The Full Photoshop CC Is Coming To the iPad In 2019 (arstechnica.com) 101
The "real version" of Photoshop is coming to the iPad next year, complete with a user interface similar to the desktop application and all the main tools. Ars Technica reports: Photoshop for iPad has a user interface structured similarly to the desktop application. It is immediately familiar to users of the application but tuned for touch screens, with larger targets and adaptations for the tablet as well as gestures to streamline workflows. Both touch and pencil input are supported. The interface is somewhat simpler than the desktop version, and although the same Photoshop code is running under the hood to ensure there's no loss of fidelity, not every feature will be available in the mobile version. The first release will contain the main tools while Adobe plans to add more in the future. Cloud syncing is a key element of Photoshop on iPad. Edits made on the iPad will be synchronized transparently with the desktop -- no conversions or import/export process to go through. Using a feature not available in the iPad version should then be as simple as hitting save and then opening the file on the desktop, picking up where you left off. Adobe is also reportedly building a tablet painting app called Project Gemini, which "simulates real brushes, paints, and materials as well as the interactions between them," reports Ars. "It combines raster graphics, vector drawing, and the Photoshop engine into a single application designed for artwork and illustration."
Cloud syncing (Score:2)
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Learning how to spell losing. That is better!
Come on, be real - $10/month (Score:4, Informative)
You can easily complain about CC (I do) without fabricating things like cost.
I pay $10/month (not $99) and that includes 100GB of storage along with access to the photographic apps (photography plan).
Even for the Full CC suite of apps PLUS Adobe Stock, you are only talking $83/month.
Of course, to me that storage seems so laughably small I would only use it for projects I would then move out of the adobe cloud again. But it's not $100/month as you are absurdly claiming.
$100/month would be absurd. $6,000 for 5 years (Score:1)
$100 / month, $1,200 / year, would be absurd, wouldn't it.
That would be $6,000 over 5 years
> you are only talking $83/month.
> But it's not $100/month as you are absurdly claiming.
Yeah, only $1000 / year. Not $1,200 - that would be absurd.
If I were a freelance graphic designer, it might very well make sense for me to get Adobe. Fortunately there are many free and open source graphics editors that work as well or better for what I do, including some of the same tools used by Pixar and ILM to paint blo
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Re:$100/month would be absurd. $6,000 for 5 years (Score:5, Insightful)
Quite a few artists work on tablets. Most of the ones I know use a Surface, but some use an iPad with other drawing apps.
The advantage of a tablet is that they can hold it any which way, in any comfortable position to draw in. They use the versions with a proper stylus, with thousands of levels of pressure sensitivity.
They get basically the same functionality as a Wacom Cintiq at lower total cost, and it's much more portable.
Re:$100/month would be absurd. $6,000 for 5 years (Score:4, Interesting)
*gasp* You said the 'W' word!
Wacom is still the industry standard for this type of stuff. And I think Apple is going to try and close the gap.
Start off with an iPad version to get the kinks out. Then go full steam ahead and come out with a line of touch screen monitors to directly compete with Wacom.
Several years ago an Apple patent was released for a touch screen monitor. And the design made it so you could slide your iPad into the back of the monitor for recharging and syncing.
Editing on an iPad is a good idea and overdue (Score:2)
No one edits on the iPad. That is the point. The very idea is dumb.
There is no technical reason people cannot edit on an iPad aside from the fact that to date the software for doing that task has sucked to date. Make some better software and problem solved. Nobody is arguing it is the best tool for every job but at the end of the day it's just a computer, barely different from the PCs we've been using. I already do minor edits of photos and video on my iPhone and iPad. I see no reason why anyone could not do more extensive editing with the right software. I could easi
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No, the tablets are used only for consumption for three big reasons:
It's the software, not the hardware (Score:2)
The lack of a physical keyboard makes many types of content creation much less efficient (typing, video editing, etc.).
Which is irrelevant if the content you are creating isn't related to typing. Like I said they should be targeted at replacing paper note pads which would primarily involve fingers + stylus. Laptops already do a more than adequate job of dealing with tasks that require a keyboard for most applications. Yes you can add one to a tablet if needed but trying to make a tablet into a laptop is mostly a fools errand.
The problem with tablets is NOT the hardware. The problem is the (sucky) software which fails to
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The lack of a physical keyboard makes many types of content creation much less efficient (typing, video editing, etc.).
Which is irrelevant if the content you are creating isn't related to typing.
Actually, it isn't. That's the point I was trying to make when I mentioned video editing. A LOT of creative tools make use of the keyboard. In Photoshop, for example, there are very different behaviors in the selection tool, depending on whether I'm holding down shift (add to selection), command (remove from selection), etc. In video editing tools, you hold down keys to rapidly change tools or change the behavior of tools, and you actually use a large percentage of the keyboard regularly, even for fairl
Missing the point and thinking too narrowly (Score:2)
Actually, it isn't. That's the point I was trying to make when I mentioned video editing. A LOT of creative tools make use of the keyboard.
You are thinking that the only practical way to do things is the way we do them currently and are having trouble thinking beyond the mouse/keyboard interface. Function and meta keys are useful but reliance on them in far too many cases is a simple case of the proverbial "if the only tool you have is a hammer every problem becomes a nail". They make use of the keyboard because they have a keyboard to make use of, not because it is necessarily the best way to do a given task. Keyboards are great tools bu
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I wouldn't know much about what's available on iPad specifically, other than seeing that searching for photo editor or grpahics editor in the app store brings up many results.
I had an iPad for three years and never really used it, because I don't see the niche for it. I already have my large phone in my pocket and it can do pretty much anything an iPad can do, without carrying an extra device. If I wanted a tablet, an Android tablet is more flexible, so I haven't had a use case where the iPad is the best f
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But not as large.
I find viewing many documents that are formatted for letter-sized pages is easiest on a device that is large enough to view entire page at once, and at full size.
Huh? Any size you want, from 2.5" to 21.5" (Score:2)
All.iPad models for the last several years are iPad are 9.7". The newest iPad Pro Large is 12.9".
With Android you have a hundred choices, up to at least 21.5" and probably larger. The most popular Android tablet is the Galaxy Tab line by Samsung. The current model, the Galaxy Tab S4, is 10.5". Also popular is Galaxy Tab A, which is 10.1 inches.
You can get an Android tablet in any size you want, the most popular models are a little bigger than an iPad.
That's not to say anything particular Android device is
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The iPad Pro is still an iPad.
And closer to A4 proportions than letter, so viewing letter-sized documents on it maximized to fill its width is no better than on a regular 9.7" iPad... In fact, it's slightly worse... as the Tab S4 is nearly a 1/4" narrower than a 9.7" iPad... The extra height goes to waste for viewing such documents.
That said, I haven't personally handled an S4 yet, so I can only speak to what I know in terms of its physica
Okay, you like a 4:3 aspect ratio, like Tab S3 (Score:2)
That makes more sense. It sounds like it's not so much the *size* you're talking about, but the *aspect ratio*. iPads are 4:3 aspect ratio, most Android tablets are 16:9. That's the ratio of height to width.
4:3 is closer to the aspect ratio of letter sized paper.
There are, of course, some Android tablets that are 4:3, such as the Galaxy Tab S3. Most are 16:9. If you ever find yourself shopping for an Android for whatever reason, Google for 4:3 Android to get the shape that you prefer.
Personally, I like th
Tablets should be more than supersized phones (Score:2)
I had an iPad for three years and never really used it, because I don't see the niche for it. I already have my large phone in my pocket and it can do pretty much anything an iPad can do, without carrying an extra device.
There is a niche for them but it's something of a missed opportunity to date. For example a 10" iPad with a stylus could in principle be the most awesome device for note taking ever. Every student and many professionals could use one and it solves a lot of problems with paper and laptops. Problem is that nobody has written decent software to solve this problem. Believe me, I've looked and nearly all of it sucks. I could easily see tablet's basically being a replacement for the venerable pad of paper i
That workflow is possible now (Score:3)
Given the context of the story I'm curious, which are the free and open source graphics editors that are available on iPad? Do they offer the same sort of seamless mechanism of being able to edit on one device (say your iPad when you're on the go) and then continue editing on another (at your home or office)?
I don't know of any good free image editors (I'm sure there are probably some), but the thing is even the REALLY good professional editors on the iPad are only like $15 or so (like Affinity Photo). Th
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I did see one feature that impressed me. They added a deglare filter in Photoshop that I saw demonstrated using a pho
Still think iPad is consumption only? (Score:1)
There are still people that hold an iPad is for consumption only. The many professional level editing tools already on the iPad should have been an indication this was not the case - but full photoshop on the iPad should put the last nail in the coffin for that notion.
The interesting thing is that performance should be pretty spectacular. More and more Adobe has been leveraging neural networks for editing tasks, and with the new Neural Engine that will undoubtedly also be in new iPads just to be released,
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So I guess you don't know? (Score:2)
Definitely. Because it is Neural.
Are you really so ignorant of image and video editing that you have no idea what Adobe [adobe.com] is [firstpost.com] doing? [thenextweb.com]
Do you even listen to yourself?
No I don't talk to myself, I just post informative information based on what I actually know, from reading, developing, and actually using real world applications.
Maybe you should get out more. Or maybe you are out too much, and that's why the modern digital world is eluding you so badly? I mean, Jesus Christ buddy, your response makes you look l
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32" is nice but not necessary. (Score:2)
iPad editing is I find nicer because of the stylus (and because of all that Affinity Photo can do). When you can zoom in and out so quickly the fact that you don't have a 32" monitor (which I do) does not matter so much... that's why I've taken to editing more photos on the iPad.
The only thing still a bit clunky is iOS file management but they are getting there, very close now.
For batch editing I still use a "real" computer but final edits on selected photos I use the iPad. Also now for travel the iPad is
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Let's see. I could do media editing on my 32" monitors or on a 12" mini screen. Sounds like an awesome workflow.
No you can do it on both and just use the most appropriate form factor for the given situation. I tend not to take 32" monitors (and the accompanying computer and peripherals) with me when I leave my desk.
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I tend not to take 32" monitors (and the accompanying computer and peripherals) with me when I leave my desk.
Yeah, because forward thinking professionals do media editing on the go. "Static" media editing is so very passé. Millennials do not approve it.
I don't know what you mean by "on the go" but certainly I do work in places other than my desk, like when I'm travelling. What's wrong with that?
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In a world where people can and will travel less because of advances in telecomunications I don't see media editing on the go as a expanding market..
That's ok, but now that people are less tied to their desks Adobe certainly does see that as a market worth tapping.
it's hard to imagine people changing their current workflow to acomodate editing on a tablet just because of the weight/size of a notebook with a decent screensize.
That's why they're putting the full Photoshop experience there rather than the parred down one they had. People have been requesting it so now they're delivering it to that market.
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What, has Apple made XCode for the iPad?
Yes, you have a point there (Score:2)
What, has Apple made XCode for the iPad?
Ok, I have to admit THAT would indeed be the very last nail... a lot of us have been calling for that for some time. Frankly some stuff stuff like interface builder I truly feel would be better edited on an iPad with much easier (and working) live previews of custom views...
Swift Playgrounds shows that even code editing can be decent on the iPad.
I'm sure we'll get Xcode on the iPad, at some point, just not sure when. As it is people are already hammering around the
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The iPad's rapid decline [zdnet.com]
Huawei's global tablet shipments from 2nd quarter 2014 to 2nd quarter 2018 [statista.com]
Looks like Apple lost the tablet plot.
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statista is requiring money to see the stats. Is the graph quarterly? What's the numeric value (for the last line, the highest, assuming it is showing me an accurate line without paying)?
Selling only 14 million or so iPads in a quarter doesn't seem bad. Looks like market saturation rather than loss of business due to competition.
At my house we have 2 iPad 3s (kids) and 2 Amazon Fires (adults). I would get the kids onto Fire tablets but we are a bit locked into Apple ecosystem due to purchases.
Very cool (Score:5, Informative)
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I've no doubt the iPad's hardware can handle it (my phone is about 50x faster and has more tha
Re: Very cool (Score:2)
It was just a matter of time (Score:1)
And Paul Allen was the last thing standing in its way.
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Adobe saw the writing on the wall (Score:1)
They knew the MacBook line was going down the toilet.
The iPad is going to be the only way they keep their Apple user base..
IAP -- coming soon to your desktop, too! (Score:2)
The interface is somewhat simpler than the desktop version, and although the same Photoshop code is running under the hood to ensure there's no loss of fidelity, not every feature will be available in the mobile version. The first release will contain the main tools while Adobe plans to add more in the future.
It's not "full desktop photoshop" (Score:1)
If it doesn't have all the features, then it's not really the desktop version of photoshop.
Hmmm (Score:2)
If they keep the GPU acceleration features intact, I can see it eating through an iPad battery in a hurry.
Does that include the background processes? (Score:1)
Kind question (Score:2)
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It died in my world. I'm still using Apple Aperture that I own rather than renting Lightroom, nor have I updated Photoshop past CS6. Eff that.
You keep using that word... (Score:2)
The Full Photoshop CC ...
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
not every feature will be available in the mobile version
GIMP (Score:2)
GIMP is available since a long time.
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Canceled Android version was great (Score:2)
While it wasn't the full PhotoShop, Adobe did for awhile produce versions of PhotoShop for the Android phone and tablet. (Not the silly little red-eye photo editor they call PhotoShop on Android now.)
It had way better functionality than any other image editor I've used on Android, with many of PhotoShop's nicities. It was also surprisingly useful and easy to use with a touch interface, not an easy accomplishment.
I bought both the Phone and Tablet versions (I think they were $10 and $20 respectively), and
Idiotic (Score:2)
painful lack of screen real estate (Score:2)
On a 24" screen I struggle to keep Photoshop's bazillion palettes, panels and whatnot from completely obscuring the artwork I'm trying to draw. On a 9" iPad there'll be constant panning/zooming and switching between palettes.