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Anticipating Samsung's AMOLED Mixed Reality Headset (windowscentral.com) 36

Eloking quotes Windows Central: At an event in San Francisco, HoloLens inventor Alex Kipman outlined the future of Windows Mixed Reality, which Redmond seems to believe is the future of computing. Whether or not it is remains to be seen, but either way, there will be no shortage of Windows Mixed Reality headsets this holiday season, with perhaps the most compelling option coming from Samsung.

The $500 Samsung HMD Odyssey sports dual AMOLED eye displays, complete with a 110-degree field of view. This could potentially make a huge difference in the quality of the Windows Mixed Reality experience for two reasons. First, AMOLED displays can generate deeper blacks and more vibrant colors than your average OLED or LCD screen. Second, all other Windows Mixed Reality headsets we've seen have a 95-degree FoV. The Samsung headset will be more immersive because there will be less dead space in your peripheral vision.

The headset -- which comes with motion controllers -- is expected to launch in one month.
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Anticipating Samsung's AMOLED Mixed Reality Headset

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  • by Stormwatch ( 703920 ) <.rodrigogirao. .at. .hotmail.com.> on Saturday October 07, 2017 @03:41PM (#55328299) Homepage

    Sure, AMOLED gives a great picture - at first. But durability is not its strong suit: as the blue diodes degrade much faster than the others, it takes just a couple of years of regular use for a display to become yellowed.

    • But durability is not its strong suit: {...} it takes just a couple of years of regular use for a display to become yellowed.

      And this is a problem for Samsung how ?

      In the modern era of planed obsolescence where manufacturer expect their user base to throw away the old gizmo and buy a new one every 12 months, nobody gives a fart if the device's display will eventually die after a few years.

      Or at least that what manufacturer are thinking.
      Now whether it does actually makes sense to spend on an expensive mixed-reality gadget, only to throw it away after 1-2 years is an entirely different question that is completely ignored by manufac

      • by 0123456 ( 636235 )

        These things are gen 1.5 devices which will be antiquated in a couple of years and obsolete in a couple more. Most people will have replaced them well before then.

    • Easy fix. Use white ones with color filters.
    • I've got a Samsung Galaxy S with AMOLED screen from 2010 (first year they used it) sitting on the desk next to me (I was prepping it so I could give it to one of the kids as a service-less phone for games). I used it for 4 years before upgrading to a Nexus 5. Opening the white Email app on both phones, the AMOLED screen on the Galaxy S is actually slightly bluer than the IPS screen on the Nexus 5.

      I'm not saying the OLEDs don't wear out. But given how much I used it over 4 years and how well it's held
    • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Sunday October 08, 2017 @03:42AM (#55330061)

      A problem solved several years ago. OLED are now expected to outlive all devices with which they are sold. Not just phone but TVs and upcoming computer displays too. Though that part one is the only one in skeptical about.

      Seriously fading was a problem with first and second generation smartphones and no one has spoken about it since.

      • I don't know why people keep spouting the lie that the OLED problem has been solved. My 2016 Moto Z already has noticeable burn-in after only a year of use. Problem has not been solved and anyone spouting this lie is blindly believing what the manufacturers are telling them. I can't wait to start hearing of all the burn-in/yellowing of the insanely expensive OLED TVs everyone bought in a couple of years.
        • I don't know why people keep reverting to the anecdote is not data fallacy. 2016? Fuck if my phone did that I'd get a warranty replacement for a defective screen.

    • I don't think the blue diode is nearly as big a deal as it used to be [flatpanelshd.com]. Cell phones have been using them for years and I don't see massive complaints about them degrading with a yellow tint. Also, both HTC Vive and Rift use OLED displays and have been on the market nearly 18 months now with no reports (that I'm aware of) of display degradation.

      This might be an issue for OLED TVs because it's more likely you keep them around for 10+ years. Even if the blue does eventually cause problems these HMDs won't be re

  • by Anonymous Coward

    AMOLED sucks, Steve Jobs explained this quite clearly and...

    Oh wait, Tim Cook says AMOLED is the best. Sorry, carry on.

  • Start with code (text) editor windows that can see all the code by moving your head. Add UI controls that show direct links to their response (press) code. Then do a database program showing how information is to be accessed. Visual debugging of an app.

    Yes, you can do all that now - but at five bills, this Samsung VR headset is cheaper than one big 4K monitor.

    Could be an interesting product - Add it as an Eclipse plug in and I'd definitely be interested in it.

    • by 0123456 ( 636235 )

      The resolution of current headsets is too low for dealing with lots of text. I believe the Samsung's resolution is higher, but not by that much.

      Give it a few more years, then try again.

      • by NoZart ( 961808 )

        the Samsung HMD is "reported" to be at this threshhold. The Pimax 8k is definitely usable as a Desktop replacement

        • If it's not a "retina" display, then it's not suitable. Period.

          Even if it were, I suspect the head tracking lag would be a dealbreaker. If everything is swimming slightly all the time, I'm definitely gonna spew.

          I hope that we can have it someday, though. I was fantasizing about this and writing about it over a decade ago.

  • The Specs (Score:4, Informative)

    by DumbSwede ( 521261 ) <slashdotbin@hotmail.com> on Saturday October 07, 2017 @07:49PM (#55329073) Homepage Journal

    Samsung HMD Odyssey (Headset)
    Platform Windows Mixed Reality
    Display Dual 3.5” AMOLED
    1,440 x 1,600 @90/60Hz
    Interface HDMI2.0 + USB 3.0 Interface Bound Cable (4m Length)
    Lens Single Fresnel
    Field of View 66, FOV 110, 6.7X
    IPD 60-72mm Range
    Camera 6 DOF Camera x 2
    Sensor Accelerometer(6 Axis)| Gyrometer(6 Axis )|
    Compass(3 Axis)|Proximity Sensor| IPD Sensor
    Acoustics 2 MIC Support| Cortana|Built-in AKG Headphone
    Control & Function Volume|IPD Adjustment
    Dimension 202mm(W) x 131.5mm(D) x 111mm(H)
    Weight 645g
    Samsung HMD Odyssey (Controller)
    Control & Function Touchpad (Clickable), Menu button
    Windows/Controller power button, Trigger, Thumbstick, Indicator light
    Sensor Accelerometer(6 Axis)| Gyrometer(6 Axis )|
    Compass(3 Axis)
    Battery AA Battery x 2ea
    Dimension 154.2 x 119.1 x 119.1mm
    Weight 160g

    from https://news.samsung.com/us/sa... [samsung.com]

  • which will be slow but wireless and cheap at $200.

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