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Chinese Giant Huawei Gets Serious About PC Business, Announces Plans For Global Expansion (reuters.com) 53

Speaking of new laptops, Chinese conglomerate Huawei plans a global expansion into computers, it said on Tuesday, posing a fresh challenge to established PC players in a market that has suffered two years of falling sales volumes and pressure on margins. From a report: At a news conference in Berlin, the Shenzhen-based company introduced its first line-up of three personal computer models, including a 15.6-inch screen notebook, a 2-in-1 tablet and notebook hybrid and an ultra slim, metallic 13-inch notebook. Initially, Huawei plans to target the premium-priced consumer market, competing with Lenovo, HP and Dell, which together sell more than 50 percent of all PCs. To a lesser extent, it will also go up against Apple's high-end, but shrinking, Mac computer business. Huawei's Matebook X is a fanless notebook with splash-proof screen and combined fingerprint sign-on and power button, priced between 1,399 and 1,699 euros ($1,570-$1,900). Its Matebook E 2-in-1 hybrid will run from 999 to 1,299 euros while the Matebook D with 15.6-inch display is priced at 799 to 999 euros, it said. Huawei said it aims to offer the new PCs in 12 countries in Europe, North America, Asia, and the Middle East in early June.
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Chinese Giant Huawei Gets Serious About PC Business, Announces Plans For Global Expansion

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  • To a lesser extent, it will also go up against Apple's high-end, but shrinking, Mac computer business.
    In terms of sales numbers, profits, and percentage of computer sales as a whole, it's getting larger.

    • Although 62% of Apple's revenue currently comes from the iPhone, when I look at the graphs, you're right, it does look like the Macintosh is increasing, not shrinking, in revenue: http://static1.businessinsider... [businessinsider.com]

      Surprising-- from the gabble here on /. I would have thought the Mac was dying, but from the numbers, apparently not.

    • Nobody who wants high end anything at all, will buy Huawei instead of almost any other brand.

      If I want to give up my iPhone, I will probably get a Samsung. If I want to give up my macbook pro, I will probably get a dell xps. If I want to give up my Mac Pro or iMac, I will build a DIY (which in fact, I have to do anyway for VR).

      There is no room in the world for Huawei, they need to go find someone who loves them, preferably somewhere in the convection zone of the Sun.

  • Is that like the Mercury Mistress? [dailymotion.com]
  • A $2000 Chinese designed and built laptop? You might want to knock off a zero.
    • You know, Huawei makes a lot of overpriced stuff like $600 featurephones (maimang 5), yet people are buying them.

      It always puzzled me why Americans dislike buying cheap shit, yet ready to buy the same shit if it is properly marked up to few hundred bucks.

      I used to sell $1 Chinese sunglasses in my student years on ebay for around $100 to $200 each. The only thing it took me was to order them to be silk-screened with madeup random Italian sounding brand names.

      • It isn't just Americans. I don't think Americans are buying Huawei smartphones. But you are right: just go to aliexpress and you will see how cheaply junk has been made in China, and the markup we are paying here in the West.
      • Remember any of those made-up random Italian-sounding brand names?

        • A number of words related to the Centuari republic are vaguely Italian sounding.

          Centuari
          A number of words in Centuari opera, as sung by Londo and Vir while standing in the hallway. (Episode: Knives)
          Brevari (spelling?) a drink from same episode
    • They built Google Nexus phone in 2015. I have their Honor Note 8, shipped direct from China for half price of what it would sell for in US. I am very impressed with quality. If their laptop is not a locked down piece of shit like Lenovo or HP [goughlui.com] than I will line up to get one.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    With backdoors gallore. No thanks

    • And what makes you think non "Cheap Chink Shit" has less backdoors?

      Reinstalling Linux and making sure to monitor all ports for traffic, would be a good start to fight backdoors.

      Windows, iOS and other closed source OS's will intrinsically be less reliable regarding backdoors.

      • Reinstalling Linux doesn't help if you can't trust the hardware.

        Let's talk about American hardware for a sec. Do you know about Intel's Management Engine? There is not just an Intel Inside your computer. The there is another Intel Inside your CPU chip. A computer within the computer. That "management engine" runs an undocumented binary blob. Without that blob, the processor will stop. That chip within your chip can literally control everything on the motherboard and beyond, just like the CPU can.
        • I understand that the HW can have hidden attempts at compromising the whole system.

          HOWEVER, the way I am thinking is the following, and please prove me wrong, if I am wrong!

          1. The OS takes care of all sockets and even low level connections to other IP addresses.
          2. If a HW layer below the OS wants to connect to an outside point, without the OS to know, it needs to have a full network stack available.
          3. Even if 2. is possible and a lower layer is able to provide a what would then be a parallel network stack,

        • The majority of premium non-Apple/Samsung hardware has Qualcomm or Intel Inside (TM). China has a great opportunity to give the finger to western three letter agencies and support FOSS at the same time:

          Mandate that mainland ARM licensees such as HiSilicon, Speadtrum, Allwinner and Rockchip all support Libre/Coreboot and mainline their drivers into the Linux kernel. Taiwanese Mediatek would quickly fall into line too.

          Transparency would go a long way towards eliminating the perception that any Chinese hardwar

      • My computer from an American company says made in China on it so I'm not even sure you can by an all American made computer even if it's assembled here most of the parts are made elsewhere and many in China.

        • An American brand computer or not, doesn't matter anymore.
          American computers haven't even mattered for a long time, and unless you are a Trump supporter, which I am not implying that you are, it doesn't make sense to talk about US made or not, within the computer world.
          Computers is a global industry, and everyone making those, on every level, are dependent on each other.

        • You can assemble your own desktop compute from parts if you like. But yeah most of them will be manufactured at China or Taiwan or South Korea. AMD still manufactures their CPUs in Europe/USA and Intel and Micron still have fabs in the USA but that's about it.

          A lot of the chip design still is made in the USA though.

  • The previous post is about a patent war/partnership between Apple and Nokia.

    Where is "Speaking of new laptops" supposed to fit in?

  • First it was networking devices, then there was PC's. :D
  • by kit_triforce ( 3682453 ) on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @12:36PM (#54470849)

    When my very old Samsung Galaxy S4 stopped working well with modern applications last year, I wanted to find a decent cellphone at a good price, without going to used. I took a chance on the Huawei Honor 8 for $400. It's been a great phone, timely with updates, and more than just another flavor of android running on a Chinese apple knockoff. It's a beautiful and well made device that has served me well. While their earlier software had some unusual features/bad designs, when they moved up to Android 7.0 they abandoned many of their failed ideas and kept improving their software.

    This is not a cheap knockoff company, I'd expect them to easily rival Samsung and Apple in the US, if not pass them entirely for market share.

  • When will the Russians plan a major global expansion into low cost PCs? For that matter, why not all sorts of other consumer electronics with embedded microprocessors? The Asians seem to have these markets already captured.

    America is filled with cheap gadgets that phone home regularly to get updates.
  • Specs are nice, but is Huawei wiling to sell me a machine without Intel ME or its AMD counterpart?

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