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The IBM PC Turns 40 (theregister.com) 117

The Register's Richard Speed commemorates the 40th anniversary of the introduction of the IBM Model 5150: IBM was famously late to the game when the Model 5150 (or IBM PC) put in an appearance. The likes of Commodore and Apple pretty much dominated the microcomputer world as the 1970s came to a close and the 1980s began. Big Blue, on the other hand, was better known for its sober, business-orientated products and its eyewatering price tags. However, as its customers began eying Apple products, IBM lumbered toward the market, creating a working group that could dispense with the traditional epic lead-times of Big Blue and take a more agile approach. A choice made was to use off-the-shelf hardware and software and adopt an open architecture. A significant choice, as things turned out.

Intel's 8088 was selected over the competition (including IBM's own RISC processor) and famously, Microsoft was tapped to provide PC DOS as well as BASIC that was included in the ROM. So this marks the 40th anniversary of PC DOS, aka MS-DOS, too. You can find Microsoft's old MS-DOS source code here. The basic price for the 5150 was $1,565, with a fully loaded system rising to more than $3,000. Users could enjoy high resolution monochrome text via the MDA card or some low resolution graphics (and vaguely nauseating colors) through a CGA card (which could be installed simultaneously.) RAM landed in 16 or 64kB flavors and could be upgraded to 256kB while the Intel 8088 CPU chugged along at 4.77 MHz.

Storage came courtesy of up to two 5.25" floppy disks, and the ability to attach a cassette recorder -- an option swiftly stripped from later models. There was no hard disk, and adding one presented a problem for users with deep enough pockets: the motherboard and software didn't support it and the power supply was a bit weedy. IBM would resolve this as the PC evolved. Importantly, the motherboard also included slots for expansion, which eventually became known as the Industry Standard Architecture (ISA) bus as the IBM PC clone sector exploded. IBM's approach resulted in an immense market for expansion cards and third party software.
While the Model 5150 "sold like hotcakes," Speed notes that it was eventually discontinued in 1987.
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  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Saturday August 14, 2021 @06:10AM (#61691189)

    ... started 50 years ago - gave people full control over their computing activities. ... died 15 years ago - control is now squarely back in the hands of gigantic corporations out to shaft the users.

    • by bjwest ( 14070 )
      For Microsoft and Apple based PCs, yeah, but Linux based PCs are as open and under user control as they ever were. And by PC, I mean desktop and laptop, although Linux is working on the handheld market as well. I don't think it will take off any better than the Sharp Zaurus did back in 2002, but the choice is there if you want. I still have my Zaurus somewhere in the back of my closet, I may dig it out and see if it still works.
    • by markdavis ( 642305 ) on Saturday August 14, 2021 @07:50AM (#61691317)

      >"control is now squarely back in the hands of gigantic corporations out to shaft the users."

      That completely depends on what you CHOOSE to use. If you choose to use MS-Windows, MacOS, or ChromeOS, then yes. If you choose to use Linux and associated FOSS like Firefox, GIMP, LibreOffice, X, etc, then no.

      Choosing the path of FOSS certainly isn't without its own set of challenges. But if you value your freedom and privacy, then you can weigh those just as high as any other factors. And before someone says it isn't viable- my 76-year-old mother has used FOSS systems for decades, and at work I have hundreds of people who do, too.

      • It literally does not matter what operating system you use. There is literally a CPU inside of your CPU running all of the shit that you don't want in your primary OS. Worse yet, it is remotely accessible wirelessly through the cell towers. It is just sitting there waiting for a ping from the cell network to activate.

        Yeah, on a superficial level, running Linux or *BSD is useful, but ...

        • >"It literally does not matter what operating system you use. There is literally a CPU inside of your CPU running all of the shit that you don't want in your primary OS. "

          That depends on which CPU and what OS and what settings.

          >"Worse yet, it is remotely accessible wirelessly through the cell towers."

          That is not true of a desktop or most laptops. Perhaps a phone. Yes, phones are far more problematic when it comes to having control.

          • That is not true of a desktop or most laptops.

            LOL. Someone wasn't paying attention over a decade ago when it was discovered that Intel was embedding 3g modems in all of their CPUs. Nobody has ever claimed AMD does it, but I would be shocked to find out they don't include modems in their chips. It is such an NSA thing to do.

            • >"LOL. Someone wasn't paying attention over a decade ago when it was discovered that Intel was embedding 3g modems in all of their CPUs. Nobody has ever claimed AMD does it, but I would be shocked to find out they don't include modems in their chips. It is such an NSA thing to do."

              Some Intel chipsets might have support for a cell modem, but that doesn't mean the motherboard has it connected to the necessary circuitry to actually use it. At a very minimum, it would at least require an antenna. I can't f

              • And so another generation gets to relearn. *sigh* Your userid is low enough that you should have been awake and aware when the 3g modem bomb dropped. Such things are quickly forgotten.

                A person (NSA?) can contact the IME (Intel Management Engine) running in your CPU unless you have built a Faraday cage around it. The IME can examine everything inside of your computer without disrupting (perceptibly) the OS that you are running. This was supposedly for "Lost item" tracking by corporations, but I have yet to s

    • 'control is now squarely back in the hands of gigantic corporations out to shaft the users'

      Only someone who wasn't the user of old style mainframe programs would make a comment as ignorant as that. The reality is that Windows offers minimal control, and the range and variety of things one can do from its desktop does not constitute 'controlled',
      **
      I've told you a billion times not to exaggerate...

      • Clearly, you've not tried e.g. Linux with e.g. KDE.
        On my system, modifying any program, even its code, or even a kernel patch, is a trivial thing. (Essentially: Prepare installing the (source) package, go to the location the files were unpacked to, duplicate the directory, modify the duplicate, create a patch file with `diff`, put the patch file into a special directory where the package manager will pick it up in the future too, delete the unmodified duplicate directory, continue installing the package, le

        • by Rhipf ( 525263 )

          On my system, modifying any program, even its code, or even a kernel patch, is a trivial thing.

          It is only really a "trivial thing" if the average person can do it without help. Since you call it trivial I will assume you aren't the average person/user of a Linux system or a PC in general. I highly doubt there is more than maybe 10% of the Linux using community that can "modifying any program, even its code, or even a kernel patch".

    • ... started 50 years ago - gave people full control over their computing activities. ... died 15 years ago - control is now squarely back in the hands of gigantic corporations out to shaft the users.

      If you only want to do what you could do on your pre-Internet PC, you still have that choice, with exactly as much control as we had then. But connectivity is important enough to most of us that we are willing to make controversial tradeoffs.

      Forty years ago, you were stuck with expensive cable TV and expensive landline phone service. You had to choose which newspaper you wanted to subscribe to, having your access to daily information subject to the sociopolitical whims of the most powerful family in town. W

      • by Rhipf ( 525263 )

        When you needed to look something up, you had to drive to the library.

        What self respecting household in the 70's-80's didn't have a nice collection of encyclopedia books? No need to drive to the library.

        8^)

    • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Saturday August 14, 2021 @10:54AM (#61691669)

      No its not. You can still do what you want with your PC. Still install Linux. Still play with compiled from source code yourself. The power is yours.

      The fact that users voluntarily choose to go to a few large companies for convenience in exchange for control doesn't mean anyone is being shafted.

      You do you, and stop dictating how other people should use their PCs.

      • > few large companies for convenience in exchange for control doesn't mean anyone is being shafted.

        Tell that bullshit to this woman [wccftech.com], this guy [wccftech.com] or this [microsoft.com] person.

        • I see your links to three idiots voluntarily selling themselves out to Microsoft. They have the option to install Linux just like you do.

          • Microshaft forced upgrades onto people. They don't respect people's time.

            Are you even fucking reading the articles?

            • I am. Are you following the discussion? Microsoft could come along and eat people's babies and it still doesn't change that people are voluntarily using Microsoft. They are free to install Linux and own their computers like everyeone else. I'm not sure what it is you don't understand about this concept.

    • control is now squarely back in the hands of gigantic corporations out to shaft the users.

      That's not true at all. It's only in their hands if you give it to them. I have more control my own PC than ever before thanks to open source software. Many have handed over the reins with "cloud computing" and "web apps" but it's entirely optional.

      If you feel powerless it's because you have buyer's remorse after having given away your control.

    • Not a bad FP. True and all that, but not so much directed to the topic of the story. Maybe you really object to IBM getting too much credit? I agree with what you say (though not so much on the timing), and yet...

      My take is different. I see it more as a tragic failure like the end of the dinosaurs. At least you'd see it as a failure if you were one of the dinosaurs. The 360 project was kind of magnificent. But technology moved on, and IBM failed to evolve. Not so much a giant meteor strike as an entire stor

  • by 50000BTU_barbecue ( 588132 ) on Saturday August 14, 2021 @06:53AM (#61691253) Journal

    Yeah and Atari. With the 2600 and the whole A8 line they were an important part of the early home computer revolution.
    That's what I started on thanks to my parents and their friends who had an Atari setup, and also encouraged my parents to send young me to a "computer camp" (yes those were a thing) which had Ataris.
    Although my parents got me a VIC-20 for Christmas because we weren't rich. Thanks Mom and Dad!

    Enough nostalgia, but let's not forget large players like Atari as part of the revolution.

    • Oh boo-hoo you only got a Vic-20 for Christmas. When I was a kid my parents couldn't afford to buy "Great Expectations". I had to do a book report on "Pretty Good Expectations".
    • Yeah and Atari. With the 2600 and the whole A8 line they were an important part of the early home computer revolution. That's what I started on thanks to my parents and their friends who had an Atari setup, and also encouraged my parents to send young me to a "computer camp" (yes those were a thing) which had Ataris. Although my parents got me a VIC-20 for Christmas because we weren't rich. Thanks Mom and Dad!

      Enough nostalgia, but let's not forget large players like Atari as part of the revolution.

      Small nitpick, 2600 was the game system. Atari 400 and 800 were the PCs.

      Had one of those, and a VIC_20 ... typing in BASIC programs from Compute magazine was the best ...

      • by kackle ( 910159 )
        Bare in mind that the Atari 2600 and the Odyssey 2 (where I cut my teeth via machine language) had "game" cartridges that allowed the user to write his own tiny programs. That was fantastic in a 1970s world where most people had never even SEEN a computer in person.
    • Dont forget the Ti-99, on display at every Sears, K-mart, and Hills. Never underestimate the power of the movie War Games has on the mind of an impressionable youth. Who wouldnt want to hack their class grades and give themselves As? Thats around the time that everyone and their mother was marketing a personal computer. Timex sinclair; Texas Instruments Ti-99; RadioShack TRS-80 and their smaller Color Computer; IBM PC and later the PC Jr; Commodore-64 was widely popular. Then when 8-bit really took off you
  • by Koen Lefever ( 2543028 ) on Saturday August 14, 2021 @07:11AM (#61691277)
    I thought "too little, too late" at the time, since there were more powerful 68000 and 8086 systems on the market when IBM launched its PC with a crippled 8088 CPU. Also, new machnes based on Zilog's Z8000 and Z80000 were supposed to be just around the corner.

    Microsoft's BASICA was years behind e.g. BBC BASIC, PC-DOS was primitive in comparison to UniFLEX or OS-9. The amount of software available for CP/M was huge.

    I definitely underestimated the power of a premium brand and marketing.
    • Well the government also required its contractors to use PC DOS formats on federal projects

      • Well the government also required its contractors to use PC DOS formats on federal projects

        At launch time in August 1981? Anyway, lobbying to government is just another form of marketing.

        Also: the only country with "federal projects" in my neighborhood was West Germany, I was not aware of any US regulations (with the exception of the excessive EM shielding in American computers).

        • Lobbying is also a form of treason in the form of bribery and conflicts of interest.
          Quite literally. AFAIK it's still 20 years in prison, isn't it? The only difference was that is was not done in the open, as back then, it will still actually seen as a crime.

          But then again, you are probably right, that that just makes it another form of marketing because all marketing is crime.

        • EM shielding?
          Not on a TRS-80 model I those things used to make AM radio die. They were probably being used as an anti-RADAR jamming system.

    • Re: I remember this (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Zero__Kelvin ( 151819 ) on Saturday August 14, 2021 @07:41AM (#61691303) Homepage
      It had literally nothing to do with marketing. It was the open nature. Every company that failed to support open standards eventually failed in the PC market. DEC also eventually died by the same sword. They refused to be open. For example even when Ethernet evolved from DECnet DEC insisted on remaining proprietary and producing NICs that didn't play well with others. In the late 80s some bozos tied our PC LAN to the DECnet LAN without a bridge despite my warning that it would be disastrous and suddenly every attempt to log in to any of the 14 VAXs we had resulted in the same VAX responding. Nobody could get to the other 13 systems. Despite knowing that they had tied them together after I told them not to do it they still couldn't figure out why shit suddenly stopped working. To hide their incompetence they quickly blamed it on me and let me go. Good times.
      • DEC was the first to market with a 64bit system though :-). While everyone was bitching about MS Windows throwing 32-bit extensions on a still 16-bit OS, DEC was churning 64-bit true multitasking with their Alpha system.
      • It had literally nothing to do with marketing. It was the open nature.

        The IBM PC was not *that* open until the BIOS was clean-room reverse engineered by Columbia Data Products, Compaq, Cardiff Electric(*) and Phoenix.

        Elektuur (a.k.a. Elektor Magazine) used to publish complete systems with schematics, PCB layouts and ROM listings, so there were more open (and more powerful) microcomputers around in the early 1980s.

        In the end, it was also the "open nature" and the clones which killed the PC for IBM.

        (*) just kidding...

        • Thatâ(TM)s funnyâ¦one of the first manuals I bought was the IBM PC Technical Manual which contained a listing of the BIOS (or was it just the entry pointsâ¦too long ago). IBM did produce great manuals.

          However, I had no problem leveraging the BIOS in my apps.

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          • >IBM never meant "Other manufacturers will be able to create clones".

            IBM would licence the use of the IBM BIOS and PC-DOS to (almost) anyone who wanted to make clones. It just cost too much. The later alternate BIOSes were cheaper.

            >the PC was originally conceived that it would run CP/M,

            CP/M-86 was available for IBM-PC but it was $250 vs $70 for IBM PC-DOS.

            >with the only modifications likely being those needed to support the extra memory.

            PC-DOS 1.x only supported 8080 mode programs as .COM
          • by spitzak ( 4019 )

            The BIOS was far worse than you are describing. You actually had to do TWO calls per character, which is literally twice as bad as I could imagine the stupidest person designing.

            There was one call to change the character under the cursor. There was another call to move the cursor.

            A single call that took a whole buffer of characters and put them on the screen and interpreted Escape sequences in them and was written with even a tiny bit of optimization was easily within the capabilities of software engineers

        • Cardiff Electric(*) just kidding...

          I remember that one, the "Cardiff Giant", though the "Giant Pro" was only "not bad". What was it that Joe MacMillan said, "Computers aren't the thing. They're the thing that gets us to the thing."

          Another "Halt and Catch Fire" fan, I see.

      • It had literally nothing to do with marketing. It was the open nature. Every company that failed to support open standards eventually failed in the PC market.

        Yes, absolutely that!

        IBM was late in the game. And as the summary mentions they needed to quickly come up with something to not be left in the dust: and thus quickly released something on the market by bashing together cheap of-the-shelf parts.

        Meaning that any cloner could make a PC compatible by simply picking the same part out of the same metaphorical shelf. Initially the BIOS might have be a slight difficulty (it would have been a copyright violation to clone the same ROM content) but even there compatib

        • That leaves one open quesion: There are open late-to-the-game phone manufacturers too. There were open computer manufacturers back then.
          Why did they not succeed?

          it can't be openness alone, or everyone would make parts for the Fairphone today.

          Everyone is still making their own locked-down shit.

          I guess IBM PCs were a bigger market than the Fairphone.
          Imagine if Fairphone would become the official government phone for some larger union like the US or EU. That might kickstart it...
          Anyone wanna suggest that to th

          • It is 2021 not 1980. Nobody questions the value of open anymore save Apple, who is the corner case that proves the rule. You can't use today's scenario to try to contradict a point made about what was true 50 years ago.
      • But IBM did support open standards and still failed in the PC market. Apple on the other hand doesn't support open standards (there are a few exceptions), and it seems to be doing just fine after all these years. Marketing goes a long way.
      • by g01d4 ( 888748 )

        It had literally nothing to do with marketing.

        Brand and marketing are important but they only get you so far. They give you a boost out the gate and some extra momentum should the proprietary wheels feel off. Enough of a boost at the beginning could turn those proprietary wheels into a standard (iPhone) and they stay bolted on. The boost after a late start just gives you momentum.

    • My dad worked for IBM at the time. He worked in failure analysis running an electron microscope. I remember some of the hacks to get around the expense of the floppy disk drives. As the article stated, no internal hard disk. Floppy drives came in a few flavors. Double sided was a costly upgrade. So naturally a hack developed where people bought double-sided double-density disks, cutting an identical write protect notch on the opposite side. Then they would flip the disk in their single-sided drive to acces
    • >The amount of software available for CP/M was huge.

      Much of which was easily translated to MS-DOS. The IBM-PC was launched with Wordstar, Visicalc, dBase II, PeachTree, and various languages available on day 1.
  • The likes of (Score:4, Informative)

    by markdavis ( 642305 ) on Saturday August 14, 2021 @07:55AM (#61691323)

    >"The likes of Commodore and Apple pretty much dominated the microcomputer world as the 1970s came to a close"

    And Tandy/TRS-80, which was just as important and major at the time.

    • Every computer lab in our schools were based on the trash-80s. If you think no hard drive is primitive, you should see a school computer lab where the teachers machine was the only one with a floppy drive. All the other machines were slaved via serial cable and shared drive access. Now THATs primitive. Even more primitive than a cassette drive and a journal to write down the tape counter to get to your file faster (because who wants to play back a 90min tape for a program toward the end?)
    • >"The likes of Commodore and Apple pretty much dominated the microcomputer world as the 1970s came to a close"

      And Tandy/TRS-80, which was just as important and major at the time.

      TRS-80 was king in the schools. We were all going to be ushered into the future by playing Oregon Trail.

  • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Saturday August 14, 2021 @08:25AM (#61691363) Homepage Journal

    I got it used and late of course, because I was poor, but my first PC was the first PC. When I got it, it had a text card and 448kB RAM (64kB maxed out onboard; 384kB on an AST expansion card which also had a RTC.) I was able to run UUPC in this, though I came to uucp too late to get in the maps (when they were only really doing maintenance.) Back then a lot of PC software was still capable of running in that little memory, so long as you weren't blowing a bunch of it on TSRs. I upgraded to a Herc graphics card, and even played some games on it. When I got it, it had DOS 3.0 and Lotus 1.0 on it...

    • the 5150 was a good machine to learn on. the math coprocessor version was a good way to learn some assembly.
      • Sadly, I didn't get involved in programming until much later in my life. This is kind of ironic because I was in BBBS and my BB was a programmer at Parallel Computing, I think he worked on some kind of collaborative editor back in the glass terminal days. His initials were GM if anyone recognizes this stuff and wonders if it was someone they knew, but anyway I have tinkered with twiddling other people's code all along (at least, since I got into Linux and had a toolchain) but didn't ever take a class in pro

  • This will certainly date me, but I remember buying this machine and then shortly after fellow programmers talking about the AT. The AT clocked in at a scorching 6Mhz. A fatherly senior position guy was telling me assuredly that no one would need that kind of power. No, the AT would be better employed as a server (whatever that was).

  • by mykepredko ( 40154 ) on Saturday August 14, 2021 @09:06AM (#61691423) Homepage

    I was working at IBM as a co-op student at the time in "DP-IS" ("Data Processing - Information Systems") and I asked a second line manager manager in a "function meeting" around June/July about the rumours of the IBM "Personal Computer" and he told me (and everybody in the meeting) that IBM had no plans for a small computer like the Apple ][ or the Commodore. A number of the people in the meeting pointed out that IBM already had individual computers in the 7500 (which was for industrial uses) and the Display Writer (a word processor) - the 2nd line manager said that those products fit in with IBM's product strategy; what was being reported did not and, if it was, it would be the death of IBM.

    The second memory was showing off the PC within IBM a couple of weeks later. Two were brought into the office and appointment times were set up when people could see demos. When I got to see the first units, there was one with a word processor application running. This wasn't as unimpressive as you might think because with the monochrome display and the ability to have brighter/darker text along with underlining and reverse text it had better capabilities than the IBM mainframe monochrome terminals at the time - 3177, 525x.

    The second PC had its case taken off and a plexiglas cover was put over the unit so people could see what was inside. People were amazed at the complexity but I remember being underwhelmed because of all the empty sockets for expansion cards, the coprocessor and memory.

    The 2nd line manager who told us why IBM would never produce a "Personal Computer' refused to go to the PC demonstration. There was a lot of talk about it and people thinking he was a horse's ass for not acknowledging he was wrong.

  • Hot cakes (Score:5, Funny)

    by tmmagee ( 1475877 ) on Saturday August 14, 2021 @09:10AM (#61691437)
    After all of these years of hearing the expression "sold like hot cakes," I finally looked up what a hot cake was. They are pancakes.

    Maybe off-topic, but I still wanted to share.
    • The breakfast line much have been busy back whenever that phrase was made. I think scrambles and skillets and burritos are what people mainly go for these days.

      Doesn't McDonald's call them hot cakes too?

    • Back in my day, we called the flapjacks. Now get off my lawn!
  • should be enough for anybody.
    • It was actually 1MB.
      640kB were just the lower memory. In upper memory there were the BIOS, graphics card memory, etc. Mostly mapped into memory if I remember correctly.
      You could, and I did, move stuff from lower memory into there, to get more free RAM. It was regularly done for games, back then.
      The coolest trick was disabling I think some old graphics memory for a unused mode, that was right above 640k. That way, you could get 720kB of lower memory!
      Suddenly, you could run all your TSRs and stuff, PLUS your

      • by spitzak ( 4019 )

        Besides memory-mapped screen buffers the big use of high memory was gaps of unused space between the buffers and between the last one and the end. They did not think one bit before designing this, any sensible design would have crammed toghether and overlapped as much memory mapping as possible. The color and monochrome buffers were in different places in memory so in the vast majority of cases only one was used but software had to avoid both, and the gap between them which was much bigger than either buffe

    • Gates never said it [computerworld.com].
  • Wow, I didn't get my first computer (an Epson) until my folks gave me their old one around 1994. I am feeling all spry and youthful today.
  • With uefi istead of bios, 64bit instead of 16 bit, pci-e instead of isa, nvme solid state disks instead of floppies and mfm hard drives, Windows/Linux instead of DOS and requiring a tpm means that there is very little genetic material left in modern computers.
    • You sure about that? I just pulled up typical gamer motherboard out of curiosity and I'm seeing serial and parallel headers.

      • Have you looked at the device map to see how that stuff is connected, though? Serious question, not mocking yet. First let me look at mine, which is a FX-8350 on a G1 Gaming 1.0 board... Yep, there's mine sitting on the PCI to ISA bridge. And yes, I do have a port connected to the header, what kind of monster doesn't? ;) However, it doesn't have a parallel port, which is sad because they have a lot of hack value. In the past I've used higher end PC parallel ports with some fancy versions of PLIP to get vint

        • So maybe the parallel port is 2nd to last thing to go... I only see serial used in point of sale devices because USB is flaky and can come and go, and of course big iron and telco devices still use serial for initial setup. Most people wouldn't use on a P.C.

    • by spitzak ( 4019 )

      You might want to ask why your numeric keys have redundant arrows printed on them. This is all left over from awful decisions when the PC was made, and also when the AT was made (it got you dedicated arrow keys, but some goofball decided to make them the "new" keys with new codes, rather than keep the "numeric" keys for them since everybody used those for arrows. Since there was software still assuming the old setup they did not see these arrow keys at all, and acted like the numeric keys were arrows, requi

  • by Ronin Developer ( 67677 ) on Saturday August 14, 2021 @10:15AM (#61691567)

    The introduction of the IBM PC by IBM meant legitimacy and itâ(TM)s acceptance by small business. Up until that point, the PC scene was for hobbyists and gaming.

    RISC chips? Z80, 8080A, 8086/88, and 6800 ruled the dayâ¦PowerPC didnâ(TM)t come until later.

    I learned on an Altair. But, my first PC was the IBM PC with 16 K RAM and a tape drive and color graphics card. . Eventually, it had 640K, 2 5.25 floppy drives, modem, Hercules graphics card and an 8087 math coprocessor. I developed software using C, Forth, Basic, and Turbo Pascal.

    When I went to Drexel, they told me I had to buy a Mac 128. I was initially pissed off. But, that little machineâ¦once upgraded a few times and the addition of a hard drive served me many years and travelled the world with me in my stateroom aboard ship.

  • Microsoft was tapped to provide PC DOS

    IBM contracted Microsoft to provide the Operating System. That IBM paid for up-front. Microsoft then used the money to buy 86-DOS from Seattle Computer Products and licensed it per-copy to IBM as PC DOS.

    After all, if one could reverse engineer the BIOS [theregister.com] then building one's own PC was simply a case of picking the right off-the-shelf parts. Just like IBM.

    A bit economical with the facts. IBM copy-righted the BIOS. The clone makers got ro
    • The best business decision by Gates et.al was to get royalties from IBM on every copy of PC-DOS sold. And allow MS to sell MS-DOS to non-IBM manufactures. MS-DOS was supplied as a default on nearly all of the "clones".

  • Fuck I'm old
  • Tragic topic needs some Funny? But I can't think of a good IBM-related joke? How about comparing dragons to dinosaurs? Then maybe this joke qualifies:

    Two dragons walked into a bar. The first dragon complained it was too hot, so the second dragon says "Shut your mouth."

    (Apologies to Jimmy Carr.)

  • Not long before IBM Boca Raton announced its IBM/PC, IBM Corporate announce an IBM Personal Computer, based upon a small 370 model mainframe with a 3270 terminal. It took up a large room and cost about $1,000,000.
    • IBM sold more PC's in the first six months than the guys back in the office said they would sell in the first 5 years or so. Tandy did the same thing, they sold more TRS-80 Model I's in a month than they projected they would sell in the first year.

      This is not the first time that IBM screwed the future pooch.
      Old Man IBM said their was a need for about 5 mainframes in the WORLD in the early 50's.
      Old Man IBM did not by all the intellectual property for what became Xerox for essentially the same reason. (He tho

  • I still have an IBM 5150 PC here, a model B.

    The 5150 was not IBM's first PC, there were earlier models in the 5100 series, even onre that was a luggable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] in 1975. The 5110 and 5120 followed.

    IBM were concerned that there were many Apple IIs with Z80 cards appearing in their mainframe sites so the IBM 5150 was designed to be just a bit more than an Apple II: 180Kb disks instead of 160Kb. 128Kb instead of 64Kb (on the Z80 card) and CP/M like PC-DOS.

    Their first design was
    • Sure, and IBM's first commercial RISC machine, the ROMP-powered IBM PC/RT — which flopped in the market due to the implication that it was just another PC, which didn't match the price of the immensely more powerful system. It did use the same bus, though. I had four or five of the most powerful models, the 16MB (!) RAM Model 135s IIRC. Hmm, look what I found with google, https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi... [ibm.com]

  • The IBM PC had instant credibility as an office machine. Keyboard built like a tank. Not unlike your Selectric. 80 column text and monitor. Strong thitd part support from established software developers like Peachtree. In many ways a simple, straight-forward upgrade from CP/M.

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