Tablet Shipments Decline For Eighth Straight Quarter, No Company Surpassed 10 Million Units (venturebeat.com) 127
Similar to the smartwatch market, the tablet market is in rough shape. According to estimates provided by IDC, the tablet market has been in decline for eight quarters in a row, and no company managed to ship more than 10 million units. VentureBeat reports: Q3 2016 saw a 14.7 percent year-over-year decline: 43 million units shipped worldwide, compared to 50.5 million units in the same quarter last year. Both Apple and Samsung saw their shipment numbers fall once again, though Apple gained share, up 1.9 points to 21.5 percent market share. Samsung slipped 0.9 points to 15.1 percent, but still shipped more than double the units than those behind it. This is the third time that Amazon has placed in the top five in a non-Q4 quarter -- typically, the company only shows up due to the holiday season. The company's low-cost Fire tablet has propelled the company to the top, though the growth shown is skewed by the fact that IDC did not include the 6-inch tablets offered by Amazon in Q3 2015. Lenovo shipped fewer units but grew 0.3 percent to 6.3 percent share, while Huawei shipped more units and gained 1.9 points to 5.6 percent. Both companies have maintained their positions for many quarters now and don't look like they will be displaced.
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The kids are fine with the tablet we have now, we'll replace it when it breaks but it runs Youtube, Bloons TD and Angry Birds just fine, no reason to upgrade it.
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Aside from market saturation, our phones are now so absurdly huge, we don't need no tablets.
My phone is now actually bigger than my first tablet. [wikipedia.org]
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They are stacking up around here - more than one tablet per person, and that's not counting phones/phablets.
The new ones no longer do anything the old ones wouldn't do, except break more easily.
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No reason to upgrade (Score:2, Insightful)
I bought my kids iPad minis years ago. They all still work just fine.
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You can beat it for reading- Kindle paperwhites are far easier on the eyes, less likely to cause long term eye strain issues, and will never run out of juice in the middle of a trip. I'd never use a tablet over an e-ink device for reading.
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Unless you like to read with your head on a pillow at night. Hard to see a paperwhite screen there.
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Unless you like to read with your head on a pillow at night. Hard to see a paperwhite screen there.
Obviously you haven't been following the latest in Kindles. The new models have backlight. My Kindle Voyage even has automatic backlight dimming. It starts bright and then slowly dims at night with the lights off to prevent strain on your eyes when reading at night.
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Right, which immediately removes all the supposed power-saving advantages of e-ink. My reader, a $50 Android tablet, also has a night mode, and redshifts at night so as not to cook my eyeballs.
Plus I can still watch telly on it if I really want.
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No it does not. e-ink shits all over tables when it comes to energy usage. The back-light lasts for weeks, it uses a tiny amount of energy compared to an LCD screen. But don't like the real world influence your deluded reality. You are so attached to your crap you take it personally when the laws of physics shit on your perception. Hey, you're poor, no worries; but don't fool yourself or lie to others about reality. You'll grow up one day. And fix your teeth.
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Okay so tablets do use more power when the screen is on, so the tablet needs to be charged once a week rather than once a, what, month for you?
Tell me again how you can watch multimedia content on your crappy Kindle. Or surf the net without waiting half a second for the screen to refresh.
Does your Kindle auto-scroll? Honest question.
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Not the original poster, but not true. All of my ebooks are either (1) from Humble Bundle sales, (2) converted manga/comics, and/or (3) pirated. Point is, I've never used my Kindle Paperwhite.online (mostly to avoid Firmware Updates*).
It doesn't work that well for surfing or watching videos.
Yes, it's an ebook reader. It just doesn't work well for other things*.
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I just change my e-reader app to black background with white (more off white) text, and eyestrain issues disappeared.
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Do not replace them! The new ones are much more fragile than the original iPads and minis. We let our 8 year olds have free reign with an original iPad and a mini, the original iPad never broke (except by Apple updating its software into non-functionality), the original mini lasted through drops, kicks, dirt, and every form of abuse except dunking. After a bath around year three, we replaced it, new one was cheaper to purchase, but only lasted a couple of months before it was cracked into oblivion. New
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Market Saturation (Score:2, Insightful)
New models dont really offer much over the previous ones at this point. Also, just because its falling doesn't mean it wont level out at some point.
Re:Market Saturation (Score:4, Insightful)
Absolutely. And that's especially true if you look at Samsung tablets. The Tab S2 are more expensive and have a far worse screen than the Tab S. What the hell ?
Anyway, that's just a stable market. Tablets are fine, they are useful but they are not replacing laptops as some had predicted and of course, growing is only temporary.
I'm always amazed by some announcing things like "smartphone growth is slowing down !!" like it is the end of smartphones, or like markets could grow exponentially, forever. Some had this impression thanks to emerging markets (china, india) but smartphones, like tablets, are pretty old now, so it's only normal they reach their maximum.
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My Wife has lamented that tablet tech has lagged behind phone tech. Why can't we have 8 cores in out tablet instead of just 4 that we have been offered the last several years?
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Similar story here. I'm still using a Samsung Tab 10.2. I'd like to get an updated version, but Samsung can't be bothered to make one.
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Actually, when laptops are creeping - rapidly - into the desktop market, and smart phones are slamming the tablet products, it's no real surprise that this niche product (the TABLET) is in terminal decline.
MY real joy is that current desktop / server / workstation models are rapidly invading the 'super-computer' realm of only a decade (or less) ago.
With fast (USB-3 & USB-c) external links to really fast drives in the multi-terabyte range, and memory capacities in the 30 gig ranges, along with octal-cor
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I see no reason to think tablets are in a terminal decline, any more than desktops were a while back. They're very useful for some purposes, and people are going to keep buying them, although not in as large numbers as they used to.
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Is this surprising?
People who want tablets already have them by now. People who don't want them aren't going to buy one.
You're left with a very small market segment. People who have a tablet old enough to warrant replacing, people who always wanted one but previously couldn't afford one, but then got a nice promotion at work or something ... and that's it?
Unlike the smart watch market however, people do want tablets. It's a good form factor for media consumption. Sales should stabilize at some point. We're still just getting over the initial "gold rush" period to find the actually year-to-year purchase rate .
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Is this surprising?
People who want tablets already have them by now. People who don't want them aren't going to buy one.
You're left with a very small market segment.
We went through the same thing with the old feature phones. The sales always level off. At the spoint, there isn't a lot of impetus to buy a new one. Maybe the iPad pro, althhough it's kinda big. But otherwise, why buy a new one?
The smartwatches were a failure, as a lot of us figured they would be. But seems like the only thing they are working on now is battery life. Even those who dislike Apple better hope they come up with something new so the industry can follow. Right now my Samsung Tab is looking j
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I don't think smart watches are a failure, they are before there time, they don't provide the functionality required to make them useful enough, because the technology isn't there yet.
What I want is one that doesn't require a phone, has better input (maybe voice, maybe detects hand movement, don't know), maybe a projector. maybe some form of kinetic charging.
This was the same with phone, the iPhone was not the first smart phone, but had the right level of marketing, usability to make smartphones popular.
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I don't think smart watches are a failure, they are before there time, they don't provide the functionality required to make them useful enough, because the technology isn't there yet.
I think one real serious limiter of smart watches is that a whole lot of us don't wear watches any more. It would take a law to make me put something on my wrist today. when I usesd to wear watches a long time ago, the bands would pull hair off my arm, or stink, depending on the material of the band. Finally, since I was working around a lot of high current devices, I just abandoned them. Now I have a smartphone that does all I need. The trick of the smartwatches will be to convince us something we don't ha
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So tablet good for media consumption, hmmm? You left out one market segment, likely on purpose, people who bought tablets, found they had just purchased a useless toy and will likely never buy another one. So the tablet squeezed in between a smart big screen TV (no comparisson in viewing quality or comfort, craps all over tablet) and the phablet (portability craps all over the tablet and soon to come out enhanced output glasses, a big screen TV in your pocket).
Reality is the only real value of tablets (d
Re: Well ... yeah. (Score:2)
You are correct, there are a lot of devices at very small increments infringing on each other.
Your phablet might make a full tablet obsolete, but I prefer a smaller phone in my pocket day to day (still rocking my iPhone 5) so a Samsung Tab 10.1 is a great tool for browsing on the couch or watching videos while I cook. The on-screen keyboard won't replace a physical one, but it's certainly better than trying to type with a D-pad on my Roku.
There is certainly no need to have every device at every marginal si
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It probably depends on who you know or maybe it's an age thing, but I don't know anyone in this segment. Don't jump to conclusions ("..likely on purpose...") just because you're a different demographic.
I'm guessing you're a millennial? Not meant as a negative jab or anything, that's just the demographic I know the least, and all the others seem like
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My tablet has a large screen, and is intended as a PDF reader that does some other things not too badly.The Amazon reviews were fun: "The sound sucks! Buy it!" It is one of my lesser-used machines, but it has its role in my life.
Windows10 2 in 1s won. (Score:1)
For me, there was no upgrade path available from the Samsung Galaxy Note pro 12.2 (OF 3 YEAR AGO!). There are faster tablets without stylus, there are tablets with more pixels but smaller screens, and there are bigger screen tablets with less processing power and fewer pixels.
There's no upgrade path that has all the existing features, plus faster processor, plus bigger screen. All the top end has been taken over by Windows10 2 in 1s.
Microsoft seems to have gotten its act together, Google seems to have lost
What can be done? (Score:2)
Change out the cpu, gpu and OS so all users have to hardware upgrade for the best new apps?
Games that need new hardware can be created to push hardware branding.
A new cpu and gpu needed every cycle to keep up with the great code and graphics?
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I would settle for a fully replaceable ssd, maybe a single sodimm or mini pcie socket.
Having to play "grope and tickle" with soft links to a functioned SD card to overcome limited storage on consumer tablets, and having to kluge around MS's absurd stance that SD cards always mount with removable storage flag set ( so no complex partition tables) is bullshit. Give me a real m.2 socket.
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MS's absurd stance that SD cards always mount with removable storage flag set
Android can mount / format SD cards as full ext4 file systems and use them as additional storage as a peer to the device's internal flash.
Re: What can be done? (Score:1)
For me it would be better general purpose control of the device. With both Android and iOS tablets I've used, eventually something comes up that requires a cat and mouse game of 'rooting' or 'jailbreaking' in which I'm uninterested. I want full general purpose control over my computing devices.
I'll let that slide a bit for phones because they are ultimately still phones where reliability trumps features for me, but fuck that for any other computer in my life without a specific purpose.
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First off all price. at $600 you aren't going to buy them often. Plus I'm scared to carry it out n public.
Second off, replaceable storage and battery. By replaceable I mean slide in and out.
I see the RCA line as being the next big thing--the Viking, Galileo and Maven between $80-$150 and comparable to 1st gen Apple's and Samsung's.
Price? (Score:2)
This I don't get, every other computing device has come down in price but top of the line Android tablets have increased in price. My Toshiba 10.1 cost $300 four years ago, today a name brand 10" tablet will cost $400-$500 and have less functionality. The Toshiba has a full sized SD card slot, try finding that on a tablet today.
The SD card slot is perfect for previewing photos in the field. Damn near every DSLR uses SD card storage, pop the card into the Toshiba and fire up Droid RAW and I can preview my
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More RAM. I'd wager my iPad 1 would still be usable, even at an abandoned OS level, for stuff like web browsing if it had enough RAM to handle javascript bloated web pages instead of just crashing.
I also wonder why no one has shipped a low end PC in tablet form factor. Out of the box, it's a tablet form factor but with HDMI and USB3 ports that boots direct to Android. Supply it with enough flash storage and the ability to boot to PC mode where a desktop OS could be installed. It would be a tablet if you
So... (Score:5, Funny)
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No decent new Android tablet in the last year (Score:4, Interesting)
It doesn't help that the last flagship tablet releases by Samsung (the Tab S2) and Google (Nexus 9) were not only expensive, but disappointingly 4:3 aspect ratio, making them poor for games and videos. I think Samsung's Tab S 8.4" and 10.5" tablets were the pinnacle w.r.t. the display on an Android tablet and there's been nothing since then worth buying. Heck, Google completely ignored tablets at their last launch, instead flogging clearly overpriced phones. If a Samsung Tab S3 came out with a 16:10 display like the Tab S, but with more RAM/faster CPU/GPU, then I'd probably first in line to buy it.
It's sad that my venerable Nexus 10 is still pressganged into service (with CyanogenMod on it of course, like all my tablets) - it was the last decent large tablet Google sold. It's no wonder tablets are dropping in sales - the Android tablet manufacturers in particular have almost given up making an effort to create a decent tablet. Yes, I know about the Yoga Book, but the price is a little steep considering the specs aren't fantastic and you can't detach the display and use it as a standalone tablet.
Re:No decent new Android tablet in the last year (Score:4, Interesting)
Pixel C, released Dec 8 2015?
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I get the video part, but why games? I've been gaming on it and 4:3 seems better, if anything -- you can fit more on there.
For what it's worth, I've been very impressed with Tab S2. It's a great tablet!
Agree, the Tab S line are the best tablets yet (Score:2)
produced. And there has been nothing worthwhile since then. I had to replace my Tab S 8.4 with a recent-model iPad Mini due to work (needed particular apps that were iOS only) and I hate it, it feels like it's years behind.
I think the market is being misread. Apple is falling, yet everyone is still following Apple's lead (and moving away from very positive differentiation) as though Apple were still king. There devices were awesome in the '00s. Now they're stale—and rather than step into the gap, Andr
Opps "their" ^ devices (Score:2)
it's late.
This is why AT&T wants to buy Time Warner (Score:2)
Microsoft? (Score:3)
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Two at my house: a surface3 and a surface4 pro. Both pretty solid so far. The 3 freezes up on rare occasions -- usually seems to be when chrome has 20 tabs open.
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Really? I must not exist. My wife has a Surface Book, my kids have a Surface 3 and I have a Surface Pro 4. It's the first time in twenty years I've had a machine running Windows.
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Really? I must not exist. My wife has a Surface Book, my kids have a Surface 3 and I have a Surface Pro 4. It's the first time in twenty years I've had a machine running Windows.
Well, despite the branding, the Surface and the Surface Pro are two different beasts. The Surface is what would normally be called a tablet these days, and the Surface Pro would be a laptop in tablet form running actual Windows rather than the cut down tablet version (WinRaT). My understanding is that Surface Pros are doing pretty good because people want a regular computer in tablet form to do what they want to do. However, the table Surfaces are not as there are no apps, there are cheaper alternatives. Pe
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Ah, interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks. Still, haven't seen one. A couple of the people in the IT group I'm with had Surface Pros when they came out. Now they all seemed to have bought Mac Book Pros earlier this year. Of course, we run several vendor apps and none of them have even given hints they are even testing for Win10 yet, so we aren't dealing much with non-Win7 devices quite yet.
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You are misinformed. The Surface 3 uses an Intel chip and a full version of Windows 10, with all the compatibility that implies. You are thinking of the original Surface and Surface 2 models.
The primary difference between the Surface 3 and Surface Pro 3/4 is a smaller screen, different processor line (Atom SoC vs Core), fixed position kickstand, and no facial recognition. Aside from that they are largely similar. Both have a touchscreen and digitizer, both use the same pen, they use the same contacts fo
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I'll send you a selfy if it'll shut you up.
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Man I used to laugh at people using the term butthurt, but you are an example of it. You said you don't see people use surfaces, I can only conclude your blind, lying, or have a severe case of tunnel vision. I'm inclined to believe it's the latter. Meanwhile back in the real world the surfaces are selling well. Selling, as in selling by Microsoft direct from their website.
Get a life, and a better pc.
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That's because you can get them for free by searching NFL teams garbage.
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Tablets peaked (Score:2)
Tablets peaked about two years ago, when you could get a decent tablet with a high-but-not-insane resolution touchscreen (and S-Pen in the case of Samsung) and you could beam the screen contents to any miricast-compatible TV, projector or dongle.
Now, as more useful features are being removed, there is very little compelling reason to upgrade.
Nexus 7 (Score:3)
I don't understand Google. The Nexus 7, both 2012 and 2013 were big sellers. But no new Nexus 7 has been released in 3 years. As such, I haven't bought a tablet for myself or anyone in my family since 2013. 7"-8" is perfectly sized for a tablet, any bigger you might as well get a laptop. The Nexus 7 was also perfectly priced. I'm not going to buy a Samsung tablet with all it's bloated software, nor a super cheap generic tablet that never get Android updates. nVidia Shield tablets are/were too expensive, and I already tried the Amazon Fire tablet "Google Play store" hack with bad long term results (works for a bit, then get slower and slower).
Nexus 7 was it, and Google killed it off after 2013.
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nVidia Shield tablets are/were too expensive
The K1 was $199 when it was released less than a year ago. You think that's expensive?
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https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Ze... [amazon.com]
How about the Asus Zenpad S 8?
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Ze... [amazon.com]
8" IPS Display (2048 x 1536) with ASUS TruVivid technology for better visual experience
Intel Atom Z3530 Super Quad-Core, 64bit, 1.3GHz
2G RAM, 32G Onboard Storage
5M/2M Dual Camera; 1 x microSD Card slot, support up to 128GB SDHC
Android 6.0 Marshmallow
Or the Nvidia Shield K1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017... [amazon.com]
Powered by the NVIDIA Tegra K1 processor, featuring a 192-core NVIDIA Kepler GPU and 2.2 GHz quad-core CPU.
Ful
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FWIW, the K1 is faster and more stable than either of the Nexus 7s and the Nexus 9. It's really a solid device. Too bad Nvidia seems to have bailed on the idea of a next gen X1-based tablet in favor of giving 110% to Nintendo.
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I also want a new Nexus 7, however it is not 1080p; it has a 16:10 1920x1200 display at 323ppi, which is infinitely better than the typical TV aspect crap. If they went to 3:2 or made it A6 that would be even better.
Apple and Google laughing their way to the bank (Score:2)
Amazon seems to be the oddball. They actually took the Google platform and managed to figure out how to capitalize off of the Google platform while mostly cutting Google out. Everyone else is basically screwed.
So in the end, Samsung, HTC, all those guys are all going to die from Nokia/Blackberry syndrome. They don't make any money unless people buy n
The OS needs to improve. (Score:2)
Everyone who is going to get one now has a tablet for simple media consumption tasks, and most tablets out there are fast enough to do the job (my kids are still using their years-old original Galaxy Tabs—which show no signs of quitting—to browse the web and do homework). The same malaise that infected the PC market has hit tablets—the only real target segment is upgraders, and most users don't see a reason to upgrade.
What's missing from the tablet experience continues to be the ability to
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Exactly this! I use my tablet for games and watching Netflix/Hulu, but if I want to DO anything, I use my laptop. The tablet isn't even close to a laptop replacement.
propably (Score:2)
"The Death of the PC" (Score:1)
Has been largely overblown it seems. People aren't just upgrading PCs less, they're upgrading EVERYTHING less.
why not? (Score:2)
if that $699 tablet can have $40 rough-and-tumble stunt doubles in the house or minivan or tent, only the Chinese who were shrewd enough to make these low-power bargain-bin placemablets will call step 4. PROFIT!
Honestly, (Score:2)
Nobody is developing new software on them (that
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Clearly, a tablet is not for you. That doesn't mean it's bad for everyone.
My mother-in-law has a lot of trouble with computers. She has no trouble with the low-end Android tablet we gave her, and uses it constantly. She uses more bandwidth than I do, and I thought I was a fairly heavy user.
I wanted a letter-sized screen that I could use in portrait mode easily, to read PDFs (primarily assorted game rules).
There's more people who play casual games than the bigger ones like Call of Duty. If you wan
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Any Android tablet should be able to connect to a Bluetooth keyboard (just like any Android phone). I don't know about iOS but Android is by far the largest number of devices anyway.
Re:trololo (Score:4, Informative)
iPads, and even iPhones, can connect to Bluetooth keyboards and use them just fine. In fact, some UX exists solely if you have a keyboard, such as the Cmd-Tab task switcher. The iPad Pro models also have the smart connector keyboards. They're pretty decent - as a touch typist I have no problem using them.
That said, an onscreen keyboard is fantastic when you just want to hold the device in your hands. Would I want to do a ton of typing that way? Absolutely not. But when it's useful, it's incredibly useful.
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i thought you can only use bluetooth for handsfree on idevices
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I don't know if Apple tablets can do this but I'm sure they can: most Android tablets' USB port is really a USB-OTG port. You can connect a normal USB keyboard them just fine. I've built my own tiny keyboard for ergonomics, but it's also a great tablet keyboard.
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iPads, and even iPhones, can connect to Bluetooth keyboards and use them just fine.
But not a mouse (on Android it works fine).
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Any Android tablet should be able to connect to a Bluetooth keyboard (just like any Android phone). I don't know about iOS but Android is by far the largest number of devices anyway.
Careful! Android lovers all hate bluetooth now that the headphone jack's been removed from the iPhone 7, and the hipsters all say they connect with bluetooth headsets.
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As if typing on a physical keyboard (wired or not) is in any way analogous to headphone listening (wired or not).
Welcome to the land of whoosh!