USB Foot Controls 123
MojoKid writes "When it comes to controlling your favorite PC title, you've got a few options. There's a mouse. There's a keyboard. There's a control pad and the joystick. Now, there's one more option apparently. Keith McMillen Instruments (KMI) announced today the SoftStep KeyWorx multi-touch foot controller, the world's first foot controlled digital interface. Available for Mac and Windows, this controller sits on the floor. The company claims that it has multiple uses for gamers, video editors, programmers, data entry professionals, disabled people, repetitive stress syndrome sufferers, etc. It's both pressure and location sensitive, USB-powered, and contains ten fully customizable keys that remember up to 100 sets of commands for repetitive tasks."
This is seriously a world first?!!?? (Score:2)
That wasn’t meant to be facetious I just assumed this already existed. Maybe not with pressure/location sensitive buttons in this exact incarnation... but I assumed the basic idea of “USB connected foot board” was already around.
I currently use my computer as a guitar amplifier (not as bad as it sounds really, with a decent (or even shitty) guitar interface/DI, impendence matcher, guitarix/rakarrack/jack-rack and all the assorted jack DAW stuff.. it’s actually pretty good (or at leas
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There are some people who have converted church organ pedeals into a digital interface:
http://nearlydeaf.com/?p=827 [nearlydeaf.com]
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Of course. What do you think we are, philistines?
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What would be cooler would be a computer with a crank. Back in 1959 the Rice R1 had one for faster single-stepping through a program . A bicycle-type setup would be even more efficient. Used as a game controller, it might get a little much-needed exercise to heavy players.
MAME is ridin' spinners (Score:2)
What would be cooler would be a computer with a crank.
MAME supports a "spinner", which amounts to a one-dimensional mouse with a dial. Unlike a "paddle", a spinner has no left or right rail. Attach the appropriate handle, and you have your crank.
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I'm still waiting for the human powered generator to keep the computer running. If you stop pedaling or not doing it fast enough a little alarm goes off to tell you you have limited time to shut down or speed up.
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I've seen a few of these done as concept.. the one that looked the most viable used a treadmill.
Personally I think it would be damn near impossible to work on a computer and keep up a good pace ... but I guess if you did something tedious (like data entry) it would be ok. Would probably make stress injuries a lot more likely though (dunno what the ergonomics guide says on the topic of "upright walking while typing" .. but it's probably not good).
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So you somehow missed the hand crank laptops for 3rd world countries eh?
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Why not use an Arduino and a USB shield or one of the myriad USB I/O devices?
Well there is that robust , near indestructible quality of consumer grade products to consider and the lower price.
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Arduino, no shields at all. The Arduino contains an FTDI chip allowing serial communication along it's own USB connection. Use the built in Serial controls, and basic switches.
if (switchIsClosed) { Serial.print("a") };
Then run aackeys*, a free accessibility app - win95 has SerialKeys, which does the same thing - which monitors a serial port and converts incoming serial characters to keyboard keypresses (actually, you can send mouse events too - move to arbitrary locations, save/restore pointer positions,
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You may not be a code muncher or a silicon shitter but you are cool anyway. ;)
I've used processing but just a few minutes fiddling and aackeys does what processing would take longer to write. I have several other uses for that helpful hint.
Thanks for the info.
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No, USB foot pedals have been around for ages. I'm not sure what is unique about this one other than maybe having more switches?
I remember using a foot mouse at Comdex maybe 15 years ago. It was way easier to use than I expected it to be. At least as easy as a standard desktop mouse. I always wondered why they never took off.
Re:This is seriously a world first?!!?? (Score:5, Funny)
> I always wondered why they never took off.
Because they're on the floor, stuck under your foot?
Duh.
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I see what you did there!
It was naughty.
Foot mouse aka Rat (Score:2)
I believe the first Rat was back in original mac days and was in fact branded as a 'Rat'.
I suspect Rats are one place where a single button is the correct ergonomic solution (at least for people with functioning hands).
Many believe the name killed the concept.
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The interesting part of this foot control device is that those things aren't just buttons, but that each "button" is essentially an analog stick with a pressure sensor and you have 10 of those things. So you have a lot more input data to play around with then on a regular foot pedal. So while it might not exactly be the worlds first, it looks like an interesting input device to play around with.
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What's unique about this one is that they successfully spammed the /. submission queue.
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Of course it does. Every computer comes with a foot pedal and cup holder.
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this controller is one of the first we've ever seen that sits on the floor
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FTFA:
this controller is one of the first we've ever seen that sits on the floor
Which means that the people who wrote the article are idiots. Foot controllers have been used by transcriptionists for years to control the playback of the audio they are transcribing. Transcriptionists have been using foot controllers since at least 2000 (that is when I first had some interaction with that industry).
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Don't worry, in 2 years someone will patent the iPedal and we all can be certain by then that this is finally invented, for real.
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I've had USB rudder pedals for flight simulators since the late1990's.
The only way this is new is if they mean this exact specific device.
The actual idea, the implementation and everything that goes along with it have been around for far longer than USB.
I had game port rudder peddles before they were USB. Nothing new here.
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The first computer foot pedal I read about was a do-it-yourself job in a computer magazine back when eight-bit megahertz microprocessors without hardware multiply were the latest great thing, and shortly after the period when every home computer user needed an oscilloscope.
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Yes they have existed in the past. Maybe not exactly this style, but I have used USB foot pedals. Why don't slashdot editors take some time to stop and think before posting such stories? They don't need to do full research but they just end up looking too naive when they post such obviously incorrect summaries.
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When I wanted a speed control for transcription I just threw a old joystick with a throttle control on the floor, and hacked it to talk to a LADSPA filter. Other than racing game gas pedals, it would have to be a pretty sweet device to make me want to buy another plastic home obstacle. Especially one that collects cat hair.
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I assumed the basic idea of “USB connected foot board” was already around.
Dance Dance Revolution Mat: A foot controlled board with a dozen buttons, has been around for ages and exists with several connectors, from usb to most game consoles since the first playstation
Don't game to a catchy beat (Score:2)
No, not again!?! Leroy, you jerk!!!
Who'll be the first to mention one ass controlled? (Score:1)
Not me, that's for sure.
First? Not hardly. (Score:2)
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-MOMO-Racing-Wheel-pedals-button/dp/B00006JJIC [amazon.com]
Rudder pedals? (Score:2)
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I pretty sure PC sim rudder pedals and or steering wheel pedals can claim prior art on the "world's first foot controlled digital interface"
I'm pretty sure there are a number of effects pedals for guitars and keyboards, which incorporate processors and are highly programmable, which predate much of this by at least two decades.
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And of course pianos and organs with not only a full keyboard controlled by feet, but analog volume and iirc vibrato pedals as well
Connect it to a tablet and use it for sheet music (Score:2)
One of the first ideas I had for a tablet for musicians was to display sheet music. The only trick is flipping the page. Granted, this is easier with a tap than a real page turn, but it could be even easier with a foot pedal.
A bluetooth "keyboard" could do this nicely and connect to hardware like the ipad without any special driver support. USB not so much, but presumably one of the other tablets out there could be made to work. If you have lots of people, though, bluetooth might suffer from interferenc
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Nice. A little pricey for what it is ($79 for a pedal-less bluetooth transmitter?) but such is the ways of a relatively niche product.
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- All the tablet screen sizes are too small - 10.1" max. Letter is equivalent to 13.9", A4 equivalent to 14.3", and the Henle Urtext pages are equivalent to 15.3". Yes the edges of the pages are blank, but they're still substantially
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I use an ipad for piano sheet music (Stanza has a beautiful interface to free music scores). Cropping out the margins with Goodreader helps tremendously.
Re:Digitizing music (Score:3)
Digitizing music has been going on for quite some time--the best of the apps is PhotoScore:
Neuratron PhotoScore [neuratron.com]
You can find tons of public domain music at the Werner Icking Music Archive [icking-music-archive.org], save the PDFs, and open the PDFs in PhotoScore. You can then open them in Sibelius [sibelius.com] or another music editing application.
If the tablet has a microphone (Score:2)
One of the first ideas I had for a tablet for musicians was to display sheet music. The only trick is flipping the page.
If the tablet has a microphone, it can detect what pitch the musician is playing, match recent pitches to the notes of the piece to find how far the musician is through the piece, and scroll the next line of measures into view.
Waaaant (Score:1)
I'd buy this if all it was was a 'boss button'.
*Stomp* *YouTube window minimizes*
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That's a great idea! All that matters is what your boss can see, there's no way your internet connections could be logged by a server in another room!
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That's a great idea! All that matters is what your boss can see, there's no way your internet connections could be logged by a server in another room!
Cubert Farnsworth's Livin-In-The-Real-World Tip of the Day: Can do != Does do
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And for musicians (Score:1)
Why only for mac and windows? (Score:3)
And not for other OSes?
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Because the other 2% of the market will have no problem creating its own support for a pretty straightforward USB I/O device?
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You're seriously asking this ;p
The answer is: the same reason everything else is for mac and windows.
First off, assuming those "other OSes" is Linux, releasing a propriatary app for use on Linux is non-trivial. Every distro is a little different, so you either support one specific distro (used to be red-hat, now will probably be Ubuntu) or have to keep on top of 6+ distributions. And if you make it available, and sell it as "Linux compatible", you have to support it. All this to get a _very tiny_ chunk of m
musicians would love this (Score:1)
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haha, in general I's agree (the hype for the op-1 is doing my head in at the mo')
But seriously, the thing is very well built (for live performances - stomp, stomp, stomp),each button has x-y-z sensitivity, and the mapping software is piss easy to use. It's pretty damn good for expressive midi control - and for simple loop controlling.
So now (Score:2)
Buy some new shoes! (Score:2)
Should you not have bought a brand new shiny pair of shoes for this demo? :)
Price. (Score:1)
The price seems, how do I say this politely... a bit steep. You could pick up a second hand MIDI foot controller and something like Bome's MIDI translator [bome.com], midiStroke [charlie-roberts.com] or bash something together in the programing language of your choosing. And I know at the very least the GIMP supports MIDI input devices, I wouldn't be surprised it there are other programs that do not as well.
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Well, yes, in Soviet Russia GIMP controls you with foot peddles. But here, in God's 'Merica it is the other way around.
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First? (Score:1)
What about Power Pad [wikipedia.org]?
Awkward? (Score:2)
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1. The buttons are flat and small (compared to a foot, I mean), making it hard to know which button you're actually touching. If you're shoe-less, then you can
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Maybe we just have to accept that not every part of our body can be used for input. Some parts don't have the dexterity or tactile feedback level required, e.g. the feel which after all are designed for walking on barefoot so tend not to be that sensitive. Other parts are already in use for other vital tasks, e.g. eye tracking. Some parts are just unhygienic, like the tongue. Tongue interfaces exist but only the disabled who have no other choice use them.
There is one potential use I can see for this. Once s
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Must not drive a car much huh?
Sure, but my gas pedal is not a button on a pad. It is a pedal. Huge difference. I can feel where a pedal is and know when I'm pushing it.
Or operate a sewing machine?
Again, a single pedal. Easy to find with the foot.
Those all require moving a foot around in order to operate them.
No, your foot stays in teh same place, for the most part and you control by varying pressure, rather than manipulating on/off buttons. Not even comparable to this foot pad we're talking about.
It's actually pretty easy.
Looking at the video, no it is not. How am I supposed to find and press the little diamond for the arrow buttons with my foot? There
Rebooting (Score:1)
Gonna wait for the 2nd or 3rd (Score:2)
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Fortunately, digital foot pedels are like 20 years old at this point, so this isn't exactly first generation hardware. This is definately a first generation implementation by a company that does marketing that is either clearly a lye, or indicates they have absolutely no experience in computers ... otherwise they'd be aware of all the other existing implementations of the same thing that came before them.
Either way you look at it, no informed person would buy from this company at this point in time.
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Use a trackball! (Score:1)
Now my toes won't sit there.... (Score:2)
No Free Hands (Score:2)
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Now if they'd just make a speedpad that didn't feel like ass, you'd have a winner.
I love the idea, but got those are the cheapest feeling devices I've ever used. They look like the old built strong enough to throw against the wall video game controllers from years ago, but they feel so horrible to actually use. Every button on it requires too much force in just the direction in order for the button to move, and if you don't push it just right, you need so much force that you're completely distracted by it
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First, my ass (Score:1)
Has no one ever heard of midi foot controllers?
Restless leg syndrome... (Score:1)
Steering your way through the internet (Score:1)
Bypasses Apple's Patent (Score:1)
After all, this is multi-touch with feet and not multi-touch with fingers....
Hardly the first (Score:3)
Do it with the mouse (Score:1)
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I Hacked together a Foot controller in 1998 (Score:1)
Breath Controler (Score:2)
When do we get a breath controller like the Yamaha DX-7 had?
MIDI foot controllers (Score:1)
Years Ago... (Score:2)
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Handy for the disabled (Score:2)
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Here's a better idea. (Score:2)
2. Remove baby stickers.
3. Attach to USB port.
Voila, a foot keyboard for $80.
not "the first" digital foot controls (Score:2)
I saw foot controls (on one of the Lisp Machines) in 1980. (I doubt that was the first time someone did that, either.)
finally! (Score:2)
I can now have 8 additional new modifiers for my emacs configuration :)
DDR Pad + adaptor + Joy2Mouse (+ XInput) (Score:2)
It might have also been possible to map from joystick to keyboard event
finally (Score:1)
I used to work in a Chemistry lab. It was often that my hands were busy AND I needed to press space bar so some dumb software can start it's analysis.
Multiple peddle pushing allowed? (Score:2)
Back in the day, I had thrustmaster peddles, joystick, and throttle. They were the last of their kind to be made, even by thrustmaster, that would recognize more than one button push at a time. I wonder if this suffers the one button at a time limit.
tricky (Score:1)
Great for Emacs (Score:2)
Not the First, just the Most Questionable (Score:2)
I doubt it's the first. A quick google search shows that there are at least a dozen similar existing products. Also, I'm sort of disappointed by the "multi-touch" feature. When I read that, I was imagining two iPads -- one for each barefoot. As it stands in this case, multi-touch just means multi-buttons.
So by that definition, all phones (with more than one button) are "multi-touch" as well.