?

  • " 10,000 megawatts of battery power, enough to power 10 million homes for a few hours"

    Good thing Al Gore doesn't live in California then, he runs a 25 kW house.

  • Such conditions are also the times that solar power excels. Given enough daytime sunlight, the excess will sustain things until late in the evening or even overnight.
  • So of 11600 MW of newly installed renewables, 10000 or 86% is in those batteries. That's absurd.

    Why the F*** when a scientist says he's found a nearly complete bellusaurus skeleton, the reporter says: "A what-o-saurus??, let me get my pencil and write this down". But when it is about batteries and energy, they simply get it wrong. There is probably about 2000 MW, 10000 MWh of battery capacity installed.

  • by Bruce66423 ( 1678196 ) on Thursday July 18, 2024 @02:54AM (#64634501)

    Those, of course, provide what the people need but are conveniently invisible to bureaucrats who want to impose centralised solutions.

    Though to be fair the headline of this government link is:

    California Leads the Nation in Distributed Generation

    https://www.californiadgstats.... [ca.gov]

  • Overheated power lines expand and begin to sag, dipping lower and coming into contact with trees which causes shortouts and power failures, as well as wildfires. I think the people keeping the line corridors clear of such vegetation deserve a lot of the credit.
  • by Budenny ( 888916 ) on Thursday July 18, 2024 @03:44AM (#64634531)

    Hard to make any sense of this, the author doesn't seem to know the difference between MW and MWh. Thinks that batteries are a form of renewable energy capacity. Its impossible to tell from this whether in fact there is enough capacity to power 10 million homes for a few hours.

    Perhaps the giveaway is in the last line: "Mainzer also credited that success to less extreme temperatures in Southern California as well as noticeable slightly lower electricity consumption in the peak demand hours, from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m"

    So, it wasn't as hot in SC, and electricity consumption was lower than usual, and they got away with it. What role batteries played or could play is unknown.

  • 124F = 51.1C

    Would be great if /. editors added normal units as well.

    • Americans translate when it matters. They buy eight balls of cocaine - 3.5 grams or 1/8 of an ounce. They buy a pound of weed or a kilogram of harder drugs. They buy sheets of acid of relatively unknown potency, but generally something hovering around 80 micrograms.

      Sure you can dig up the sensationalism of a probe being smashed into a planet because of conversion problems, but for the most part Americans have their feet successfully planted in both worlds.

      I'm from a metric country but I know my height in i

    • In addition to normal units, also add molar units.

  • No newspaper will ever publish a story that says no corruption in the mayors office or the power grid is stable. So the only stories we see about problems. A corollary to this is that there is no danger of EV's overloading the power grid. What happens is that utility companies always need excuses to raise rates which, to be fair, is partially invested but also used for private jet travel to Paris for conferences on how to raise rates .
  • "noticeable slightly lower electricity consumption in the peak demand hours, from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m"
    Yeah, that's what happens when your electricity bill DOUBLES from the year before. Your aircon gets set to 82-85 because you can't afford anything lower.
    So they say "Oh, just build solar". Yeah, my condo HOA doesn't allow that.
    Screw California power generators.
    • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

      "noticeable slightly lower electricity consumption in the peak demand hours, from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m" Yeah, that's what happens when your electricity bill DOUBLES from the year before. Your aircon gets set to 82-85 because you can't afford anything lower. So they say "Oh, just build solar". Yeah, my condo HOA doesn't allow that. Screw California power generators.

      This. California energy costs are just plain outrageous. While my mom in Tennessee sees wholesale costs of 7 cents per kWh and retail average of ~13 cents, the residential average is an appalling 43 cents per kWh on average in PG&E territory. At one point, I actually calculated that I'd pay something like half as much for power if I bought a small natural gas generator and ran it on PG&E residential natural gas at market rates.

      But the actual wholesale costs in California are actually going *down*

  • by groobly ( 6155920 ) on Thursday July 18, 2024 @11:42AM (#64635321)

    "That includes 10,000 megawatts of battery power, enough to power 10 million homes for a few hours."

    Nope, that says nothing about how long it could run. However, grid-level battery storage is apparently typically designed to provide peak power for 4 hours.

  • CA hasn't hit the peaked summer yet!

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