Intel Announces Non-K 13th-Gen Core For Desktop: New 65 W and 35 W Processors (anandtech.com) 24
Intel has finally pulled the proverbial trigger on its non-K series SKUs, with sixteen new Raptor Lake-S series processors for desktops. AnandTech: Varied across a mixture of bare multiplier locked SKUs such as the Core i9-13900 and Core i7-13700 with a TDP of 65 W, Intel has also announced its T series models with a TDP of just 35 W for lower powered computing, including the Core i9-13900T. Furthermore, Intel has launched its Core i3 series family, offering decent performance levels, albeit with just performance (P) cores and no efficiency (E) cores, at a more affordable price starting from $109. Although the overclockable parts typically get consumers' attention when they launch, most of Intel's sales come through its regular non-K parts. Despite not being world record holders regarding performance or overclocking ability, the non-K series SKUs account for most system builders and OEM systems across the entry-level and mid-range offerings.
Intel's non-K launch offerings as part of its Raptor Lake-S architecture all come with a TDP of 65 W or lower, with variants representing the Core i9, Core i7, and Core i5; Intel has also now pulled the trigger on its 13th Gen Core i3 series. Intel has sixteen new desktop processors with varying performance, specification, and price levels, ranging from 24-core (8P+16E) to quad-core (4P+0E) options. Memory support on the Core i9 and Core i7 series includes both DDR5-5600 and DDR4-3200, while the new Core i5 and Core i3 series support DDR5-4800 and DDR4-3200 as per JEDEC specifications. There are three new Intel 13th Gen Core i9 series processors to select from, starting at $549 with the Core i9-13900. All Core i9 series non-K parts include 8P+16E cores for 32 threads, and 36 MB of Intel Smart L3 cache, with the Core i9-13900 ($549) and Core i9-13900F ($524) sharing the same 5.6 GHz turbo clock speed and a base frequency of 3.3 GHz on the performance (P) cores. Both models also include a base TDP of 65 W and a turbo TDP of 219 W, which is plenty of power budget for turbo clock speeds on both the P and E cores. The only caveat is that the Core i9-13900F doesn't include Intel's UHD 770 integrated graphics (32 EUs); consequently, it has a $25 lower MSRP.
The third of Intel's Core i9 non-K series chips is the Core i9-13900T, with the T signifying that it's a 35 W part. A lower power envelope means it sacrifices plenty of MHz to account for the drop in power. The Core i9-13900 has a P-core base frequency of 1.1 GHz, with a turbo clock speed of up to 5.3 GHz; the E-core specifications are similar, with a base frequency of 800 MHz and a turbo of 3.9 GHz. Even though the Core i9-13900T ($549) comes with a 35 W base TDP, it has a turbo TDP of 106 W. Moving onto the Core i5 family, Intel has three new Raptor Lake-S desktop processors, including two 65 W and one T series (35 W) part. All three include 30 MB of Intel The Core i7-13700 and Core i7-13700F both feature a P-core turbo clock speed of 5.2 GHz, while the restrictions in power mean that the P-core base frequency sits at just 2.1 GHz. For the efficiency (E) cores, this means that they have a base frequency of 1.5 GHz and a turbo clock speed of 4.1 GHz, while both conform to Intel's interpretation of 65 W; they both have a turbo TDP of 219 W. The Core i7-13700T, as per the specifications, has a base TDP of 35 W, but it has a turbo TDP of 106 W. As with other T-series family products, the lower TDP puts constraints on raw frequency, with a P-core base frequency of just 1.4 GHz, but the eight performance cores boost to 4.9 GHz, while the eight efficiency cores turbo up to 3.6 GHz. It shares the same level of 30 MB of L3 cache as the other Raptor Lake-S desktop Core i7 processors and includes Intel's UHD 770 integrated graphics chip.
Intel's non-K launch offerings as part of its Raptor Lake-S architecture all come with a TDP of 65 W or lower, with variants representing the Core i9, Core i7, and Core i5; Intel has also now pulled the trigger on its 13th Gen Core i3 series. Intel has sixteen new desktop processors with varying performance, specification, and price levels, ranging from 24-core (8P+16E) to quad-core (4P+0E) options. Memory support on the Core i9 and Core i7 series includes both DDR5-5600 and DDR4-3200, while the new Core i5 and Core i3 series support DDR5-4800 and DDR4-3200 as per JEDEC specifications. There are three new Intel 13th Gen Core i9 series processors to select from, starting at $549 with the Core i9-13900. All Core i9 series non-K parts include 8P+16E cores for 32 threads, and 36 MB of Intel Smart L3 cache, with the Core i9-13900 ($549) and Core i9-13900F ($524) sharing the same 5.6 GHz turbo clock speed and a base frequency of 3.3 GHz on the performance (P) cores. Both models also include a base TDP of 65 W and a turbo TDP of 219 W, which is plenty of power budget for turbo clock speeds on both the P and E cores. The only caveat is that the Core i9-13900F doesn't include Intel's UHD 770 integrated graphics (32 EUs); consequently, it has a $25 lower MSRP.
The third of Intel's Core i9 non-K series chips is the Core i9-13900T, with the T signifying that it's a 35 W part. A lower power envelope means it sacrifices plenty of MHz to account for the drop in power. The Core i9-13900 has a P-core base frequency of 1.1 GHz, with a turbo clock speed of up to 5.3 GHz; the E-core specifications are similar, with a base frequency of 800 MHz and a turbo of 3.9 GHz. Even though the Core i9-13900T ($549) comes with a 35 W base TDP, it has a turbo TDP of 106 W. Moving onto the Core i5 family, Intel has three new Raptor Lake-S desktop processors, including two 65 W and one T series (35 W) part. All three include 30 MB of Intel The Core i7-13700 and Core i7-13700F both feature a P-core turbo clock speed of 5.2 GHz, while the restrictions in power mean that the P-core base frequency sits at just 2.1 GHz. For the efficiency (E) cores, this means that they have a base frequency of 1.5 GHz and a turbo clock speed of 4.1 GHz, while both conform to Intel's interpretation of 65 W; they both have a turbo TDP of 219 W. The Core i7-13700T, as per the specifications, has a base TDP of 35 W, but it has a turbo TDP of 106 W. As with other T-series family products, the lower TDP puts constraints on raw frequency, with a P-core base frequency of just 1.4 GHz, but the eight performance cores boost to 4.9 GHz, while the eight efficiency cores turbo up to 3.6 GHz. It shares the same level of 30 MB of L3 cache as the other Raptor Lake-S desktop Core i7 processors and includes Intel's UHD 770 integrated graphics chip.
Still no ECC support (Score:3)
I wouldn't mind buying Intel, but their desktop processors still don't support ECC. I guess I'll stick with AMD.
Re: Still no ECC support (Score:2)
Me too (since ages ago)
Re:Still no ECC support (Score:5, Informative)
You'll be happy to know that the non-K models mentioned here carry ECC support (According to Intel)
https://ark.intel.com/content/... [intel.com]
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Of course, this still does not match AMD's ECC support...
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For sure but it's AMD pressure that likely got them off their ass about it.
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All DDR5 is ECC, but 13th gen Intel can still be used with either DDR4 or DDR5.
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Not quite. DDR5 does _internal_ ECC, which is different to ECC by the CPU in some regards and covers less problems.
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All DDR5 does ECC (where-as no DDR4 does- it's done with an extra chip).
Not all DDR5 DIMMs send the extra 4b/channel of ECC data to the CPU (as you mentioned).
All DDR5 does do on-die ECC comparison though (as you mentioned).
So the transmission channel to the CPU is still vulnerable in non-ECC DIMMs, but single-bit errors due to cosmic rays slamming into memory cells will be caught and fixed.
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I had thought that ECC on DDR4 was done via matching parity on the data DRAMs and generating the ECC data on-the-fly. It is actually done on each DRAM.
So ultimately, ECC DDR5 is the same in terms of protection of ECC DDR4, and non-ECC DDR5 is still ECC DRAMs, just not transmitted to the CPU, while ECC DDR5 does transmit the ECC channels to the CPU.
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Which basically means that if you have a bad memory cell, you will not notice with DDR5 non-ECC because AFAIK there is no way to get the ECC status data from the memory. This will certainly result in some vendors putting marginal memory in there. On the other hand, marginal memory plus ECC may still be better than good memory without ECC.
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How fast? (Score:5, Interesting)
How fast are they now and how fast will they be once we've patched all the security errors they introduced trying to flog their dead horse hard enough to win the benchmark race?
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I'm still wondering after reading it if "W" refers to Watts or not or is just the next letter in the marketing alphabet.
Built 2 gaming rigs with i3s (Score:2)
Built one for my son with 11th gen, and me with a 12th gen. Both systems under $800. Games we run are just 1080 and play nice and smooth when pared with a Radeon 6600 XT.
The i3 is one heck of a entry level processor. Can't complain, that's for sure.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i3-12100-12100f-review/3
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Which games? Are they the newer ones?
But... but... (Score:2)
...you need a 12 pound video card otherwise you're laughably inferior to everybody else!
My most commonly played game is Diablo III. If I can't run it at 450 fps on max, I would hide my face in shame.
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How much do video cards cost these days, $50/pound surely?
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If it's a single player game you can play it shamefully in private!
65 W and 35 W ?? (Score:4, Funny)
65 W and 35 W ??
There is obviously a typo in the coordinates of those processor so I will assume 65 N and 35 W which seems to be somewhere in Greenland...
Who cares. (Score:1)
Intel is soooo yesterday. Get some real hardware.
Intels Bottom of the Bin! (Score:1)
Microsoft pluton + Intel ME? (Score:1)
Do these require Microsoft pluton and Intel ME ?
If so, sorry I will pass, I will wait for affordable RISCV with performance similar to the Thinkpad W541 I have now. I just hope these will not have hardware "spyware".