Intel Axes 13th Gen Core i5, i7, i9 K-series CPUs 33
Tom's Hardware: Intel is discontinuing its boxed overclockable Core i5, i7, and i9 Raptor Lake CPUs. Every K-series chip in the lineup will be discontinued on May 24th, 2024, after which vendors will no longer be able to purchase them. Intel's product change document states that the last product discontinuance order date and non-cancelable/non-returnable cut-off points will start on May 24th, 2024, and final shipments will end on June 28th, 2024.
We don't expect 13th Gen K-series CPU supply to evaporate instantly but expect availability to gradually dissipate, along with price increases as vendors move to sell off all remaining overclockable Raptor Lake CPU inventory. That said, most 12th-Gen Alder Lake CPUs are still priced very competitively, even to this day, so we could potentially see the same behavior with these discontinued Raptor Lake CPUs (until stock inevitably runs out).
We don't expect 13th Gen K-series CPU supply to evaporate instantly but expect availability to gradually dissipate, along with price increases as vendors move to sell off all remaining overclockable Raptor Lake CPU inventory. That said, most 12th-Gen Alder Lake CPUs are still priced very competitively, even to this day, so we could potentially see the same behavior with these discontinued Raptor Lake CPUs (until stock inevitably runs out).
is this news? (Score:4, Informative)
I mean... I built my i9 13900K series PC for xmas 2022. The 14900K has been out for 6 months now... who would be surprised that the earlier chips are being discoed?
Listerine Gentle Gum Care floss (Score:2)
Is this the gaming PC version of you find a dental floss that you really like, but if you want to buy more, you have to pay 10X price on Ebay?
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I mean... we've been doing this for years. It's not our fault you weren't paying attention.
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It's a conversational construct that anticipates an unvoiced follow up to my initial question.
Me: Is this news?
Anticipated unvoiced question: What do you mean?
Me: I mean, is it news worthy, because of XYZ"
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Buggy slow AMD? No.
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As an owner of a 3900X, I have no meaningful or noticeable problems using my chip. It's been in service for five years.
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You need to learn how to build a computer because the processor is not causing all of those problems.
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The issues I've had with AMD systems generally are chipset/motherboard issues. But you can't have one without the other, so you're kind of stuck. If I could drop an AMD CPU onto an Intel motherboard like we could way back in the day, it would be a slam dunk - the better AMD CPU combined with the stability of Intel's platform. But since I can't do that, I guess it's buy Intel and just put up with their space heater CPUs.
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Yes, I got mine in July of 2019 as well. It's three months out from five years. Close enough.
Sounds more like a buggy mobo than the CPU unless you got a dud. Of course I have mine watercooled so that it can't throttle. With a few tweaks to the VRM behavior, I've got it boosting up over 4.3 ghz all-core in some applications.
Single core boost usually won't hit 4.6 ghz, but that's my fault for fiddling with llc settings.
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As an owner of a 3900X, I have no meaningful or noticeable problems using my chip. It's been in service for five years.
You not having a problem with your chip does not mean it isn't full of bugs. AMD and Intel post errata for their chip generations and within a generation they find literally triple digit bugs. Currently the Ryzen 3000 series has 76 identified bugs in its erratum, some fixed, some not.
The thing is, they very VERY rarely are actually related to something that would have a computational outcome (i.e. crash) in normal use. Sometimes they are just performance issues, your 3900X was subject to an errata that show
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Most errata are irrelevant to standard home users. Even enthusiasts will struggle to detect errors in the CPU's behavior. More serious are the flaws that can be detected by typical end users.
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If you have a buggy, slow AMD then you didn't build it right or install the OS proper.
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If you have a buggy, slow AMD then you didn't build it right or install the OS proper.
Actually bugs are common in all CPUs. A typical CPU family will upwards of 100 identified bugs published in continuously updated errata by Intel and AMD. In some cases they may even be slow. For example an errata issued for Ryzen 3000 identified issues with CPUs failing to boost correctly and corrected it in an AGESA package released to motherboard vendors.
Some other bugs are more comical. Such as AMD CPUs randomly sleeping a core forever in C6 state. ... After exactly 1044 days of uptime. Fix: Reboot.
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Buggy, yes. Every fucking 5500 I've gotten from AMD has been an unworkable piece of shit across 4 different motherboards, sets of RAM, and GPUs.
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Buggy, yes. Every fucking 5500 I've gotten from AMD has been an unworkable piece of shit across 4 different motherboards, sets of RAM, and GPUs.
If every one is an issue then I would start looking at what is common. Hint: You. One could also say the issue is AMD but since issues with 5500s are virtually non-existent online we're back to you.
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Good job assuming - go back to school because you don't know shit. I've been doing computer builds for over 3 decades.
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Tell me you don't work in semiconductors without telling me you don't work in semiconductors.
Protip: The Ryzen 5500 is a cut-down 5600G - tons of room for QA errors during that laser-locking process. First CPU had I/O problems. Second one had a faulty PCI Express bus. Third one was outright DOA (and these are ALL AMD RMAs.) So no, the problem isn't me, it's AMD. All the problems went away the second I tossed a 3600X into the socket. It's the CPU. It isn't me. But you say what you must to make yourself feel
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> Buggy slow AMD
You're holding it wrong
you did say the magic word (Score:2)
you did say the magic word
Phh (Score:2)
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Nothing wrong with a gen3 i7, but if you want to have a system running a modern nvme SSD, and video card etc you do actually need a newer motherboard with a current chipset (pci express version, m2 slots, current bluetooth revision, etc etc) and that isn't going to be compatible with your gen3 i7.
Now... does it need to be an i9? No. Certainly not. I could have spec'd an i5 and it would have been fine. But just like you are still running a gen3 i7 today, I fully expect this i9 based system to be perfectly s
Does anyone overclock anymore? Why? (Score:2)
I haven't felt the need to overclock my desktop CPU for maybe a decade now. Why do people even want to overclock anymore?
Push power consumption way up for a couple percent of performance gain and risk stability issues? Is that 2 FPS really doing anything for you?
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You may not have a use case for it, but you do touch on an interesting point. It's 2024. CPUs aren't fixed core devices running at a constant speed, and haven't been for a decade. These days CPUs will dynamically boost themselves to some threshold limit, thermal, power, etc. It's why changing cooling without touching a single other setting in your BIOS can have a material difference in benchmarks.
The benefits to overclocking these days are slim.
That said... I do have one machine with an unlocked processor h
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I don't overclock it.
I do like buying the K versions though; as they generally have all the features; are readily available when I'm doing builds, and the fact that intel is binning it as a K means that its not going to fall over if it gets a little warm on a workload.
Boxed vs. Tray (Score:4, Informative)
This only affects the boxed versions for now: https://www.intel.com/content/... [intel.com] Tray versions will still be available even after that date.
The 12th gen K-series tray versions have not yet been discontinued, so I doubt that the 13th gen will be discontinued before that. The 11th gen (different mainboard socket than 12/13/14th gen) has been discontinued though, see https://www.intel.com/content/... [intel.com]
That said, I can still find e.g. new 9th gen K-series CPUs on the market that have been discontinued quite a while back. And while Intel isn't producing them anymore, there's still enough stock available worldwide that if you really want one, you can get one. (Whether that's a good price-to-performance proposition nowadays is a different topic.)