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PlayStation Now Will Bring PS4 Games to your PC (engadget.com) 84

You could soon play PlayStation 4 exclusives like Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us Remastered on your PC. From a report on Engadget: Sony is bringing the PS4 catalog to its streaming game service PlayStation Now, the company said today in a blog post. The announcement is light on details, but we know that every game in the service, including PS4 games, will be part of a single PS Now subscription.
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PlayStation Now Will Bring PS4 Games to your PC

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  • less control!

    Oh man thank you so much, please try again with services where you get 100% of the hardware and software and we just funnel money to you.
    That way you can eventually charge per hour of a game played instead of just buying the game and playing it for as much as you want.

    Thats like the unlimited data scams. What, you're losing profits over people who play your game for 400 hours vs those who play for 20 hours and need to charge these heavy users more money since they're getting more out of it?

  • by gravewax ( 4772409 ) on Monday March 13, 2017 @04:42PM (#54032497)
    streaming games SUCK, the latency, resolution sacrifices and bandwidth requirements make all but the simplest games problematic. This turd needs to be left on the PS where it belongs.
    • by JustNiz ( 692889 ) on Monday March 13, 2017 @05:04PM (#54032655)

      I totally agree with you but I strongly suspect that most games companies see this as the future, and that the days of actually having your own copy of anything are numbered.
      We're already seeing the same thing happening with the popularity of streaming audio vs. locally stored music, despite all the obvious downsides.

      • by mjwx ( 966435 )

        I totally agree with you but I strongly suspect that most games companies see this as the future, and that the days of actually having your own copy of anything are numbered.

        It doesn't matter what the games companies think, it's what people are willing to buy that matters and the PCGMR definitely wont be buying streaming only games. Filthy Console Peasants may put up with it for a while.

        Anyone who thinks Ubisoft, EA, et al. are too big to fail... remember THQ. They went bust in 2013 (so console players may not remember them) and all of their properties were sold off for pennies on the pound. I predict the first company to try to go all streaming will be the next to fail.

        • by JustNiz ( 692889 )

          > It doesn't matter what the games companies think, it's what people are willing to buy that matters

          I will bet you that most people (especially most console gamers) desperate to get their hands on the next release in their favorite series of "Total Death War XXIIIIIII" will still buy it even if it is only streaming. Sure many might moan but they'll still hand over their money especially if the graphics they are streaming have more complexity than their (local) console hardware could render. You know thei

    • by Sark666 ( 756464 )

      Have you actually tried it? It works really well. I used this because I always wanted to play the last of us and ended up checking out quite a few other games on the ps3.

    • by mjwx ( 966435 )

      streaming games SUCK, the latency, resolution sacrifices

      Basically it's like playing on a console.

      bandwidth requirements make all but the simplest games problematic.

      Even browser game load themselves into your browser and run locally.

  • Hardware? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by JustNiz ( 692889 ) on Monday March 13, 2017 @05:01PM (#54032621)

    Would it be reasonable to assume they actually don't have racks of PS4s and robots running around plugging in DVDs everytime someone requests a different game? I'm guessing they are running a (very good) PS4 emulator on server-grade (say Intel/nVidia/Linux) platforms.
    If so, it makes me wonder what it would take to get our hands on said emulator.

    • It might just be custom hardware. A version of the PS4 that connects to a remote array that serves up game images. It wouldn't be hard for them to have something like that made.

    • PS4 is x64 FreeBSD, why would you need an emulator? All you need is the right libraries for a runtime environment.

    • PS4s don't run games from discs. They only use them for installation and authentication purposes.

      • by JustNiz ( 692889 )

        I know. I have a ps4. I guess rather than "Disks are dead" they would acutally use something more like "installed games are now dead", but it doesn't make as catchy a headline and besides I'm sure you get the point.

  • by MrNiceguy_KS ( 800771 ) on Monday March 13, 2017 @05:02PM (#54032629)

    I don't have a Playstation, but this may be the push I need to take over the PSN account someone named Jared set up using my gmail address. (Apparently Sony's account setup process doesn't have a "Click the link we emailed you to verify you actually typed the address correctly," step.)

    More disturbingly, neither does Match.com. (Disturbing due to how your inbox looks 4 hours after a 62-year-old woman signs up for a dating service using your email account.)

    • I just recently was given a PS3. Went to sign up for an account and someone else used my email address. There is no undoing it. They won't send a reset to that email account. They won't undo it from the other account.
      • The hell they won't I just did it like 3 months ago. Go to lost username, it will ask for email enter email to get username. Than go to lost password and enter username and email and retrieve email with reset link. Their account is now yours as they have no access to the email address. Now that being said they can call Sony and give them their bank info that was used for any psn purchases and recover the account that was but that would then reset the email address and you would no longer need to worry.

  • PCs don't have the ultra-fast super-advanced PS4 processor in them.
    How will they cope with the processing power required for such advanced graphics?!

    • by GNious ( 953874 ) on Monday March 13, 2017 @05:26PM (#54032803)

      That's OK - According to ca every PC gamer I've met in the last 4-5 years, you can buy a PC with much more CPU power, much more GPU power, a lot more RAM, SSD storage and better everything else, for less than the cost of a (latest) Playstation.
      Oddly enough, you don't even have to ask about it or anything - just mention that you have a console, and they'll explain the cost-advantage of owning a PC faster than a gluten-allergic vegan will say the word, "like".

  • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Monday March 13, 2017 @05:23PM (#54032781)

    If we're being honest here, both the PS4 and XBox One are just a compact PCs with unimpressive specs. The only difference is they come with a specialized OS and proprietary software. It seems to me that with a modern x86_64 chip (since they have built-in VM capabilities) that it should be entirely possible to run games for either console at their native speed on most desktop computers. This is why I could never bring myself to get either system, they are shitty computers without any real special features.

    • You're right of course. But there's a big advantage to bringing a box home that just works, and plays games, and that's all. They work in a lounge context, they're fairly quiet, they turn on really fast, the software is specifically designed to be used with a controller, pairing controllers works really well. Etc etc.

      Specs are very far from the whole story. No-one really cares about them. PS one games are still pretty fun to play, even though the resolution is awful.

      • You just named everything my pc does better and faster than a console. Including boot up(I never turn it off anyways) and controller pairing(steam controller is awesome) and I'm not locked down to proprietary bullshit expensive headsets and other peripherals. I understand for most a console is good for not having to be technically advanced. But anybody that calls themselves a nerd that owns a console for a reason other than to play games with their non nerd friends is stupid.

        • Including boot up

          Rest mode

          and controller pairing(steam controller is awesome)

          On the PS4 all you do is hit the PS4 button.

          I'm not locked down to proprietary bullshit expensive headsets and other peripherals.

          I don't know where you got the idea that console headsets are proprietary. The PS2 used standard USB headsets.

          The PS3 used either usb or Bluetooth.

          The PS4 uses either USB or analog.

          If you want to use a keyboard you can use whatever USB (or bluetooth one you want)

          If you want to use a HOTAS with War Thunder you can use whatever Saitek or Thrustmaster one you want.

          But anybody that calls themselves a nerd that owns a console for a reason other than to play games with their non nerd friends is stupid.

          I run Linux, I think people playing games on Windows are the stupid ones.

          • Standby is not a full boot you run Linux you should know this. I run Windows to game because the game deva don't care about Linux yet hopefully steam changes that. Steam controller turns on the same way the ps4 and Xbox controllers do. But my steam controller links in about a quarter of a second which even surprised me when I got it. I'm an avid Linux user myself. And you know exactly what I was getting at. You just wanted to be argumentative

      • by mjwx ( 966435 )

        You're right of course. But there's a big advantage to bringing a box home that just works, and plays games, and that's all.

        And if consoles still did that, it'd be great.

        I watched my housemate set up a multiplayer game of FIFA on the PS3... it reminded me of the 286 days because things just took that long. He needed log in (mandatory), then register guests, set up controllers, then loading took so long they needed to put in a mini-game to prevent people from getting bored. I could have gone to my PC, b

        • And if consoles still did that, it'd be great.
          I watched my housemate set up a multiplayer game of FIFA on the PS3...

          The key word in that statement is "PS3", things are more streamlined on the PS4 where everything is more unified.

          I can hear the fans in my housemates PS4 from another floor.

          Fat PS3's are louder....he probably doesn't have it well ventilated or else it has dust/cat hair in it.

          Which lacks the precision of a KB and mouse. I mean you don't have a choice of controllers at all.

          Sure we've got a choice, it just depends on the game. Supporting mouse+keyboard (or other controls) on Playstations is a developer choice, not Sony's. I've got PS2/PS3/PS4 games within 10 feet of my current position that DO support various control methods.

          Works so well on my housemates PS4, he sometimes does it twice.

          Perhaps your "mate" doesn't know ho

    • If we're being honest here, both the PS4 and XBox One are just a compact PCs with unimpressive specs.

      A simple bit of reading on the wikipedia page for ps4 would tell you that it's not just a PC with unimpressive specs. The main difference (and the main reason it'll be very difficult for any PC to emulate at reasonable speed) is that the 8-core CPU & the GPU share 8gb of GDDR5 ram. The new 8core ryzens combined with faster pcie specs and ddr4 system ram might help PCs catch up but anything written for the PS4 will run like shit on a high-end gaming PC for (uneducated guess here) at least another 5 years

      • Gddr5 is just ddr3 focused at gpu's I wondered what the difference was when I got my gtx1070. Was very impressed at how they make it seem so different when in all honestly it's the same. And not even latest. But HBM will be around before they switch to ddr4 and call it super duper gddr5

    • That's not really true, the hardware in ps4 and Xbox one is highly customised, for instance Xbox one's APU has on die high speed dram, and the ps4 has an additional BUS that allows the gpu to directly address the cpu's L2 cache, to speed up gpu compute. There are many other differences as well if you care to look. If you wanted to run ps4/xb1 exclusive software on a pc you would need a very complicated software emulator and a powerful enough computer to overcome the missing hardware. Just because they are
  • I like the older days when you purchased a disk. You owned it. I don't care how good the brand new games are, If they are going in the direction of subscription it ends here.. Games like Witcher are fun,, Allen Wake was great. And as far as I can find on these games, you can play it on PC. Allen Wake 2 died before being delivered for some reason.. Sad..
  • Wish developers, including Sony-owned subsidiaries, would just port their PS exclusives to PC instead... I'd buy a PC port released on Steam or GOG, but not a PS Now subscription.

  • I'm just sitting here waiting for a PS4 emulator for PC. Already have a somewhat working PS3 emulator called RPCS3. Also who enjoys cloud gaming? Communists, that's who!

  • Exactly as you said in comments here: https://games.slashdot.org/sto... [slashdot.org].

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