Toshiba Introduces a Cortana Keyboard Button For Windows 10 127
Ammalgam writes: In what seems like a really pivotal moment for computing, Toshiba have indicated that they will be introducing a new button to their line of keyboards. This key would be dedicated to summoning Microsoft's virtual assistant in Windows 10 — Cortana. A dedicated Cortana key would be one of the more significant changes to the keyboard since the Windows key was added at about the time Windows 95 was introduced, in 1995.
Time to update x.org (Score:5, Informative)
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The link in your sig is dead.
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hardly revolutionary (Score:1)
I'm pretty sure this is the same department as laptop specialty keys or the play/pause/skip buttons. The Windows key is used for shortcuts and is positioned in the main grouping. Surely they aren't sticking this in the main group of keys.
Re:hardly revolutionary (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:hardly revolutionary (Score:4, Funny)
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The article starts with a picture that suggests it replaces the Esc key. (I can hear your screams of shock and pain from here.)
You're right. Initially I thought it was up in the uselss-wank row of keys that vendors like to put above the function keys, but it does appear to be replacing the Esc key. Assuming they then follow the Lenovo Carbon Gen 2 model of keyboard braindamage which is... well it's hard to describe in words, see for yourself [wfu.edu] (yes, someone actually did that on purpose, which is why you can buy Gen 2's on eBay for much less than the older Gen 1's), there'll be a quick subsequent release of a Model n+1 that undoes it
Re: hardly revolutionary (Score:2)
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Brings back memories (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh, remember all those times you used that e-mail button on your keyboard to start your mail program, or the globe button to launch the web browser. I can't even imagine life before I had those. I bet this will be just as successful!
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Unfortunately it's a toshiba, so it will stop working in a few months.
Re: Brings back memories (Score:4)
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You misspelled "fortunately".
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Is this sarcasm? ...I actually use those buttons. Calc is linked to terminal, printer to calc (i know, i know), globe is firefox, mail is mail, and the squiggle line thing that HP linked to it's crapware in Windows sits unused.
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tl;dr the windows key is useful on all platforms but windows
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Before that it was relatively harmless on its own
Unless you played games. Back in '95, the Windows key used to be known as the "crash now" key.
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By now, yes. Back then, it was such a novel thing that keyboard makers apparently could not imagine anyone wanting it turned off.
But by now, any game worth its money disables that key itself, or at least handles it gracefully if you hit it. Some games actually make use of it.
What's the windows key good for? (Score:5, Informative)
Here's a list of what it's good for, from ms's webiste and reformatted somewhat... ;)
YOU may not use these functions but they exist and I'll bet that a couple of them will be useful to you, but just a couple.
Windows key+Tab
Cycle through programs on the taskbar by using Aero Flip 3-D
Ctrl+Windows+Tab
Use the arrow keys to cycle through programs on the taskbar by using Aero Flip 3-D
Windows logo key
Open or close the Start menu.
Windows key +Pause
Display the System Properties dialog box.
Windows key +D
Display the desktop.
Windows key +M
Minimize all windows.
Windows key +Shift+M
Restore minimized windows to the desktop.
Windows key +E
Open Computer.
Windows key +F
Search for a file or folder.
Ctrl+Windows key +F
Search for computers (if you're on a network).
Windows key +L
Lock your computer or switch users.
Windows key +R
Open the Run dialog box.
Windows key +T
Cycle through programs on the taskbar.
Windows key+number
Start the program pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number. If the program is already running, switch to that program.
Shift+Windows key+number
Start a new instance of the program pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number.
Ctrl+Windows key+number
Switch to the last active window of the program pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number.
Alt+Windows key+number
Open the Jump List for the program pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number.
Windows key +Tab
Cycle through programs on the taskbar by using Aero Flip 3-D.
Ctrl+Windows key +Tab
Use the arrow keys to cycle through programs on the taskbar by using Aero Flip 3-D.
Ctrl+Windows key +B
Switch to the program that displayed a message in the notification area.
Windows key +Spacebar
Preview the desktop.
Windows key +Up Arrow
Maximize the window.
Windows key +Left Arrow
Maximize the window to the left side of the screen.
Windows key +Right Arrow
Maximize the window to the right side of the screen.
Windows key +Down Arrow
Minimize the window.
Windows key +Home
Minimize all but the active window.
Windows key +Shift+Up Arrow
Stretch the window to the top and bottom of the screen.
Windows key +Shift+Left Arrow or Right Arrow
Move a window from one monitor to another.
Windows key +P
Choose a presentation display mode.
Windows key +G
Cycle through gadgets.
Windows key +U
Open Ease of Access Center.
Windows key +X
Open Windows Mobility Center.
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Cool, most of those work on Linux Mint too.
Oh well, back to real work.
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Exactly. I've never, ever, EVER used the stupid assed Windows key, even when I was running Windows operating systems.
Oh, I have - all the time - accidentally. Used to really piss me off when I was using Windows, and I had to stop what I was doing and close the popup.
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Just hit the ESC key and it brings you right back to where you were - umm... Cursor not included. Bah, screw it. Just use the mouse.
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It's actually useful with the "e" key to bring up the "file manager"/"windows explorer" when somebody wants help and they won't let go of the mouse or they don't have an instantly available icon to click on for it.
However my keyboard doesn't even have that key and I don't miss it.
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Less frequently I use Window-D to minimize all windows and show the desktop, Windows-+ to start the magnifier program to show users something small on their display, and Window-Break to display the system page to check Windows version, RAM size, and machine name.
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Basically (Score:5, Funny)
a Clippy Key?
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Silly marketing people (Score:1)
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keyboards are used by nerds, the typical DAU uses a tablet by now.
Re:Um, Nope (Score:4, Insightful)
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There's always the mouse, but I think you're missing out on some useful shortcuts.
https://support.microsoft.com/... [microsoft.com]
I find the Windows Logo + cursor keys particularly useful.
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You probably mean Windows+Break (bring up system information).
Windows+Pause (when Shift key is held among Win and Break) does nothing.
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Escape (Score:1)
Looks like it replaced the esc key.
Now what?
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It means that if you get a Toshiba computer, you can't escape from Cortana's grip.
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There is no escape.
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Now we remap the damn key to produce an Escape keysym.
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Looks like it replaced the esc key.
Now what?
You'll have to use "Ctl+[".
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The key will be located the upper left area of the keyboard, near the function keys
But I hope they aren't planning on doing anything to the escape key.
Chromebooks have a "google/apps search" button instead of caps lock, so it's not very original.
Thank you captain obvious (Score:1)
the time Windows 95 was introduced, in 1995.
In case we thought that the 95 stood for something else.
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Shut up, Arcademan.
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Could have been 1895 or 2095.
Oh wait, you guys haven't discovered time travel yet.
Carry on.
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So Windows 10 is 5 years late.
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the time Windows 95 was introduced, in 1995.
In case we thought that the 95 stood for something else.
If it was Google who wrote Windows, we would have hit Windows 95 back in the 1980s.
Re:Thank you captain obvious (Score:5, Funny)
The Google Windows 95 beta was discontinued in 1986 after too many people came to rely on it for their daily work.
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Put in a bit of cardboard and put the cap back.
Less unsightly and sooner or later you will hit the spot by accident.
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Cardboard? Fucking casual.
The correct solution is to glue a drawing pin onto the keycap, upside down.
Windows Keys (Score:3, Funny)
Remember when Windows only needed 3 keys [imgur.com]?
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Remember when Windows only needed 3 keys?
Hell, I remember when it only needed one big red switch.
What's the onomatopoeia for an eye roll? (Score:1)
First paragraph of the article: "As an IT professional with 20+ years in the business, it’s easy to get jaded."
This is written on http://www.windows10update.com, so yeah, I agree with that first paragraph. The rest of it? Not in my lifetime. Especially the fake hype about a god damned button!
PS: How the hell does this merit a post here? And even if it did, I'd pick a better article, though I doubt that exists...
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But this is big. It's right there in TFA.
Worth reading the whole article (Score:2, Interesting)
The summary really doesn't do this article the justice it deserves. It's been some time since I've seen such a strong example of Poe's Law.
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Thanks for the headache
I hate the Windows key (Score:3)
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That is why many "gaming" keyboards offers a special "Window Lock" mode that does nothing but disabling the left Windows key ...
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I'm 38 years old Quaker. I have better motor control. You're also a stupid motherfucker
Ah yes, I can tell. Spoken like a true Quaker.
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Disgust for the convicted monopoly-abuser microsoft is a better reason for ripping off the windows key than sheer utility. In fact, a screwdriver is a pretty gentle tool - another version is if you don't buy a laptop or keyboard that has an 'in your face' ms marketing key in a prime location. Thinkpads held up for a good while. Btw. the GP probably has better motor control than you, evidenced by your untreated La Tourette syndrom, or worse, emotional need for behaving this way.
Oh my gosh, what a creation! (Score:1)
Oh! My! Gosh! What a creation! I can imagine people kicking down the doors waiting for this one!!! How will they keep the hoards from breaking the building apart when they don't have enough in stock? I can even see people bringing in their old keyboards, getting a blowtorch and getting rid of that "ESC" thing (what was that for again?), and inserting the round circle (not a 0, not an O or an o, but the CORTANA button). This single lone thing is bigger than the CPU, its bigger than electricity! This
new ruler: pivotal moments (Score:5, Interesting)
I dearly love my old Compaq keyboard, but he's a gap toothed beast ever since the "pivotal" moment where I hooked my fingernail under the exposed edge of my right-hand Windows keys and the key cap went catapulting through the air.
Another "pivotal moment" in my career was when I finally learned how to quickly hack together a user style to eliminate annoying bling on any web page I happen to visit.
I have close to 150 tiny user scripts in my inventory now, and no longer see any "social" buttons on any web site I frequent or any slider animations. As I don't actually use any social networks "share" decorations are just a visual plague so far as I'm concerned.
The worst web sites I've visited come up completely red with a giant profanity across the screen (those that pretend to offer something useful, but the hoops exceed any possible utility one might derive).
Just half an hour ago I coded up this user style:
body a {
background: yellow;
pointer-events: none !important;
cursor: default !important;
}
This makes all links on all tabs non-clickable, for when I want to select link text using MakeLink to copy into my wiki. It's damn annoying trying to select clickable text. I pretty much always use double-click drag (whole words only) for the main selection gesture. This simply doesn't work on links. Correction. It simply didn't work on links. Of course, I have to turn it on and off manually. I'll work on a button later.
Oh, yes, another pivotal moment was when I took control over USB insertion events to prevent a certain device from auto-mounting every time I put it on the tit to juice up. That initiative required several freakish lines of syntax, but at the end of the day was entirely worth the effort.
Huh. That's funny. There seems to be a pattern here. All my pivotal events, pretty much, are when I finally suppress some irritating pimple-glint love child auto-bling from imposing itself on my happy cocoon.
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It's been a long time since I've seen a 'feature' added that really was universally useful.
Sure, some people enjoy them, and maybe even find them occasionally practical, but it takes no more effort for the developers to make that kind of crap optional.
What a stupid idea (Score:2)
Its forseeable that cortana will (soonish) start to be always listening and react to the user saying "okay cortana" (or similiar), so no button will be needed.
Oh good, another fucking button (Score:1)
How many actually use Cortana... (Score:2)
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Microsoft has done many things in Win 10 to tempt you to use their services (e.g.: search searches the web by default using Bing, OneDrive can't be uninstalled,..) and I hate it
Cortana isn't going to be available in all markets (Score:4, Insightful)
Cortana isn't even going to be available here in Canada when Windows 10 is released. Why would I want yet another Windows-specific key for a useless MicroSoft "feature" on my keyboard?
As it is, I use good old fashioned AT keyboards without any of the volume keys and other crap that you see on "consumer" keyboards. Don't need them, don't want them, and hate wasting the desk space for another row of buttons.
You do realize... (Score:2)
"Cortana" is another C-word like "Clippy" and will probably prove about as useful... :P
downhill since the control key moved (Score:2)
With so many keyboard shortcuts bound to control-, and it requiring such an awkward reach to the current location, I guess it only makes sense to add a bunch of stupid clutter to what should be a straightforward input device.
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looks at his brand new keytronic, looks at his 1992 model M...
what the hell are you blathering about
Toshiba introduces the Cortana button !!!!! (Score:1)
Cortana "dis"sed (Score:2)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana [wikipedia.org] is still a disambiguation page...
Another ad: Cortana from the morgue, or just Borg? (Score:2)
http://www.heise.de/forum/heis... [heise.de]
I thought we'd all suffered enough advertising on our keyboards since 1995 already? ;-)
Thankfully the glorious Model M remains unbreakable and unaffected...
Fail (Score:3, Insightful)
If you need to press something to activate voice control, it has already failed.
Microsoft Innovation Survival Kit (Score:2)
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Contents of Packet A: New Keyboard button.
Contents of Packet B: New Mouse button.
Contents of Packet C: New Assistant with Mechanical Voice.
Also included: Start Button removal tool, 10-pack of various Wizards (from1997, dehydrated), Clippy spray.
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What, no happy face Microsoft Bob button?
Re:ply from MISK Customer Service (Score:2)
What, no happy face Microsoft Bob button?
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The decryption key for Bob was not provi
A very educational article (Score:2)
A very educational article. By reading it I learned that Onuora Amobi is another one to add to the long list of people I think are utter fucking idiots.
One more reason... (Score:1)