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Lenovo Will Sell Ubuntu Laptops In India 77

puddingebola notes the news, as carried by Tom's Hardware, that Lenovo will soon ship laptops preloaded with Ubuntu in India. "The first of these systems will be the Lenovo Thinkpad L450, featuring only one of two CPUs, but the selection may widen over time and expand to other countries ...Overall, switching to Ubuntu reduces the system cost considerably. Currently, the standard L450 system with Windows 8.1 Pro utilizing a Core i3, 4 GB of RAM, and a 500 GB HDD costs 59724 INR ($943.02 USD). An Ubuntu version of the system with the same hardware specs, however, will only cost 48000 INR ($757.91 USD).
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Lenovo Will Sell Ubuntu Laptops In India

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  • by ITRambo ( 1467509 ) on Saturday July 11, 2015 @04:08PM (#50089795)
    The price difference is over three times what Lenovo pays for Windows Pro. I find it hard to believe that the two machines have identical Core i3 models. The link to Tom's Hardware only states that the Ubuntu version is a Core i3 500U while the Windows machine specs does not state the CPU model.
    • by alvinrod ( 889928 ) on Saturday July 11, 2015 @04:22PM (#50089857)
      It does seem rather unlikely that a copy of Windows is being billed/valued at $185.11 or that Microsoft would even charge anywhere near that much, especially considering how much they've been lowering their product cost in order to stay price competitive lately.
      • by guruevi ( 827432 )

        Some countries don't allow bundling or selling stuff under it's market value in order to prevent monopolies. In those cases, MS would have to sell Windows licenses at full price.

        • Market value... very ambiguous. What is the actual market value of a product? The regular retail price? The cnf price (not really applicable to software which doesn't have shipping cost)? Or some wholesale price? All these prices one could argue to be "market value".

          Of these, retail price would be the worst, as it would effectively lead to government-supported price fixing. Manufacturer states retail price as "market value" and all have to sell at that price.

          • by amiga3D ( 567632 )

            That is the point. You force the same price to everyone. I can't say as I think it's right but it might be the only way to deal with shit companies like microsoft.

            • Still the question: what is "market value"?

              Microsoft may simply say that the market value of a certain version of Windows (say a Laptop Edition) is $10 for a copy, and that this is to be sold pre-installed on hard disk only. Then they have the Full Version - this is sold to retailers at $100 a copy, in fancy box with CD, making the market value of this version at $100. It's easy to argue that this are different versions of the software. They may even add/remove functionality to these versions. Different pro

              • by guruevi ( 827432 )

                The way it works in some European countries (at least it did ~10 years ago, don't know if the EU changed these rules), but you would have to sell the software with no further restrictions at a set price regardless of your customer.

                Microsoft couldn't bundle or tie the software to a hardware or person; they couldn't sell just to a certain company or set of companies, they couldn't even limit the resale or number of times it was reinstalled on different machines (as long as it didn't exceed the licensed number

    • I3 with 4gb and 500 gigs? I can get that here for $300. $600 if it's "business class"...
      • Precisely. Due to work, I had to buy a new laptop, and so got an Acer Pentium w/ 4GB and 500GB. Cost was $250 (incl tax). At Microcenter. In India, all computers are directly imported from Chiwan, and they treat the Indian market like their domestic one, not like the hugely prized US market.
      • High end laptop with low end hardware and mid end price might be something very desirable, though. Low heat and good cooling, good keyboard, good display (even if not very high res - a great 1600x900 would be about right), good hinges, good battery life (in last place because virtually everyone uses a laptop with the power supply plugged in)

        And it's still closer to a video editing workstation than something to do word processing on. Though I'd like it better with 8GB RAM and 2TB HDD (or 4GB RAM and 2TB HDD)

    • In India, all software is pirated. You have to explicitly request unpirated software in order to get it. At least, that's the case w/ Windows 7: not sure that Windows 8 is pirated, but at least in India, Windows 8 is no less expensive than Windows 7 the way it was in the US.
  • i can only hope.
  • India?? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Dega704 ( 1454673 ) on Saturday July 11, 2015 @04:25PM (#50089881)

    Well when the hell are you going to sell Linux Thinkpads in the U.S., Lenovo? I had to settle for buying an x131e Chromebook and flashing the firmware.

    And what is with this 'Cheaper alternative' nonsense? Last I checked, Linux users don't choose it because they are cheapskates; if anything they are more likely to buy higher end hardware

    Disclaimer: I am fully aware that there is probably a higher demand in India, but I still had to rant.

    • I don't think Linux users is the intended market here. It's more likely a move to get lower income people to purchase. They might keep linux installed or void the warranty and install some pirated windows version. When i say void the warranty, I mean disqualify the setup for support and make it difficult to get warranty support (because the diagnostic utilities don't run right in user supplied operating systems ).

      • $750 laptops can't be aimed at lower-income people, especially in India. I've never paid as much as $750 for a computer in my life, my laptop was around $300 and my desktop around $250.

        • by Threni ( 635302 )

          You're getting really shit hardware for $250-300. Perhaps an ultraplastic piece of shit. Unless your idea of developing is using notepad to ponce around with small html files, you won't be doing any serious development on it.

          • But the target market in India ain't developers, nor is it Linux sys adms or RHCT students (okay, maybe the last). It's the low income people, and for that, $750 is out of budget, as GP said. Even $300 - that translates into Rs 18k, which is way beyond what anybody there will spend on a computer. For India, you want to put together an entire system within $150 - and then, it'll reach the normal computer buyers. If you wanna aim something at the poor, you'd need to put together a computer for $50. Maybe
            • Not an Indian. But looking at the income numbers you mentioned, it seems that this is the market that can best be served by tablets, unless you happen to be a poor software developer who needs a full-blown Intel-based PC to do your stuff. Developers are the minority of minorities. I'm probably being economically biased here, but the more successful developers probably come from background that can afford to buy $300 computers (since developing good software requires some good education that requires $$$ as

          • People doing development work on their laptop are a tiny minority in this world (/. is not representative for this world).

            Most people use their laptop for browsing, e-mail (if not in the browser), playing a movie, organising their photos, and maybe typing a resume or so. That's about it. For those people, pretty low-end hardware will do just fine.

            I've always gotten myself low-end (cheap) hardware. Last year's models. Doing fine, I can do all of the above (which is probably >90% of the time I spend with t

    • And what is with this 'Cheaper alternative' nonsense? Last I checked, Linux users don't choose it because they are cheapskates

      That's certainly supposed to be the idea, in fact cost shouldn't be the issue at all. End user funded development should be encouraged otherwise the majority of development comes from the corporate interests that pay for it. The consumer end is just driven by hobbyists.

  • And I'm a "wealthy" European.
  • Mint is the new Ubuntu.
    Ubuntu is the new Fedora.
    Fedora is the new Redhat.
    Redhat is the new Novell Linux.

  • you can buy a i3 HP with 6 gigs and a 720 gig hard drive for less than 400 bucks brand new... AT BESTBUY

    why is this chunk of shit Lenovo so expensive

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