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Elon Musk Promises World's Biggest Lithium Ion Battery To Australia (cnn.com) 272

Elon Musk is following through on his promise to solve an energy crisis in Australia. From a report: His electric car company, Tesla, has teamed up with a French renewable energy firm and an Australian state government to install the world's largest lithium ion battery. Paired up with a wind farm in the state of South Australia, the battery will be three times more powerful than the next biggest in the world, Musk said at a news conference in the city of Adelaide on Friday. "If South Australia's willing to take a big risk, then so are we," he said. The announcement comes after billionaire entrepreneur Mike Cannon-Brookes threw down the gauntlet to Musk in March, asking if Tesla was serious when it claimed it could quickly end blackouts in South Australia. "Tesla will get the system installed and working 100 days from contract signature or it is free. That serious enough for you?" Musk wrote on Twitter at the time.
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Elon Musk Promises World's Biggest Lithium Ion Battery To Australia

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  • by what about ( 730877 ) on Friday July 07, 2017 @07:22AM (#54762553) Homepage

    I am particularly amazed by the 100 working days.

    I assume is a 24hr working day and does not include all bureaucrat approvals.

    In Italy, you need 100 days just to have the request for planning being considered....
    (Yes, this is one of the reasons we are going down the drain)

    Looking forward for how this "bet" pans out.

    • by Mordaximus ( 566304 ) on Friday July 07, 2017 @08:00AM (#54762669)

      I am particularly amazed by the 100 working days.

      I assume is a 24hr working day and does not include all bureaucrat approvals.

      In Italy, you need 100 days just to have the request for planning being considered....
      (Yes, this is one of the reasons we are going down the drain)

      Looking forward for how this "bet" pans out.

      From the summary "100 days from contract signature or it is free." I assume they would wait to sign the contract until after the bureaucracy has been settled?

      • by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Friday July 07, 2017 @08:34AM (#54762761)

        I'd also expect Tesla to start the state-side work well ahead of that signing, so the post-signature project is more of a 'deliver and install' than 'design, fabricate, test, deliver and install'.

        And given the mass and distances we're talking about, I'd not even be surprised if there were components on Australia-bound ships before the signing, too.

        It'd be a gamble, but a pretty solid one, with a huge publicity payoff.

    • by bug1 ( 96678 )

      Its supposed to be operational for summer, which is 5 and a half months away

    • From one of the articles linked from a reader above, it's 100 days after the signing of the grid interconnect contract with whoever runs the Aussie national grid, not the supply contract with Musk.

      Hope they have a site ready for him, leveling and concreting a section of land can take years. Yeah, yeah, I know Aussie is flat, but not that flat.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 07, 2017 @07:57AM (#54762657)

    THIS is a battery.

  • From TFA Tesla only promised the "worlds biggest". TBH that's pretty easy to deliver. If I was asking I would have instead requested the largest capacity in watt hours with enough actual capacity at the watts/second needed to meet my peak demands.
  • by blindseer ( 891256 ) <blindseer@nosPAM.earthlink.net> on Friday July 07, 2017 @08:40AM (#54762779)

    I like this, this is good news for nuclear power.

    Imagine a Q&A during an announcement of breaking ground on a new nuclear power plant.

    Reporter: Would you care to comment on the recent meltdown at the Springfield nuclear power plant?
    Person at podium: Oh, that was terrible and I feel sad for all those people displaced and otherwise affected. However we've made a deal with Tesla for their new battery backup system so nothing like that can happen here. We'll have enough reserve power on site to run the lights, computers, sensors, fire fighting systems, and cooling pumps for two days.

    People believe new batteries are what wind and solar need to be replace coal and nuclear power. I believe that technology like this will help nuclear power more than it could wind or solar. A lack of a power source capable of running the cooling pumps was what killed the reactors at Fukushima. Chernobyl didn't have such a problem but that was (effectively) an experimental dual use (for energy or weapons production) reactor, it also lacked a protective dome that would be required had it been built anywhere else. Any new reactor would not likely even need a separate power source to shutdown safely but a big battery like this would be very useful for peak load management. It'd also look good to regulators, to the public, and look good for Tesla.

    (Yes, I realize that I typed "power" when "energy" would be (more) correct, I just imagine that's how someone at a podium would speak to reporters.)

    • And again you have no idea what you are talking about. RBMK was not an experimental reactor, reactors of that type have already been running for years before the Chernobyl power plant has even been built. It also was not a dual use design as it is, it simply was built along the lines of previous military reactors because this is what the leading engineer had experience with and because it simply has been faster to scale up an older but already proven desing. You are such an atomic fanboy but don't really kn

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      They actually had battery backup power available at Fukushima and were running the emergency pumps as soon as possible. Initially they were worried that the batteries would run it, but it turned out that damage to the plumbing meant that the water never reached the reactors anyway.

      The damage to the plant is what really prevented recovery.

  • after 1000 charges it should be fun to watch them dispose of the worlds largest poisonous explosive paper weight

  • "South Australia's population of 1.7 million people suffer regular power cuts and energy shortages. In September, much of the state was left without power after a storm damaged crucial transmission lines. Another major blackout happened in February after an unexpected spike in demand due to a heat wave."

    Seem to me solar would be a much better solution than a battery center. Solar on houses, businesses, and strategically placed solar farms. If 1.7 million regularly suffer power cuts and energy shortages I th

  • by s_p_oneil ( 795792 ) on Friday July 07, 2017 @11:30AM (#54763889) Homepage

    Translation...

    Public/external statement:
    "Tesla will get the system installed and working 100 days from contract signature or it is free."

    Private/internal statement:
    "Tesla will get the system installed and working 100 days from contract signature or you're all fired."

  • 100 days... if this means working days, that could be decades in real time in Venezuela. Not sure about Australia.

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