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Sony's PS4 To Have Less Stringent DRM Than Microsoft's Xbox One 509

Tackhead writes "E3 is turning into Bizarro World this year. Sony has not only promised that the PS4 will support used games without an online connection, they trolled the Xbox folks hard with this Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video. Compounding the silliness, and hot on the heels of the political firestorm surrounding Donglegate, Microsoft went for rape jokes during their Xbox presentation." Similarly, onyxruby writes "The Verge covers how Sony has crafted policies explicitly to make the PS4 consumer friendly to the public. They make the case that the PS4 will be superior in nearly every way [to the Xbox Next] by not requiring an Internet connection, not restricting used games, supporting indie developers and selling for $100 cheaper than the Xbox One." And if you're interested in the guts rather than the policies or the politics, Hot Hardware has a comparison of the internals of both of these new offerings.
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Sony's PS4 To Have Less Stringent DRM Than Microsoft's Xbox One

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @12:18PM (#43974725)

    For decades now Microsoft has been bizarrely obsessed with being a media distribution company. I can't even count the number of failed "set top" box initiatives and purchased properties (Like webtv) they've made along the way. Also there was that media center thing that sucked.

    And now they've got the XBone, where they turn the 'ha ha fuck you consumer' up to 11 in an attempt do do what? Prove that they're the biggest whore so they can strike the best deals with content producers? "Hey look! We've done away with that pesky right of first sale for retail games! What else do you want us to do?"

    Sigh. And just today I see that there's a new Panzer Dragon game, and a rogue-like from superbrothers that are XBone console exclusives.


  • by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @12:29PM (#43974923) Homepage

    I have to connect to the internet at least once

    Sadly, that's at least once per day. The Xbox 1 is going to require to phone home once every 24 hours according to what they've been saying.

    So I'm hoping the option to buy the PS4 and never connect it to a network will be viable.

  • by Vanderhoth ( 1582661 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @12:35PM (#43974999)
    My PS3 was updated by a rented bluRay movie.

    I specifically declined all attempts to update the system over the network until I had some people over for movies. I was making snacks and my cousin or wife (neither will fess up to it) put the movie we rented in. It said the console required and update and they said ok. By the time I showed up it was too late to do anything about it.

    Their whole poking fun at MS and the XO is kind of funny at the moment, but it's really just an attempted to gain back some of the early adopters they alienated with the Other OS removal. If they hadn't removed the Other OS feature I bought and paid for with my PS3, I'd probably be all in on buy a PS4. I hate to sound conceded, but my recommendations when the PS3 first came out was responsible for at least a dozen console sales, I'm sure other early adopter tech geeks can say the same thing. As it stands now I'll make sure everyone I know, knows Sony is an under handed entity that can't be trusted from one day to the next to follow up on something they said the would or wouldn't do. After all it was only weeks before the April 1st update that removed of the Other OS they said they wouldn't consider removing it.

    Point being once they have your money, they don't really care how they screw you over, but they'll find a way.
  • by Narot23 ( 2806751 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @12:35PM (#43975009)
    Microsoft has stated that it will be "up to the publisher" whether the titles will support used sales. Sony obviously hasn't built it in to their end, but what about publishers? Ultimately I wouldn't be surprised to see EA, Activision, etc. including serial numbers and on-line activation schemes with their PS4 titles. I like the pro-consumer stance Sony is taking, and it's good to see them turn it around at some level, but that is a hanging question - have they come out and stated that they won't support publisher-based used sale restrictions? I don't fully trust them - their history with proprietary formats and DRM says more about their stance than a single press event.
  • by Reapman ( 740286 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @12:46PM (#43975183)

    Uh the info was in the presentation. On giant slides. And in the words that were spoken. Not sure how much more clear you want it. Sony specifically said "does not need to check in every 24 hours" "you can play offline" "eye camera is $59" The details are there clear as day check any gaming news site. Want examples of those? Joystiq and Kotaku are two big ones.

  • by Sponge Bath ( 413667 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @12:47PM (#43975203)

    ...there is less of that authentication/DRM drama

    Out of the frying pan and into the fire. After Sony updated the PS3 so that is won't play video files it suspects are pirated, it would be foolish to buy more from them thinking they have better DRM policy. Remember, they can update the PS4 ANYTIME to withdraw anything they say now, and you know they will.

  • Re:It's funny (Score:4, Informative)

    by spire3661 ( 1038968 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @12:55PM (#43975319) Journal
    PS+ will now be required for online play. Services, AKA Netflix will work without it. I would like to add that PS+ has become a really good value in the last few years. I still hate having to pay for multiplayer and always will, but they make up for it with free full AAA games.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @01:29PM (#43975777)

    Except that Sony has, in the very recent past, done exactly what he described. When I rented Dead Island, my (internet-less) PS3 refused to play it unless I installed the firmware update that came on the disc.

  • by Chaos Incarnate ( 772793 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @03:25PM (#43977247) Homepage
    They didn't remove the PS2 backwards compatibility from PS3s that had it (unlike OtherOS); they simply removed it from future versions of the PS3. Big difference there.
  • by Ben4jammin ( 1233084 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @04:29PM (#43977991)

    They didn't remove the PS2 backwards compatibility from PS3s that had it (unlike OtherOS); they simply removed it from future versions of the PS3. Big difference there.

    That is true. YMMV but in my case, over time (for reasons I don't fully understand) is that I found I could successfully play fewer and fewer PS2 titles (my stepsons had a STACK of PS2 games, thus the decision to go PS3 rather than Xbox360) over time. While I can't prove it was firmware updates, the only thing that changed was the firmware.

    Also note that in some cases, if you had a unit with the hardware emulation but the unit broke (even under warranty) you could end up with a replacement unit that didn't have it. So even that was taken away from some people.

    The primary point being that for me personally after my experience with the PS3 There will never be a PS4 in my home. And yes I realize that Sony doesn't give a crap what I think...I can assure you that over the years they have driven that point home.

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