Ericsson To Build 'Fully-Automated' 5G Factory In the US By Early 2020 (zdnet.com) 108
Ericsson announced its plans to build a 5G factory in the U.S. sometime early next year. "The factory will be the Swedish telco equipment maker's first fully-automated factory, the company said, and will be used to produce 5G radios designed for urban areas," reports ZDNet. "It will also make Advanced Antenna System radios that it said are components for large-scale deployments of 4G and 5G networks for both rural and urban coverage." From the report: Ericsson did not provide details about where the factory will be located, but the company has plans to initially employ around 100 people at the factory, which will have "highly automated operations." Ericsson is currently signed on by T-Mobile, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, US Cellular, and GCI to help build out their respective 5G mobile networks. According to the Ericsson's latest mobility report, North America is expected to lead in the adoption of 5G, with the company predicting that 63% of North American mobile subscriptions will be 5G-based in 2024. Fierce Wireless says the company has made a direct investment of about $100 million, "which will kick in during the third quarter of this year."
Robotic boardrooms? (Score:2)
I wonder when the directors of these big corps are thinking of automating their own - rather easy - jobs? Somehow I suspect we may be waiting a while for that one...
Yes, it is. (Score:1)
Delegat, delegate, delegate.
The only hard part is getting people to do your work for you.
That is what "hard-working people" never get: You don't get rich by doing work! You can only do so many hours at so much an hour a month!
You get rich by NOT doing work!
Well, apart from avoiding work like a motherfucker, by making others work, and getting others to let you use their money for it.
You need no riches, and no hard working, to become a fatcat.
Only enough confidence, appearance and zero conscience, to bullshit
Thank you for validating. (Score:1)
It's funny ... if one replies with no arguments, all one does, is validate that the opponent had valid arguments that one wants to counter... and show that one oneself has nothing to counter them with.
So in a way... thanks for agreeing. :)
Not your capital, "voter". (Score:1)
That of a rich idiot suffices.
It's literally how the nobility transitioned into industrialization. I researched it. Their kids took all their family money, went to buddies and bullshitted them too, to give him their money, and then took all that to the bank, to bullshit them into giving them even more.
Then they used that money to hire people to plan, build and manage factories, including hiring workers.
And soon they had all the money in the world and paid back the others.
Note how they neither used their *ow
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You oversimplify, and I think you have a rather limited definition of "work".
That said, a large part of becoming rich is having rich parents. That's not the entire part. Another part is taking the correct chances...which will not be the ones that everyone else believes are correct. But this doesn't do that much good unless you have enough capital to start with. And there is also a strong need for political skills, which *CAN* be the ones you listed, but aren't necessarily them. It's just that if you gr
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Well done.
Just because people don't like the politics of Marxism doesn't mean that the historical analysis and economic theory of Marxism is incorrect.
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"I wonder when the directors of these big corps are thinking of automating their own - rather easy - jobs? "
This one will be "fully automated", there's nobody else there but him. He has even to pick up the phone.
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A company will have a board of directors ranging from one (for sole-trader companies, to a handful (SMEs, up to a couple of hundred employees) to a couple of dozen (for multinationals). Most factories/ worksites/ contract/ business units will never see a director in their life.
Bring jobs to America (Score:2)
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Also, leading... Well, nearly.
63% on 5G by 2024 sounds like a huge delay to me.
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Bring non-jobs to the US! (Score:2)
I doubt that was the plan of a certain person...
Those 100 Workers (Score:1)
Re:Those 100 Workers (Score:5, Insightful)
It also said, "the company has plans to initially employ around 100 people," which means their bringing in around 100 specialists to set up all of the machinery. There will probably be about 10 people working at the plant after that at any one time. A few people to take the inputs out of boxes and set it up for the robots to use, a few more to take the outputs and put those into larger boxes to ship, someone to load/unload trucks, a security guard, and a manager. Of course the security guard will be contracted out, along with anyone who does the cleaning, and yard maintenance.
$10/hr (Score:1)
Of course the security guard will be contracted out, along with anyone who does the cleaning, and yard maintenance.
For $10/hr or less, no health insurance or dental and they will always be scheduled for less than 40 hours a week. And their schedules will vary from week to week so making any long term plans is impossible - or having a second job that does the exact some thing.
Ask for time off to actually see doctor or dentist or whatever? Well, the agency is called and a replacement is demanded. They don't want to take the time or effort to work around some peon's schedule.
The way the working poor is treated in this cou
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But the problem of voting for politicians will soon be solved. When Trump gets his coup and installs a hereditary presidency, the only thing to worry about is whether you'll be fighting for High Lord Jared, or Domina Ivanka.
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Ericsson is Swedish and Nokia is Finnish.
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They sold their handset division to Sony, who persisted with the Sony Ericsson branding for a while, then changed it to just Sony. They mostly do infrastructure stuff now. They do cellular base stations, DSLAMs, and various stuff for building backhaul for telcos and ISPs.
We're not talking about 5G and privacy (Score:4, Interesting)
Working in the privacy field, I'm not a big fan of 5G. It uses way more precise triangulation and tracking.
It needs this because in order to reach the very high speeds beam forming is used, and this requires the antenna to know where the device is.
The precision is shifting from 100m average accuracy to 10m average accuracy. And with that people may lose a lot of 'plausible deniability. Imagine a politician in the red light district. Now he/she can say "I was there, but I did not see a hooker". But with 5G you can pinpoint people inside houses, all from the 'serverside'.
We should have a public debate about this, but we're not having it.
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Privacy is about as sexy as security, as it tends to be a list of things you can't do, or shouldn't do without doing X first.
And it's trivial to convince plebes that someone's privacy should be violated because they look a little sketchy.
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People used to ask why J. Edgar Hoover got away with so much. One of the replies was "He has a file on EVERYBODY."
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If you want people to be concerned about privacy then you're using a bad example. Try coming up with an example with a profession that people respect or care about. Escorts are probably seen as more respectable than politicians. Can't see how you can be less respectable than them.
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Local Town Hall Meeting:
Experts: Hi there, welcome all for coming. We'll be discussing 5G.
Yokel 1: Errrmmm....what's 5G?
repeat for i = 1 to 20 {
Experts: (a paragraph explaining 5G)(i) So, what do you think?
Yokel i: I don't understand 5G, could you explain it again.
}
Experts: So there you have it. What do you think?
Yokel 1: You said this had to do with privacy implications. What do you mean?
repeat for i = 1 to 20 {
Experts: (a paragraph explaini
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How are you going to get FCC approval? Mesh networks don't scale well.
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Actually mesh networks scale very well if you know what you're doing. After 4 hops, there is no more noticeable decrease in traffic speed for further hops.
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If that's so, it contradicts everything I've ever heard about mesh networks. I'm not saying you're wrong, as that's not an area in which I'm an expert, but could you provide a reference?
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If you're serious: http://www.mage-networks.com/ [mage-networks.com].
We're already deploying high speed internet to highly rural areas telcos won't touch, and we require no fixed infrastructure other than the final link to the internet itself.
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There is no written or agreed upon standard for what 5G is. So I have no idea what you're talking about.
Unlimited 5G For Automatons (Score:2)
The machines are going to build networking equipment that will interface with other machines. So humans get QoS and data caps, while the machines get unlimited data usage and the highest prioritization.
You fools, don't you see what this will lead to?!
How 'fully'? (Score:2)
It's not as though hand stuffing and soldering has been an option for big complex boards loaded with fine pitch BGAs and teeny passives for some time now; and a pick-and-place slapping components onto the board while a machine vision camera verifies alignment is already pretty heavy automation.
I'd assume that a setup in a high cost country will have fewer people doin
By early 2020? (Score:2)
The reason they are building in the US (Score:1)
It was mentioned during a town hall that the factory is being built in the US so the components/products built there would not end up on a banned import list. They have spent more than a year moving production out of geopolitical sensitive areas so there would be no impact to their US customers.
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It was mentioned during a town hall...
Well then, that means it must be true.
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It may or may not be true, but it's certainly plausible. Increased automation decreases the advantage of areas with low wages.
Fully automated (Score:2)
Fully automated with 100 workers. Sounds like "self-driving" which requires 1 or 2 "safety drivers" on board. Silly tech companies.
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Its about the jobs people! (Score:2)
Finally we are getting back those manufacturing jobs we so desperately need /s
Hopefully, they are building in Europe as well (Score:2)
Reminds me of Vonnegut's "Player Piano" (Score:1)
"Player Piano" is an increasingly topical story about a small group of people who run a huge, mostly automated manufacturing facility and how it effects the community of people who used to be needed. This story feels a lot like that.
Sony Walkman, fully automated production 1980s (Score:2)
Sony boasted about making the Walkman without human hands long ago. The reckoned that a few of the steps were not actually worth automating but they did so anyway just to make the point.