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How to Defeat Putin and Save the Planet (nytimes.com) 219

This week the New York Times published an opinion piece by three-time Pulitzer Prize winner Thomas L. Friedman arguing that greener energy is the best response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Friedman starts by decrying America's "umpteenth confrontation with a petro-dictator whose viciousness and recklessness are possible only because of the oil wealth he extracts from the ground. "No matter how the war ends in Ukraine, it needs to end with America finally, formally, categorically and irreversibly ending its addiction to oil." Nothing has distorted our foreign policy, our commitments to human rights, our national security and, most of all, our environment than our oil addiction. Let this be the last war in which we and our allies fund both sides.... As long as we're addicted to oil, we are always going to be begging someone, usually a bad guy, to move the price up or down, because we alone are not masters of our own fate. This has got to stop...
Friedman notes that global oil prices collapsing between 1988 and 1992 "helped bankrupt the Soviet Union and hasten its collapse.... We can create the same effects today by overproducing renewables and overemphasizing energy efficiency."

Among his suggestions are requiring power companies to transition faster to renewable energy sources — as well as "eliminating the regulatory red tape around installing rooftop solar systems."

And he's also got a solution for the spike in fuel prices: If you want to lower gasoline prices today, the most surefire, climate-safe method would be to reduce the speed limit on highways to 60 miles per hour and ask every company in America that can do so to let its employees work at home and not commute every day. Those two things would immediately cut demand for gasoline and bring down the price.

Is that too much to ask to win the war against petro-dictators like Putin — a victory in which the byproduct is cleaner air, not burning tanks?

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  • by dmay34 ( 6770232 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @06:41AM (#62412738)

    ... but what about all the money rich people are making from oil?

    Have you thought about all the money?

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Nrrqshrr ( 1879148 )

      The irony of a man decrying a US war with another petro-dictator, when the US's economy is propped up entirely by the petro-dollar.

      • Propping up the dollar merely allows Americans to import cheap stuff from Asia. If the value of the dollar were to plummet relative to the yuan, factories in China would be decimated and American manufacturing would thrive with new internal demand and new export markets.

        Which is why China has pegged the value of the yuan to the dollar for nearly 30 years now.

    • We sure have thought about that here in Canada. There's a huge push to get everyone back to work in person whether it's better for the employer or not, and the reason is literally to force people to spend more on gas to help the economy and force people to send more on lunches in business areas to help the food service businesses.

      Our governments want to destroy the environment to make more profits for their buddies.
    • by shanen ( 462549 )

      Too bad you were too slow to FP. Though the spirit was willing, the joke was weak and slow?

  • by Babel-17 ( 1087541 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @06:55AM (#62412748)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

    The Friedman Unit, or simply Friedman,[1] is a tongue-in-cheek neologism. One Friedman Unit is equal to six months,[2] specifically the "next six months", a period repeatedly declared by New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman to be the most critical of the then-ongoing Iraq War[3] even though such pronouncements extended back over two and a half years.

  • by ThosLives ( 686517 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @06:55AM (#62412750) Journal

    Just enforce the ones we have today!

    People don't follow the existing speed limits, so what you're asking by saying "lower speed limits" is to simply increase enforcement.

    I mean if gas prices rising more than 30% per gallon isn't enough for people to merely drop from 80MPH to 70MPH, changing the number on the sign isn't going to do anything.

    • by Creepy ( 93888 )

      The only speeding ticket I ever got was an intentional speed trap with a limit designed to drop from 50MpH to 30MpH in a short period to collect money from speeders and give felony speeding tickets away. All connecting roads were 45MpH. The cop that pulled me over immediately turned around and pulled another person around for I assume, speeding. I paid a $165 fine to avoid felony charges. Hey, modern bribes, I guess.

    • by c ( 8461 ) <beauregardcp@gmail.com> on Sunday April 03, 2022 @08:07AM (#62412924)

      Where I live, they forced commercial trucks to be limited to 105km/h on the main highways. That knocked down average highways speeds by at least 20km/h practically overnight. The posted limit didn't change from 100km/h, but it's really the commercial truck speeds that set the overall pace. Most people seem okay with slowing down when they don't have to constantly deal with big rigs riding their ass.

    • by Ichijo ( 607641 )

      Yes, increasing enforcement is one way to lower traffic speeds.

      A cheaper way is to stop widening roads and let traffic congestion naturally increase until it starts to limit traffic speeds.

      A third way is to redesign the streets to make speeding more dangerous, like putting trees closer to roads the way they used to be before we cut them down so cars could go faster [youtu.be].

      • by q_e_t ( 5104099 )

        Yes, increasing enforcement is one way to lower traffic speeds.

        A cheaper way is to stop widening roads and let traffic congestion naturally increase until it starts to limit traffic speeds.

        That tends to result in stop-start traffic which is very bad for fuel efficiency of ICEV.

      • by g01d4 ( 888748 )
        You missed traffic light timing. Idling time at intersections with poor timing wastes large amounts of fuel. Timing lights so that you're not stopping at every block on major arteries when traveling at the posted speed limit should be common sense. Some progress is being made in this area with embedded road sensors to prevent feed street lights changing and interrupting flow, but more needs to be done.
        • by Ichijo ( 607641 )

          Timing lights so that you're not stopping at every block on major arteries when traveling at the posted speed limit should be common sense.

          The problem with coordinated traffic lights that is you can only coordinate them well in one direction, the direction that carries the most traffic. The other three directions are screwed.

          There's a light near me that's coordinated in a way that favors commuters and delays locals by up to 5 minutes instead of the normal 2 minutes. And because it helps add more cars to th

    • Just enforce the ones we have today!

      People don't follow the existing speed limits, so what you're asking by saying "lower speed limits" is to simply increase enforcement.

      And what cost would you like to put on the price of an "oops" with your very human foot on an accelerator after the automated cameras go up everywhere, with 30% of that revenue going to some corrupt person who sold that inhumane concept? Remember this was the same flavor of Greed that was caught dangerously shortening the length of yellow lights simply to catch more "red light" runners with cameras. Don't assume your request will be "fixed" with a human, and your car insurance rates better hope your foot

    • by RhettLivingston ( 544140 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @11:07AM (#62413246) Journal

      The solutions in this article, your post, and most of the responses to your post provide example after example of the decay of our culture. We do not need more law. We do not need more enforcement. In our hayday, a leader could call for our nation to make some sacrifice for the sake of freedom and right, and they would respond in terrifying unity. That seems to be gone and without it we can only resort to using sticks to beat our people into line. It has resorted in a mass of laws and percentage of incarcerated that top all the nations of the world while the problems the laws and incarceration are supposed to stop continue to spiral out of control.

      When I try to put my mind around what we've lost, I can come up with many symptoms, but not what it is. I think that is because it is a complex web of cultural mechanisms as opposed to a single or few things. Nobody had to have every one of the mechanisms within their own set of beliefs, but most had to have significant portions of them. They might include manners, shame, beliefs that beliefs matter enough to not always just agree to disagree, mostly united goals such as assuring that each generation has it better than the last, a belief in being part of something as or more important than ourselves, even seemingly unrelated things like just knowing how things, systems, etc. work well enough to detect the lies of salesmen of all types.

      We all seem to know it is gone. Nobody has suggested that we simply call for all who will listen to slow down and look for ways within their lives to move away from oil. It is not that we don't have the leader to do it. It is that the structures that should be there to guide people to respond in a cohesive fashion are gone.

  • Good. Now make these panels by the square kilometer, and plant them every bloody where you can. That is the level of fanaticism we need here. Also, create massive gravity storage so that we can enjoy that power during the day. Sadly our country has no mountains, so we will have to agree things with neighbors, but there are many opportunities.
    • Good. Now make these panels by the square kilometer, and plant them every bloody where you can. That is the level of fanaticism we need here. Also, create massive gravity storage so that we can enjoy that power during the day. Sadly our country has no mountains, so we will have to agree things with neighbors, but there are many opportunities.

      You don't need mountains...
      https://heindl-energy.com/ [heindl-energy.com]

      • A similar project is going on in Switzerland, by piling up large blocks of concrete with cranes when there is solar power in excess, and lowering them when power is needed. Turned out to be rubbish, though. The US has project ARES that drives heavy carts uphill on rail, and lowers them again, to store and release power. Somehow that seems to work.
  • by suss ( 158993 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @07:27AM (#62412824)

    From wikipedia: [wikipedia.org]

    In April 2018, Barrett Brown criticized Friedman for "his serial habit of giving the benefit of the doubt to whoever happens to hold power",such as Friedman's column supporting Vladimir Putin as a modernizing reformer, in which he urged Americans to "keep rootin' for Putin". Brown also used this phrase in the title of his 2014 book "Keep Rootin' for Putin: Establishment Pundits and the Twilight of American Competence"

    • I do remember he wished that the US could have the same dictatorial powers as the CCP, because it would help solve climate problems.

  • of course (Score:5, Insightful)

    by argStyopa ( 232550 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @07:31AM (#62412842) Journal

    Now, I'm not a "Pulitzer Prize winning economist" but I'm fairly sure there have been land hungry barbarous thugs since long before oil was a meaningful thing.
    I'm pretty certain that Stalin wasn't able to murder millions of his own people because of the tiny trickle of oil coming out of Baku in the 30s.

    Certainly, Putin has been enabled to prop up his kleptocracy with a shambles economy with the assistance of oil money, sure. But there are tinpot dictators all over the world, not just in petrostates.

    Norway has gobs of oil money and I don't see Sweden living in fear of a totalitarian king Olaf the eighth, either.

    There's clearly nothing intrinsically evil about oil money, while there have been terroristic Russian czars since forever. His causal chain sort of falls apart when one isn't trying to contrive some eco-justifying contortions.

    • Trump wanted to let Norwegians into the U.S.

      Think of Eric the Red. Think of Hagar the Horrible.

      Good thing that was stopped.

      • Trump wanted to let Norwegians into the U.S.

        Think of Eric the Red. Think of Hagar the Horrible.

        Good thing that was stopped.

        The Norwegians said no thank you because they didn't want to lower their standard of living.

    • >"Now, I'm not a "Pulitzer Prize winning economist"

      Neither is he. His degrees are in "Middle East Studies"

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by gtall ( 79522 )

      Wow, that is so insightful, i.e., there have been tyrants in the past so we might as well just ignore them and what funds the Great Putini's excesses. Now go explain your insight to the Ukrainian mum who just lost her entire family to Russia.

    • Re:of course (Score:4, Insightful)

      by quantaman ( 517394 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @09:51AM (#62413114)

      Now, I'm not a "Pulitzer Prize winning economist" but I'm fairly sure there have been land hungry barbarous thugs since long before oil was a meaningful thing.
      I'm pretty certain that Stalin wasn't able to murder millions of his own people because of the tiny trickle of oil coming out of Baku in the 30s.

      Certainly, Putin has been enabled to prop up his kleptocracy with a shambles economy with the assistance of oil money, sure. But there are tinpot dictators all over the world, not just in petrostates.

      Norway has gobs of oil money and I don't see Sweden living in fear of a totalitarian king Olaf the eighth, either.

      There's clearly nothing intrinsically evil about oil money, while there have been terroristic Russian czars since forever. His causal chain sort of falls apart when one isn't trying to contrive some eco-justifying contortions.

      Dictators, like any ruler, need a base of support.

      If it's a popular base of support they need a big motivator like ideology (Communism) or one side of an ethnic conflict (often the smaller side because they're united by fear of the majority).

      But if you have a big wealth source like Oil you can both build some popular support (everybody is rich!) but more importantly maintain a really well funded police state.

      Now I don't think Friedman's plan to suddenly limit the demand for Oil is practical, but he's correct that a crash in Oil prices is very bad for Putin.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by marcle ( 1575627 )

      Oh no! What if we conserve energy and we're wrong? We'd end up with cleaner air, less global warming, more equal distribution of wealth, less commuting, fewer traffic accidents -- that would be terrible!

  • Realism (Score:2, Informative)

    by markdavis ( 642305 )

    >"How to Defeat Putin and Save the Planet " "end with America finally, formally, categorically and irreversibly ending its addiction to oil."

    Nothing we (the USA) do with energy right NOW is going to "defeat Putin". Nothing we (the USA) do with energy in the foreseeable future will make that much of dent in the emissions of the rest of the world.

    We (the USA) are already on a trajectory for a non-economy-devastating reduction in fossil fuel use, but it is going to take many years. And solar/wind and espe

    • The fastest path would be nuclear, but we can see what is happening there (nothing).

      In which sense do you mean that? Because I used to be a huge proponent of nuclear until I found out that none of the waste solutions were practical. And I always heard about fancy pantsy reactors that were supposed to solve all the problems, but then they never seemed to pan out for one technical reason or another. So if what you mean is that they never actually deliver on the promise of nuclear power, I'm with you one hundred percent.

      Like everything else, the trend in optimization is to use less materials

      • >"In which sense do you mean that? Because I used to be a huge proponent of nuclear until I found out that none of the waste solutions were practical"

        I just mean fastest. Not necessarily best, for sure. Nuclear has inherent risks and certainly disposal issues. But we do KNOW nuclear and have plenty of fuel available for it and can store waste properly. That that is certainly the case for western Europe, even more than the USA.

        The reality is that this stuff is complicated. Producing and using energy

  • and drive slower and all our problems are solved.
  • We could undercut Russian sales. America going green is great but that isn't going to stop other global consumers, like China or India. We need to ensure that Russia does not have any customers for their product.
    • America has plans for China and India too
      • China also has plans for the U.S.A. and India. So in the end, it's either corruption disguised as democracy and freedom, or totalitarianism disguised as unity that wins.

        As a Canadian, I have to apologize that my opinion is that I don't like these two options.

  • The US produces enough of its own oil to meet its own need. The real reason prices are up is commodities traders trying to get every penny out of buying and selling things they will never even see. We could lower gas prices overnight by splitting the market for US oil from the rest of the world, then the price of Russian oil - and any other geopolitical issue - would not matter.
    • Does the US produce enough oil for diesel?You need heavy oil to create that, and Russia has heavy oil.

  • Funny.. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by SuperDre ( 982372 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @08:16AM (#62412936) Homepage
    And yet the US itself is a petrol-dictator themselves, but also supports other petrol-dictators. The US doesn't want europe to go green, it wants europe to get its gas from the US.
  • Next! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Ol Olsoc ( 1175323 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @08:34AM (#62412970)
    How about how we can defeat Putin by getting more women in STEM, or by (pick your favorite axe to grind)

    It doesn't matter whether it is a worthy goal or not, it is simply another way to shift the topic. And in one of the worst, and most clumsy attempts of shifting the topic away from the countries actually fighting each other, and laying the blame at the feet of the USA.

    And Friedman whom I generally respect, has dropped several notches, to become an axe grinder.

    • It doesn't matter whether it is a worthy goal or not, it is simply another way to shift the topic. And in one of the worst, and most clumsy attempts of shifting the topic away from the countries actually fighting each other, and laying the blame at the feet of the USA.

      Getting rid of Putin is bigger in scope than his cruel war with Ukraine. Oil, not STEM careers, is 40% of his income.

      That's the topic, duh.

  • by Mozai ( 3547 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @08:38AM (#62412990) Homepage
    You're reporting the appearance of an opinion piece, but you've named it a "how to" document.
  • Me: "Hey boss, I'm going to be working remotely from home from now on!"
    Boss: "What? You better give me a good reason for that!"
    Me: "I have two good reasons! I'm saving the planet and I'm helping in the war against Putin!"
    Boss: "..."

  • by 140Mandak262Jamuna ( 970587 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @12:28PM (#62413376) Journal
    I am no big fan of that (adjective deleted to avoid distractions) Winston Churchill, but that guy was a genius who said, Never let a good crisis to go to waste

    We had a super phenomenal crisis in 9/11. There was a spontaneous groundswell of opinion against Saudi Arabia and oil. If we had made a serious commitment to wean our economy off oil, insulate our politics from the gasoline prices on the street, ... we would have had 20 years to contain the oil menace.

    Instead we had an oil man for President and an oil man for vice-President. They moved to make sure no matter what our addiction will not be affected. Then a bunch of American oil oligarchs thought, We pushed Iraq off Kuwait in just six weeks, if we topple Saddam and install our puppet, imagine ... . They don't let a good crisis to go to waste. They took charge of the Anger in America and directed it towards Saddam Hussein, an enemy of Saudi Arabia!

    The writing seems to be on the wall. Finally, 20 years later, everyone knows we can wean our economy off oil and natural gas. Windmill and solar to create energy, batteries to even out the intermittency problem. We don't need any new technology breakthroughs. Just seven to 14 day supply of natural gas and oil to run the powerplants for the unlikely event of a 500 mile radius cloud cover over two full weeks. Store the gas and oil in salt caves or tanks ... LFP batteries are heavier but good enough for grid/home energy storage. LFPs can replace all diesel locomotives too. We need Li-ion for cars and light vehicles. But eventually low end cars might switch to LFPs.

    We are at the cusp of finally driving the nails into the coffin of oil.

  • So long as Putin continues to exist, there will be problems. He has to GO. Preferably he needs to become dead. Furthermore all the oligarchs that have been backing him need to be destroyed too, or at least made irrelevant, although I don't think anyone would be sad if they all became dead too. Probably impossible, but then Russia needs a non-corrupt government, preferably some flavor of (actually) democratic.
    Of course none of this is likely to happen. Putin will fail in Ukraine, he'll come down with a sudd
  • by AmazingRuss ( 555076 ) on Sunday April 03, 2022 @05:57PM (#62414180)
    Everybody thinks somebody else should make the sacrifice.

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