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Intel Hardware

Origin PC's Custom, Professional Overclocking Will Push Your Kaby Lake Chip Past 5GHz (pcworld.com) 94

An anonymous reader writes: Intel's new Kaby Lake desktop processors may not be huge improvements over their Skylake predecessors in terms of raw speed, but they've got it where it counts in one enthusiast-friendly area: overclocking. Now the high-end custom PC builder Origin is putting its (and your) money where its mouth is. Origin's has offered professional overclocking as a $75 option in its systems for a while, and now the builder is touting that Kaby Lake desktops chips will go up to -- and potentially over -- the 5GHz barrier. Hot, hot, hot, hot damn. Intel's chips haven't hit such lofty heights since the Sandy Bridge days and the Core i7-2600K. Since then, Intel's processors usually tap out around the 4.5GHz mark. While the current wording for Origin's professional overclocking doesn't guarantee a set frequency due to the silicon lottery -- promising only that "Origin PC's award winning system integrators will overclock your processor and squeeze out every last megahertz" with every overclock "stringently tested and benchmarked for ensured stability" -- the company must feel darn confident to market that 5GHz number in big, bold numbers in a press release.
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Origin PC's Custom, Professional Overclocking Will Push Your Kaby Lake Chip Past 5GHz

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 05, 2017 @01:54PM (#53612025)

    Aaaand it's Slashvertisement!

  • by Junta ( 36770 ) on Thursday January 05, 2017 @01:55PM (#53612035)

    4.5 GHz is not only achievable, it's actually a speed i7-7700k will run stock, air-cooled in turbo mode. So 5GHz on Skylake would have been about a 20% improvement over stock, on Kaby Lake it's 10%.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      4.5 GHz is not only achievable, it's actually a speed i7-7700k will run stock, air-cooled in turbo mode. So 5GHz on Skylake would have been about a 20% improvement over stock, on Kaby Lake it's 10%.

      We could make sell these things rated for 6GHz if we wanted to, but we wouldn't rate them to survive more than a couple of years.

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  • The last time I overclocked a processor was an Intel Pentium (Socket-7) from 133MHz to 200MHz (IIRC). I haven't overclocked a processor since then.
    • Actually things have moved on... Now you just press the "Turbo" button on the front of the tower case... ;)
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Last I did was the almighty Celery 300a OC'ed to 450 on an Abit board. Good times!

    • The main bottleneck now days is seldom the CPU. Now it's more about storage speed, GPU, RAM, and bus limits. Some of the gains IMHO aren't really worth it. Instead of 145FPS with everything on... it's 153 FPS!!! W00t!11!1!!11! Who cares if my eyes can't tell the difference or the display can't keep up! :P
      • There are computing applications that will consume all the single-thread performance you can possibly throw at it. If you gave me a Terahertz workstation, i could utilize it, today, now. There is a whole GALAXY of applications that are bound by single thread perf.
      • For most applications faster RAM gives very small overall speed improvement. A fast GPU is good for gaming and for those very few applications that do parallel math on the GPU.
        • I meant more of the size 4GB vs 8 GB vs 16GB etc, then the speed and latency of RAM. ;) I agree with you that the RAM speed will give you a very small speed improvement.
      • Unless you're running Dolphin (Wii emulation). It can use up to 3 cores, but it's mostly limited by the single-core speed on the main thread. 10% isn't much, though.

  • I would have expected there might be some trademark issues between EA and these guys, especially since both seem to be related to gaming on PC's (and their logo's are somewhat similar in terms of being swirly circles).

    Domain-wise, it looks like origin.com was first (Dec 1993 VS Apr 2009)

    • by Holi ( 250190 )
      Interesting, I wonder who EA bought that domain from, EA's origin was launched in 2011, so Origin PC has had the name longer (2009 v 2011).
      • by halivar ( 535827 )

        Origin Systems was a game studio EA purchased. They produced Ultima, Wing Commander, and System Shock. They were absolutely awesome and I loved everything they did prior to EA buying them. Then they ruined both Ultima (with Ultima IX) and Wing Commander (with Privateer 2), and shuttered the studio. It's one of the many corpses of once-great game studios EA as left in its wake.

    • When I first saw the article I immediately thought "EA" and was ready to come on here and say: "there is sure as hell no way I'd buy any PC related to EA after all their spyware, and DRM debacle that disabled people's devices".

      Rather an unfortunate name. I wonder how many people won't even look at Origin's products because they think it's related to EA.

  • by hackel ( 10452 ) on Thursday January 05, 2017 @02:17PM (#53612177) Journal

    Can anyone name a single real-world benefit of doing this? Even in the gaming world, are there any cases in which this would change anything at all? This just seems like something people do "because they can." Which is cool and all, but not worth paying extra for.

    • by oakgrove ( 845019 ) on Thursday January 05, 2017 @02:25PM (#53612241)

      I'm not sure myself. I have a 3570k Ivy Bridge system for when I feel like some gaming (not often these days) and for a while I had it up to 4.5 GHz. Everything seemed smooth, but one day it overheated so I just said to hell with it and went back down to the stock 3.4. Lo and behold I could not tell the difference. Games had about the same frame rate and the overall system felt just as responsive. Maybe you have to be at the edge of the CPU performance envelope and typical video gaming just doesn't do that yet. BTW, I game on Linux and Windows and I noted this on both sides.

    • by marklark ( 39287 )

      Bitcoin?

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Not a chance. Specialized hardware is required these days.

      • Bitcoin?

        No one mines Bitcoin on CPUs.

        No one who pays a powerbill anyway.

    • A faster processor, sure, who wouldn't want one? Would most people notice the difference? Probably not, day to day it would be a micro second saved here and a microsecond saved there.

      Would I pay way over the odds to save microseconds here and there?

      No. But it's still nice to have a faster CPU for the 1% of the time it actually would save noticeable time. I assume gamers would want one, although the GPU is probably the most common bottleneck for games.

    • Hear, hear. I'm just contemplating the heat increase in my little Kaby Lake-powered laptop. No thanks.

    • Even in the gaming world

      Nope. Games are not generally CPU constrained. I can think of others, video, photographic etc, but games will likely see a speed boost form GPU overclocking only.

      • I disagree with this, it's only really the case for FPS games. The likes of Factorio and Cities:Skylines are CPU bound.

  • They shoud get confirmed clocks and sell different grades accordingly. It used to be said that parts at different clocks may have failed tests at higher clocks back in the day.
    • Right way of generating more profit for them. It's a lottery and they are running the casino.

  • Ehh, so what are they offering? For extra $$, I'd expect an integrator to cherry pick the CPU's they get to provide me with one that can do 5GHz (which is not that huge of an overclock anyway, I mean I was around during the Celeron 300A era!), otherwise they are offering nothing. There is no such thing as "professional overclocking" when we are talking about a simple air-cooled system that lets you control clock speed and voltage, you simply try to go higher and run a benchmark to check stability and it all

  • For the last ten years or so overclocking hasn't really been much use, it's more of a showing off thing. So why buy it? If you buy it what's the point? DIY and then you get bragging rights, buy it and you get... a pretty hefty bill for little gain.
  • Will take the AMD ZEN with more PCI-E lanes maxed out for same price or less.

  • If you have confidence in this, then provide me with a warranty to replace and/or refund. I'm not talking about 90 days either, at least a year, preferrably 3. Any idiot can overclock something, it takes a bit of skill to do so and have it sort of work, and a whole lot of skill and engineering for it to be robust.

  • Origin's has offered professional overclocking as a $75 option

    Dear chappie, you appear to have been leaving out jolly old thing that is belonging to Origin.

  • Overclocking 33mhz 386 to 40mhz was a solid bump in practical productivity. In what work or fun activities will CPU be a bottleneck in this case? Are GPU, RAM, flash and so on speced and overclocked to accommodate increased CPU speed?

    I can imagine solving an NP-complete problem for which no parallel algorithms are known. For everything else, multi GPU setup or a box full of inexpensive compute sticks will probably provide better bang for the buck. Games and productivity apps are usually written to avoid ser

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