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Intel Launches Xeon E5 v4 Family of Processors Based On Broadwell-EP (hothardware.com) 42

MojoKid writes: Intel is officially launching a brand new series of Xeon processors today, the Xeon Processor E5 v4. The Xeon Processor E5 v4 family is based on Broadwell, specifically Broadwell-EP, though they are socket compatible with the previous generation v3 series. The new Xeon E5 v4 family, however, features a number of updates and enhancements. The Broadwell-EP based Xeon E5 v4, for example, is built using Intel's more advanced 14nm process node, and the largest chips can feature up to 22 processor cores (44 threads). The E5 v4 series still supports up to quad-channel DDR4 memory, but the maximum supported speed now tops out at 2400 MT/s, up from 2133 MT/s. Also, because of its additional cores, the E5-2600 v4 series now features up to 55MB of last-level cache. Support for 3D die-stacked LRDIMMs has been added too, along with DDR4 write CRC, and of course the higher speeds. Performance with a 2P dual-socket Xeon E5-2697 v4 system, with 36 total cores and 72 threads, rips through Cinebench in testing, unlike any desktop chip could. It's impressive to see in action.
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Intel Launches Xeon E5 v4 Family of Processors Based On Broadwell-EP

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  • More Benchmarks (Score:5, Informative)

    by zenlessyank ( 748553 ) on Thursday March 31, 2016 @05:28PM (#51819013)
    • WTF is up with this dual CPU benchmarking? why am i supposed to divide/multiply every test by 2 to see how fast something is?

      and just to make sure it's really stupid, include a single and quad cpu systems in the comparison. WTF?

      • Well, apparently you don't work with enterprise systems, or else you would be able to appreciate the benches as they are. there are many types of workloads in the enterprise and it is nice to see what kind of performance you will get in their native environment and that includes 2P systems. Many CPU's are manufactured for 2P or 4P blades/boards so their is no way to test them in single installs.
  • by known_coward_69 ( 4151743 ) on Thursday March 31, 2016 @06:38PM (#51819473)
    with everyone going to per core licensing this is just going to be another money pit. we run SQL on 12 cores and don't really need them all. we get more bang from more cache on the CPU than more cores
    • by fnj ( 64210 ) on Thursday March 31, 2016 @07:38PM (#51819753)

      with everyone going to per core licensing this is just going to be another money pit

      In what dreary, greedy, thieving, get-rich-quick capitalistic world is "everyone" going to per core licensing? Debian does not cost per core. Apache does not cost per core. PostgreSQL does not cost per core. In fact none of them cost you anything at all.

      • You know how they say playing the lottery is a tax on being stupid? Why would you offer flat-rate pricing when you have customers that will roll over and take it?

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I dont understand why you think a high core count is bad, not everyone wants a high clock speed and large cache based CPU. For highly contended VM setups this kind of lower clock massive core count CPU is perfect.

  • by steveha ( 103154 ) on Thursday March 31, 2016 @06:41PM (#51819483) Homepage

    The Mac Pro is now ridiculously stale [macrumors.com]. ("Days since last release: 833")

    I've read articles speculating [macobserver.com] that Apple might be re-designing the Mac Pro again as many of its intended users are disappointed that it has no internal expansion at all. So Apple could be sitting on a design refresh, waiting for these new chips.

    I even read speculation that Apple would cancel the Mac Pro product line, but IMHO that is very unlikely. Apple sells a lot more notebooks than Mac Pros, but I just can't see Apple walking away from a very high-margin product.

    So now that there are refreshed Xeons, maybe we will see a refreshed Mac Pro [macworld.co.uk].

    P.S. I was surprised that Apple didn't release a standard enclosure for lots of hard drives or whatever. You should have your Mac Pro and then one box with one cord, rather than a half-dozen boxes and a half-dozen cords. But I guess Apple left that for third parties such as Sonnet [sonnettech.com]. I watched the video for that Sonnet product I linked... it said that Sonnet followed Apple's guidelines for how to best mount a Mac Pro. Therefore, Apple has guidelines for third party vendors for Mac Pro mounting products.

    Even so, it's amazing how complicated the Sonnet enclosure has to be to solve the problem. Thunderbolt connectors can pop out, so they invented a retaining device that uses a bolt to keep the plug in. You need to run multiple Thunderbolt cables inside the box. And they said they were not able to offer a passthrough for Thunderbolt because Thunderbolt won't work with one (they didn't elaborate, something about needing active circuits on both ends of the connection, but I don't know why that rules out a passthrough).

    And oh boy is that an expensive way to go: buy an expensive Mac Pro, then spend another $1500 on the enclosure.

    • Base system $3000-$3500 maybe with 2 cpus.

      They don't have the pci-e lanes to have 3 TB 3 buses with 2 video cards Now if they have 2 cpus then they have 2 storage slots + 2 video cards + 3-6 TB 3 buses.

    • by sociocapitalist ( 2471722 ) on Friday April 01, 2016 @01:41AM (#51821183)

      The Mac Pro is now ridiculously stale [macrumors.com]. ("Days since last release: 833")

      Apple has been letting all of their computer products go stale (they're almost all red and 'Don't Buy' on the buyer's guide http://buyersguide.macrumors.c... [macrumors.com]). I've been waiting for a substantial macbook pro or even air upgrade for awhile now and even at the March announcements when I hoped for Skylake CPU upgrade announcements...nothing.

      It seems to me that Apple's priorities are phones and tablets and that anything that isn't a phone or a tablet just doesn't have their focus at the moment. Maybe because we can get by on the very stale but still very usable hardware that we bought years ago without actually NEEDING a hardware refresh, or maybe phones and tablets just generate relatively more profit for them. I don't know.

      • Watch for an A8-based tablet with a "Mac Mode" and KVM expansion at this or the next WWDC. Almost nobody needs a Mac Pro, relative to Apple's market share. At $800 billion or whatever, the margins don't matter to them - what matters is the opportunity cost of having those (excellent) engineers not working on products that many more people will purchase.

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        Apple has been letting all of their computer products go stale (they're almost all red and 'Don't Buy' on the buyer's guide http://buyersguide.macrumors.c... [buyersguide.macrumors.c] I've been waiting for a substantial macbook pro or even air upgrade for awhile now and even at the March announcements when I hoped for Skylake CPU upgrade announcements...nothing.

        It seems to me that Apple's priorities are phones and tablets and that anything that isn't a phone or a tablet just doesn't have their focus at the moment. Maybe because we c

  • Is it still so horrendously gimped in the memory handling that I can't run a 4S/4GPU configured node, and am stuck with 2S/3GPU nodes instead as my best option?

    If so, no dice for me.

  • I've been trying to buy them for weeks! The performance is impressive, though.

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