Disappointed Woz Sells His "Worthless" Galaxy Gear Watch 242
curtwoodward (2147628) writes Apple co-founder and legendary nerd Steve Wozniak is a huge gadget enthusiast, often appearing in lines with mere mortals to purchase new Apple products. So you can bet he's tried out most of the smartwatches on the market today. The worst one? By far, the Samsung Galaxy Gear, which The Woz says he sold on eBay after half a day's use. "It was so worthless and did so little that was convenient," Wozniak said at an appearance in Milwaukee. "You had to hold it up to your ear and stuff." So maybe the watch sucked, but just imagine being the one who bought Woz's used Gear---do you think they know?
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I did the same, except I returned to ti Best Buy and got a Pebble instead.
Works a LOT better for what a smart watch is good for, critical Information display.
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critical information?
How many of us really get critical information?
No text or email crap I'm getting is critical. My wife and the kids can call my mobile.
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SQL server is down and the boss is in the elevator coming to fire you is a pretty critical bit of information.
I get all kinds of stats from work and home, the Pebble has a full open API that allows me to do whatever I want. the Samsung crap is closed up tight with not even any promises of opening it up yet.
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Most critical production systems have alerts to pagers and phones. Nobody exclusively relies on email for this kind of stuff.
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If the boss is coming to fire you, then the server is no longer critical information. The boss coming to fire you isn't really critical information either, since having it doesn't give you any options anyway - the decision has already been made.
I don't get the point (Score:2)
Works a LOT better for what a smart watch is good for, critical Information display.
See that's the problem I have with watches generally. 99% of the time they provide me no information that I critically need that I cannot get from my surroundings or my smartphone. I don't need a clock to be available to me at the flip of a wrist except very rarely. My day is not scheduled that tightly and there almost always are at least 2 clocks within eye shot anywhere I usually go. Occasionally they are useful for things like flight navigation or diving where knowing the time immediately is really
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I used to wear a watch all the time. I felt naked if I wasn't wearing one and would compulsively look at my wrist to see what time it was. Then I realized just what you said and I decided to try going without one. I haven't worn one in months except for one day where I knew I wouldn't have access to my smartphone and I was going to need to see what time it was. During that time, it felt just wrong to have this "thing" on my wrist. I don't miss my watch at all and if I needed to see something that a "sm
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I have a Pebble was thinking of getting a Gear just for the better screen and generally better quality materials.
It's handy in the car for reading texts. It would be illegal to do that on my phone here, but I can sit right beside a cop car and scroll through them on my watch with no issues. Obviously have to stop to send them though.
Also great having the GPS rangefinder on my wrist when golfing as opposed to constantly checking a phone.
It's rudimentary first gen tech, but I can see it getting better and m
All smart watches suck (Score:2, Interesting)
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Or wait for the one from Microsoft...
Re:All smart watches suck (Score:4, Funny)
Or they decide they actually want to make money and release a generic Android-based smartwatch. Their Nokia arm doesn't seem too hung up about reinforcing the Windows hegemony if it gets in the way of business.
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10 HOME
20 PRINT "Hello World"
30 GOTO 20
Like that? :P
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I would even go as far to saw a basic / simple firmware.
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Nah, I am just not a developer/engineering. I do like to break things though!
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If you aren't happy with the current features of a smart watches then sit down and make your own, that's what I did, so instead of complaining I just solved my own issue.
I just strap my cellphone onto my wrist.
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Or in your big pockets, (bag/purse)s, etc.
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If you aren't happy with the current features of a smart watches then sit down and make your own, that's what I did, so instead of complaining I just solved my own issue.
That's what I did too, years ago! ... but it really weighs heavily on my neck.
Thanks fans! -- Flava Flav
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Well, I am not an engineer. I do SQA test though! I'd like a smartwatch that doesn't require a phone and is like a PDA watch. I still wear an old school Casio Data Bank (DB) 150 watch that does schedule (very important), times, phone books (address books would be nice too), alarms, calculator, etc.
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Lines to purchase new Apple products. (Score:2)
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Apple does I'm sure... he is still a full time paid employee of Apple, receiving about $120K a year.
He doesn't actually do anything there, he just gets paid... well, because... :)
Woz likes to stand in line with everyone else and buy them because it makes him feel normal. He doesn't have Job's ego, and for that, I applaud him.
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Besides, what better way to make sure you know what the consumers are experiencing by making sure your gear (no pun) is acquired from the same place?
If Apple (or any company) gave him special supplies, maybe they might deliberately make his item somehow superior (whether through special hardware or software options or optimizations that aren't available for the general public)?
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Apple does I'm sure...
Yeah, Apple will give a blabber-mouth like Woz unreleased hardware. Sure.
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That's extremely cynical. Maybe you should talk to your therapist about your negativity, you might get more out of life if you were a less bitter person.
It's more likely that he just likes to spend time in line with tech enthusiasts.
Consumers are fickle (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't wear a watch day-to-day. When I do wear one, it's with a suit as a fashion accessory. And I seriously doubt smart watches will ever look classy. Flashy, yes. Classy, no.
It's pretty amazing how short the average consumer's attention span is. I guess I can't blame companies for gettin' while the gettin's good.
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That was obviously short-sighted and just plain dumb. And I say that as someone who made that very claim. I just didn't anticipate all the health tracking and messaging functionality that would become available in watches.
>I don't wear a watch day-to-day. When I do wear one, it's with a suit as a fashion
Showing off (Score:2)
And I seriously doubt smart watches will ever look classy.
See I think watches either look anachronistic or make you look like a showoff in most cases. There are a few niche use cases for wearing one but I really don't see the point most of the time. If the watch is expensive enough to be bling (read Rolex) then it isn't really for function - it's jewelry. Whatever function it serves is incidental to its real function of showing off. If the watch is cheap enough to be practical for uses other than showing then there no longer is a point to wearing it most of th
Salesmanship (Score:3)
Well jeeze, Woz, with salesmanship like that, I'm surprised you managed to sell it at all!
My wife has one and loves it, for one reason. (Score:4, Interesting)
There aren't any current cellphones that fit in the pockets of the sort of clothes she wears. Size zero/one fashion clothing often doesn't even have pockets, much less ones that'll fit the half-tablet-sized cellphones these days. She had an HP Veer, the size of a credit card, that she loved, until it died. So now she has the same smartwatch and has what she calls a GIANT cellphone in her purse or stuck in her desk at work, and takes calls using her watch.
Size zero clothing is probably not on Woz's radar, but there are people who want tiny connectivity.
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There aren't any current cellphones that fit in the pockets of the sort of clothes she wears.
I can think of only three possibilities:
1. Baywatch lifeguard
2. Bikini model
3. Playboy bunny
Well, I can think of more, but it's your wife dude so I'll shut up now :-)
e-watches are just a way (Score:2)
Re: Legendary nerd? (Score:5, Funny)
More than you can say about yourself for sure. Your biggest achievement in life is probably this post on Slashdot.
Re: Legendary nerd? (Score:5, Insightful)
No, my toilet does not need a IPv6 connection. I promise you I can still take a shit without it.
Sorry, as part of the "pay per flush" sewer service billing not only will it be monitored it will also have an override to disable it in the event of a police raid...
Re:Legendary nerd? (Score:5, Informative)
He invented the universal remote control.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CL_9
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How would a non-programmable universal remote work?
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Manufacturers rarely change much about the codes used by their IR remotes, unless there is some new feature on the device that requires new buttons/codes.
Unless they are Sony, and invent a new protocol to control Blu-Ray players even though they don't need any buttons you don't get on a typical modern DVD remote.
Re:Legendary nerd? (Score:5, Informative)
You mean besides building a disk controller in software that was faster and far more adaptable and reliable than the hardware versions at the time, and cost a tenth as much?
Yeah, I can't figure why that would be important in 1977.
Re:Legendary nerd? (Score:5, Insightful)
Don't forget about the resolution he got out of a video controller. Or the way he mercilessly attacked the IC count. Woz is a populist geek hero to anybody who wants to maximize performance while minimizing cost.
The big iron folks always look down their noses at the little people with their little computers, but they don't start any revolutions.
Re:Legendary nerd? (Score:5, Informative)
No one else designed the circuits and firmware/software of a 6502 based computer system with output that worked on a home TV.
He holds four patents as sole inventor:
No. 4,136,359: Microcomputer for use with video display
No. 4,210,959: Controller for magnetic disc, recorder, or the like
No. 4,217,604: Apparatus for digitally controlling PAL color display
No. 4,278,972: Digitally-controlled color signal generation means for use with display
Please post link to your major contributions to the field of personal computing, we're looking forward to it. Unless as I suspect your biggest contribution is the dried and crusted mass on the underside of your system's desk
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He holds four patents as sole inventor: No. 4,136,359: Microcomputer for use with video display
So with this patent alone, wouldn't he be able to patent troll the entire computer industry out of existence? I'm only half kidding.
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Must... resist... feeding... the troll...
GOD DAMMIT
You do know who Steve Wozniak is, right? Regardless of whatever fanboy you are.
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The Woz is too pure to give in to petty brand based allegiances, even if he helped start one of those brands.
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he was eternally tormented by the decision to remove user expandability in the Apple2
so, he started the brand and it was pure, and fought it when it became what he hated
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Hi did you get the newsletter that Woz left Apple like 20 years ago and has nothing to do with the company anymore? And that he's a huge tech/gadget geek and doesn't care if the device is not Apple? And has even publicly spoken out against Apple?
Well now you do.
Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te (Score:5, Informative)
Wozniak is still an Apple employee with a salary of $120k/year and he still has a bunch of stock. I doubt he has much if any involvement in Apple operations, but saying "he has nothing to do with the company" is not true.
You are correct that he calls them like he sees them, regardless of brand. I generally love Samsung and have owned a bunch of their phones, but the Gear has no interest for me for exactly the reasons Woz states.
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Hi did you get the newsletter that Woz left Apple like 20 years ago and has nothing to do with the company anymore? And that he's a huge tech/gadget geek and doesn't care if the device is not Apple? And has even publicly spoken out against Apple?
Well now you do.
Not to mention that every time he says something remotely bad about Apple or an Apple product, you can be sure to find a Slashdot story about it.
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Do you actually know how chemotherapy works? It doesn't "bombard the human body with radiation". The accelerator is calibrated and targeted to fire a very specific amount of radiation directly at an area only slightly larger than the tumour. Because cells are at their weakest during division, and cancer cells divide at an exponentially higher rate than regular cells, they are far more vulnerable than the healthy non-tumour area around them. Which means the healthy cells are largely unaffected by the rad
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Assuming it's caught before spreading and treated aggressively, the 5-year mortatlity rate is about 80%. If I remember correctly, in Steve Jobs' case, it wasn't discovered until it had affected his liver so the year or so that he stuck around was actually a pretty damn good fight.
You have all of that exactly backwards. Steve Jobs lived 8 years after his diagnosis. Jobs had a rare type of pancreatic cancer that grows very slowly and is much easier to treat.
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How amusing. I selected the wrong term. Why yes, however, the GP wasn't even talking about chemotherapy anyway so it's kind of a moot point.
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I agree totally with criticizing him for the alternative treatments. But you do have to remember that Pancreatic Cancer is tough, and Jobs had a particularly bad version of it. Yeah, he futzed away valuable time, once he decided on normal treatment he spent a metric-sh*t-ton of money on his treatment. I do wonder if he'd only started earlier what would have happened.
Look at Patrick Swayze for another example. Swayze was not a poor man, yet he succumbed to Pancreatic Cancer pretty quickly. Its a tough tou
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But you do have to remember that Pancreatic Cancer is tough, and Jobs had a particularly bad version of it.
No, that is completely backwards. Jobs had a rare type that was much easier to treat. It was nothing like the type that Swayze had. Jobs lived 8 years after his diagnosis.
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Apple co-founder..."Galaxy Gear...worthless"
Well, "Apple co-founder buys Galaxy Gear watch" was news that made the Samsungphiles happy, so surely when the same Apple co-founder says the watch is worthless, that's just as newsworthy.
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I won't delve into the details, I'll just say that calling Woz an "Apple insider" is both misguided and unfair. He hasn't been part of the company in almost 3 decades and has many valid criticisms of the company and Jobs in particular.
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>> Apple co-founder..."Galaxy Gear...worthless"
Hmmm...I read that as "Apple insider says Google device bad." And...you were expecting?
Wos has used and praised lots of different Android gear.
Still there is something fishy about the whole story.
Multi-billionaire takes the time to sell something on ebay? Really? REALLY?
Even having one of his "people" do that would never pay for itself.
Why would he not just flip it into the trash, or give it to some kid, or donate it
to some museum with a signed letter of gifting, which would quickly raise its worth by a factor of 10 or 100.
He says its worthless, and then proves it isn't, and pockets the mon
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I don't see what is so fishy about that. He was also a school teacher, you would assume the salary he makes at that was paltry compared to the money he has from Apple, why would he even show up for work if he doesn't need the money?
Pretty sure he puts on his pants in the morning like the rest of us, don't see whats so out of character about acting like a normal human being; especially when he has a reputation of being a down to earth guy rather than some playboy moneylover. If you had told me Steve Jobs had
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they're convenient and unobtrusive, especially at the movies or at dinner with other people. they also look nice; yes, this matters.
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Convenience. It takes me a second or so to read my watch whereas it takes probably 15 seconds total to take my phone out of my pocket, wake the screen up, tell the time and then put the phone back in my pocket. What's more, a typical wrist watch will keep time for the better part of a decade with a single charge.
Good luck finding a phone that keeps a charge that long.
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it takes probably 15 seconds total to take my phone out of my pocket, wake the screen up, tell the time and then put the phone back in my pocket.
You have vastly underestimated how long 15 seconds is. Go on, try it.
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I just did. Took me 13 seconds to do it, though I really didn't need to wake the phone to get the time.
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Yikes. How much crap do you have in your pockets? I can do it in 4 without really trying.
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so you wear a collection of biometric transducers that also includes a time display. cool.
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For mine, I wear it because it tracks my heartbeat, perspiration, body temp, and activity. Do you have an alternative to a watch that can do all these things?
An alternative to track your perspiration? Yes, I do. It's called my nose.
And don't worry about alarms. My mouth works too.
Only downside is I don't have much of a silent mode. I tend to fart a lot. Part of my self-calibration program.
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yes, I'll agree some jobs require gear to do efficiently. I once had a job where it was beneficial to have gerber multi-tool in a holster, however if most people did that they would just be wearing jewelry.
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In an office environment, sure, a wristwatch is superfluous. Doing anything even remotely active, you don't necessarily have your cell phone in a handy spot: jogging, biking, swimming, sailing, fishing, etc. You also can snag a quick look at your watch without getting caught - much harder to do with a smartphone, and much less socially awkward. Smart phones sometimes die - I don't always get a full day out of my battery, but a watch will run essentially forever. Smart phones aren't very durable, even with p
Wristwatches are generally anachronistic (Score:2)
Doing anything even remotely active, you don't necessarily have your cell phone in a handy spot: jogging, biking, swimming, sailing, fishing, etc.
Why would I actually need a wristwatch for any of those activities? Competitive running or navigation on a sailboat out of sight of land maybe but fishing? I don't know where you fish but I don't really want to know the time when I go fishing. The whole point is to not worry about it. My philosophy on fishing is that if you need to bait the hook you are missing the point.
The ONLY thing I can think of that a watch makes sense for is if you need to carry some sensors in a compact way ala fitbit or if you
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I paid $55 for my Guess brand watch with heavy stainless band FOURTEEN years ago. It has lasted longer than ANY other piece of tech i own with 2 battery changes. A good Chronometer is still a valuable and necessary tool in the Information Age. Get over your 'its like buggy whips' mentality.
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I paid $55 for my Guess brand watch with heavy stainless band FOURTEEN years ago. It has lasted longer than ANY other piece of tech i own with 2 battery changes.
If we are going to brag about our tech I own a pocket watch that is older than anyone reading this that still works and keeps good time. I own several wrist watches that are older than 95% of the people reading this too and most of them don't need any batteries. Watches of the mechanical and electromechanical kind are amazing bits of tech. I don't carry any of them with me on a regular basis however because doing so is a pointless exercise 99.9999% of the time. The only time I carry a watch is when I'm
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sure, great for some sports and some jobs too. part of the gear. can't see the sense for most people though
funny, the boats I've been on for fishing on Lake Michigan had clocks. and gps, etc.
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Yeah, it's much easier to put down your rod and make your way over to the cockpit to check the time.
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they are, no practical need for them in most cases. male jewelry with a timepiece, that's what you're wearing
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Yeah, all those things are great for people who don't go outside.
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my cell phone does that, don't need a second clock strapped to my wrist, how l 19th and 20th century.
First wristwatch was in 1868, the last one needed was over 20 years ago.
even more clocks are everywhere now, on system desktop, on the land line phone, on my printer.....
Your smartphone has a screen too. Time to chuck out that old-fashioned monitor, along with your HDTV, calculator, paper, pencil, and deck of cards. That's why smartphones were invented. Obviously.
What the hell are you still doing with an ISP at home? Your smartphone has internet access too. Cancel that home shit already grandpa and get with the times. No reason you need a second internet provider...
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that's right, VOIP phones we call land line, quite common in offices these days.
printing a requirement of the industry I'm in, bet that's because of the watch wearers
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I briefly thought about selling the broken parts on eBay, but it seemed a bit too squicky. Although you know the auction would end up on Reddit.
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Those watches are excellent! Great job!
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Woz gets way more hero worship than I understand, but he left Apple WAY before they made flashy smartphones. Like 20 years before in the Apple II/Macintosh days.
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Probably so. Mahatma Gandhi advocated fighting the Nazis with a one-two knockout punch of surrender and mass suicide. Mother Theresa was a galactic douche [slate.com] with PR talents that you might expect from the love child of Oprah Winfrey and Gandalf. And FDR, well, about the best you can say about FDR is that he made World War II look like a lucky break for the US economy.
Woz? Um, well, I heard he was caught doing 115 MPH in a Prius. That's about the only bad thing anyone has ever said about him. Personally,
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