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Samsung Unveils the First Monitor That Can Wirelessly Charge Your Phone 89

Posted by samzenpus from the watch-or-charge dept.
An anonymous reader writes: Samsung wants to reduce the number of cords in your house and has unveiled a new monitor that can wirelessly charge your smartphones. Called the SE370, Samsung says the monitor is the first of its kind to have this capability. The monitor comes in 23.6-inch and 27-inch sizes. According to Samsung : The SE370 "declutters work areas by doing away with unnecessary cables and ports needed to charge mobile devices. Along with superior picture quality, enhanced visual performance and thoughtful design, the monitor seamlessly integrates advanced technologies that offer both professionals and consumers an optimal viewing and usability experience."
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  • Brilliant (Score:5, Informative)

    by Mr D from 63 ( 3395377 ) on Monday July 27, 2015 @03:20PM (#50192231)
    We stuck a wireless charger on a monitor stand. And the world will never be the same.

    Next up, first toilet tank with wireless charger.... now THAT would be a real advancement.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Remember, kids: Any advance that isn't revolutionary is worthless and stupid.

      • Sounds like something Apple would add.

        Damn Samsung, ripping off Apple's inventions before they invent them!

      • The trouble here is that the rest of the monitor is pedestrian as all hell(gosh Samsung, 1920x1080 on a 27 inch screen! I can practically taste the future...) and the presence of the charging widget in the stand suggests that you aren't going to be VESA mounting this one. If you really care about 'de-cluttering', you are much better off having your monitor float conveniently above your desk, not being stuck with the lousy stock stand.

        At least the color scheme is atrocious.

        • Hmm... I sense marketing opportunity - come up with a fancy premium stand - wireless charging, usb ports, height/tilt adjustments and all that. Have it 'universally' connect via the VERSA mounting.

          Maybe even have a right/left speaker version. ;)

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by Misagon ( 1135 )

          Another way that makes it look dated is that the aesthetic design has glossy white and translucent blue plastic is like a 1999' Apple iMac.
          Maybe someone at Samsung has nostalgia for those. I really don't.

          It appears that this monitor is a very small update of last years' S29D390H with a new stand. That screen has got pretty bad reviews for its build quality.
          The stand does not only lack a VESA mount, it is not height-adjustable either.

          It has AMD FreeSync though, so I suppose that the intended target demograph

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Bengie ( 1121981 )
      Japan has had issues in the past with toilets catching on fire. I don't think we need more of that.
    • Samsung Unveils New Energy-Wasting Monitor
      Electric companies quoted as saying "Cool!".
      Inverse square law unavailable for comment, rumored to have slit it's wrists.

    • I'd like a wireless charger in, well, pretty much every surface everywhere at work and at home and in my car.

  • ...actually that's kinda cool. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by RyuuzakiTetsuya ( 195424 ) <taiki@c o x .net> on Monday July 27, 2015 @03:21PM (#50192237)

    I was going to deride this thing as a pointless combination like a refrigerator/toaster kind of combo. When I saw the phone on the stand I looked at my own monitor. Realized my phone is sitting there with a cable plugged in...

    • There's money to be made by traditional phone manufacturers here. I typically rest my phone up against (checks) some sort of Polycom desktop phone, which I've never used and still has its peel-off plastic on the status screen. If only that could charge my phone from the Polycom instead of it uselessly taking up nearly a square foot of valuable desk space.

      • Still want a VoIP desk phone with a Qi charger, bluetooth cellphone and headset connectivity. Something where I could charge my phone, use the better handset/speakerphone of my VoIP phone and a bluetooth headset. A perfect world would also allow multiple phone ringing for inbound calls, some contact sync, and possibly calendar/task sync as well.

    • And as beta testers of Samsung's new monitor found, it adds a nice tingley feeling to your skin.

      • I know likely you are making a joke, but I highly doubt you would ever feel any kind of tingle around a QI charger. I have one a foot from my pillow, and have never had any issue.

    • I looked at my own monitor and... realized none of the 5 monitors in my home office have stands, because they are wall-mounted. Also, all of the monitors I have purchased in the last 2 years have been WQHD (2560x1440) resolution, not 1080p.

      Putting a charger in the stand might be useful for a certain percentage of their customers, but it is hardly earth-shaking and revolutionary, particularly when such a device could just as easily be decoupled from the monitor completely as its own device, thus eliminating

      • Now... if the charger also somehow wirelessly allowed your phone to interface to the screen... you'd have something, but we won't see bluetooth-like connectivity to displays for a probably five or six years down the road, at least.

        Ohh you mean like this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/smart-grid-gaming-software,3622.html [tomshardware.com]gaming keyboard does since 2013?

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Bengie ( 1121981 )
        All of my $130 gaming monitors that I've purchased in the past year are 1080p. $200 is my general max for most any single part of a computer, with a bit of give for important parts. eg Maybe $220 for a CPU or $250 for 512GB SSD instead of a $180 256GB

    • I was going to deride this thing as a pointless combination like a refrigerator/toaster kind of combo. When I saw the phone on the stand I looked at my own monitor. Realized my phone is sitting there with a cable plugged in...

      Depends on the range, if I have to stick it right up under the monitor I'd rather just have a wire keeping the phone out of my way.

    • Are you saying that you don't need the wireless, or that adds something to your life.

      I love wires and cables. They work in the many nine's reliability wise. Wireless is taking a limited resource and wasting it on something a wire does perfectly well. But more importantly, it only works like 70% of the time.

      • Well for WiFi, the available bandwidth means if I see a 50% reduction I'm still way over what my ISP can possibly provide. Also I don't really want to run Ethernet over the back of my couch or to the dining room table (or the toilet...) or may other places I find it convenient to develop software at during different times of the day.

        • Sure, for things where you move them around a lot, that may make sense for data connectivity (they have a battery). That's a special case. This is something where it's tethered to four inches from the mat anyway. And tons of people want their desktops, etc. to be wireless because it looks cool at the cost of, well, everything.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        I think you are confusing wireless charging with wifi and other data transmission protocols.

        I find Qi charging is very robust and reliable. No need to wear out the USB port and cables, just put the device down. Some poorly designed devices/chargers need careful placement, but the better ones are happy just to be dumped on the charger.

        Wireless charging doesn't use up any useful wireless spectrum. It's relatively low frequency and very short range. Or perhaps you mean the wasted energy due to wireless chargin

    • You know they have qi chargers and stands that are like 15-50$ that do the same thing. It's nothing new. It's not as if these were similar things that needed to be combined.
      Might as well put a mountain dew dispenser on a monitor and call it a revolution.

    • I really think you are onto something with that combination Refrigerator + Toaster idea. There's heat being pushed out and wasted already, and that could be concentrated and used to brown bread, or at least warm some water.

      Samsung makes appliances like these, and should really jump on the Chimera appliance bandwagon. Curved screens, Toaster + Phones, Toasters + WiFi. The marketing is easy; "We only sell hot stuff."

    • So, keep the cable. Cables are good. Except maybe for the people who think cordless mice are a good idea, because we just can't have enough batteries in our landfill. Conspicuous consumption goes hand in hand with conspicuous waste.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Sowelu ( 713889 )

        Rechargable batteries last longer than the devices you put them in.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by sims 2 ( 994794 )

        That's actually a great idea a cordless mouse with a wireless charging pad you could even disguise it as a mouse pad.

        Now that you point it out it seems like a obvious application for the tech

    • So put this [amazon.com] on your monitor stand. Universally works with all monitor brands!
  • I haven't got a phone :( I suppose I better buy one then.

  • Qi (Score:2, Interesting)

    by krakass ( 935403 )

    Between Samsung and Ikea putting their support behind the Qi standard, maybe we'll finally be able to declare a winner?

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by sims 2 ( 994794 )

      I am still waiting on one that charges by room or just within 5 to 10 ft of the charger.

      Anything less just seems a waste.
      I mean if i have to set it on top of the device why not just plug it in?

      The only way I would accept the current range is if the device was totally sealed by which I mean submersible min 300ft and by necessity used wireless charging

      • On top of what the AC said, which are all valid points, QI also enables waterproof design. No one has yet (as far as I have seen) removed the plug, but you could do so. You could also leave the phone in a waterproof case if it is thin enough and charge it right through the case. It is really nice to charge my cell phone by just dropping it into a stand, no need to hunt for wires, no need to figure which way the plug needs to be plugged in, no need to worry about damaged connectors or cables, just drop it

        • Re: (Score:1)

          by sims 2 ( 994794 )

          I have seen some nice life-proof cases but i have yet to see one that is like you said waterproof as in you can take it diving with you...no i don't expect it to get service under water but i do expect it to still work after being 30ft underwater for an hour...300ft would require a phone redesign I think the pressure would crush the phone through any case that would support a touch screen.

          Would be great to bypass the usb micro connectorsI have seen several devices with those broken off (dell venue) or so lo

          • I can't see any reason to take the phone with you diving, I took my Kyocera Brigadier out on the boat diving in the DR, but I left it on the boat. I did however take my camera down, and actually went to 10 M with it. I was amazed it survived at that depth, but it made it back.

            http://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm... [amazon.com]

            It looks like the new version is rated to 15M, but I could swear the version I have was rated to 10 Ft, and it survived 10 M.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Khyber ( 864651 )

        " within 5 to 10 ft of the charger."

        My god the amount of power you'd waste just to get a usable bit of power several feet out is staggering.

        Not to mention - you'll kill your devices faster because wireless charging makes more heat - which kills batteries. [imgur.com]

        Stick with a wire.

  • Way to go all in soldier!

    No usb ports so those other inferior devices can gtfo.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by mspohr ( 589790 )

      I really don't see any need for any plugs or ports on a smartphone. I haven't plugged my phone into anything for at least a year.
      It charges wirelessly, backs itself up wirelessly and communicates (WiFi, cellular data, NFC, Bluetooth) with everything.
      Why would I ever want to fiddle with a plug?

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by sims 2 ( 994794 )

        I would happy if they removed all the ports and made them permanently sealed preferably by o-ring for screen replacement but epoxy would be good too for cheaper phones.

        Water damage should be a thing of the past.

        • Encase those phones in a block of solid quartz. Even better if the quartz is opaque.

          • Re: (Score:1)

            by sims 2 ( 994794 )

            We haven't quite gotten to the point were we can make phones out of plates of glass/quartz like the ones in those cool looking scifi movies but with transparent conductors we may be able to get close within the next few years.

            • I didn't want it transparent, I just wanted the phones unaccessible so that the users could do something useful with their time instead of staring at the phones.

              • Re: (Score:1)

                by sims 2 ( 994794 )

                Hey I personally wouldn't mind much if it didn't have a screen at all just a keypad I can work with that

  • or just for some yet to be released model from Samsung

    And does the 27in monitor do 1920*1200

    • Re:Does this work for any phone? (Score:5, Informative)

      by silas_moeckel ( 234313 ) <silas.dsminc-corp@com> on Monday July 27, 2015 @03:46PM (#50192421) Homepage

      It is Qi so most will work it's pretty much the winner. It's only 1080P (ish since it uses AMD's sync protocol). It's a PLS panel so none of the IPS goodness.

      Pretty much is a fairly meh monitor with a qi charging puck shoved into the base they are literally a few bucks added to the BOM.

      Plenty of people have modded bases, keyboard, desks etc etc etc to add qi charging this is just a cheap gimmick to try and make a meh monitor look cool.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        It's a PLS panel so none of the IPS goodness.

        You realize PLS *is* IPS, right?
        LG owns a trademark on IPS, which is why Samsung calls it PLS, AUO calls it AHVA, ...

      • It is Qi so most will work it's pretty much the winner.

        Care to back that claim up with some stats?

        I've never seen any wireless charging technology in the wild, so I've literally no idea which one of the standards is likely to be the one that wins. From wiki-ing, I get that there are at least Qi,

        Open Dots, a competing wireless power standard promoted by the Open Dots Alliance
        PMA / Powermat, a competing wireless power standard promoted by the Power Matters Alliance
        Rezence, a competing wireless power standard

        • Open dots it's not wireless rather a contact layout.

          http://www.eetimes.com/documen... [eetimes.com] it pretty clear at this point the only one with any market penetration is Qi.

          VL-Bus predated PCI to market being the way to connect vid cards in the 486 days, PCI come out with the pentiums. SCSI was better and still is better, servers are still using SAS and most SATA devices use the SCSI protocol over the SATA bus. I can not think of a case where parallel ports vs usb was a choice maybe later generation zip drives.

          In a

          • Back from my trip. Didn't see a single wireless charging point, so it's a null consideration at the moment.

            In any event I do not see a whole lot of public wireless charging ports. Starbucks being the big one but they are using the powermat devices.

            There was a Starbucks at one of the airports, but with 7 minutes to make it from passport control to my gate, I didn't investigate. We'll have to remind the booking minions that an hour is not long enough to make it through an airport, even without added security.

  • a little rumba that comes out and vacuums up the crumbs from my desk and keyboard. If it also tossed my old napkins and put out new ones it would be perfect. Wait, what about a beer & wine cooler and a little arm that would serve me a fresh one or a refill? Innovation!

    • a little rumba that comes out and vacuums up the crumbs from my desk and keyboard.

      Make it look like an official NHL hockey puck and I'm in for 2. Or, combine a miniature Roomba with a quadracopter so it could just hover over my desk and suck up the dirt. Wait though, I guess if it's hovering it's pushing air down and all that's gonna do is blow the dust everywhere and irritate my eyes and sinuses. OK, forget that last one. But a quadracopter that could vacuum up dust (if it was physically possible) woul

  • Waste of resources (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Wireless charging is way to inefficient, and this is purely an esthetics's thing.. Bad idea even if some people do 'want it'... Should be banned like they do incandescent light bulbs; since the masses are too stupid to know better... At least with light bulbs in the north the wasted energy helps heat the home, these things just throw it off into RF..

    • It's not as bad as it could be. While charging it seems to be efficient, as good as wired charging at least. Most of that efficiency is not from the induction charging but rather from better design of power supply, so you're relying on the manufacturers actually paying attention to efficiency. What's hard to determine is what is the power leakage when the system is not used. Is it better than a wall wart (remember people, unplug those when not in use), how much power is used to detect if there's a phone

      • I don't unplug my warts. It's not your 1990s power bricks : they stay cool to the touch, well at least the USB ones.
        I could use a switch on some power supplies (no, I rarely want to kill a whole power bar or a couple nested ones)

    • I certainly miss those incandescent bulbs heating up my home on these 30+ degree days in July. /s
       

  • So, you remain in one place, silent, immobilized, inactive, and unconcious for 6 to 10 contiguous hours each and every single day of your life. But that's not enough down-time for your phucking phone.

    Maybe, just maybe, you should throw out your shitty phone, and get one that can last as long as you can.

  • Efficiency? (Score:3)

    by FrozenGeek ( 1219968 ) on Monday July 27, 2015 @06:30PM (#50193553)

    I've been wondering about this wireless charging business. It has to be less efficient than wired charging. Given the current push to reduce energy use, I'm at a loss to understand how people can be pushing wireless charging.

    • I'm at a loss to understand how people can be pushing wireless charging

      Who cares about the tiny tiny drop of energy efficience that is abandoning wireless charging when you can save many orders of magnitude more power by swapping out one incandescent bulb for an LED.

      It all comes down to a cost / benefit. The benefits of wireless charging outweigh the energy costs for those of us who find our cable messes borderline unbearable.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Qi charging is usually around 70% efficient. It's a trade off between efficiency and the energy wasted due to having to replace cables and devices with broken charging ports. Overall it's probably neutral.

  • I've also got an idea to declutter picnic areas and make picnic hampers less bulky to carry: rather than packing a table cloth and napkins, leave the napkins at home and use the corners of the table cloth to wipe your mouth.

  • So instead of putting a convenient outlet on the monitor to efficiently charge your phone ... you now get an inefficient remote charging device spewing more RF in to the atmosphere to inefficiently charge your phone/device _if_ it has the remote charge capability?

    In an era worried about the big bugaboo of 'climate change caused by man', we find yet more ways to inefficiently use resources and so contribute to the problem. How ridiculous. So screw it; saturate your home with remote chargers, leave applianc

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