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White House, 35 States To Boost Electric Vehicle Charging Stations (cnbc.com) 72

An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNBC: The White House said on Thursday it will establish 48 national electric-vehicle (EV) charging networks on nearly 25,000 miles of highways in 35 U.S. states. The Obama administration said 28 states, utilities and vehicle manufactures, including General Motors, BMW and Nissan Motor, and EV charging firms have agreed to work together to jump-start the additional charging stations. The corridors were required to be established by December under a 2015 highway law. The White House said 24 state and local governments have agreed to buy hundreds of additional electric vehicles for government fleets and add new EV charging stations. California will buy at least 150 zero-emission vehicles and provide EV charging at a minimum of 5 percent of state-owned parking spaces by 2020. The city of Atlanta will add 300 charging stations at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport by the end of 2017. Los Angeles agreed to nearly triple the city's current plug-in electric fleet to 555 vehicles from about 200 by the end of 2017. Of those, 200 will be for the police department. The city is also adding another 500 stations by 2017. One hurdle to the mass adoption of EVs has been the difficulty in finding places to recharge vehicles. In July, the White House said it was expanding a federal loan guarantee program to include companies building EV charging stations. The U.S. Energy Department said in July that charging facilities are now an eligible technology for the program that can provide up to $4.5 billion in loan guarantees.
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White House, 35 States To Boost Electric Vehicle Charging Stations

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  • We are now seeing affordable >200 mile range cars entering the market, like the Zoe and Bolt. As long as charger installs keep up a lot more people should be able to go 100% electric.

    • Here in Southern California with Tesla's being the new executive cars charging stations installed at commercial building are a premium amenity. In short brokers are placing EV Charging amenities on the front page of leasing brochures. With significant rate savings by DWP/Edison it is becoming profitable for building owners to provide these. even at $2/hr which is the average rate (sometimes discounted to tenants) I think in a very real world ten years from now the traditional fueling station will now become

  • Every week I drive by multiple EV charging stations and each time I see at least one EV vehicle parked there without the cable to the charger connected to the vehicle. I've even seen EV vehicles parallel parked in non-parallel parking EV stations, thus occupying 3 parking spots without even charging the vehicle.
    If the vehicle is NOT charging, why do they get special privilages to park in reserved parking spaces without complying with requirments of reserved parking spaces? It would be no different than if

  • >> White House said on Thursday it will establish 48 national electric-vehicle (EV) charging networks on nearly 25,000 miles of highways in 35 U.S. states

    Better hurry up. It's a good bet that whatever crawls into the White House next will spend his or her time dodging civil and criminal lawsuits. "Ain't nobody gonna have time for your hipster charging stations!"
  • ... It will be $50 for a charge,, and you'll still pay the gas tax..

  • Not just the initial build-out of charging stations (BTW, which charging standard is being used?), but the ongoing cost of maintenance and the actual electricity? TFA is remarkably silent on this, which means I'm paying for it. I don't have an electric car, I don't want to pay for yours.
    • by plopez ( 54068 )

      People who don't own cars still subsidize people who do. They pay for rescue services, police patrols, parking lots, etc. and have to breath the fumes cars produce. Stop whining.

      • by Rakarra ( 112805 )

        Except for a few outliers, people who live in metropolitan areas yet forego cars, the large majority of people without a car are poor -- low enough income that they won't be paying any federal taxes.

  • Airport charging (Score:5, Insightful)

    by crow ( 16139 ) on Thursday November 03, 2016 @11:09PM (#53210491) Homepage Journal

    Why add lots of charging stations at airports? When people are leaving their cars for multiple days, they don't need a 240v charger or anything fancy. All that's needed is a simple electrical outlet. Even a Tesla could recharge fully in four days from a standard wall outlet. Put your level-2 charging stations in places where people shop or work and will only be parked for a few hours. Put the level-3 charging stations along highways where people need to charge quickly.

    Of course, the need for public charging stations decreases as the range of the cars increases. When the standard range is over 200 miles, most people can do all their non-travel charging at home. You don't need chargers at shopping centers and offices (though I still hear about people with crazy 100+ mile commutes). The real challenge is charging for people who don't have a garage. Focus on putting chargers at apartment complexes and on city streets where residents without garages park. Require charging as part of the permitting process for new apartments (we just did that in my town).

    • by rgmoore ( 133276 )

      Why add lots of charging stations at airports? When people are leaving their cars for multiple days, they don't need a 240v charger or anything fancy.

      There's a lot of short-term parking at airports, too. There is a surprising amount of one day travel- fly out in the morning and back in the evening- that would benefit. And a lot of people who are flying for longer times don't want to park their car at the airport and pay for multiple days of parking, so they have somebody drop them off and pick them up.

    • Re:Airport charging (Score:4, Informative)

      by eepok ( 545733 ) on Friday November 04, 2016 @11:39AM (#53212937) Homepage
      Plain ol' sockets won't do the job because it doesn't provide the data necessary to bill the driver to electricity used, manage the hundreds of plugs, etc.

      Also, while it seems like common sense to place charging stations at workplaces and shopping areas, it doesn't make sense form an administrative or engineering standpoint. When stations go in at your job site, your job site becomes the administrator of those stations. They effectively become refueling stations and they become responsible for the smooth running of their workers refueling. This is much more complex than most people realize. Additionally, when you place massive amounts of chargers (level 2 chargers for that matter) in areas where people are likely to park during the day, you're encouraging additional peak-time load which usually means more pollution per kWh. It's also more expensive to INSTALL the EVSEs because you have to trench and run electrical cables into open lots, install new transformers, etc.

      If you want to promote EV use, the solution is NOT more chargers in public spaces, but more battery capacity at an affordable price (like the Chevy Bolt) and more charging at home. And this is the truest obstacle of the push for EVs.

      The cheapest energy is off-peak energy. If you charge at home between 9pm and 6am, you're paying a couple dollars at most to fill up your car's battery pack. This is what everyone wants. But not everyone has a garage. Not everyone owns a home so that they can install an EVSE with which to charge an EV.

      If EVs are to succeed:
      1. EVERYONE has to be able to charge at home.
      2. The cars can't cost more than a Prius. (The federal rebate needs to be reworked to be useful to those of moderate/low income.)
      3. The cars must have at least a 200 mile range. (All of us working in sustainability are looking forward to the Chevy Bolt.)
      4. We have to find a way to make battery manufacturing, recycling, and disposal environmentally safe.

      That's a lot to ask for. Which is why I genuinely think that we're over-investing in battery EVs when we should be building more solar/wind powered hydrolyzers and focusing on hydrogen fuel cell vehicle adoption (Toyota Mirai, Hyundai Tuscon, etc.).
  • by FrankSchwab ( 675585 ) on Friday November 04, 2016 @01:19AM (#53210781) Journal

    So the only company with a charger with a high enough charge rate that its actually usable for highway travel, the only company with an existing charger infrastructure covering almost all highway routes across the nation, the only company that offers to license all of its patents on this technology to any and all manufacturers who would wish to use it as long as they share in the costs and the ethos of open access, isn't involved in this project?

    sigh.

  • by DrXym ( 126579 ) on Friday November 04, 2016 @05:44AM (#53211235)
    Car manufacturers are engaged in a stupid pissing match over charging formats and related matters. It ends up with duplication of effort and vertical platforms where one car can't charge from another port, and where consumers become pawns in some stupid format war.

    Federal and state support should be SAE J1772 with DC fast charge and force car makers into line. No CHAdeMO, no Tesla proprietary charge, no Mennekes. A single standard. It would also help if all charge points were required by law to accept common forms of payment and not be exclusive to one make or model of vehicle. i.e. charging should be like filling up a gasoline vehicle, not some vertical thing where charge stations only support certain brands of vehicles or discriminate against competitors.

    That might inconvenience people with existing vehicles (they'll have to use cables) but the long term benefit is obvious. It removes a format war, risk of verticality / monopolies and increases consumer confidence in electric vehicles.

    Other regions in the world like Europe might choose Mennekes with DC fast charge as their single format but the same point applies.

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