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Samsung's Galaxy S10 To Come In Three Sizes, With An In-Display Fingerprint Sensor (theverge.com) 85

Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo says Samsung will launch the Galaxy S10 in three different sizes: 5.8 inches, 6.1 inches, and 6.4 inches. They are nearly the same sizes that Kuo expects Apple's next series of iPhones to come in. The Verge reports: The larger two S10 models will include in-display fingerprint sensors, Kuo says, while the smaller model will include a fingerprint sensor on the side. That suggests the smaller model will be Samsung's entry-level offering, while the larger two will potentially have higher-end specs and features. Another recent rumor says the S10 might include five cameras, adding an additional wide angle option to the back and another lens to the front for capturing portrait effects. It's very likely plans will change between now and when the Galaxy S10 launches, which should be early next year. The next flagship smartphone to come from the South Korean company will be the Galaxy Note 9. It's expected to make its appearance at an event on August 9th.
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Samsung's Galaxy S10 To Come In Three Sizes, With An In-Display Fingerprint Sensor

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  • I'm not particularily excited by a new phone, but I have been waiting for the finger print sensors to return to the front. I've got an S7 which is fine but is starting to get a few niggly little issues, I'm sure it'll be fine for another year.
    • I always found the fingerprint on the back to be more comfortable and easy to use.... but having it on the side(s?) sounds possibly useful.
  • One Size (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dohzer ( 867770 ) on Monday July 16, 2018 @09:53PM (#56960752)

    The only size that matters to me is that of the unremovable bloatware. Looks like I'm sticking with a Google Pixel.

    • Re:One Size (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Stormwatch ( 703920 ) <(rodrigogirao) (at) (hotmail.com)> on Monday July 16, 2018 @09:57PM (#56960764) Homepage

      Look into Motorola, they're also good at sticking to near-pure Android with no bullshit.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward

        I second Motorola. I got an X4 to replace my bootlooped 5X. It's nearly the same, but it comes with an SD card slot. Not that it works like I expected, but it is a nice addition. I also love the double chop to turn on the flashlight and double twist to open the camera. I'm surprised no one else has picked those up yet. Unfortunately, it has the fingerprint reader on the wrong side. In-screen fingerprint readers are a waste of time. They belong on the back. A better innovation would be to eliminate the front

        • by dohzer ( 867770 )

          The fingerprint scanner on the Pixel is one of my favourite features. It's so simple and natural.

        • It's nearly the same, but it comes with an SD card slot. Not that it works like I expected, but it is a nice addition.

          What do you mean here? How would you expect it to work, and in what way does it not?

          I also love the double chop to turn on the flashlight and double twist to open the camera. I'm surprised no one else has picked those up yet.

          A few devices use gestures for various things. Double-clicking the power button opens the camera on Pixels, for example.

          Unfortunately, it has the fingerprint reader on the wrong side. In-screen fingerprint readers are a waste of time. They belong on the back.

          Although it would increase cost, I'd like both. A reader on the back for most use, plus an in-screen reader for when the phone is resting on a desk or table.

          Even if you never take selfies (like me) the extra screen would be nice for quick notifications when your phone is face down.

          Why would your phone be face down? And putting notifications on a rear-facing screen would make it easier for the world to see them. The rear-facing

      • by dohzer ( 867770 )

        I'll give them a look. Thanks!

    • by jimbo ( 1370 )

      Good point. I have a Samsung S6 that no longer gets OS updats and when it did the major upgrades were always 6-9 month late.

      Thinking either an iPhone next gen or Pixel 3 next time. My wife's iPhone 5s runs really well with iOS 12 beta so in terms of long term support that's a huge plus. However the Pixel 3 will still be supported for minimum 3 years and I'm thinking it'll be cheaper and the rumored 5.3" screen is about the max size I'll accept.

      • by dohzer ( 867770 )

        I was actually surprised at how little size difference I noticed going from an S6 to a Pixel XL. I was expecting not to like it, but now I'm not sure how I'd feel about downsizing.

      • by Rip!ey ( 599235 )

        Good point. I have a Samsung S6 that no longer gets OS updats and when it did the major upgrades were always 6-9 month late.

        No Oreo cookies for you. Go chew on some yummy (or not so yummy) Nougat instead. The current security patch for a S6 is still 01.03.18 though.

        My S6 is starting to get clunky in use. I can handle the lack of Major updates if it means holding off the deteriorating performance (new battery btw). It's been three years now. It would work just fine as a phone for another two.

        Cheaper (and no-name) phones have fared far worse for updates.

        • I wish I coumd say the same for my Galaxy Tab S. After quitting Verizon after 3 years and running pure wifi, video broke and jumps around, regardless of app (save video through Chrome, but that's almost useless because every sitr forces you to dump into their app even if "desktop site" is on, and all apps apparently use the same underlying video OS service, which is what is broken.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Actually recent Samsung phones have had very minimal bloat, and they let you disable stuff you don't want. It's not perfect but it's not like the old days either.

      They might do a pure Android edition too.

      I guess it depends if you can live with the limitations of the Pixel - no SD cards, no wireless charging, not waterproof, limited selection of cases etc.

      • by dohzer ( 867770 )

        I was originally all for wireless charging, but I found it really didn't cut the mustard when I was after the fastest charge possible.

    • You should like Samsung's unlocked phones then. TouchWiz was redesigned in 2017 and is now called Samsung Experience, and is by far the best custom Android skin. Having used Samsung Experience 8.5 and 9.0 on my Note8 since last September, I'm shocked how fast and lean it still is.

      "But why would you sully the greatness that is Android with a custom sk-"

      Google now change Android's UX conventions every year, culminating in the mess that is Android P, whose phones will feature no less than 5 generations of icon

  • Obligatory.... https://www.theonion.com/fuck-... [theonion.com]
  • by Anonymous Coward
    The most explosive devices in the market from Samsung, a company on fire, that is hell-bent on re-kindling customers' interest and searing the competition.
    • ^^^ This. I kind of thought the "exploding phone" bit would have killed the Galaxy brand, and they'd be hawking the "Quasar" or whatnot by now. Who knew they were still making them?
  • by kiviQr ( 3443687 ) on Monday July 16, 2018 @10:14PM (#56960792)
    ..less expensive, smaller screen so it is considered a phone not a tablet, decent battery that lasts at least 3 days, audio jack, external card?
    • by AHuxley ( 892839 )
      Ask Nokia for that.
    • And bring back the IR emitter while we're at it.

      • And bring back the IR emitter while we're at it.

        I'm assuming you were joking when asking for a feature that you would struggle to find something to talk to. Bluetooth, NFC, WiFi, and cloud options make obsolete data transfer options, obsolete.

        • by Rip!ey ( 599235 )

          And bring back the IR emitter while we're at it.

          I'm assuming you were joking when asking for a feature that you would struggle to find something to talk to...

          ... like the hundreds of thousands of televisions that a mobile phone is perfectly capable of being a remote for?

          Maybe they should remove the stereo jack as well. Maybe they have.

    • by SeaFox ( 739806 )

      ..less expensive, smaller screen so it is considered a phone not a tablet, decent battery that lasts at least 3 days, audio jack, external card?

      Not sure if by "external card" you mean "can add an SD card" or "can change the SD card while the phone remains running" but I would point you towards this [amazon.com].

      • Not sure if by "external card" you mean "can add an SD card" or "can change the SD card while the phone remains running" but I would point you towards this [amazon.com].

        Why not just point towards the Galaxy S9?

        • by SeaFox ( 739806 )

          Why not just point towards the Galaxy S9?

          Because a Galaxy S9 is not "less expensive, smaller screen so it is considered a phone not a tablet", whereas the phone I linked is half the price of an S9 and more than an inch smaller in screen, but still Sony's flagship phone performance-wise?

          Thanks for playing, Sherlock.

          • Wow you really suck at communicating. Ironically that would make you more like Sherlock who was also notoriously bad at making a point.

            • by SeaFox ( 739806 )

              Wow you really suck at communicating.

              The original poster rejects the Galaxy S10, specifically calling out the screen size, price, and battery life, and you think they should buy the previous version of the exact same phone, which features the exact same size screen, will debut in the same pricing segment, and barring a major internal redesign, will have roughly the same battery life.

              I can only assume you either:
              1) Didn't read the OP's wish list for the phone they want, or
              2) Blindly questioned my suggestion, without looking at the specs to cons

              • Except that wasn't your response. Your response quoted a subset of the original message and didn't reply to all of it. Had you not quoted the text or had you quoted the entire requirement list your reply would have been in a very different context.

                The end result is someone didn't understand the conversation. Regardless of how you defend it, someone didn't understand. You failed to communicate properly.

                • by SeaFox ( 739806 )

                  Except that wasn't your response. Your response quoted a subset of the original message and didn't reply to all of it. Had you not quoted the text or had you quoted the entire requirement list your reply would have been in a very different context.

                  I'm sorry, my original reply [slashdot.org] does, in fact, quote the entirety of the original requirement list [slashdot.org]. Did I bullet-point every bit and give my reasoning? No. Because if you follow my link it is apparent why I point out this handset. The price difference is readily apparent, the screen size it right at the top in 18 point type, trumpeting this is one of those (now rare) Android phones with a screen under 5" in size. A scanning of the features list will tell someone versed in phones this is not a cheap low-perform

    • I for one am looking forward to the new Note. I'm 6' 3" and over 40. The bigger screen size is much more comfortable for both typing and reading. My thumbs take up a quarter of the screen for my s7. Though I wouldn't mind a price drop.

  • I dont care (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    And neither should most people.

    For 99% of the population, this new phone does EXACTLY what your old phone did, in almost EXACTLY the same way.

    Oh, your old phone is slow?

    Get a new battery. Yeah, seriously.

    iPhones aren't the only phones that throttle the hell out of themselves when they dont get enough voltage.

    My S7 edge works freaking great with a new battery and Android Oreo. I think I'll keep it for a couple more years.

  • I'd be curious to hear from someone developing products, but I have to imagine at this point Samsung already knows exactly what the S10 will launch as. 6-months doesn't seem like a whole lot of time to create an assembly line, produce tooling, training, secure supply chain, and start stockpiling phones for launch.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Until I can buy one without all the Samsung crapware installed, I'll stick with stock Android on a Google device. Sure, I'll pay more, but I won't have to get popups from some fucking mandatory NFL app. And Google already has all my data. That ship has sailed. But Samsung getting all my data? Go fuck yourself.

  • Here's more info (Score:4, Informative)

    by AbRASiON ( 589899 ) * on Monday July 16, 2018 @11:02PM (#56960870) Journal

    Samsungs Galaxy S10, to come in 3 sizes, all of which will be curved.

    If you'd like a non curved display? We don't care.
    We don't offer it, go away. All flagship phones must be curved.

    Like putting plastic / glass screen protectors on? Screw you.
    Like not accidentally 'palming' your phone when it's in your hand? LOL like we care.

    I've whined for 2.5 years about it now, they lost me. The lack of a tactile home button already sucks, very much. However this forced curved thing? Nope. No more sales from me.

    Screw em.

    • However this forced curved thing? Nope. No more sales from me.

      It's targeted at Millennials who don't remember CRTs and think all that distortion at the edges looks cool. Don't even get me started on phones with a "notch".

      As for dedicated OS navigation buttons going the way of the dodo, blame Google for that. They were the one who started pushing button-less, nearly-all-screen slabs as the future of smartphone design. Pretty much, that's been Google's design language since their inception: hide the shit out of everything = clean, modern design. UIs have sucked ever

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Why can't you put a screen protector on it? They are flexible enough to curve around the display.

      The palming issue affects most phones now that ultra thin bezels are the norm, and was solved years ago with software. Same as palm rejection for large touchpads on laptops.

    • I seem to recall this bragging years ago about how the curved screens could enable people to view and read notifications from the side when the phone is face down.

      Samsung's curved screens, however, seem to do.........nothing?

    • Like putting plastic / glass screen protectors on? Screw you.

      *Looks at the screen protector on my curved glass Galaxy S9* ... I don't understand.

      I've whined for 2.5 years about it now, they lost me.

      They don't care. A lot of people specifically on Slashdot don't realise: The companies don't care. YOU are not their market. You are a single customer, a small minority. Not even a vocal minority but one that hides in ecochambers of online forums pontificating about a "better" phone that won't sit well with the millions of customers out there.

      I'm just happy they haven't completely fallen for the stupid that is notches, missi

    • Samsungs Galaxy S10, to come in 3 sizes, all of which will be curved.

      "We play both kinds of music; country and western!"

    • by Isaac-Lew ( 623 )
      The smallest screen is rumored to be flat:

      "The “Beyond 0” apparently will be a 5.8-inch handset with a flat-screen and a single-lens camera."

      Source: https://bgr.com/2018/06/25/gal... [bgr.com]

    • Samsungs Galaxy S10, to come in 3 sizes, all of which will be curved.

      "Mmmm, whatcha got there?" she askes seductively.

      "It's 5.8 inches and curved!"

  • Why not an In-Display camera too? OLEDs are transparent enough.. just google OLED tv.

    • by pnutjam ( 523990 )
      Too big-brotherish, reminds people of 1984 and the fact they are being spied on.
  • So the three sizes are big, a bit bigger, and a bit bigger again.

    I don't know why they bother.

    Is it just me or is there anyone else out there wondering why in this day and age it's impossible to buy a small phone?

    • Is it just me or is there anyone else out there wondering why in this day and age it's impossible to buy a small phone?

      Apple still offers the iPhone SE, and there are likely quite a few more models available on the Android platform. Guess the question is what prevents you from buying one?

      Believe me I share you frustration with oversized phones and pointless featurecreep creating the need for larger form factors (who needs five freakin' cameras?!?), but there are alternatives available.

    • by Merk42 ( 1906718 )

      Is it just me or is there anyone else out there wondering why in this day and age it's impossible to buy a small phone?

      Higher Numbers = Better Than
      A phone with a 5.8" screen is therefore better than a phone with 4.7" one.

  • At what point do these things become tablets? The largest is .6 inches smaller than their Tab A 7, which is sitting right next to me right now. No way is that a comfortable size for a phone unless you're Shack with an 8 inch thumb span. I have an LG V20 with a 5.7 inch screen, and I think it's about as large as I'd care to go. Maybe the 5.8 with a smaller bezel. The 6.1 inch with no bezel may be about the same size, but don't care for a no bezel phone that can't be put in a protective case. The 6.4 is
    • Since Samsung + Apple switched to a taller aspect ratio, there's been a screen-inches inflation if you actually look at the area.

  • Samsung S series phones are extremely expensive, fragile, laden down with crapware and have poor support. Why would anyone subject themselves to a phone like this? If you're going to waste that amount of money on a soon-to-be-last-gen phone you may as well buy an iPhone - at least there is no crapware on it and the support is better.

    Better yet, buy a mid range phone. There is a vast choice of Android devices some of which are very good indeed and carry all the features most people need anyway.

  • by sad_ ( 7868 )

    5.8 is not small, it's still too big!

    • Add a couple more inches and a keyboard, and you could innovate a whole new kind of device. I think I'll call it "Lap Top".

      Incidentally, today I got my new Nokia 8110 4G, which is a kind of "dumb"phone with great networking, including a Wifi hotspot, which you usually only find on "smart"phones. I want to keep the smarts on a computer I can control, and the phone should be more like a modem. (I need a traditional phone, and I don't want to pay for a separate data plan on a mobile dongle, as I don't use c

  • Smart phone display size chart:

    XXS: 3.5 (I-Phone 1-4)
    XS: 4 (iPhone 5)
    S: 4.5 (IPhone 6-8)
    M: 5 (Nexus 5, Pixel 2)
    L: 5.5 (iPhone 8plus, Pixel XL, Galaxy Note II)
    XL: 6 (iPhone X, Pixel 2 XL)
    XXL: 6.5 (Samsung S10)
    Tablet: 7 (Nexus 7, Galaxy Note 7)

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