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NVIDIA Announces GeForce GTX 980 GPU For High-End Gaming Notebooks 90

MojoKid writes: NVIDIA is taking things is a slightly different direction today, at the ultra-high-end of their mobile graphics offering, introducing a "new" mobile GPU implementation, that's not really a mobile part at all, the GeForce GTX 980. Notice, there's no "M" on the end of that model number. NVIDIA is betting that the enthusiasts that are most likely to buy a notebook with a GeForce GTX 980 in it are savvy enough to understand the difference. Through some careful binning and optimization of the components that accompany the GPU, including the memory, voltage regulation module, and PCB, NVIDIA was able to take the full desktop GeForce GTX 980 GPU and cram it into mobile form factors. The mobile flavor of the GeForce GTX 980 features selectively binned GPUs that are able to achieve high frequencies at lower-than-typical voltages. And those GPUs are paired to 7Gbps GDDR5 memory and a heat sink with up to 2X the capacity of typical solutions. Notebooks powered by this GPU will be unlocked, and fully overclockable.The performance of the GeForce GTX 980 will also allow notebooks powered by the GPU to push multiple screens or power VR gear. NVIDIA was demoing a GTX 980-powerd Clevo notebook at an event in New York, connected to a trio of 1080P monitors, running GTA V at smooth framerates.
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NVIDIA Announces GeForce GTX 980 GPU For High-End Gaming Notebooks

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    So does the charger for this monster have a 10 gauge cable, to prevent cable overheating?

    • Actually, the power and cooling requirements might not be that bad. When the full-sized version of the 980 first appeared back in 2014, it came as a bit of a surprise. It wasn't, in some respects, the generational leap in terms of raw performance over its direct predecessor, the 780, that some had expected. But it was significantly cooler and more power efficient; startlingly so for what was, at the time, Nvidia's top-end card.

      The official specs list the power requirement of the desktop-version card itself

  • by sinij ( 911942 ) on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @01:42PM (#50576741)
    The only Gaming Notebooks that should exist are Pen&Paper.

    Why would anyone game on a ultra-light budget-oriented laptop that has no way to provide adequate cooling or power to game?
    • Why would anyone game on a ultra-light budget-oriented laptop that has no way to provide adequate cooling or power to game?

      Gaming laptops are neither ultra-light or budget-oriented. Some of them weigh over 10 lbs. because they need to be thick enough to cram the high-end GPUs and other components inside as well as the cooling system to keep it from burning a hole through a desk. They also typically cost several thousand dollars because they're using the premium components that can cost more than another person's entire system.

      I don't know why people buy something like this as it's clearly not for me. I'd rather make a mid-ra

      • by Toshito ( 452851 )

        I don't know why people buy something like this as it's clearly not for me.

        There, you said it. Different users have different needs.

        Personnaly I would never go back to a desktop. It takes too much space, and I love that I can do gaming, and browsing, and anytime I want I just pick up my laptop and bring it with me anywhere in the house.

        I could have a gaming desktop AND a cheap laptop, but then I'd have 2 machines to maintain, (on top of the 5 other laptops in my household).

        And to be sure I can acces my data on both computers, I'd have to either duplicate it or put it on a network

      • Sadly, most people want their laptops, cars with auto transmissions, and 1GB data plans (not even enough for a 90's 56K modem).

        I think it's significant that if the Oculus Rift succeed, these GTX 980 laptops will probably be the only ones that meet recommended specs. Also, current nVidias won't take advantage of important DX12 features, so they've been doing things like not overpricing new cards, GameWorks, etc.

    • Not all of us use it for gaming. Some use the the GPU for heterogeneous computing R&D.

      I use my desktop i7 + a discrete GTX 980Ti for (game) dev.

      I _also_ use a MacBook Pro with a "decent" mobile 750M for WebGL (shader) testing.

      Since I can't lug around my desktop, having a portable laptop that doesn't have a complete crap GPU is extremely convenient.

      Different strokes for different folks.

    • by epyT-R ( 613989 )

      Simple: These cards are not targeted at ultralights. What's different is that this is the desktop 980 chip in a laptop format. Normally, nvidia disables a few cores, underclocks, and adds an 'm' to the model. They didn't do that this time. Instead, they left the chip intact, binned for good ones, and modified the power regulation. Like the other high end 'm' gtx models, you'll find these in gaming machines which are way bigger and heavier than ultralights.

  • by NotDrWho ( 3543773 ) on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @01:55PM (#50576831)

    I know those words, but in that context they make no sense.

  • Now please stick in in an external Thunderbolt 3 box, so I don't have to buy a $2500 gaming laptop that weighs a stone and will be obsolete in six months when the next GPU comes out.

  • Normal part, just binned for high speed so that it still operates at the desired clock rate while powered from a lower voltage supply.

    Essentially just the best of the best will make the cut; this makes very uncertain the actual number of viable dies out of any given wafer batch.

    • They don't have to mass produce it because it's a niche product to begin with. It's probably going to be prohibitively expensive, not to mention the cooling required means you won't be seeing them in Macbooks and the like.
    • If they have been producing the part for any length of time they should be able to predict within a couple percent the number of parts per wafer run they will get.

      • by serbanp ( 139486 )

        Wafer yield is an imperfect science, you can't predict it within a couple percent what it will be except if it's very high (90% and more).

        Moreover, they're talking about binning the rare part that somehow hits the target speed at much lower VDD. I don't think one can estimate the chance of this occurring in a batch.

        • There is a reason I said wafer run, not per wafer. A run of 5000 wafers is going to generate roughly the same number of "good" parts on mature processes. Nvidia has been producing these parts for almost a year, they have the process down, they should and probably are predicting their numbers to within a few percent on a 5000 wafer batch.

  • I've got a Sager Clevo gaming notebook with an 860M, and there's nothing to hate about it. It lasts a long time on a charge. It plays most games at their highest res. It runs Linux great. It's light, with an SSD for the OS drive. It runs two external monitors when I'm using it for work. It has no DVD, so it's lightweight. It doesn't run the Nvidia card when I'm not playing 3d games (uses the onboard Intel graphics). This GTX980 on a Clevo would likely have all those same benefits. You folks trash talking ga

  • Can someone point out to this tired old man what the point of this is supposed to be? Serious question. Is it for something other than "enthusiast" market e-peen?

    Look, I get why some folks want to game on a notebook. But pretty much every single notebook with a nVidia GTX980M will play pretty much every single game at high framerates on it's screen's native res. But they've got a notebook pushing 3x1920x1080 at this NY event...is this what it's supposed to be used for? Is it really "mobile" when I nee

  • by c.r.o.c.o ( 123083 ) on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @08:42PM (#50579835)

    Until very recently I was traveling for work every week, and the gaming laptop on which I am typing this post saved my sanity and liver in plenty of hotel rooms. It is a Clevo P150SM-A, weighing in at about 12lbs including AC adapter. It was not fun lugging it around airports twice a week while waiting for connecting flights. But it did the job, and I could play Fallout, Skyrim, Bioshock, Dying Light and many other games at very respectable frame rates. Even now that my traveling days are done, I am sitting on my balcony with a cup of tea, enjoying the end of the Canadian summer. I can also set it up in my living room while my significant other is watching TV.

    I had gaming desktops for about a decade, and I just got tired of being stuck at the same desk in the evenings, while spending my mornings at a different desk in the office.

    I am aware that a laptop's performance will never come close to that of a desktop. But if you cannot understand why someone will make that trade-off, don't click reply.

    All that said, I am surprised nobody mentioned the significant issue that Nvidia has with the Windows 10 upgrade. NBR is full of reports of black screens after upgrading, and the cause seems to be the Nvidia driver overwriting the LCD EEPROM. It seems Alienwares are particularly affected, with a few Clevos as well.

    • I myself can't even stand lugging one from the living room to the bedroom! Can't wait till there's a decent one of these:

      http://www.kitguru.net/compone... [kitguru.net]

      http://hexus.net/tech/news/per... [hexus.net]

      I'd love to have it connected to the monitor of my desk and connect my slim-and-light laptop to it for gaming. Even more awesome would be the fact that one could have an enclosure and be able to even swap out the graphics card!

      • As long as you're fine having your desktop on all the time, the steam gamestream mode actually works extremely well. I built a HTPC and stuck a high end graphics card in it for couch gaming, but soon after, they made their gamestream service respectable. I moved the graphics card into the desktop and SLI'd it and instead used on-chip graphics for the HTPC. The HTPC played games as flawless as before using the streaming with better quality b/c of more power on the desktop. I'm looking forward to the stea

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