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Microsoft Finally Rolls Out Windows 10 Mobile To Older Phones (engadget.com) 44

An anonymous reader writes: One year after Windows 10 Mobile was announced, Microsoft is finally rolling out their new OS to older mobile devices, specifically devices running Windows Phone 8.1. Here's the complete list of supported phones: Lumia 1520, 930, 640, 640XL, 730, 735, 830, 532, 535, 540, 635 1GB, 636 1GB, 638 1GB, 430, 435, BLU Win HD w510u, BLU Win HD LTE x150q, and the MCJ Madosma Q501. Depending on where you live and which carrier you have, the update will be handled differently. Microsoft has said "many older devices are not able to successfully upgrade without an impact on the customer experience." For an OS that continues to lose market share [to] iOS and Android, it makes sense for Microsoft to be so concerned about the user experience as it is crucial for the success of Windows 10 Mobile.
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Microsoft Finally Rolls Out Windows 10 Mobile To Older Phones

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  • Luckily my phone is not on the list, or I'd have to disable updates/buy an older one.
  • What about the iMate Jasjar, Jamjar, Jambon and those? Will they support it?
    • by gl4ss ( 559668 )

      they're stuck on 6.5 forever and htc quit selling/rebranding to them anyways long ago.

  • by penguinoid ( 724646 ) on Thursday March 17, 2016 @04:42PM (#51717935) Homepage Journal

    For an OS that continues to lose market share [to] iOS and Android, it makes sense for Microsoft to be so concerned about the user experience as it is crucial for the success of Windows 10 Mobile.

    A major factor in user experience is trust. Without trust, you can't use the software at all. With barely any trust, you have to verify that each update won't introduce nefarious anti-features, nor change your settings or other evil things -- and you have to verify it from someone other than the company. Makes it really hard, stressful, and time-consuming to use that software.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      And how exactly do all the iPhone and iPad users do that with their products? How do all the Samsung, HTC, LG, etc users do it? Do you think the millions upon millions of people that use Google Play Services are having a hard and stressful time using it or do they just trust Google because of their ass-covering motto?

      This is absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with trust and everything to do with being late to the game with a product that is not disruptive. Windows Phone is not a bad operating system, it is

      • "And how exactly do all the iPhone and iPad users do that with their products? How do all the Samsung, HTC, LG, etc users do it?"

        They don't use Microsoft garbage, dumbshit.

    • A major factor in user experience is trust. Without trust, you can't use the software at all.

      For you maybe, but not for the 6 billion other people on the planet who trust their life to just about any 3rd party corporation.

      • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

        Whilst that is accurate for mobile phones and tablets it is no longer holding true for desktops which are pretty much reverting to the late 1990s and early 2000s power users. So M$ choosing to dick those users about in a shrinking PC market really doesn't make any sense.

  • There have been reports that all eight owners of older Windows phones have mixed feelings about this upgrade.

  • Windows Phone, Windows Mobile, Windows CE? While I believe the last one is relegated to embedded devices, what is the right name for the Microsoft OS for the phones, since I always seem to hear a new variation?

    • Windows Phone NNN for v7.0 - 8.1. Commonly abbreviated WPX (WP8)
      Windows Mobile NNN for 6.5 and down, though MS did try re-branding 6.5 as Windows Phone right before WP7 shipped. Abbreviated WinMo or WMX (WM6)
      Windows 10 Mobile (note the order) for the new version. Abbreviated Win10 Mobile or W10M.

      Yes, it's terrible and stupid. Microsoft branding sucks and pretty much always has. Sometimes I want to know where they *find* these idiots.

      None have anything to do with Windows CE (WinCE) except that the CE kernel

  • by xeno ( 2667 ) on Thursday March 17, 2016 @04:56PM (#51718035)

    I picked up a Win8 phone back while working at MSFT, in an effort to be a good corporate citizen. Never really used it much, so it stayed in pretty good clean shape. When one of my teen kids broke or screwed up their phone (all too often), it was handy to have a spare they could use. It was also handy to have around when they misbehaved by spending too much time or data using their phones; swapping this one in curtailed their usage just by being itself. Fewer apps, limited access because they aren't bought into the Live/msft account ecosystem, generally iffy UI, etc. I find it very useful. They don't appreciate that.

    TL;DR: My kids refer to the spare Windows phone as "the punishment phone"

    • by b0bby ( 201198 )

      I don't call it that, but that's how I use mine too. In fact, my oldest is using it right now since she lost her iPhone. She's saving her pennies to get another iPhone asap. I can't convince them to go Android, but if it's their own money I don't really care.

    • by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Thursday March 17, 2016 @05:27PM (#51718247) Journal

      My kids refer to the spare Windows phone as "the punishment phone"

      Lol, so true, so true.

      I was speaking with my son the other night and he wants to replace his Galaxy S6.

      I said, "What about a Windows phone?" and then we both just laughed and laughed. It was like I'd told the funniest dad-joke ever.

  • "Microsoft Finally Rolls Out Windows 10 Mobile To Older Phones, Both Customers Said To Be Excited"

    Out of the hundreds of people I know (including many who work at Microsoft) I know of 2 people who have Windows phones. One loves his phone, the other is looking to move to a iPhone because the Windows App Store is a "barren wasteland" (his words, not mine).

  • What's better than having privacy invasion and telemetry you can't shut off?

    Why, Privacy invasion and telemetry being sent over a limited, metered pipe that you have to pay through the nose for, of course!

    • If you get a Nokia 535 from Virgin Mobile, you have a Windows phone, that costs $40. And you can go on an unlimited data/voice plan for $35/mo with no contract. The unlimited data is, of course, throttled at 3 GB. But it's a relatively low cost way to do a smartphone.

      I use a Moto E on Virgin Mobile now. It was another $40 smart phone. I like it better than the Windows phone, but now that the Nokia will be upgradable to Windows 10 I might try it again for a bit. It's only $35 to put a month on it again

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