Tesla Updates Autopilot To Make It Follow the Speed Limit On Roads (electrek.co) 162
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Electrek: Before a recent update that is being gradually pushed to Tesla owners, the automaker allowed its Autopilot to be set at a higher speed than the speed limit on all roads where the driver assist system could be enabled, but now Tesla is pushing a new update to make Autopilot follow the rules of the road more closely. Owners of Tesla vehicles equipped with Autopilot have, up until now, been able to set the speed of the Autopilot's 'Traffic-Aware Cruise Control' feature to up to 5 mph over the speed limit on roads and non-divided highways. Now they are restricted to following the speed limit exactly, without the 5 mph leeway. On highways, the speed limit doesn't have a direct effect on the Autopilot's speed. The speed is still limited by the Autopilot's overall 90 mph speed limit. Every time Tesla introduces new restrictions to its Autopilot system, it gets a mixed response from owners. While the new restrictions are often coming from the aspiration of making the system safer, some owners always see them as taking away capabilities that they already had and had paid for. With the introduction of the software update v8.0 in September, Tesla introduced a more aggressive "Autopilot nag," which prompts more 'Hold Steering Wheel' alerts.
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Can you stop your Tesla from applying updates or does it follow the Windows 10 model?
Re:Question (Score:4, Informative)
Each update must be acknowledged and scheduled for installation by the user, although theoretically there might be a backdoor way for them to remotely install updates without user consent. If you ever go a Tesla Service Center you'll need to remember to tell them not to install software updates for you (since they will commonly do that as a courtesy).
However, there will also be a point where features in the older software versions may no longer be supported and capabilities may degrade, particularly if Tesla's server-side communications specific to those older versions are discontinued, particularly around the navigation features. The Tesla Service Center may also say that they are logistically unable to fix or support some issues without upgrading to a current version.
Re:Question (Score:4, Insightful)
IMHO it just seems like yet another reason to not buy a Tesla.
Opensource on Github ! (Score:2)
IMHO it just seems like yet another reason to not buy a Tesla.
Oh, come on! This is Slashdot !
Fixing that for you:
it just seems like yet another reason to start our own "GNU OpenAutoFahrer" !
We should register a GitHub repository like *right now*.
And be ready to fork it as "LibreAutoFahrer" after 2 year due to creative dispute in the developer community.
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Why name it in German? that seems really random.
parodying OSS names (Score:2)
I know I shouldn't explain the joke, but....
Why name it in German? that seems really random.
Because :
Makes sense (Score:5, Interesting)
I imagine this is just Tesla deciding it didn't want the legal liability, should a speeding Model S hit a bicyclist while going over the speed limit.
Do Tesla owners have a way to prevent updates from being applied?
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Pretty sure it isn't enforced the moment the driver actually, you know, DRIVES.
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Do Tesla owners have a way to prevent updates from being applied?
I hope so. I also hope we can then demerit drivers who don't apply the update for the specific purpose of breaking the law.
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Not all jurisdictions consider slightly being over the speed limit to be a violation.
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Here in so-cal, if you're not doing 10+ over the speed limit (80 in 60-65 usually)
A comedian, eh? And a funny one, at that. Southern Californians driving over the speed limit! That is a good one.
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I've only driven a few times in SoCal (I'm an Aussie), but we've passed police every time watching the freeway not giving a damn that the traffic is freely flowing at 70-75 mph.
I've lived here 35 years, and the part I'm having a hard time not laughing out loud at is the idea of traffic moving that fast. The last time I drove from LAX to Orange County, about 40 miles or so, it took 4 1/2 hours. Granted, it was rush hour, but it's very rare that speed limits matter at all.
I think that's a sensible attitude to have in regards to where their time should be spent.
More likely, they were just too stunned at traffic moving that fast to have any idea what to do.
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Go to Canada or Mexico so that it goes into data roaming mode.
The next update... (Score:4, Funny)
The next update will make the car drive in the left hand lane with the turn signal on.
Traffic Tickets (Score:5, Interesting)
Maybe a dumb question (I have no idea) but is there any data on how many and type of traffic tickets have been issued to Tesla owners running on autopilot? Curious.
Re:Traffic Tickets (Score:4, Informative)
I can imagine they are few. The Autopilot works best on motorways and if the autopilot can be set to a max 5mph over the speed limit a cop or speed camera won't give it a second glance. It's also better at not tailgating and does a pretty damn good job of not driving dangerously from my admittedly limited experience.
Re: Traffic Tickets (Score:2)
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I can imagine they are few. The Autopilot works best on motorways and if the autopilot can be set to a max 5mph over the speed limit a cop or speed camera won't give it a second glance. It's also better at not tailgating and does a pretty damn good job of not driving dangerously from my admittedly limited experience.
Yeah, most place has an semi-official 10% tolerance margin.
Is this always the safest? (Score:5, Insightful)
My grandfather always told me that the safest drive speed is the one that follow the traffic.
I got this example in my city (and I'm sure most of you can relate) of some big, perfect straight highway with 5 lanes where the maximum speed is crazily set at 70 km/h (45 mph). And, as you can guess, everyone, even the slow lane, goes over 100.
In my opinion, this is where corporate responsibility have entered too far in personal responsibility, kinda like I don't want my GPS to start an alarm and stop working if I go over the limit. So if there's an accident related to high speed where the user have set the speed over the limit, it's the driver's fault.
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This is a case where Tesla is trying to discourage people from using Autopilot on undivided roads. The current autopilot system is not really designed for the way people are using it. It does not detect stop signs or red lights. It is designed mostly for divided highways. The next generation, Autopilot 2.0, is designed with undivided roads and full autonomous driving. All of the currently shipping cars ship with the hardware for this but lack the software which is still under development.
If you want to driv
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If you want to drive above the speed limit on undivided roads, don't use autopilot, it's as simple as that. Nobody is forcing anyone to use it.
Of course nobody is forcing me, I'm one meaningless person, nobody care if I use it or not.
My point is, if everyone deactivate the feature because they don't like driving slower than everyone else on the highway, how will Tesla accumulate autopilot date and hour to progress this tech?
And I wonder how many accident will happen because the Tesla is thinking there's a working zone at 70 km/h while it was actually finished and people are driving 120 km/h. Sure it's that guy's fault for driving fast, but nobody
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They can accumulate data with autopilot turned off. The hardware is not designed to fully handle undivided roads which is why they're doing this. The new hardware and the next major release should fix that, but not for cars manufactured before October 2016. More data from the older cars won't help when they lack the necessary sensors.
Road kill! (Score:2)
Any vehicle in Florida doing the speed limit -- even in the "slow lane" -- the far-right lane -- will become roadkill.
Tesla, the best thing you could do is adaptive cruise. Just go with the flow, man...
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The solution is to actually ENFORCE the rules, not discard them.
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True enough, if the rules serve some useful purpose (other than serving as an excuse to ticket people). If, however, it's safer driving at 110 mph (175 km/hr) than at 65 mph (110 km/hr), then perhaps the rules should be discarded in favour of the safer (but higher) speeds.
And, FWIW, yes, I also live in a place where driving the speed limit will get you killed, since most traffic is going considerably over the speed limit most of the time. Ac
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This. I recently retook Ontario's driver's licence test, as I never got my full drivers license and it had run out years ago. And they have changed so much. Even the official driver's handbook states that you are supposed to go the speed of the other drivers.
How does it know? (Score:2)
What happens if this is interfered with?
I'm struggling to see how any customer could consider this a good thing.
Re: How does it know? (Score:2)
I can't drive 55 (Score:3)
One foot on the brake and one on the gas, hey!
Well, there's too much traffic, I can't pass, no!
So I tried my best illegal move
Well, baby, black and white come and touched my groove again!
Gonna write me up a 125
Post my face wanted dead or alive
Take my license, all that jive
I can't drive 55! Oh No!
Uh!
So I signed my name on number 24, hey!
Yeah the judge said, "Boy, just one more...
We're gonna throw your ass in the city joint"
Looked me in the eye, said, "You get my point?"
I said Yea!, Oh yea!
Write me up a 125
Post my face wanted dead or alive
Take my license, all that jive
I can't drive 55!
Oh, yea!
I can't drive 55!
I can't drive 55!
I can't drive 55!
I can't drive 55!
Uh!
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Uh!
I wonder if when Sammy Hagar was writing those lyrics he actually wrote out "Uh!" or if he just thought to add that when he sang it.
5 mph over limit? (Score:2)
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What's the point of a computer that can download illegal content? If you want to have laws, enforce it inside each computer with encryption where the user can't modify it.
Consoles. Phones. Tablets. Chromebooks. The general purpose computer is dying more rapidly than one might believe. I fully expect that within my lifetime, ownership of a general purpose computer will require registration, and ownership of an "unregistered" will be a federal criminal offense. Compilers will be treated as munitions, and explicitly watermark every binary they produce. Think this is ridiculous? There is a very clear path from here to there, and there is an enormous amount of money pushi [slashdot.org]
Quit whining (Score:2)
Now, nobody will use it (Score:2)
Except maybe Jimmy Stuart...
Re:Road Hazard (Score:5, Insightful)
only applies to autopilot.
Assuming that soon this will be the norm, then all cars will be going the same speed, until then if there is enough traffic that is at a dissimilar speed, just drive instead of autopilot and you're golden.
Re:Road Hazard (Score:5, Insightful)
It not going to "soon be the norm"! Good lLord. get out of the basement and speak to real people - none of whom want this crap/
Re:Road Hazard (Score:5, Insightful)
Especially the cities that rely on traffic tickets to pay for the city budget. Auto-driving cars that never violate traffic laws will be doom for many small towns.
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I remember hearing a story about cops who pull people over only if they don't break any laws. They figured those were the ones who were up to something. hugely illegal, but apparently they got away with it.
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What cities would those be?
Sure, some cities are abusive in collecting traffic fines, but except for a few small towns which run "speed traps" few are relying on it to pay for their budget and I recall laws being put into place (at least in Texas) to curb such abuses. Famous speed trap towns were suddenly limited in the amount of revenue they could pull from traffic citations.
The fact is that nobody would get traffic citations if they didn't violate the law.
I've gotten a few and while I may have grumbled a
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What cities would those be?
I dont disagree with your points, please allow me to say that first.
Driving in the UK is a pleasure, despite the narrow roads and heavy traffic because drivers by and large follow the traffic rules and conventions of courtesy on the roads. A far cry from driving in Oz.
But there are certainly some cities/towns/states/counties that balance their books by fine revenue. Their budget depends on a certain amount of fines being issued so they game the system to ensure that there are enough tickets issued to
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The fact is that nobody would get traffic citations if they didn't violate the law.
Having been pulled over for *wearing* a seat belt and then cited, I will respectively disagree with your assertion.
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It not going to "soon be the norm"! Good lLord. get out of the basement and speak to real people - none of whom want this crap/
Within twenty years, people who want to indulge in the nostalgic experience of "driving manual" will have to go special state parks in Tennessee or Georgia where they can drive a Camaro through Potemkin villages set up as pat of the experience.
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I disageee; if self-driving cars eventually work as well as some people expect them to they will become the norm very quickly. Whether or not the technology will be good enough to allow that is, as far as I can tell, still an open question. However, some of the largest and most successful companies on the planet are spending billions of dollars a year to develop self-driving cars, and these corporations are not known for having infinite cash reserves or chasing sci-fi fantasies like flying cars. Also, th
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Real people mostly don't yet know that autonomous driving is available yet. And when they do hear of it they go into Luddite mode and assume that it can't possibly be safe. When the sytems are more widely available, and people are more comfortable with the concept, for sure most of them will want it! Most people hate their daily commute.
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only applies to autopilot. Assuming that soon this will be the norm,
That seems to be a rather brash assumption. Unless your definition of 'soon' is the next 100 years or so...
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In cosmological terms it's soon.
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honest question because I don't know:
Is Autopilot different from normal cruise control?
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"Is Autopilot different from normal cruise control?"
My understanding ... Yes. In addition to managing velocity, "Autopilot" keeps the car in its lane and tries to prevent it from running into things. At least things in front of the vehicle. AFAICS it's just an overhyped version of the Adaptive Cruise Control systems that many car manufacturers have been playing with for a decade or two.
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I personally think this is a great idea. But I think many of the non-Tesla drivers on the road are going to HATE it when they are forced to drive sensibly until they can find a place to pass. Especially if other automakers take it up.
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Those poor babies, being forced to actually obey the traffic laws.
My sympathy for them is so tiny, it cannot be measured by any currently available means.
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It sounds to me like you have a real problem with your driving culture.
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If everyone else on the road is going 5-10 over the speed limit
What heavenly part of the world are you driving in?
My local observation is that there are always a significant minority drivers who insiste on driving 5-10 MPH below the speed limit, and get road-ragey at anybody passing them.
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Traffic habits vary widely.
I live in a smaller city now - I usually refer to it as a "town" and people often go below the speed limit. Life seems a little slower around here, but I have lived in several big cities as well where even the slow drivers were exceeding the speed limit.
I once crested a little freeway overpass only to see a cop on the shoulder with his radar gun pointed at me and everyone else. I was doing about 80 in a 60.
Not to worry, I was going with the flow of traffic - and we all jammed on
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I once crested a little freeway overpass only to see a cop on the shoulder with his radar gun pointed at me and everyone else. I was doing about 80 in a 60.
Not to worry, I was going with the flow of traffic - and we all jammed on our brakes and slowed down to 60 until we got past him.
That's not very optimal from a road safety standpoint. Changing speeds, especially by braking, disrupts the flow of traffic and causes accidents. Pick a speed and stay with it.
Will you be getting a ticket by driving at that speed past a cop? Then slow the hell down to a legal speed, all the time.
Re:Road Hazard (Score:5, Insightful)
So what you're saying is that a lot of people aren't following the rules and breaking the law, but the one vehicle actually being operated under the conditions of the permit is the hazard?
Also I'm sorry but that's just plain wrong. If you're unable to travel the speed limit and insist on needing to overtake you can do it safely and patiently. The only time it's unsafe is if you're an impatient douchebag. In the mean time over on the other side of the pond we have no problem sharing our roads doing 200+ km/h with trucks and other vehicles with a 90km/h speedlimit. And the USA has roughly double the road fatality rate of Germany in every metric be it per capita, per vehicle or per distance.
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That reminds me of the time I drove through Germany and someone insisted on driving 90 km/h on the 2nd lane of a 5-lane freeway. I overtook with 140 and got into an argument with a driver behind me, who was on the leftmost lane doing 200, but invisible to me because of hills. There was no restriction in that area, so 90 was extremely dangerous given that most people were driving at 140 and didn't expect that speed to appear in lane 2.
We already have the shitty example of trucks overtaking on a 2-lane road w
Re:Road Hazard (Score:5, Interesting)
You do realize that Germany has no speed limits except 'safe and reasonable'. In fact, driving slower than the existing traffic is what causes many of the crashes on the Autobahn. They have places where it is illegal to stop
Germany pretty solidly proves the opposing argument - that obeying a posted speed limit set not by road conditions, but instead set for political reasons is EXACTLY the cause of car accidents.
You can look at a theoretical world or the real world. In the real world. shmucks driving slower than the prevailing traffic cause accidents - whether they are all driving the speed limit or all driving 10 miles less than the speed limit for a practical joke/ due to a traffic jam/ or any other reasons.
Driving on public roads is a swarm activity. The driving laws are a partial but incomplete set of rules used to help that swarm activity. overlaid on top of natural psychological swarm rules. While following the rules of man is a good idea, following the rules of nature is practically essential.
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You do realize that Germany has no speed limits except 'safe and reasonable'. In fact, driving slower than the existing traffic is what causes many of the crashes on the Autobahn. They have places where it is illegal to stop
So I do, now re-read my post. There are unrestricted speed limits on the autobahns but none the less trucks, busses, small lorries are still 90km/h speed limited. Small cars can't get to the same speed as Audi A8s. Most highways have places where it's illegal stop, the only thing different in Germany is that not only do you not get a concession if there's a problem with a car, you end up with an additional fine for not maintaining the vehicle, which also includes running out of fuel.
None the less the vast m
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You do realize that Germany has no speed limits except 'safe and reasonable'. In fact, driving slower than the existing traffic is what causes many of the crashes on the Autobahn. They have places where it is illegal to stop
You are about 30 years behind the times. While Germany has no universal speed limit and stopping is illegal everywhere on the Autobahn, they have speed restrictions on a growing number of sections. Currently about 35% of the Autobahn system has speed limits, which in practice means that you have unregulated sections interrupted by short stretches limited to 100 or 120 kph. If you care about speed limits, the times when you could dial in cruise control at 170 kph are mostly over. In many places where the hig
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You do realize that Germany has no speed limits except 'safe and reasonable'.
Sounds like you need an education on Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_Germany [wikipedia.org]
Speed limits are actually quite heavily enforced in Germany and suspensions are handed out for much lower infractions. The difference is that the Germans tend to focus more on urban speed limits (which tend to be low compared to the UK, Australian and especially the US) because most of the preventable deaths happen on urban roads.
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http://www.michigan.gov/docume... [michigan.gov]
Though, it looks like statistically, you're more a hazard to yourself than any other single driver.
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Thanks that's a great study. It re-enforces that everyone should do a common speed. We could regulate this quite easily, maybe make the speeds standard and write them on signs on the side of the highway.
What a concept!
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Except that decades ago the speeds were set for political reasons
Ahhh so the reason the rules of the road that govern everyone driving at the same speed are set are grounds for disobeying the laws, but then you complain about people travelling different speeds being a hazard...
*golf clap*
Driving is a privilege, not a right. You're bound to abide by the rules set on the license. Your opinion of if the rules are right is a important as Jack's and Shit's.
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If you think the speed limits are set too low, petition to have them changed. Don't arbitrarily invent new speed limits that you would rather adhere to.
While newer cars can comfortably cruise at higher speeds than the cars of yesteryear, the average driver has not become anymore vigilant. Rather, they've become a lot more distracted by cellphones, coffee and everything else that goes on.
When you took your license, you agreed to adhere to the laws and limits, no matter how arbitrary they may be. "Arbitrary"
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A big issue to that is that in order to be safe, you need to be going with the flow of traffic. In certain parts of the country that speed is usually well above the listed limit. I remember driving through Atlanta one time doing 85 just to keep up with traffic and avoid getting run off the road. A cop passed me in the lane to my left and didn't give a crap. That's just how people drive there.
Further there was a famous incident where a group of students in Georgia showed what happens if every lane had so
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In certain parts of the country that speed is usually well above the listed limit.
Yeah there's a way to solve this. How about we post specific speeds that people should follow to improve safety. We could do something like putting them on signs on the side of the highway.
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Did you even read what I said, or are you intentionally cherry picking? If you do the speed limit in places where everyone drives above it, you become a road hazard. So in order to drive safely in those areas, you need to be going about as fast as everyone else.
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And what good does it do to post speed limits well below actual traffic speeds
Sorry I didn't get past this statement. What the fuck kind of logic is it? The conditions of you getting your driving license was to operate the vehicle according the road rules, not to drive in mass however the hell you want and then complain that the rules which permitted your license are wrong.
What good does it do to post speed limits that are below traffic speed? To slow down the fucking traffic in specific areas. I mean I get it school is hard, but you can ask a 5 year old and still get the right answe
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I agree with your observations and your approach to traffic. Safe speed, safe distance and a vigilant eye is extremely important.
It really amazed me that people don't realize that keeping a safe following distance actually *speeds up the traffic flow*.
I would much rather have the crazy drivers a safe distance in front of me, so I can anticipate and react to their bullshit idiotic maneuvers, than I would have them tailgating behind me where I have no idea what they're going to do.
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How do you figure? The strict limits are enforced on roads that are not highways. In other words, city streets, residential roads, and other non-highway situations. In those cases speed limits are already 25-35 mph in many cases, and 10 mph over is most likely a ticket-able offense and 5 mph over isn't likely to find it a hazard.
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Indeed. In PA, for example, the law specifies a 10 MPH over the limit buffer, so the lowest ticketable speed is 11 over (5 over when the posted limit is 65 or higher). So, in this state, a 35 zone is actually a 45, and a 70 is actually a 75.
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If everyone else on the road is going 5-10 over the speed limit, then the Tesla is essentially a road hazard that other people need to avoid. This seems like a dumb move.
They generally are. People not paying attention to traffic are always hazards you need to keep a wide margin to, be it people on a phone or people "not driving" a Tesla.
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If someone going 5mph slower than you constitutes a road hazard, you need to wake the fuck up when you're driving.
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If everyone is going over the speed limit, everyone is a road hazard and everyone should be fuckin arrested.
Then you should stay out of Arizona.
Re:Set speeds will follow autonomous vehicles. (Score:4, Insightful)
Most sensible people expect that self-driving cars will go significantly above the speed limit, because the reasons for limiting them to the speed limit (inability to look everywhere at once and see people pulling out of driveways, see kids about to run across the street unexpectedly, etc.) don't apply when you have a dozen cameras being monitored continuously by an AI, nor do most common human failings like inattentiveness, inability to properly assess speed of traction loss on curves, poor judgment of road conditions in general, etc. Anyone who would expect a self-driving car to obey a speed limit intended for humans with human reaction time (particularly on open highways) is arguably insane, or at best, a complete luddite.
Similarly, self-driving cars need not continue to obey traffic lights once they have achieved critical mass....
Re:Set speeds will follow autonomous vehicles. (Score:5, Interesting)
Here is a video from a few days ago of a self-driving car running a red light. So, sadly, no. The belief that a machine which has been programmed by humans is now incapable of making mistakes is one that I'm surprised to hear from a Slashdot user.
https://youtu.be/_CdJ4oae8f4 [youtu.be]
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Watched the video and it's pretty blatant. But do we know if it was in self drive mode? Anything anywhere else on this?
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"These seem to not be driving very well as they are also known to drive on the bicycle lane."
Being picky, but reality is the opposite I think. Uber's self driving cars make right hand turns from the traffic lane whereas California law requires them to pull right into the bicycle lane (if there is such) before turning right. I believe that Uber has acknowledged that's a problem.
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But do we know if it was in self drive mode?
According to Uber, the car was NOT in self-driving mode. The human driver was in full control. Also, according to Uber, the driver has been fired.
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But of course Uber cannot be trusted to be telling the truth about anything.
Re:Set speeds will follow autonomous vehicles. (Score:4, Insightful)
I never said that they would be incapable of making mistakes. Initially, they have to be at least as good as humans, or we shouldn't let them on the road, but they need not be better (though many of these systems already are, statistically).
But in the long run, as they get better at driving (machine learning, etc.), they should quickly become dramatically better than humans. After all, humans learn from their mistakes individually; computers learn from their mistakes collectively.
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That looks like one of the Uber cars. SF and California are pissed that they did not apply for a permit like everyone else for testing their vehicles and that their cars are blowing through red lights and making unsafe turns.
Tesla is fairly specific that they are currently not L5 autonomous. They really don't want people to use autopilot on undivided roads. If you want to go fast, don't use autopilot, it's as simple as that. The current autopilot is best used on divided highways and freeways since it doesn'
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I wonder about red lights. Here in Houston (Midtown) where there is light rail and all sorts of weird one-way streets and very confusing signals. There's a busy intersection near me that a separate signal light for every lane, and one lane has an odd non-standard pale skinny green arrow that seems to change color on no set schedule. And one lane has light rail
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In San Francisco from what I've seen the bike lanes are very well marked. It sounds like the thing Uber is most upset about with getting a permit is that they need to report every incident. Also, from my research it sounds like Uber has a long way to go with their system. Given the high population density and lack of parking and high cost in San Francisco, bicycles are a popular alternative.
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That video shows the Ubers which are widely regarded as the fisher price of self driving cars. Additionally Uber claims the car was being manually driven.
Say what you want, but two things are clear:
a) that's not a Telsa which doesn't seem to run lights.
b) even if it was a Tesla this is a problem that can be solved with engineering. Human inattentiveness can not.
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Most sensible people expect that self-driving cars will go significantly above the speed limit
I guess I'm not sensible then because I expect self-driving cars to rigidly adhere to all traffic laws especially something as simple as a speed limit.
I expect this not because I don't realize that autonomous vehicles can respond quicker than humans and have better collision detection sensors than humans, but because they are mindless programmed automatons that should rigidly adhere to a set of rules that are programmed into them.
But Teslas are not fully autonomous anyway. If I want to speed while driving
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I guess I'm not sensible then because I expect self-driving cars to rigidly adhere to all traffic laws especially something as simple as a speed limit.
I expect this not because I don't realize that autonomous vehicles can respond quicker than humans and have better collision detection sensors than humans, but because they are mindless programmed automatons that should rigidly adhere to a set of rules that are programmed into them.
I expect them to be capable of doing something that simple. I'm saying that I don't think they should be required by law to do so, but rather that the law should adapt to allow vehicles to judge the maximum safe speed using some reasonable set of rules even if the result of that computation results in the vehicle exceeding the speed limit by some reasonable margin.
On the other hand, I'm not convinced that it will actually be possible to get speed limits completely correct. There's no guarantee that a came
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Autonomous vehicles need to avoid doing anything that would cause problems for non-autonomous vehicles and pedestrians (e.g. going the wrong way on one-way streets, ignoring lane markers, going twice the speed limit, etc.), but strict adherence to speed limits is completely pointless and unnecessary even in the short term. For that matter, most of the time, it is pointless even for human drivers, much less for reverse-panopticon AI cars.
We tolerate speed limits because of the safety benefits, but there's
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Most of those other factors are supposed to be factored in by the driver when choosing whether to travel below the posted limit. For example, if a car sees children playing beside the road, it should slow down to a sub-fatal speed well ahead of time just in case the kids do something stupid, regardless of the posted limit. Bicycles being where they don't belong, traffic flow (*), etc. are typically situational awareness issues, and require drivers to drive below the speed limit when they occur. None of
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Remember, they've already used this feature to remotely disable a Tesla of an owner that posted a negative tweet about Elon Musk.
I don't remember that. I remember Elon Musk canceling a blogger's order [theguardian.com]. Was there a separate incident in which an owner's car was disabled?
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20mph over the limit is dangerous speeding unless the speed limit was set for political reasons. Next to a school or because some jerk protested to the mayors office or something.
But to the point. Autopilot isn't meant for a self driving car. It is setup to keep you safe while distracted from those odd human needs. Where our eyes are off the road for the split second.
If you want to speed go ahead. It isn't stopping you. But you can't blame the autopilot if you get pulled over.
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The speed limit is the speed *limit*. It really isn't a very hard concept to understand.
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Fred would never do that, I know the guy.
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The state cops let you get away with 70-75 on it.
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You mean like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]