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US To Allow South Korean, Taiwan Chip Makers To Keep Operations In China (msn.com) 27

According to the Wall Street Journal, the Biden administration is expected to allow leading semiconductor manufacturers from South Korea and Taiwan to continue and expand their chipmaking operations in China. From a report: Alan Estevez, undersecretary of commerce for industry and security, announced the decision at an industry gathering last week. The exemptions, initially granted for one year in October last year, were provided to several companies, including South Korea's Samsung Electronics and Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, who have invested billions in building plants in China.

The decision to extend the exemptions reflects the challenges faced by U.S. authorities in isolating China from high-tech goods in a highly integrated global industry. The U.S. has been trying to keep advanced chips out of Chinese hands by limiting exports not only from American manufacturers but also those made by allies. However, U.S. and foreign chip makers have resisted these efforts, and governments in Asia and Europe have also pushed back. The most vocal criticism has come from South Korea, whose largest export market is China.
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US To Allow South Korean, Taiwan Chip Makers To Keep Operations In China

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  • Yikes (Score:3, Insightful)

    by PubJeezy ( 10299395 ) on Monday June 12, 2023 @07:50PM (#63597158)
    The way we talk about corporations is completely backwards. It really doesn't make sense to say it's a South Korean company while using Chinese labor to make products out of African rare-earth metals for American markets. We need supply-chain-holism. Any person or place a supply chain touches, has a stake in and some amount of control over the rest of it. A trade war that can be defused by a Korean shell company sounds more like a marketing scam.
  • Hubris (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Shugart ( 598491 ) on Monday June 12, 2023 @07:53PM (#63597164)
    Sounds like hubris to me. "US will allow...". Really?
    • by Askmum ( 1038780 )
      Most likely the US will impose trade sactions against those countries that will not do their bidding. Won't take long before the Chinese market is bigger than the US market.
    • Sounds like hubris to me. "US will allow...". Really?

      One of the hardest realizations for me to accept over the past couple of decades is that, yes Virginia, the United States is an empire, like any other before it. We just usually have a velvet glove over the iron fist. But at the end of the day, we're Rome with microchips.

  • Gotta ensure those doors stay open.

  • by RightwingNutjob ( 1302813 ) on Monday June 12, 2023 @08:37PM (#63597228)

    We can't make stuff here because we make it over there. If we made it here, it wouldn't be there! Work would have to take place! Fingernails would vet dirt under them! Delusions would be deflated! No no no. Can't have that.

  • by Computershack ( 1143409 ) on Monday June 12, 2023 @08:38PM (#63597230)
    More like has no choice because they basically told the US to go swivel.
    • They want Koreans desperately in the CHIPS act (so far Koreans gave a middle finger, China is too important to accept arbitrary restrictions).
      That, and US fear that factories and equipment could get sold cheap to Chinese which would nullify some efforts.

  • by Eunomion ( 8640039 ) on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @12:24AM (#63597500)
    For one, it keeps the Chinese economy more tied to the outside world, which discourages bad decisions as long as there's rationality at play. And for another, as long as the math adds up to more profit than cost ending up on this side of the Pacific, what difference does it make? If it goes wrong, then we're in an even better position to address it than if we hadn't made the decision.
  • Wow... The US allows..... This is really getting ridiculous. The biggest bully in the world is not Russia or China, it's the US.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      Russia is still the biggest bully.
      America just threatens your economy. Russia will blow up your dams and threatens to nuke you every other week.
      Just lucky they can't do much to follow up their threats. Except for that whole world wide armageddon thing.
  • That ship sailed long ago.

    We need to keep their fishy chips out of our devices.
  • This is just another symptom of Biden incompetence. (I said incompetence, not incontinence, c'mon.)

    The way this should be handled is to put pressure on their govts, for example slowing down shipments of military materiel, with an explanation that they need to control their corporations. Slow pressure works better than bold bloviating.

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