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Possible Radioactive Leak Investigated At Washington Nuclear Site (upi.com) 94

Authorities are investigating radioactive material found on a worker's clothing one week after a tunnel collapse at the waste nuclear waste site in the state of Washington. Around 7 p.m. Thursday, Washington River Protection Solutions, a government contractor contractor in charge of all 177 underground storage tanks at the nuclear site. detected high radiation readings on a robotic device that seven workers were pulling out of a tank. Then, contamination was also discovered on the clothing of one worker -- on one shoe, on his shirt and on his pants in the knee area.

"Radiological monitoring showed contamination on the unit that was three times the planned limit. Workers immediately stopped working and exited the area according to procedure," said Rob Roxburgh, deputy manager of WRPS Communications & Public Relations said to KING-TV. Using leak-detection instruments, WRPS said it did not find liquid escaping the tank. "Everybody was freaked, shocked, surprised," said a veteran worker, who was in direct contact with crew members. "[The contamination] was not expected. They're not supposed to find contamination in the annulus [safety perimeter] of the double shell tanks."

Washington's attorney general, urging a federal clean-up of the site, insists "This isn't the first potential leak and it won't be the last."
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20, 2017 @09:31PM (#54457129)

    and three times the planned limit is nothing. Before I quit, we had a scare where the monitors said there was a "major" problem, but it was someone that had an old smoke detector in their backpack that they brought from home that they forgot about. If a smoke detector is considered safe in your home, then having one at a radioactive dump shouldn't be considered a problem, but it was. This is just people being overly cautious.

    • by hey! ( 33014 ) on Saturday May 20, 2017 @10:22PM (#54457299) Homepage Journal

      Sure, but you don't set such limits to detect catastrophes. You set such limits to detect unforeseen circumstances that might, perhaps in rare situations, lead to catastrophe.

      A worker being exposed to harmful levels of radiation is catastrophic. A worker being exposed to a level of radiation that is medically harmless but which should not have occurred is a situation that requires investigation, because that means something about your assumptions isn't quite right. That doesn't mean you ought to panic; in any sensibly conservative procedure you have to accept that false positive concern is a routine event -- as in your story of the smoke detector.

      • When Chernobyl happened the first view days it was kept s secret.
        But then research agencies all over Europe suddenly had problems.

        In my university (KIT Karlsruhe), the institute that had some radio nuclides had radiation alerts for days, until they figured there was no problem _inside_ of the institute but that people were carrying in the"radiation" with their shoes in from outside.

    • it was someone that had an old smoke detector in their backpack that they brought from home that they forgot about.

      They brought an old smoke detector from home to their job at Hanford. Well, they "forgot" about it. Hmmm.

      1. ) Why was it in their backpack in the first place?
      2. ) They work at Hanford. They know that smoke detectors contain a very small amount of radioactive material.
      3. ) They brought it to Hanford, where radioactive material is handled, tracked, and detected.

      I'm not saying that they planned to do anything shifty, but this just doesn't sound "right".

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by TheRaven64 ( 641858 )
        If you work at a site that stores and tracks nuclear waste, then you probably know that a smoke detector contains radioactive materials and so shouldn't be just thrown away. You put it in your backpack to take it somewhere to dispose of safely. You forget that you did it and go into work with that backpack. Not a particularly far-fetched set of circumstances...
        • Except that they are intended to just be thrown away [epa.gov].

          There are no special disposal instructions for ionization smoke detectors. They may be thrown away with household trash, however your community may have a separate recycling program.

          The alpha from Am241 will not be detectable at any distance from the detector even if the metallic/ceramic enclosure is breached. The mean free path of an alpha particle in air is very small [wikipedia.org] - about 5 cm.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I also worked at Hanford. I remember there was a hilarious incidence once, where a spent nuclear fuel rod fell down the back of a co-workers shirt and he only noticed driving home. Anyway, he pulled it out of his shirt and threw it out the window and then it was hit by a kid on a skateboard and fell down a drain, so all's well that end's well...

    • by MercTech ( 46455 )

      Someone goofed pulling an instrument package out of the methyl ethyl nastiness of the tank farms and someone is surprised?
      Why do some people want to portray usual business at a cleanup facility as some sort of world devastating crisis?

  • The insurance should have coverage for prior conditions, not what some folks in Washington, D. C., propose that would prevent coverage for the worker in some situations.
    • Three times the allowed limits. Hmmm....

      Chances of cancer from same? Zero. Three times the allowed limits (unless they've changed the limits a lot since I was paying attention 30 years ago) is less than one chest X-Ray....

      Now, if they'd sustained that level for a whole year, that might be an issue. But a one-time, short-term exposure only three times the limit? Meaningless....

      • by Mr.CRC ( 2330444 )

        You have probably noticed that all news about such matters in the USA almost never contains any technical data that can be used to make an actual, informed assessment of its significance. Even worse, it is usually presented in a form such as "3 times higher than normal!!!" or some such jibberish because while meaningless without further information, a scientifically illiterate populace is easily swayed by the apparently alarming fact.

        All "news" is psyops/manipulation at this point.

        • "Even worse, it is usually presented in a form such as "3 times higher than normal!!!" or some such jibberish because while meaningless without further information, a scientifically illiterate populace is easily swayed by the apparently alarming fact."

          Compounded by memories of radiation injuries to the general public which WERE caused by people playing fast and loose with (lack of) safety standards.

          Not just the radium girls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] but also ill-advised "pedoscopes" - https://en.wik [wikipedia.org]

  • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Saturday May 20, 2017 @11:44PM (#54457523)

    As a superhero in training, I've licked every part of that nuclear site to expose myself to radiation and while one puddle made my teeth feel warm, I still don't have any superpowers, so I would say it's a safe bet that this is a false alarm. It's unrelated but does anyone know a good dentist? Because my teeth recently fell out. ;)

  • by seven of five ( 578993 ) on Sunday May 21, 2017 @12:07AM (#54457577)
    "Radioactive waste" doesn't tell me much. What are the nuclides, how many curies?
  • Pants... (Score:4, Funny)

    by Tomahawk ( 1343 ) on Sunday May 21, 2017 @10:13AM (#54458951) Homepage

    Outside of the North Americas we use the word "trousers", with "pants" refers to underwear. So seeing a phrase like "radioactive material was found on his pants" tends to raise some eyebrows...

    • by Anonymous Coward

      It's actually funnier how is written here: 'contamination was found ... on his pants...'

    • That is why they included the small print: at his knee :D

    • > "pants" refers to underwear

      Only in the UK. The rest of the english-speaking world uses the same sense as the USA does and "underpants" for what you call pants. (and what you used to call underpants as recently as 30 years ago)

      • Well,
        the only american girl I talked to about this matter, actually she is african, but made college in the states, referred to them as "panties".
        And in Asia they seem to prefer pants and panties over underpants, too.

  • Yes sir, I can see that this nuclear storage thing is going to end well!
  • Well, I guess they have no way of knowing : P

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