Budget 27" IPS Displays From Korea Are For Real 266
crookedvulture writes "Giant, high-resolution LCD monitors have been around for years, but they've always been prohibitively expensive. Good displays based on IPS panel technology command upwards of $700 for 27" models and closer to $1200 for 30-inchers. However, Korean vendors have started selling similar screens on eBay for roughly half the price. These off-brand models purportedly use the same panels as pricier alternatives, and in practice, they appear to be nearly as good. There are some caveats, of course. The number of inputs may small, HDCP support isn't guaranteed, and user controls can be limited. Those may be deal-breakers for some, but getting a 27", 2560x1440 IPS display for well under $400 will be a deal-maker for others."
sounds interesting (Score:5, Informative)
lack of hdcp support sounds GREAT to me. no license fee, no contribution to the bad ways via my purchase! no supporting a bad regime (hdcp) with my dollars.
I watch using a pc and I never care about 'protected path' content. my dvd's are ripped and saved on a nas, drm-free. I could give a shit about hdcp!
sign me up!
Re:sounds interesting (Score:4, Insightful)
You could NOT give a shit about HDCP. Stop butchering our language.
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Please don't encourage the trolls. I could give a shit about not feeding them.
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Re:sounds interesting (Score:5, Informative)
Agreed, I work in the scientific field and getting a 120Hz or higher display to work without HDCP currently requires a little box that doesn't support HDCP just to kill the signal. Without the little box (Gefen DVI-Detective), the HDCP signal won't work correctly through any type of DVI-D splitter (one side will get the signal while the other one gets snow).
I love when I can find a display that doesn't support HDCP as it cuts the cost of circumventing HDCP. HDCP is killing legitimate use cases and requires work arounds that aren't obvious.
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too funny! I also have one of those dvi detective geffen boxes! my set is old enough that its a true dvi connector and not hdmi.
the geffen keeps the EDID (which I needed for old school hdmi cards that DID have braindamage, when you powered the tv off or did that in the 'wrong' order).
Re:sounds interesting (Score:5, Insightful)
And, well, you might not want to use anything like that right now. What about the time when everything requires it?
So the OP should give up his principles (no contribution to the bad ways via my purchase!) for a little convenience?
Re:sounds interesting (Score:5, Funny)
"those who trade open video standards for temporary raster spray deserve neither!"
(I think someone famous once said that. or, did I dream it?)
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Well, then, obviously he was right!
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Define everything. Are you suddenly going to start requiring HDCP on your personal recorded videos? I don't think so.
Re:sounds interesting (Score:4, Interesting)
Until you want to use it as an output on something that requires a protected path.
Which will be never.
What about the time when everything requires it?
Then I'll spend my time agitating instead of consuming entertainment. I think TPTB know better than to withhold circuses.
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And, well, you might not want to use anything like that right now. What about the time when everything requires it?
Is there now support for HDCP on linux? I tried googling the question, but didn't find an answer that I could be sure was valid.
Anyway, if you cannot use HDCP on linux then the person you replied to may have no reason to purchase HDCP compatible products unless he changes his operating system. (I have no idea if he is on linux or not)
Re:sounds interesting (Score:5, Interesting)
Should the day come that you can't view a web page without HDCP protection (or when a significant number of people can't do it), then I, as the copyright holder for all my comments, will revoke the authorization that I have given up to now, for people to descramble the HDCP which effectively limits access to my Slashdot comments.
According to DMCA, viewing my comment will become illegal. Making HDCP-compatible monitors will be illegal. Selling HDCP-compatible monitors will be illegal.
Chaos ensues. Make my fucking day, Hollywood. I'll kill you with your own law.
Never, ever apply your DRM to someone else's content, without getting a contract from them that secures descrambling authorization in perpetuity. Otherwise, you make it possible for someone else to cause your DRM scheme to become illegal for anything to be interoperative with. HDCP is a ticking time bomb, waiting for anyone who feels like destroying it, to press the red button.
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What about the time when everything requires it?
Need we truly agonize over monitor selection at the End of Days?
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HDCP is completely broken. The method to generate an endless supply of valid keys is in the public domain now. The more 'required' it becomes, the more likely someone is to start selling the 21st century version of the 'video stabilizer'
Common practice. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Common practice. (Score:5, Funny)
I assume these are screens that where rejected for minor defects by their intended brand and resold. This happens a lot, even with name brand products such as CISCO network gear.
Probably get some great comedy reading the manuals, too, as cut rate electronics sellers usually don't want to tie up any money on wages for people actually capable of translating and editing
for best experience insert power outlet recepticle the power cord before turn on
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Probably get some great comedy reading the manuals, too, as cut rate electronics sellers usually don't want to tie up any money on wages for people actually capable of translating and editing
When was the last time you read your monitor's manual?
I don't recall ever looking at mine. Not once.
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Probably get some great comedy reading the manuals, too, as cut rate electronics sellers usually don't want to tie up any money on wages for people actually capable of translating and editing
When was the last time you read your monitor's manual?
I don't recall ever looking at mine. Not once.
Must be a chick, that's the only logical reason anyone would ever look at a manual.
Ever.
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Probably get some great comedy reading the manuals, too, as cut rate electronics sellers usually don't want to tie up any money on wages for people actually capable of translating and editing
When was the last time you read your monitor's manual?
I don't recall ever looking at mine. Not once.
Must be a chick, that's the only logical reason anyone would ever look at a manual.
There are chicks in manuals? I gotta see this. Too bad I threw all mine out. Damn!
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There are chicks in manuals?
... Yea, I suppose you could count Penthouse as a sort of manual...
Re:Common practice. (Score:5, Funny)
Must be a chick, that's the only logical reason anyone would ever look at a manual.
Ever.
My chick did not come with a manual, which would have helped during initial set up and especially during troubleshooting. Seems to malfunction every month. No, she's not a realdoll or even a Korean graymarket purchased off ebay.
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Why would you check that? (Score:2)
I think I did *once* just to check the supported refresh rates.
That's what Google is for, not some piece of possibly inaccurate paper.
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"Insert securely lest should be detached in set"
Label from a cable bundled with a Samsung monitor. Guess you don't need obscure vendors to laugh a bit.
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my favorite after-hours game is to take those little packets of do not eats and leave them at restaurants, on empty tables. then wait for the fun to ensue.
shhhh. don't tell anyone its me.
Re:Common practice. (Score:4, Informative)
Not rejects, just lacking a lot of the electronics (no scaling, no DRM, only one input, no colour management or image enhancement, no on-screen menus). They are manufactured to a lower spec as well, so they will tolerate the odd bit of dust behind the glass or a few dead pixels, but it is pot luck if you get any of that or not. Some vendors will check and make sure you get a pristine one for a few extra dollars.
I had a dead pixel when I bought my my 24" monitor. I massaged it out easily, but maybe I was lucky.
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I've had dead pixels on big name monitors... it's not like LG or or Samsung or Dell won't tolerate them. Even when they do have a dead pixel policy, the policy usually only specifies how many of what kind of dead pixels they'll tolerate before they replace it.
In some respects, skipping all the enhancement hardware should result in lower latency, which can be a good thing.
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why do you think that skipping processing (which is realtime anyway) would change latency?
it would depend entirely on how they did the processing, wouldn't it?
I'm kind of assuming the current state of the art uses 'pure hardware' to do video processing and not some 8051 inside..
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"I can send an IP packet to Europe faster than I can send a pixel to the screen. How f’d up is that?" [superuser.com]
Consistency counts (Score:5, Interesting)
I have, more than once, ordered something cheap that turned out to be good, then ordered a 2nd or 3rd copy, only to have the later ones (branded the same) be.... different.
Latest case in point: $90 7" tablets - first one: 4.5 hour battery life, second one: 2.0 hour battery life.
Re:Consistency counts (Score:4, Insightful)
I have, more than once, ordered something cheap that turned out to be good, then ordered a 2nd or 3rd copy, only to have the later ones (branded the same) be.... different.
Latest case in point: $90 7" tablets - first one: 4.5 hour battery life, second one: 2.0 hour battery life.
This is where you really win with Samsung, Apple and only a few other manufacturers - pushing new technology and acceptable failure rates of manufacturing are turning out a lot of garbage. Read reviews on Amazon for some CE stuff, wildly varying accounts by users "It was dead in 20 minutes", "Wonderful, would buy again!" "Best deal I've had in years!" "This thing worked at first, then started acting up so I sent it back" "BEWARE!!!" etc.
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Some manufacturers put out a good first batch which get good reviews and generate a bit of buzz, then downgrade to cheaper components for later batches. HP are terrible for doing that, e.g. the first batch of MicroServers were nice and quiet but later ones used a much cheaper PSU and fan that make a terrible racket.
2560 x 1440 is sweet! (Score:5, Interesting)
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It does suffer from a criminally bad screen proportion, though.
Buy two of these, glue them together vertically :p
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Oh man, this is totally off topic but thanks for reminding me about the WIn+Left/Right/Up/Down. I used to have two displays and these were among my most used shortcuts but my second display died and I never replaced it. Finally got another one and have been getting annoyed with managing them.
Now that I'm re-armed with those shortcuts, my workflow feels so much more fluid again.
large monitor caused serious alteration of my eyes (Score:5, Interesting)
ok. can i suggest that you actually get three 1280x1024 4:3 aspect ratio monitors instead? if you don't like 3, get 4 instead. the reason is very simple: after working constantly at my usual 10-12 hours per day in front of an apple 22in 1920x1200 LCD for 18 months, i now have severe "prism" on my eyes. that means that in the dark if i look at a point of light more than 2 metres away i *cannot* bring it into focus: i see 2 dots about 4 inches apart (at 2 metres).
my eyes have always "adjusted" to the LCDs/CRTs that i use (25 years so far), and so i was quite pissed off to learn 10 years ago - a long while before computer usage was as common as it is now - that opticians go "oh we hear that people with short-sighted glasses tend to be used to having clear vision, so we always add -0.25 diopters on just to be cautious" and fuck me if the fucking morons didn't make my eyes *worse* by 0.25 diopters every time i got new glasses.
why is that? well it's quite simple: looking at the screens, my eyes adjust to look at the screens. then the moronic opticians slap another -0.25 diopters on the prescription and my eyes... adjust accordingly. by age 36 i had -4.0 in both eyes, put on the new glasses and drove at night to where i was staying, and they were so bad that i had an instant headache that lasted for something like a day and a half. that was money well spent: i had to use the older glasses.
so the same thing has happened here, with this 22in mac (which is of course running debian gnu/linux, what else would it be running, duh??) - because i have been sitting in front of it for 18 months at a distance of only about 15in. my eyes can perfectly well flick to the left corner or the right, and get the correct focus instantaneously.
but if i put my glasses on and look out the window into the distance, and roll my head one way and then the other, still looking straight out the window, you can literally see my eyes "jump" as one of them moves faster than the other, and i cannot pull them together into focus. the reason is because my eyes were *expecting* to be focussing (at 45 degrees or so) on something at only about 16-18 in away, but i asked them to look instead (at 45 degrees or so) at something 20 metres away: they can't do it. it also turns out that it's not just the muscles / reflexes that have adjusted, it's the actual shape of my eye lenses. they literally point sideways (inwards - aka "prism") now, not straight ahead.
the bottom line is that you really REALLY have to watch out for these kinds of effects which _are_ reversible... you just have to quit your job as a highly-paid computer professional and go do something like work behind a cash register, or go be a farmer or a common labourer or god forbid a politician - *anything* but stare at screens from a distance of under 2 metres, and you'll get your eyesight back to normal after a couple of years.
Re:2560 x 1440 is sweet! (Score:4, Interesting)
There's no such thing as 'enough', let alone 'too much' screen space.
I disagree. The optimal amount of screen space just fills my field of vision. Add any more, and spacial memory starts to work less well. I spent a while working with dual 30" monitors, and it was really easy to lose windows and have to spend some time finding them. A 27" display seems about right, maybe slightly small, but it's possible to put it where you don't need to turn your head to see everything.
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There's no such thing as 'enough', let alone 'too much' screen space.
I disagree. The optimal amount of screen space just fills my field of vision. Add any more, and spacial memory starts to work less well. I spent a while working with dual 30" monitors, and it was really easy to lose windows and have to spend some time finding them. A 27" display seems about right, maybe slightly small, but it's possible to put it where you don't need to turn your head to see everything.
27 inch is a very good screen size. I think my eyes would recede into my skull if I had anything wider to look at. Great for side-by-side comparisons or doing some transposition of code, but don't need to see more than 2 windows at a time (in most cases).
Still plugging along with an ancient Samsung 172t on one computer, which I must say is an absolute rock of a monitor considering its age.
Re:2560 x 1440 is sweet! (Score:5, Funny)
Sweet (Score:2)
I'm actually looking for a good 1440p display. If the $400 ones have all the specs I need (at least two usable inputs, minimal ghosting and latency, color that isn't terrible, and at least 60Hz refresh rate), I'll probably grab two (I was already expecting to spend $900+; if I can get two for the price of one, so much the better).
PS: Does lack of HDCP support really hinder anything?
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watching movies from Disk.
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So use a player that ignores that crap or just rip it.
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There are currently no players that can do bluray menus. I would say that it will come eventually, but it took ages to get decent DVD menu support (only within the past few years did opensource players get good support for them).
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for set-top boxes or dvd players or, for sure, bd players, it matters.
for pc based playing, it should *not* matter. that is, if you drm-stripped your media (anydvd, or similar).
btw, the lack of hdmi inputs is no big deal! for $10 or less, you can find 3 input (and more) hdmi switches with a single hdmi output. these days, the chipsets are pretty stable and interoperable (not true 5 or so years ago).
my favorite is the hdmi switch that has a cord/jack for an 'eye' IR remote sensor. the secret is that you
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I do actually have a Blu-Ray drive in my laptop, and I will probably try to watch at least one movie on it (note to self: see if The Atomic Bomb Movie is still around). I would probably be fine just using the laptop's 1080p screen (do BD movies actually store it any higher than that?), but 1440p would be nice. So I'll probably put "HDCP support" at the bottom of the feature list (if two otherwise-identical monitors differ only in HDCP support, I'll grab that one), but otherwise, shouldn't be a problem.
Rippi
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There's no need to spend much more than $750 on a 1440p display, since that's what the Dell U2711 costs (in Canada, anyhow). It's the same panel as Apple's 27" Cinema Display (and possible Thunderbolt Display) use, although the build quality isn't nearly as nice. It's a great display, whose greatest weakness is that it uses a CCFL backlight rather than an LED backlight, which means it pumps out a lot of heat. It does have an obscenely huge number of inputs, though, and can act as a digital audio decoder (au
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You heard bullshit.
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Re:Sweet (Score:5, Funny)
Do you get a discount when buying a handicapped monkey?
Now how about making some that are... (Score:4, Insightful)
16:10 instead of 16:9. [/obligatory post]
Re:Now how about making some that are... (Score:5, Funny)
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9:5, what a way to make a living.
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as long as they pay 'time and a half' for over-scan!!
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16:9 actually works well on 27" screens, as now you have enough room to open two windows side by side with a substantial amount of content. With a monitor that size, height isn't a big issue, and more width is actually useful! It's laptop screens with a measly 1366x768 screens that it really becomes an annoyance. Even on my 1080p 15.6" laptop screen, it's really not a big deal, and I think if I end up getting a 17" laptop, I would prefer a 16:9 screen for the same reason as thee 27" monitor.
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I bought one 4 months ago! (Score:5, Informative)
Yep they are for real. Sold on Ebay mostly. You can read all about people's buying and ordering experiences at overclock.net:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1232496/crossover-27q-led-led-p-27m-led-2720mdp-gold-led-monitor-club/1800
My experience:
1) Bought a Crossover 27" IPS with swivel stand from S. Korea over ebay - $420 (Canadian) shipping included
2) Arrived in 3 days in Canada from Korea (If only Canada Post was that efficient)
3) Seller filled out customs form saying it was worth $150, I paid next to nothing in duty fees.
4) Monitor is freakin' awesome in display quality
5) Had 1 red stuck pixel that shows up in black background, but that you won't even notice unless you go hunting for it.
6) Monitor has no warranty, but at less than 50% of the cost, it's a risk you take. That said, seller did say he'd take it back if there was a serious defect/damage in shipping.
7) The IPS panel is the same one they put into Apple's 27" Cinema display, but didn't make the cut for some reason. I can't see anything wrong with it.
8) WARNING: There are practically no button controls on the monitor. Only brightness up/down and on/off. That's it!
9) The build quality of the 27" Crossover casing is superior to that of even Dell (read the forums above if you don't believe me). It is solid metal (not cheap plastic), and looks very stylish. That said, a word of warning, the monitor gets almost too hot in the back during hot summer days if I don't open the office window.
For $500-$700 discount, I accept no warranty, slight overheating on hot days, 1 stuck pixel, and only 2 control buttons.
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I would imagine #5 would be why it did not make the cut for #7. As much as Apple charges for those I would be returning one if it had a stuck pixel.
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3) Seller filled out customs form saying it was worth $150, I paid next to nothing in duty fees.
way to get them banned from eBay soon...
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I bought one on Ebay also. The seller asked what amount to declare on the customs form, since some countries charge duties on imports. I said to be honest and print the full amount, since there shouldn't be any duties importing into the U.S.
It seemed weird that he even asked this question. If he makes a living by selling these things to other countries, shouldn't he know whether the U.S. charges duties or not?
Unfortunately, my monitor did not work as well as this guy's. It was DOA, and I had to send it
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I have no idea where you got the 500-700 discount figure from. Have you heard of the Dell U2711? In Australia it is routinely offered in Dell's frequent sales for under $630, and I imagine it costs about the same in Canada considering the dollars are about equal and usually stuff is more expensive in Australia.
For the $200 or two you save, you have to:
1) Pray that customs doesn't catch you and make you pay the real duty on it. Bonus warm inner glow of willingly and knowingly breaking the law.
2) There seems
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I'll agree with you on point 9. I own a Dell U2711. I love it, but it's not perfect. My two (but not only) biggest beefs with it are probably the glittery anti-reflective coating, and the crappy build quality.
It's still a great display, though. Phenomenal colour accuracy out of the box (since it's factory calibrated, and comes with a benchmark report), for example. That's kind of important... Sites like anandtech will point out that even though it's one of if not the best calibrated out-of-the-box display,
No HDCP == Good. (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm glad I found this thread because I might well be going to Korea in september so I'll bring one of these monitors back with me and not pay for shipping. Once again "fuck you" to HDCP and its supporters.
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Just out of interest how do you plan on flying with a 27" monitor? I wouldn't want to stick it in my suitcase to be thrown in the hold, and it would be a bit big for most hand luggage allowances.
Catleap (Score:2)
I picked up a Yamakasi Catleap a few weeks ago. No dead pixels that I can find. Looks incredible. The chassis appears to be made from cheap plastic but it's not an eyesore or anything. So much real estate!
From A Satisfied Customer (Score:4, Informative)
I'll make this short and sweet.
I got mine here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230774446127&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160 [ebay.com]
It is the most amazing and beautiful screen I've ever owned, and I've actively been a computer geek for 34 years. It arrived in 2 days. There are no dead pixels. I've used it for hours daily since mid-April with no problems.
Have a nice day.
I got one after hearing about them on Slashdot! (Score:2)
Back in April I read a recommendation on a thread on here about these monitors. I wish I could find the thread to give proper credit, but I didn't do such crazy tricks as emailing myself or bookmarking it. Firefox history search needs to work more like Gmail. Whoever it was, thanks, it's a really nice monitor! Good brightness, excellent colour reproduction, decent resolution. Reasonable size too :P The only complaint I have is a slight buzzing when displaying mostly-white content (eg this thread). It's prac
Re:Buy local (Score:5, Insightful)
Only 1920x1080, and four inches smaller... it's a completely different product.
Re:Buy local (Score:5, Funny)
...and four inches smaller... it's a completely different product.
That's what she said.
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At the end of the article there's a link to the AURIA EQ276W 27" LED Monitor [microcenter.com], which is in stock at my local MicroCenter. It's 27" and 2560 x 1440 like the model reviewed and a bit more expensive, but it also has more inputs (VGA and HDMI).
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too bad that, just 2 days ago, microcenter in the bay area CLOSED.
still upset about that....
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He, he, this bit of information reveals where you live (or work); yeah, it's a pity that we are now limited to the Fry's on Arques...
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yeah, but on the bright side, if there's a trip to frys, there can also be a trip to sneha for lunch!
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And Dell is currently selling the U2412M, a 24" IPS display with 1920x1200 resolution, for $250... What's your point? A 23" 1080p ASUS IPS for $270 isn't a good deal.
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Yes. This has higher resolution, better DPI, better color reproduction, less input lag, etc. than your TV.
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1080p at 27" is going to look several times uglier and fuzzier than 2560x1440 at 27".
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1080p = 1920x1080. That's 4937 pixels per dollar.
This monitor [ebay.com] is $310 for 2560x1440, and comes with free shipping from Korea. That's 11,891 pixels per dollar.
I'd say you were ripped off pretty badly.
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Are you seriously that stupid? You're actually trying to compare an average priced TV purchased through a legitimate retailer to some shady one-off deal on eBay from some unknown in Korea as if it's normally priced that way?
If this were the normal price for 27" IPS displays then you might have a point, but really you're either trolling or just stupid to suggest he was ripped off.
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to sell here, you MUST implement 'display protection' (its not copy protection; lets call it what it really is).
but, if they sell direct from overseas, they can skip this.
its a known loophole in many areas. you can even bypass U/L style testing (or CE testing) if you are just selling stuff over direct mail or ebay.
some of the stuff I've gotton direct from china would NOT NOT NOT pass U/L if its life depended on it. I stopped using some gear since, when I opened it, I found the wiring and parts locations t
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to sell here, you MUST implement 'display protection' (its not copy protection; lets call it what it really is).
[citation needed]
IANAL, but to my knowledge selling a display without HDCP or whatever isn't in violation of the DMCA, it just won't be able to display content that requires HDCP. That's different from actively circumventing HDCP.
(Also "display protection" isn't any better a term.)
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What a load of BS. The Auria EQ276W doesn't have HDCP and is sold in the US.
Are you sure? Microcenter claims it does (Score:4, Informative)
Microcenter Specs page for the EQ276W claims it supports HDCP. The one reviewed in the article did not...
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Funny since I have 2 month old Dell monitors with only DVI inputs and no copy protection. I guess I should alert somene to them selling illegal monitors?
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HDCP has nothing whatsoever to do with HDMI. I have DVI monitors that implement HDCP. I had one from before HDMI was invented, and othes since. I'd bet your recent DVI monitors support HDMI.
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I'd bet your recent DVI monitors support HDMI.
You bet wrong. There is no HDMI. I also have HP monitors that are only about a year old that are VGA only and again have no copy protection. So no matter what you say, the statement the person made is patently false. There is no legal requirement to implement HDCP.
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Seth
Re:IPS displays are slow (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:LOL (Score:5, Informative)
The one that I got gave a phone number and the address of the manufacturer (Yamakasi) in the back of the user manual, along with a map so you could drive up to the manufacturer and get a replacement.
In my case, it didn't even work out of the box, though. I sent it back to the Ebay seller, who claimed that it worked for him, but then stopped responding to my messages. I just filed a Ebay case, and got a full refund, but that same guy is still the main person selling these on Ebay.
Re:LOL (Score:5, Informative)
I bought a Yamakasi Catleap 27" screen from bigclothcraft on Ebay, $330 Australian dollars delivered to my door by courier. Took only about 4 days from Korea.
I could not get the screen to work with either of my two PCs. I tried different DVI cables, different PCs, different video cards, no joy. All video cards detected the new screen, just nothing actually showed up on the screen. I eventually complained to bigclothcraft and they offered to pay for the return of the screen using their courier service account, which I thought was decent of them, however they did say that if it worked on arrival back in Korea they would charge me for the return courier service.
I then had one last go at getting the screen to work, this time using their supplied DVI cable rather than my own cables I had been using up to this point. Somehow this disabled the video drivers for my card (NVidia GTX560) but at least the screen illuminated and showed a low-res image. After reloading the drivers for my video card, the screen worked. Absolutely gorgeous picture, colours are great, haven't noticed any dead pixels.
Another oddity is that it will NOT work as a dual display, as soon as I have another screen plugged into my video card the Yamakasi goes blank. Since I only want a single display this is not an issue for me, but still it's a bit odd.
Last gripe is that the base seems a bit plasticky and flimsy, but I can live with that.
For way less than half the price of a 27" 2560x1440 bought locally, I am very happy with it, but be advised there are a few non-critical weird issues. YMMV.
Cheers,
John
Re:LOL (Score:5, Interesting)
Could it be that your cables were all single-link DVI and your video card doesn't support multiple monitors when connected to a dual-link monitor?
single link dual link with a dual link single link (Score:4, Insightful)
when did cables got so retarded?
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about 1 minute after cables were invented and the person realized they could use either the same or different cables for different things, depending on how cheap or specific they wanted the cable to be to their application
To answer your followup question, regarding connectors, see my answer for cables.
I especially love how my APC BX1300G UPS is described as having an "Interface Port USB", which in reality, the device has an Ethernet connector [but does not support any networking protocol], with a cable that
You are the reason things are expensive (Score:4, Informative)
Idiots like you who refuse to read the manual. High-rez monitors require dual link DVI. You used old single link DVI cables instead of the supplied dual link cable.
Rather then just think or do some research, you cost the company support costs that everyone has to pay for even if they are not as stupid as you.
I really wish support costs were simply done through the costs of the phone call or paid for emails, so people who can read don't have to pay for the terminally stupid.
It is the main reason Dell isn't really cheap, all the support costs people generate is what separates hardware costs from the selling price. Yes, your printer doesn't work? Did you plug in the power? No? That will be ten dollars please to pay the poor guy having to deal with it.
Re:You are the reason things are expensive (Score:4, Informative)
Sure, if you know nothing about DVI. But then you should be buying it from from a place that provides guidance rather than a cheaper place that lets you work out that if the resolution is higher than the single link DVI standard allows then it won't work with a single link DVI cable.
Re:LOL (Score:5, Funny)
Can't wait to have one of these on a phone or tablet.
Are you happy to see me or is that a 27" screen in your pocket?
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