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Sex Workers Say Porn On Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappearing (vice.com) 356

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Motherboard: Porn performer Avey Moon was trying to send the lucky winner of her Chaturbate contest his prize -- one of her videos, titled "POV Blowjob" -- through her Google Drive account. But it wouldn't send, and Google wasn't telling her why. "I thought there was something wrong with my file and I got rather worried," Moon told me in a Twitter message. "I had promised this guy his content and he was so good to me. I was panicked because I thought if I couldn't give him his prize, he would feel like he got ripped off and never come back again or worse, he could actually file a complaint with Chaturbate about me and they can take money from me." She's not alone. Six porn performers I talked to and more on social media said that they suddenly can't download adult content they keep on Google Drive. They also said they can't a share that content with other accounts or send to clients. In some cases, the adult content is disappearing from Drive without warning or explanation. The porn performers I talked to started sounding the alarm on Twitter last week. They said that Google Drive no longer seemed sex-trade friendly, detailing error messages and sharing cloud storage alternatives with each other.

When I asked about sexual content being blocked on Drive, a spokesperson for Google directed me to the Drive policy page -- specifically the section on sexually explicit material, which says, "Do not publish sexually explicit or pornographic images or videos.... Additionally, we do not allow content that drives traffic to commercial pornography." Writing about porn and sex is permitted, the policy states, as long as it's not accompanied by sexually explicit images or videos. According to Google, Drive uses a combination of automated systems and manual review to decide what's in violation.
One worker said they've been using Google Drive for most of the last five and a half years but just recently received an error message when sending a video, saying that the item may violate Google's Terms of Service, with a link to request a review. In this case, the video title was explicit, but other adult performers report similar messages when sending content with non-explicit titles. "Some sex workers are wondering if this has something to do with the impending vote on the SESTA-FOSTA bill," reports Motherboard. We now have learned that the Senate has passed the bill.
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Sex Workers Say Porn On Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappearing

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  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:38PM (#56323547)

    I follow a few cosplay people on Twitter, and some have been saying that even files that have no nudity but just filenames that contain explicit terms, are being locked such that they cannot be accessed nor downloaded.

    Some people were storing their ONLY copy of an image on Google Drive, for the cosplayers these may represent the results of expensive photoshoots they paid for...

    I never really got into using Google Drive and I'm pretty thankful I never did. It is absurd that any file you uploaded may suddenly be seized such that you will never see it again.

    • by b0s0z0ku ( 752509 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:42PM (#56323575)

      There's the problem. Don't store your only copy of expensive data on Someone Else's Computer aka The Cloud(tm). At least have a local backup.

      If it's on someone else's computer, they can impose their rules, laws, and religious superstitions on you.

      • by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @02:25PM (#56324137)

        There's the problem. Don't store your only copy of expensive data on Someone Else's Computer aka The Cloud(tm). At least have a local backup.

        It’s irrelevant whether we’re talking about something controversial, or photos from your kid’s christening - it’s simply stupid to keep your only copy on a cloud drive. You’ve got to have at least one backup that’s under your own control. More than one is even better.

      • Backup is only backup if you have it in three different locations, in at least two different formats. Cloud is only one format. Hard Drive (local), CD/DVD, Tape, are all other formats. Everything else is something less than backup. And backups are a bitch to manage, because formats become unusable. Who has a 8 inch floppy drive I can borrow?

    • by slazzy ( 864185 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @01:49PM (#56323943) Homepage Journal
      I guess if you really want to use a cloud service such as google drive, you'll want to use an app that encrypts and changes to numeric filenames.
      • I guess if you really want to use a cloud service such as google drive, you'll want to use an app that encrypts and changes to numeric filenames.

        Thank you, I came here to say this. ^^

        Is Google going to forbid uploading/downloading encrypted (by a non-Google encryption algorithm they have no keys for) numerically-named files on GD now?

        It's time for Alphabet and Twitter/FB to go quietly into that good night. They are enemies of individual liberty.

        Strat

      • I guess if you really want to use a cloud service such as google drive, you'll want to use an app that encrypts and changes to numeric filenames.

        I can see the headlines now: "Tech Site Solves Dirty Download Dillemma, Advises Pornographers to Zip It Up"

    • by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Monday March 26, 2018 @07:23AM (#56327197)

      If Google support won't budge, then I would suggest they file a lawsuit against Google then, and settle the matter in court.

      Google's rule about "Do not publish sexually explicit or pornographic images or videos" --- doesn't say ANYTHING against using their storage service for Private, Non-Published storage of files and selective distribution or sharing between team members.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    than the Left...

  • by theheadlessrabbit ( 1022587 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:40PM (#56323557) Homepage Journal

    And this is exactly why people should not trust the cloud.

    'The cloud' is a fancy way of saying, "somebody else's computer". And they can control what stays on their computer. They control what security (if any) is in place to protect your data.

    These services and companies can not be trusted.

  • by dave562 ( 969951 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:42PM (#56323571) Journal

    It is not clear whether or not those accounts are the free accounts, or if they are paid for.

    I switched from Drive to Dropbox a while ago. I wasn't cool with having a fair amount of important data locked up in a 'free' solution that could be turned off at any time. I'd rather pay the couple of dollars a month for Dropbox.

    • by epyT-R ( 613989 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:53PM (#56323639)

      Just because you pay for it doesn't mean it won't disappear or be subject to content 'shadow bans.'

      • by dave562 ( 969951 )

        I'm not so worried about shadow bans of my spread sheets and family photos.

        If they start banning VeraCrypt containers, then I've got a real problem.

      • by DogDude ( 805747 )
        "Just because you pay for it" absolutely gives you a basis for a lawsuit.

        Generally, if you get something for free, you have no basis for a lawsuit.

        I'm not aware of companies taking things away from their customers without being sued. Do you have any evidence this is a thing?
        • by epyT-R ( 613989 )

          subject to whatever's in the TOS though, right?

          • by DogDude ( 805747 )
            Not necessarily. A TOS or any other contract is only as valid as are the contents of it. Just because a company says, "We can take your money and screw you over" in the TOS doesn't mean that it's enforceable.

            Regardless, you have no basis, whatsoever, if you're using a free service. Basic law 101: consideration [law.com].
      • Just because you pay for it doesn't mean it won't disappear or be subject to content 'shadow bans.'

        No it doesn't, but paying for something does form a stronger legal contract between two parties which makes it far easier to win a court case.

  • by b0s0z0ku ( 752509 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:45PM (#56323587)

    If you need cloud hosting, go with a non-US provider. The US is gradually reverting to a pit of Puritanism and religious zealotry. More evolved societies only worry about what can actually harm people (i.e. terrorist recruitment material), not about the naked human body.

    Seems like violence and gunplay is fine in US media and TV shows, but the moment you see one-fifth of an areola, the Puritans get up in arms.

    • It was the Puritans who started the war on Christmas (or any European festivals). It's thanks to the raucous and irreverent waves of immigrants who arrived later that people in the USA are allowed to celebrate and enjoy themselves.

      I wonder if Google are also blocking images from art and literature that show the naked human form?

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      It's radical leftist feminists who are pushing for porn censorship these days because it "promotes sexual violence" and "objectifies women." The whole religious right puritan push died decades ago.

      I wonder if you even live here.

    • More evolved societies only worry about what can actually harm people

      Like the UK which is about to send a comedian to prison for teaching his joke Nazi jokes or France where Le Pen is about to be prosecuted for sharing pictures of what ISIS does to remind me people to oppose any measure that lets jihad into France?

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  • by goose-incarnated ( 1145029 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:47PM (#56323599) Journal
    Everyone knows how that ends. Everyone who cheers when the big companies clamp down on thinking the wrong thoughts will soon find that no one will support them when they are silenced.
  • I wonder if you can store encrypted files on Drive? If so just email the key to the person you share it with.

  • Don't think for one nano second that your data is private on Google Drive.
  • by PeterGM ( 5304449 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:53PM (#56323633)
    I've been in the hosting market for a while and even though I've never had any directly pornographic contracts to fill I've had some that touch the edges, so to speak. One project I had was for a sex toy seller looking for a website, online transactions, marketing materials etc. I learned a lot in a few days reading T's and C's from hosting providers about what does and does not fly with certain providers. Given that the hosting sphere is basically dominated four or five big players and many thousands of their re-sellers it's not surprising to find that most web content hosts are very adult-theme sensitive. If the big players are against it then so are the vast majority of smaller ones.

    I'd been of the understanding for a long time that Google Drive didn't want adult content on its service. As the title states: I'm genuinely surprised people had been successfully using Google Drive in such a fashion for such a long time by what appears to be a lot of people.

    Ah well, there are alternatives at least. I feel like it would have been nice to tell users about exactly why their content is no longer allowed, but that's far too much for a consumer peon to ask from a faceless & soulless corporate golem.

    Bonus: while typing out that last sentence the word golem flags my spell checker as being incorrect. The word "golem" has the spell check autocorrect suggestion of Google. I'm using Chrome. Irony levels are over 9000.
  • First they banned (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:55PM (#56323643)
    First they banned racists [slashdot.org], and I did not speak out because I was not a racist.
    Then they banned gun owners [slashdot.org], and I did not speak out because I was not a gun owner.
    Then they banned porn [slashdot.org], and I did not speak out because I did not distribute porn.
    Then then banned me, and there was no one left to speak for me.

    This is why if you believe in freedom of speech, you have to protect even speech you find reprehensible. If you do not, you are giving the morality police control over what speech is allowed. Reprehensible speech should be deemed reprehensible because people have viewed or listened to it and deemed it reprehensible. Not because someone in a position of power in government or some company has deemed it reprehensible and prevented the public from viewing or hearing it.
  • Non story. See the subject line.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Excellent google proof file compressors are FREE and LEGAL and trivial to install and use.

    7-zip. Grown up software with constant updates and source code if you want it. Not this pre-packaged, corporate approved shit from apple, microsoft of google stores.

    If you use the software (apps) that come with your OS, you're a fucking cretin. Worse, you help turn the world to shit.

    The most fantastic thing about the computer revolution is that it is a people's revolution. The computer empowers everyone who cares to ma

  • It was Tipper Gore who started it.

    And Dee Snider, Frank Zappa and John Denver who ended it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

  • So encrypt it (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nehumanuscrede ( 624750 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @01:47PM (#56323931)

    If you're going to store anything in " The Cloud ", encrypt the file prior to upload and change the name to something that doesn't make it obvious as to what the file may contain.

    IE: Insane Blowjob while smeared in Green Jello -> Cat Video #3

    This really should be common sense by now.

  • It belongs to Google. They can change the TOS any time they want.
  • I guess it took porn for people to notice that Google blocks file they deem unacceptable. Google have been blocking .exe, .com, .bat and other extensions for years, even if you change the extension. You have to encrypt the files.

  • The ONLY values of using cloud services over an encrypted USB drive on your keychain is the always there/always reliable/easily shared point.

    I also enjoy the auto-cloud sync when taking pictured on my mobile. I guess I'm only allowed to photo "approved" things now eh?

    This move kills every single cloud use case I can come up with.

    Good thing thumbdrives have become such popular promo items. My cloud is on my keys.

  • TOS (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bickerdyke ( 670000 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @05:02PM (#56324829)

    So technically she was in violation of GDrive TOS for 5 and a half years then.

    I'm no friend of Google snooping in your data that you entrusted them with, but with the threat of criminal prosecution for NOT doing it, I can't blame them for following the laws.

  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Sunday March 25, 2018 @11:22PM (#56326079)
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