Installing Android On an HP TouchPad 96
Barence writes "PC Pro has published a comprehensive guide to installing Android on a HP TouchPad using CyanogenMod's alpha Android release. The mod, which is based on Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) instead of 3.0 (Honeycomb, the source code of which is yet to be released) 'performs similarly to the Tegra 2-based tablets we've seen from the likes of Asus and Samsung,' according to PC Pro. 'The only real problem we hit was some apps refusing to install from the Android Market because they didn't recognise the hardware,' although there are ways around it."
Twitter started on Slashdot (Score:2)
"Tweet"? "+1"? FFS this is /., it's not like anyone has a credible social life in here.
Twitter has had a social life all by himself [slashdot.org] since 2001, years before Twitter.com opened.
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Damn, I miss that guy. Why doesn't he post here anymore?
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Why doesn't [the notorious sockpuppeteer twitter] post here anymore?
I think it had something to do with countertrolls asking him to restate his tl;dr M$-bashing in 140 characters or less after the namesake microblog host became popular.
WebOS is staying on my TouchPad (Score:5, Interesting)
I won't be installing Android on my TouchPad for one simple reason - that would be a downgrade. WebOS is much more pleasant to use than Android; it's better thought through, easier to configure, and easier to manage open apps. If I ever have to install Android on my TouchPad, perhaps because of a glaring security hole in WebOS that won't get fixed, it will be a very, very sad day.
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My toughts exactly. Android is nice, have a lot of apps, but for the OS itself WebOS should be better (and probably the available apps are enough for your needs).
For alternate OSs for that device, would go to Meego, or another linux distro (ubuntu?), or maybe in some time, Tizen.
Re:WebOS is staying on my TouchPad (Score:4, Informative)
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Or security updates, I am pretty sure HP will not care anymore about browser fixes
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Actually, HP just released a big update today. 3.0.4 77. In my early testing, it is nearly as fast as the device was when I had it overclocked to 1.7GHz and a bunch of performance patches installed. A very pleasant surprise.
Random link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Precentralnet/~3/UVQV0BP2eHI/hands-on-webos-3-0-4-video [google.com]
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Rumor: http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/10/rumor-hp-to-layoff-webos-engineers-by-months-end-exclusive/ [webosroundup.com]
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You are right, I misspoke...No new features, but the performance improvements are pretty big. My point was that they are, at least, still updating it for the time being.
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But right now, HP is still supporting the OS, and I would assume they'll support it until the warranty's start running out. Also keep in mind that the only way HP would recoup some of the massive loss the fire sale did is through sales on the marketplace, so I don't see that getting canned (although I doubt they can keep their devs for much longer unless they start showing them that HP still is supporting WebOS even though the hardware is dead)
Until then WebOS stays. It's just better for just about everythi
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HP still has an interest in keeping up some WebOS development, since they are looking for someone to buy the operating system. Shutting down everything would reduce the value too much, so a bit of investment is needed to maintain the software, plus keep some of the development team intact so any potential buyer can have that knowledge base transferred.
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I agree...
I quickly sold one of my two Tablets (the other one is going to family) due to the lack of apps available. Without software, the tablet is nothing but an video player, ebook reader, and over sized ipod.
Granted that the above is not bad for $150, but I opted for the full suite of actions by getting an Asus Transformer - best decision I could have made. I immediately had access to quite large number of games, a proper word processor, apps for scanning and business, etc. These were missing or sub pa
Re:WebOS is staying on my TouchPad (Score:4, Informative)
So you get the great multi-tasking of WebOS, but with the great app selection (and browser options...) of Android.
Netflix, minecraft, Firefox.... I certainly don't consider it a downgrade.
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So you then have to mirror all your settings and documents across two separate OSes. I'd pass too, as I passed on dual booting Linux with Windows. I just chose one over the other.
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Talking about different devices is irrelevant because the discussion is about dual booting on a single device.
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Another AOL-style post from me. The only reason I'd downgrade to Android would be if WebOS became completely unsupported, contained known security holes, and there was no better alternative than Android.
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It would dual boot, also WebOS is now unsupported already.
actually, it's not yet unsupported (Score:2)
HP just shipped an over-the-air update to WebOS 3.0.4 today. Long-term will be another story though...and I'll likely move to Android when ICS becomes available.
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I just got my Touchpad today. I can't wait to see how much friendlier it is... but I have to seriously ding HP on this one issue: I cannot run the tablet until I get it on a Wifi source to click agree on their Terms and Conditions. Boooo!
Guess I'll find out when I get home what it's like. Apple's the same way, the iPad requires an iTunes sync. Actually.. I don't think I had to do anything like that at all with the Galaxy Tab. I want to play with my gadgets before I get home, dammit!
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I got back to the hotel I'm staying at and... well when you get on wifi there, any web page you go to is replaced with their "Welcome to our Hotel!" with a 'Connect to internet" button on the upper right. The TouchPad did give me a little window peeking at that page, but it was cropped. No amount of scrolling would let me see the upper right portion of the page!! Then my girlfriend goes "try rotating the tablet..." I did as she said and a sliver of the button on the right was now visible, I clicked on i
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Yessir! I upgraded to 3.04 this morning, cant wait to see!
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If I ever have to install Android on my TouchPad, perhaps because of a glaring security hole in WebOS that won't get fixed, it will be a very, very sad day.
We all know that day will come - it's just a balancing act of setting up a workflow now on a technology that's (unfortunately) a dead-end and getting to increased productivity today, vs. having to do that all again at an inopportune time.
Or you get lucky, and you can use it until you dispose of it. Maybe the guy you sell it to installs Android. Maybe t
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I generally like it, but PDF reader really sucks ass in webOS. It renders PDFs at a single resolution and does not re-render as you zoom in. This alone is a good incentive for me to replace webOS with Gingerbread.
Here, here! (Score:2)
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Have Xoom, would Keep WebOS on Touchpad (Score:2)
I have a real Android tablet in the Xoom, but scored a couple of Touchpads when they went fire-sale. I would keep WebOS on the Touchpad at least until HP releases another update to it which I believe they have already said they would.
It runs very well and I hope Android moves in the direction of WebOS' interface. Tablets are coming down in price... I understand the hack cred of showing your Touchpad to your friends with a castrated-functionality Android deployment but I wouldn't do it unless I could put W
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Re:Have Xoom, would Keep WebOS on Touchpad (Score:5, Informative)
Lots out there, Google harder I guess.
August after 3.02 release -
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/hp-touchpad-will-receive-ota-udpate-for-added-functionality/ [engadget.com]
Today, 3.04 release -
http://gizmodo.com/5850862/hp-touchpad-gets-a-webos-upgrade-from-beyond-the-grave [gizmodo.com]
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/hp-touchpad-gets-webos-3-0-4-update-now-able-to-answer-calls-fr/ [engadget.com]
Check the Software Manger for OTA update.
Fix for apps refusing to install (Score:3, Informative)
easy (Score:1)
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The only issue I have now is that if the touchpad sits idle for a while (around 10 mins or more) it will lock up and I have to hard-reset the touchpad. Otherwise, Android works pretty well.
I keep hearing things like this and I remember why it is I don't like Android.
That, and the Android phone I foolishly bought thinking "it's Android, it can't be that bad". (For those who've never tussled with Android: It's a fairly meaningless brand in terms of identifying quality. It's just as possible to build a terrible Android phone as it is to build a good one so really you want to find an Android phone that's got a reputation of being OK).
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It's a lot easier if you think of it as being ONE Android phone and many Android-compatible phones out there.
That is, right now, the Nexus S
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there is no default app to take a picture with the camera
The latest update [precentral.net] to webOS for TouchPad (ver 3.0.4) includes a "Camera" app. Just sayin'.
Android On? (Score:2)
I've never heard of this... is it a prerelease or something?
My Experience (Score:1)
I installed this over the weekend. The install is relatively simple, and you can easily boot to WebOS, Android or recovery. For a first alpha release it is amazingly good. There are a number of documented bugs which will be fixed in due course, but none of them are show-stoppers.
As others have mentioned, the great advantage is access to the Android Market and the myriad apps available there. Is this better than WebOS? It depends on how you use this tablet. What is a tablet for, anyway?
In the long run,
This Should Be Re-Titled (Score:1)
How to ruin your $99 tablet.
Why would you want to shit up a perfectly capable device with Android?
But why? (Score:2)
Why would you want to cripple your beautiful TouchPad with a version of Android not designed for a tablet? Unfortunately I wasn't able to snag one myself, but WebOS, despite it's faults, is a beautiful OS. Sure, you don't get some of the apps that you do with Android, but for most practical uses WebOS is going to blow Android 2.3 out of the water.
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I had a WebOS phone for 2 years, does that count?
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excessive (Score:2)
WebOS isn't that bad. With the addition of preware and kalemsoft media player, it provides decent web browsing, video playback, kindle client, VPN suport, web proxy support, and an xterm with a shell, along with a reasonable selection of games. That's like 95% of my usage right there.
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You can complain about WebOS not having the SPECIFIC app you want, and you can complain about a few niggly things it doesn't support, but honestly...the OS just about does it all, and really well to boot. I miss the days of my WebOS phone where I had a device that didn't crash (Android crashes a lot more often), didn't have weird audio issues (Android seems to), and I could easily kill off tasks (still have to use Advanced Task Killer in Android). No one beats WebOS's multitasking/memory management and ab
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There are a raft of apps I use daily that aren't available on WebOS (Netflix, several games, my gas mileage app, etc.).
Also, the last time I had a crash on my Android phone was me doing something I shouldn't have been a few weeks ago. And I've _never_ had any audio issues. Sounds like you bought shit hardware. That's on you and the OEM, not the OS.
Of course, to be fair, I've never had any crashes or audio issues on WebOS OR Android. /shrug
When do we see the damned sourcecode to GB? (Score:2)
I recently grabbed a touchpad instinctively after seeing the CM7 video on youtube, not thinking clearly (and having too much damn money, not enough patience)
I'd forgotten about Gingerbread entirely, does anyone know googles plans for GB and Ice Cream sandwich? I'd really like to see the touchpad working well with an OS designed for a tablet.
Anyone got any theories or information?