VR Tested by NFL To Confront Sexism and Racism (usatoday.com) 178
More than $8 billion a year is spent on diversity training which a Harvard professor believes is largely ineffective. So later this year the NFL will also try using new VR scenarios from Stanford's Virtual Human Interaction Lab. "We want to be known as the best place to work," says NFL vice president Troy Vincent," while Dropbox's head of diversity says she's also had conversations about eliminating bias in job interviews by conducting "blind" interviews using avatars. The Stanford lab's scenarios place users in unsettling situations -- for example, angry harassment by white avatars while the user's avatar is black. "I'm not saying, 'Put on a VR goggle and you've solved racism'," says the Stanford lab's director. "But I'm optimistic it can help."
tl;dr (Score:3, Funny)
"I'm not saying, 'Find a topic that's fashionable if you want a lot of grant money'," says the Stanford lab's director. "But I'm optimistic it can help."
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I'm surprised it hasn't been done before. VR has been used to help with PTSD for years now. Before headsets, when it was just FPV on a screen.
Helping to put yourself in the shoes of others seems like a good way to increase understanding. I just hope it's done well, otherwise people will react angrily.
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Elite white guys thinking that little computer models of black people will help increase empathy for the latter is, frankly, insulting.
Actually, the idea is that they are putting you in the role of a black person (or whatever) to try to show you what the experience is like. I think it's a solid idea. Even a book can do that for you, but not everyone experiences immersion while reading. VR is immersive by nature.
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As opposed to reality?
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You can't actually experience things from other people's point of view in reality.
There is an ability called empathy that lets you get get close, but it only works if you have at least some overlapping experience to build on and a sense of relating to the people involved. This can be built (over many years) through conversation and observation, but very few people have either the desire or the willingness to engage in that.
If this is a short-cut to effective empathy - then it will have good and positive out
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But the extent to which we commonly identify with video game characters is fairly dramatic. There's probably still people crying over Aeris.
While games, movies, or just art in general can certainly affect people strongly, I would almost think that people like that probably have some kind of emotional disorder that they need to work through as well. It's one thing to lack empathy to the degree that they turn into evil shits, but still being emotionally torn up over something that's not real doesn't sound emotionally healthy either. There was a lot of worry (perhaps overreaction) years ago over people getting sucked into online games and becoming
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You should get an interview and wear one of these. When they make you play the part of a woman, you should play it like it's a martial arts video game and just start attacking the first person you see like you would a mortal combat character. Well, assuming they're virtual people and not real life people. If they're real life people you'll definitely not get the job. You could be Chun Lee from Street Fighter II. I bet they won't have programmed in a response for that. It will also be funnier than hell. If
Re:tl;dr (Score:5, Interesting)
Of course, some people are just not ever going to get the message. Not everyone has empathy, even when beaten with it.
It's not just about empty or "getting the message". Where I live, people generally don't want to hire Moroccans, but would be happy to hire a Korean. And it has nothing to do with skin color, but everything with past experiences with Moroccans. They generally show up late, use sick leave as vacation, have little respect for customers or superiors, have poorer education and sometimes even steal stuff from the company. Of course, these are generalizations, but they don't come from a vacuum, they are based on day to day experiences. On the other hand, in the Moroccans stores, you don't find any non-Moroccans working there, and very rarely do you see a woman.
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Do people have a right to not "get the message"? Or should the thought police come and arrest them? Just curious how far this goes.
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Of course they have a right, and of course they shouldn't be arrested... but that does not mean we can't, as a society, encourage people to make choices that actually promote a healthy, harmonious (and thus prosperous) society - indeed, failing to do so would be grossly negligent by anybody who can see that diversity is a fundamental requirement for a successful team/organisation/company/city/country.
Limited or myopic viewpoints have never, in all of history, had anything but bad outcomes. We cannot and sho
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Forget about Aeris... I'm still upset about Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie!
Re: tl;dr (Score:2)
You mean they put you in the role to show you what the SJW interpretation of the experience of being black is like.
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World Peace and the walled garden of eden (Score:3)
If VR can cure anything as ingrained as Sexsim then why settle for that. We need mandatory worldwide mind programming to instill world peace. Facebook can do this for us using a combination of their Oculus and their walled internet garden of eden, while turning a profit on subliminal advertisements.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss (Score:3)
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Perhaps if there is no quick fix that actually works particularly well, and it's not acceptable to simply give up, then the best you can do is keep trying things and hope that they at least help a little.
Racism and sexism (and other social biases) are deeply rooted things; by and large, people who grow up exposed to racist and sexist attitudes in their family and community for their whole lives will end up having racist and sexist attitudes deeply embedded enough that no practical amount of training is goin
Re:Meet the new boss, same as the old boss (Score:5, Interesting)
Basically the people who constantly push these programs don't tend to follow the science to find the most effective ways to go about doing it so they just end up failing, wasting time and money, and alienating the people they're trying to connect with and it seems like with many they refuse to try to do anything different. It's just another case of trying to be tough on crime or ratchet up the drug laws even more because it's about appearing to do something or people simply feeding their own egotistical desire to feel like they're changing the world rather than doing something that's actually good.
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You do realize that that is an extremely strong statement? I mean, giving me the same opportunities as, say, Steven Hawkings would require inventing a brain augmenter of some kind, and giving Mr. Hawkings the same opportunities as me would require curing his paralysis. And of course, even then, he'd be several decades older than me...
Heck, taken seriously, your statement makes you a ultra-hardline communist, in the orig
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We're not all the same but deserve the same opportunities, nothing more, nothing less.
You do realize that that is an extremely strong statement?
No, I don't. And you don't either. It's quite clear that the original poster didn't advocate making everyone equally competent in all endeavors. Opportunity doesn't mean competence, training, ability, etc.
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Opportunity doesn't mean competence, training, ability, etc.
It does in the world of democrats. Thats why he went there in spite of all the obvious reasons why he shouldn't.
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Yes, he did. He probably didn't mean to, which is why I pointed this out to him.
See, that's the problem: I don't think "equal opportunity" means anything in conservative rhetoric. It's simply a way to handwave away the problems inherent in the conservative value system by claiming you support equality in some abstract sense which has no ef
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See, that's the problem: I don't think "equal opportunity" means anything in conservative rhetoric. It's simply a way to handwave away the problems inherent in the conservative value system by claiming you support equality in some abstract sense which has no effect on the actual, extremely inequal outcomes. That would be fine if this was just some philosophical debate, but people have to live with those outcomes.
Look, your argument is stupid. Words have meaning and in this case opportunity != outcome. I find it interesting how you have this considerable willful misunderstanding of someone's argument while this AC summed you up quite well.
The current push amongst the "social justice" left is equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity.
It reminds me of Vox Day's three laws of the Social Justice Warrior [americanthinker.com]: always lie, always double down, and always project. You willfully misinterpret someone's words in order to make an embarrassing terrible rhetorical argument and then double down through your above rationalization.
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It's nice to see someone trying to follow things through to their logical conclusions--to discover the problems in ideas that haven't been carefully scrutinized.
Hardly anyone really questions: "what does this *really* mean?"
I notice people regurgitating the same sound bites all the time, believing they have some sort of independent mind, yet never straying from the obvious dogmas of their in-group, and having "debates" in which the boundaries of thought are pre-constrained.
It's no wonder we are going ar
Re:Sexism and Racism (Score:5, Interesting)
Calling an opponent a sexist or a racist are sure fire ways to ostracize them and shut them up. Ironic the left is so opposed to bullying then bullies people it disagrees with and calls them names. We're not all the same but deserve the same opportunities, nothing more, nothing less. Stop with the name-calling.
As a clear example of the OP's point, one need only look to how the media covers the Trump campaign.
Trump notes that a portion (a subset) of illegal (intersect another subset) immigrants (intersect yet another subset) as rapists and murderers, and this is somehow interpreted to mean that he's a racist.
He fails to remember who David Duke is (temporarily, I might add), and suddenly he's a KKK member.
He insults a man and a woman in one breath, and since one of them was a woman, he's suddenly got a "war on women".
He insults individuals he doesn't like. The women insults are selected, distilled, and made into a campaign ad [pjmedia.com].
A quick google of "Donald Trump's war on *" shows he has a:
. war on women
. war on Megyn Kelley
. war on the media
. war on Chivalry (wtf?)
. war on people with disabilities
. war on comedy (wtf?)
. war on Muslims
. war on anchor babies
And these are only the first 2 pages! The list is endless!
Googling "Donald Trump is *" shows that he is:
. Satan
. Hitler
. crazier than April Fools' Day
. the most dangerous man in the world
. the next Barack Obama (wtf?)
. Stalin
. Mussolini
All this completely ridiculous rhetoric, people are falling over themselves to paint Trump in the most possible bad way.
(After writing that last line, I had a thought and... yep, Cthulhu [washingtonpost.com] supports Donald Trump. And this came from the Washington Post! WTF?)
And the worst part of all is this: I don't have the first idea how well Trumps position stacks up against those of Cruz, Clinton, or Sanders.
In fact, I don't know even *what* the other candidates even stand for.
Trump: We'll bomb the shit out of ISIS and torture their families
Clinton: "Today’s attacks will only strengthen our resolve to stand together as allies and defeat terrorism and radical jihadism around the world"
What will Clinton do if elected? I haven't the first idea. ...all I know is that she doesn't have a war on women.
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That stuff is to justify doing things that everyone acknowledges are evil. They want to lie, and bully people, and hurt people, and take money from people. How do you get away with that? Claim there's "a war on [whomever] and you're fighting for [whomever] against HitlerSatan". Problem solved; now anything goes!
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He needs a war on chickens and monkeys. :P
Textbook example (Score:4, Insightful)
Trump says thing that are textbook misogyny and racism. It's as if he is literally getting them form a textbook somewhere, in order to build up his anti-establishment anti-political-correctness platform.
Textbook racism is saying that some race is inferior. It's saying that Blacks have to use separate drinking fountains, have to ride the back of the bus, and can't join the country club.
Textbook mysogyny is saying that women are inferior to men. It's saying they shouldn't go to college, shouldn't vote, and should be kept barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.
Trump has made no such pronouncements, doesn't align with *any* of the textbook norms, and his lifes history shows the exact *opposite* of the textbook examples.
In other words, he's normal.
But you are a clear example of what masquerades as political discourse. You are writing as knowledgeable about racism and mysogyny, knowing that people won't think critically about what you write.
People are trained from birth to take in information without regard to accuracy, and you are abusing that weakness to your own ends.
You are a textbook example of a shill: You're trying to fool people to promote your hidden agenda.
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I actually don't think Trump is racist.
I think he divides the workd into two kinds of people. One kind he considers superior and he'll do anything to the other kind to forward the cause of the first kind. The two kinds are of course:
1. Donald Trump
2. Everyone else.
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I was thinking more about his comments that certain women only got their jobs because of their looks, or that saying things he doesn't like must be because they are menstruating. Or that time he described a lawyer asking the court for a break to go pump breast milk as "disgusting". Those are all textbook examples.
As for racism, well let's start by not forgetting that the Justice Department sued his company for not renting to black people. Twice. More over, his language is pretty textbook. He treats racial g
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Or that time he described a lawyer asking the court for a break to go pump breast milk as "disgusting".
That is very disgusting. Not the part about the milk coming out of the breasts... the part where a lawyer thought trivial personal shit was a good reason to postpone somebodies justice, THATS fucking disgusting.
Why dont you think so? Why do you think justice has to wait for whatever trivial personal shit people can come up with? Whats wrong with you?
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It was a lunch break that had been agreed upon prior to the deposition (this wasn't during a trial). Trump decided during the deposition that no one should take any breaks.
Trump then apparently got upset and left the deposition, which could not be finished that day as planned. So, if anyone was postponing "justice", it was Trump, not the lawyer.
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It wasn't a criminal case, it was a civil case about one of Trump's companies. Not the one that refused to let property to black people, that was a different case.
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It wasn't a criminal case
Didn't say it was you dishonest racist sexist fuck.
it was a civil case about one of Trump's companies.
Yes, a court case. You know, that fucking justice shit that dishonest racist sexist fucks think only applies in criminal cases.
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And you accuse the "SJWs" of screaming racism and abuse?
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I was thinking more about his comments that certain women only got their jobs because of their looks, or that saying things he doesn't like must be because they are menstruating.
Neither of those things are examples of misogyny. An attack against individual women is not an attack on all women. You need to read a dictionary definition of misogyny. Here's one here [dictionary.com].
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Re:Sexism and Racism (Score:4, Insightful)
It's not inaccurate. In today's politics, you're very likely to be called a racist or bigot by people on the Left if you disagree with their solutions to problems. Saying you don't believe in affirmative actions, for instance, can get you called a racist. How is being against one possible solution mean you hate black people? Heck, just by saying I'm a Republican, I'm automatically called a racist by many. The word "racist" is being thrown around so much now, that it has lost most of it's meaning.
If you want to talk about history and disadvantage, most every race, ethnic background, religion, etc has been discriminated at one time or another in history. It's how each of those groups fought their way out of it that has differed. Playing the victim card does not work.
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In other words, it was true in the past.
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Um, no they are not. They have bought into the revisionist bullshit. Democrats are the party of slavery, Jim Crow, and the KKK. This is historical fact.
What you are referring to is the Dixiecrats. After the civil war, The majority of thites in teh south would never dream of voting Republican - the party of the dreaded A. Lincon, and the archetects of the great war of Northern Aggression. So they were Democrats.
Eventually, as the Democrats over further left, The Republican party initiated the Southern Strategy. And the parties switched. Yes, you ar right, but the Democrats that were the Racist Dixiecrats are now the Racist Republicans of the south. This
Re: Sexism and Racism (Score:2)
No, the Democrats that were the racist "Dixiecrats" (they were just called democrats before the revisionist term was created) are all dead. They didn't become anything but dirt. There have have been entirely new generations of racist Democrats that replaced them.
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They don't have a newsletter, but you can always subscribe to Anne Coulter's twitter.
Gotcha, well played.
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slavery, Jim Crow, and the KKK.
You're right, and we have a word for that kind of Democrat today: Republican.
So Republicans are advocating these things? You are delusional. Oh and when did you quit beating your wife?
Re: Which shows how its like racism... (Score:4, Interesting)
Kind of like how people assume anyone who is black is poor, helpless, and too lacking in education and intelligence to even figure out how to get an ID to vote.
Re: Sexism and Racism (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm part black and I'm comfortable saying that black people should stop being thugs and glorifying the gang culture. I believe I'm being honest when I say why it has some appeal and why they might do so. That is not an excuse. The white kids shouldn't be emulating it and doing the same damned things. And, seeing as I'm asking for wishes, can I get some equality in the halls of justice?
But yeah, those black people should stop being thugs and seeing that as a role model to look up to. There are many problems in the black community that come from within the community. One can have that discussion without being a racist. In fact, if people would stop decrying anyone who brings it up as a racist, then maybe you could have that conversation. But that'd require rational thinking and cooler heads.
"You shits be trippin' yo. Punk ass cracker, fliping his shit. Feel me? Bitch. flapin' and flopin' and stroke right out there on the floo'. You feel me? Down there doing the fish and shit. Nigger be trippin, hear me? What, you shook son? You ain't scaret now are you? Shit nigga..."
Translated from a South Eastern United States, Gulf-Region Ebonics, that translates to: You two dumb-asses are going to have a stroke because you spend all your time finding shit to be irate about. The both of you will find offense, even if you have to manufacture it. You'll see slight where none is intended and you'll and the best part about it is that if you stopped and listened to each other then you'd probably find out you have a lot of the same concerns and far more pressing matters.
I'd even speculate that it's beneficial to some (though it might not be intended but would be a great side affect) to keep the masses scrabbling at each other instead of trying to claw their way upwards.
Oh, that's actually about what I think a few of my relatives would say. It's just how they talk. I don't really like it either. They're actually not felons or anything. They're pretty normal people. The best part about it is the two that I'm specifically thinking of - that talk about like that, are really from Nova Scotia. And yeah, they do speak a different language than you do. There's actually lots of dialects of American English. Some of them are even officially recognized by fancy talking linguists. That actually might be fairly accurate. I've been down in the Florida panhandle since December. I've had a little practice - to the bemusement of the missus.
At any rate, yeah. I'm part black and am pretty happy saying the thugs that were acting out were being thugs and acting out of line. They're a discredit to their species but they're certainly not alone in that and not that because of the color of their skin. They're that way because they choose to be. That's what makes it even worse.
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Meanwhile, people like you never seem to notice when Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson talk about issues within the black community, and try to harp on the subject as if they should speak out, but the thing is, you aren't even part of the conversation enough to notice when they do.
I presume you're retarded. There's little other choice but to reach that conclusion at this point. If you read my posts then you'd not say stupid things like that. If you haven't read my posts then you know shit about me and "people like" me. Holy shit... Just, holy shit. Who are these people like me? No, never mind. I really don't have the patience today.
Re:Sexism and Racism (Score:5, Insightful)
Singling out "the left" is inaccurate.
Ok, who else calls opponents sexist or racist? Or uses that behavior as a means of ostracism? I just don't see the inaccuracy myself.
The problems of the real world exist and are caused by history and economics which position classes at a disadvantage.
The reason people die at 70 years of age instead of 1,000 is not because they were in the wrong class of people or economically disadvantaged. Sure, some of our biggest problems, particularly poverty and overpopulation, can be not too inaccurated viewed through the lens of class warfare, but a lot of other problems can't.
Adjusting to eliminate that disadvantage requires changing biases in how individuals are judged for job placements and promotions.
Changing biases to what? What I see here is replacing one set of biases with another (and the latter set may be more biased and more of a problem than the former).
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Singling out "the left" is inaccurate.
Ok, who else calls opponents sexist or racist?
I'm part of the "left" and I've been called racist and sexist right here on Slashdot by people on the right. It's actually one of the most common arguments against any effort to help underprivileged minorities that is made by the right, e.g. scholarships targeting black kids are racist.
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In fact, if you just scroll down a bit you will find Gravis Zero making this exact argument, accusing people on the left of racism and sexism. If you check his posts he seems to take a right wing position on most subjects.
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I'm on the left but I find it deeply offensive that I as a white heterosexual male am considered guilty of other people's crimes. When certain loud obnoxious people stop doing that and even worse dismissing men's problems as irrelevant we'll all get along a lot better.
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When certain loud obnoxious people
Who, exactly? I've yet to actually find anyone who isn't an obvious troll actually saying that. Name some names so we can examine exactly what they said.
Re: Sexism and Racism (Score:4, Informative)
This [theguardian.com] is a good example. I am not to blame for rapists. Rapists are to blame for rapists. I have no influence over the behaviour of people I don't know. I am not some asshole frat boy or rape apologist and I have zero influence over those who are. Those are the kind of people who used to bully me at school and equating me with them is incredibly insulting.
Here's another one [theguardian.com]. I'm not a murderer or a rapist. I don't harass women on the internet. I have no interest in Gamergate. But because I share the same genitalia with bad people it's my fault too.
Dismissal of male suicide [theglobeandmail.com]. A small amount of men are rich and powerful so those of us who aren't and that suffer from mental illnesses don't deserve any sympathy. Four times as many men as women kill themselves every year but meh it's their fault for not embracing feminism and not a lot more complicated than that.
More [jezebel.com] white men have all the power. No I don't. I'm not even a manager, never mind a CEO.
There's plenty more bollocks like this about and this isn't the rantings of Twitter trolls but mainstream media journalists.
If your plan is to rebut me by trotting out some shit from the Daily Mail, then I'm not interested. Just because they're a bunch of tossers doesn't mean Jessica Valenti et al get a free pass to be sexist and racist towards people that have done nothing wrong and actually would rather be supporters and an allies. Telling us that our problems are irrelevant and that everything that's wrong in the world is our fault is a good way to get us to stick two fingers up and walk away.
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I'm part of the "left" and I've been called racist and sexist right here on Slashdot by people on the right.
Wouldn't have happened if a) your side didn't do it to the point of extreme cliche, and b) it weren't usually true.
It's actually one of the most common arguments against any effort to help underprivileged minorities that is made by the right, e.g. scholarships targeting black kids are racist.
Here is an activity that targets people based on their ethnicity. Of course, it's racist. It doesn't matter that someone thinks the ethnicities in question are under- or overprivileged. What makes this any different from the KKK sponsoring scholarships for poor, white southerns?
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The right just tends to avoid the actual words, and phrase it like the following few options (strangely not realising that by doing so they are outing themselves as racists and sexists):
We call these things straw men arguments. And I can't help but notice that your examples do not actually support your claim.
It is a contributing factor, as repeated societal research keep showing again and again and again. I'm not even going to try to list examples, as a simple Google search on "impact poverty health" will yield you tons of references, which will show you that people in poor classes also have trouble escaping their position. Special programs do help there.
Which is a dumb argument. Your stupidity is a contributing factor to the world's problems (after all, if you were vastly smarter than the smartest humans, you could develop technology to solve or mitigate most of these problems) yet I don't blame your stupidity for the world's problems.
Tactic used: Reframe the discussion by contrasting the "unacceptable" position shown by a possibly-left-oriented-individual with the danger of potentially horrible changes that such a position would cause to the living standard of the well-off majority group*, to induce a feeling of "me too" in people who are insecure with regards to their societal position (i.e. "class") and will protect that position in any way possible from perceived threats.
I think we see the "potentially horrible danger" right here. You went through the effort of writing t
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It's this attitude that everyone can be trained. It's unrealistic.
While this probably isn't completely true, here's the bottom line for you. The NFL is deathly afraid like practically every other major corporation of a massive pay-out and the reputation tarnishing a high-profile discrimination lawsuit would bring so they're covering their bases. And the people that create these kinds of courses are laughing all the way to the bank because there is such a juicy market for the shit they're peddling. Follow the money.
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It's funny how right wingers say this, in spite of them never actually shutting up, because if they didn't, there'd be no weight to their persecution complex.
So by accusation you are attempting to literally ruin someones life, and you have decided that they should shut up about it, and when they don't you have decided that that is evidence of a persecution complex.
Hint: To have a persecution complex, its probably necessary to not be persecuted.
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VR Researcher: We need money to carry on making pretty 3D environments.
Other VR Researcher: If only we could find a big organization with lots of money.
All together: THE NFL!! Yeaaaahhhh!
Judge: You evil NFL guys are racist.
NFL: No we're not, we're spending a ton of money to combat racism using cutting edge VR technology.
Judge: Oh - OK then. Carry on.
Nobody actually knows whether this approach will work in actually combating racism - but nobody involved cares about that part.
IMHO, putting on VR goggles and seeing the person you're interacting with in 3D graphics is no better than seeing it on a 2D screen - and decidedly inferior to doing role-play with an actor. Which do you think is cheaper? VR research or a bunch of unemployed actors?
karma police, arrest this girl (Score:1)
There has been some research into having people exist in a virtual body that is opposite their own gender, and it has led to those people identifying better with the opposite sex. The technology could reasonably be used to help different races identify with one another. However, that's not what the NFL is trying to do, what they're doing is more insidious. They're giving a new coach or staff "interviews" where they're in a virtual reality scenario in which they are suddenly yelled at by a minority. Then, if
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There has been some research into having people exist in a virtual body that is opposite their own gender, and it has led to those people identifying better with the opposite sex.
When I worked at Accolade/Infogrames/Atari (same company, different owners, multiple personality disorders), the entire QA department tested multiplayer on Unreal Tournament 2004. Everone — including the few female testers — had male avatars in the game. I went with a female avatar to standout from the pack. I would camp with the sniper rifle. When everyone got tired of the head shots and flushed my avatar out into the open, I alternated between the sniper rifle and the rocket launcher while on
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If the problem perceveres, then at some point the public/law is going to decide they aren't doing enough to combat it, at which point they have to increase the anti-racism budget. Assuming these are somewhat rational businessmen, it would seem to be in their best interests to care.
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The first step for combating racism.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Is not being racist yourself, which you are if you support the so called "social justice", given the fact the thing basically make you segregate the general population by gender, race and sexuality, instead of taking care of actual individual problems like poverty, lack of education and oppression by governments and big corporations etc..
There is no such thing as "positive racism".
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The goal of the social justice movement is to break down barriers and segregation. I think where you may be confused is that occasionally it is necessary to segregate in a non-discriminatory, fair way, e.g. girl's and boy's locker rooms. The social justice movement is pragmatic about it.
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The goal of the social justice movement is to break down barriers and segregation by labeling everybody who disagrees that this is the social justice goal as racists, sexists, or homophobes.
Fixed that for you, douchebag.
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And racism against "oppressed groups" is not racism anymore if you use politically correct words and pretend to help em somehow.
head of diversity? (Score:4, Insightful)
if you are seeking to have diversity occur then you are actively discriminating based on a prejudice which results in racism, sexism, ageism, etc. everyone needs to stop this "diversity" bullshit and hire people based on their qualifications.
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You will never fix this as long as our society is based on greed.
Bullshit! If society were actually based on greed, there would be no racism, sexism or anything else like it because businesses only care about one color, green! You need to check your premises somewhere.
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Fuck yourself.
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Boy, you sure told him, and the other two! Brilliant and witty! We award you one gold star for the demonstration of intelligence and one gold star for your touch of class.
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Ideal capitalism maybe, but not in the real world.
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Ideal capitalism maybe, but not in the real world.
No, that's what capitalism is. If someone is doing something else, it's not capitalism.
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They are right that the government can fix it. After all, the government broke it. But that wont happen and not because of corporations. That wont happen because of people. The greedy self-serving fu
No Fucking Way (Score:3)
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You do if you're government subsidized and need to make your political masters happy:
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/3... [cnn.com]
Probably isn't going to work. (Score:3)
A researcher has previously investigated controller-avatar interactions, specifically, if the player (this is video-games related) identifies with their avatar:
"Players do not automatically take on the role of characters/avatars. Playing as a character that is ostensibly “other” to you (in terms of gender, race, or sexuality) is not necessarily transgressive or perspective-altering. Playing as a character that is like you (in terms of demographic categories) does not necessarily engender identification."
"This calls into question both the educative benefits and the marketing benefits of playing as a main video game character that is a member of a marginalized group."
Limitations: Note that the sample for this paper did not involve what the researcher describes as "White male gamer", the researcher draws conclusions from a small sample. Also note that the paper does not seem to be peer reviewed.
Source: http://www.digra.org/wp-conten... [digra.org]
It's not *proof* of anything but it may suggest that VR interactions, like games, do not guarantee any identification between the subject and their avatar. In fact, it may be counter-productive; those who are asked to take part in the intervention/training may ask why it is that they're assumed to be racist.
Walking in NYC (Score:3)
You can already experience 10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Man [youtube.com] ("Hey, Harvard, wanna network?"), Walking in NYC as a Homosexual! [youtube.com] ("Pants a little too tight homie"), 10 HRS Walking While Black in NYC [youtube.com] ("Call me Cruella, I like my black on white."), and 10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Puppy [youtube.com] ("Come back to my house, I got some good meat for you."). FYI, the puppy experienced by far the most numerous and most vile forms of verbal harassment, plus "numerous winks, unsolicited tummy rubs, and non-consensual tug-of-war games."
Uh, seriously? (Score:3)
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Ask when you can expect someone to be sensitive to you and your culture and your situation.
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Ask when you can expect someone to be sensitive to you and your culture and your situation.
As a fat conservative white male, I can't and don't expect that. I just check my white privilege at door and give everyone the same respect. I haven't had an issue with anyone in years.
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Why shouldn't you expect it? Because person A is worthy of respect and sensitivity and person B isn't? Is person B subhuman and not worthy of respect and sensitivity? Are fat conservative white males subhuman? Because ... wrong gender, wrong skin color?
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Why shouldn't you expect it?
Because white privilege is no longer the social norm it used to be. I live in California where white people are a minority in a minority-majority state. If I get on the bus, I may be the only white person, four or five languages other than English are being spoken, and some are born outside of the United States. I find this perfectly normal.
My extended family in Idaho are horrified by this. They expect everyone to speak English, they expect minorities to know their place (i.e., Chinese in Chinese restaurant
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One wrong doesn't excuse another.
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The privilege to be more likely to die on the job than a woman?
That's unlikely to happen. I take care of myself and have a 40-hour per job.
The privilege to be less likely to graduate from college than a woman?
I have two associate degrees, one in General Education (1994) and Computer Programming (2007). A handful of technical certifications. Might take professional development courses in project management if I can afford the $700 per class fee for six classes.
The privilege to die at an earlier age?
My male relatives are outliving their wives by 10 to 20 years.
The privilege to lose your kids in a custody battle by default?
That didn't happen with my brother. Of course, his first wife was a drug addict who didn't want help.
Yeah, you should be ashamed of yourself.
I'm not. Is that a
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Did your two community college degrees teach you what an anecdote is?
I learned about anecdotes from the English lit classes that I took.
Perhaps you should spend that $700 on statistics 101.
Why should I spend $700 to learn something that doesn't exist in statistics that I already learned in English lit?
Social Justice (Score:3)
The concept of approving the right mixture of racism, sexism and bigotry to gain moral superiority.
The project failed (Score:2)
Agressive VS Non-Agressive (Score:2)
You select people based on their level of aggression, and then you are surprised when they act within their nature, and behave aggressively?
Now, you want to try to change their nature?
And where are the Geek Stadiums?
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Nope. How about learning what the word means?
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I was programmed to be a sensitive guy 25 years ago when I worked in retail. As a IT technician for 20+ years who consoles hurt computers and fixes broken users, I don't need any more sensitivity programming.
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In the meantime, lets focus on actually getting these minorities the skills and desire to get to the interview in the first place.
You're overlooking the fact that many minorities are overrepresented in low-paying jobs that many white people don't want because their kids are told to go to college and get a high-paying job that doesn't require physical labor.
When it comes to professions with outsized shares of minorities, blacks are overrepresented in community and social-service occupations (as well as barbers and postal-service clerks). Asians make up a large share of computer workers, medical scientists, and personal appearance workers—a category that includes manicurists, makeup artists, and facialists. Hispanics are overrepresented in construction, maintenance, and agriculture work.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/06/diversity-jobs-professions-america/396632/ [theatlantic.com]