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Robotics Technology

Honda Assists With "Next Steps" For Mankind 57

hedonisticaltruism writes "The CBC reports that Honda has just unveiled a new walking-assist device that enhances the walking motion rather than just providing transportation. The device braces and strengthens natural leg movements primarily in walking and crouching. They're looking to market this to rehabilitation cases, the handicapped and industries requiring repetitive crouching and walking movements such as factory work and delivery services."
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Honda Assists With "Next Steps" For Mankind

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 07, 2008 @03:06PM (#25680059)
    "And here I've been [walking] on my own all this time like a sucker..."
  • ... welcome our new bionic overlords.
  • by heresyoftruth ( 705115 ) on Friday November 07, 2008 @03:14PM (#25680201) Homepage Journal
    Just last week, I had to order PT evals for two separate patients at the facility I nurse at. Both have Parkinsons, and are in the process of a steady decline with their ability to walk. One is getting her first walker, the other is going to get evaluated to see if there is any possible walker out there to keep him active. Something like this looks promising in the extreme. It would help when they freeze up. I wonder if they could set it to help the patient control their gate, elongating steps, to avoid shuffling.
    • Skiing. This could be a great aid to skiiers who are otherwise fit enough to ski but have leg strength issues.

      Of course, once a ski-capable device hits the market, you're gonna have perfectly fit thrillseekers use it to ski extreme terrain.

      (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

  • by illegalcortex ( 1007791 ) on Friday November 07, 2008 @03:19PM (#25680281)

    From just looking at the picture, it appears that the device is anchored to the crotch. And from the prominence of that guys package being crunched and the expression on his face, I don't mean that in a GOOD way.

  • by T Murphy ( 1054674 ) on Friday November 07, 2008 @03:20PM (#25680289) Journal
    If this thing stalls while you're out on a walk, does it come with roadside assistance, or do you need to call a friend to give you a jump?
  • Video of device (Score:5, Informative)

    by werdnapk ( 706357 ) on Friday November 07, 2008 @03:22PM (#25680321)
  • by AmigaHeretic ( 991368 ) on Friday November 07, 2008 @03:34PM (#25680501) Journal
    I'm gonna bore my Grandkids to death like my Granparents did to me...

    Me: Yep, back in my day we used to walk!

    Kids: Grandma! Grandpas making up stories again!
  • by OglinTatas ( 710589 ) on Friday November 07, 2008 @03:40PM (#25680617)

    Sure it's great for your hips and knees, but how many of you ride bikes? How can you spend hours on the saddle like that? Back when I rode a bike, it take long at all for my penis to go completely numb and fall asleep. It's like falling asleep on your arm except ITS YOUR PENIS. And the tingling pins and needles as it "wakes up" is NOT the good tingly feeling down there. Seriously, it's kind of scary. Your inguinal area is not constructed to hold all your weight. I haven't ridden a bike in years because of this.

    That robot's saddle doesn't look any better. If I were doing a job that required squatting like that, I would prefer a short stool with casters on it. If their workers have to stand and squat 6 times a minute (just an arbitrary example) all shift, they really need to look at their processes.

    I know that this is really only a beta for mobility devices for the elderly. In that case, I would guess grandpa doesn't need his penis anymore anyway.

    • this is the article I was referring to in the above post about the poor fellow squatting at work:

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/07/honda_walker_exoskeleton/ [theregister.co.uk]

      I guess I should have previewed my comment.

    • you probably want to look into another saddle?

    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 07, 2008 @04:14PM (#25681129)

      You almost certainly had a poorly fitted bicycle. I know what you are talking about, and felt it before. But my current bike fits me very well, and I can ride for hours comfortably.

    • I haven't ridden a bike in years because of this

      why haven't you investigated some bike saddles especially designed to solve this issue? For example the adamo

      http://www.ismseat.com/products.htm [ismseat.com]

      is what I use and works great for that (as long as you give it a few weeks to acclimatize your 'sit bones' on), no numbness whatsoever regardless how long you ride.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by Ihmhi ( 1206036 )

        My god, the bike seat has a space for your gigglestick and funberries. No more scrunchy balls.

        I was once riding my bike and saw a pretty high curb. I thought I could just power up it, but instead my weight shifted forward. Back wheel picked up and I got anally probed by the banana seat. Then the back wheel came down and I knocked my nuggets on the bar.

        I mean, with that seat, well... at least next time my bike rapes me, I might like it.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Reece400 ( 584378 )

      I spent $40 on a decent Gel seat with some small spings underneath as well. Now I can bike for hours, maybe more but I'm out of energy energy after that point.

      I agree though, if it were anything like the seat my bike came with I'd crawl instead.

  • I, for one, welcome our new human overlords!
  • It's a good thing we made that a tag. I can't even fathom the number of other stories that applies to.
  • by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) on Friday November 07, 2008 @03:55PM (#25680825)
    If I get one of these, I'm gonna tell everyone to bite my shiny metal ass.
  • Please dear FSM, let it one day be able to transform...I don't really care into what, just transform! And have hooks for speakers for the awesome transformer sound!
  • by Naatach ( 574111 ) on Friday November 07, 2008 @04:00PM (#25680911)

    "Japanese robot company Cyberdyne... a belted device called HAL..."

    Cyberdyne? HAL?? There's no _way_ i'm strapping one of these to my crotch!

    I'm sorry Dave. Hasta la Vista, baby.

  • by brentonboy ( 1067468 ) on Friday November 07, 2008 @04:07PM (#25681017) Homepage Journal
    It doesn't look like it has a large power source--how much of it's assist is actually mechanical vs. tricks with springs and stuff that exerts force in the correct direction without any computer/electrical help?
  • I want something that will allow me to run at 60km/h jump 3m straight up and lift a car with my legs.

  • so.. sperm count vs improved mobility?
  • This idea was invented by shampoo!
  • "...is designed to support body weight, reduce stress on the knees and help people get up steps and stay in crouching positions"

    Why do the Japanese want us to stay in crouching positions?
    • And of course they don't show you the part that "inserts"
    • by plover ( 150551 ) *

      "...is designed to support body weight, reduce stress on the knees and help people get up steps and stay in crouching positions" Why do the Japanese want us to stay in crouching positions?

      Crouching. Y'know, like the tigers. And the dragons.

      Actually, TFA says why: many Honda factory workers have to crouch for extended periods to perform assembly or inspections beneath automobile frames. This kind of gives them a built-in, portable chair.

  • by RobertinXinyang ( 1001181 ) on Friday November 07, 2008 @07:54PM (#25683881)

    I worked for about ten years fixing, what else, Japanese copy machines (yes I know, a low rung of the geek ladder; but, there I was). In truth I really enjoyed the work.

    However, I eventually had to quit, like many others, because of my knees. the constant kneeling and crawling got to me and I was, simply, unable to do it any more.

    Many of the people I worked with used electronic pain control devices, literally, wired into their bodies. Others consumed significant quantities of pain reducers. Most eventually leave the industry depriving it of many experienced workers. Me, I am back to working on my MBA so I can join the ranks of the undereducated unemployed.

    It is possible that, with devices like this, people will be able to do jobs that require frequent, un-natural, movement and positions longer and in significantly greater comfort. Remember, we are leaving the, short lived, era of retirements and pensions. People will need to be able to work far longer into their lives.

  • by gizmo2199 ( 458329 ) on Friday November 07, 2008 @09:37PM (#25684609) Homepage

    Uses probably not apparent to the Honda engineers: great for special forces soldiers who have to run around craggy, rocky mountainous terrain.

    I'd be surprised if the US Army isn't looking into something like this for special forces who do a lot of walking and crouching.

    A slightly modified design could incorporate a running assist for a soldier to quickly accelerate to 20mph while running for a sustained distance.

    • A slightly modified design could incorporate a running assist for a soldier to quickly accelerate to 20mph while running for a sustained distance.

      I was thinking that it could help me get that 20-foot vertical leap I've always wanted.

  • Heh, anyone else thought "Chell" from the Portal game as soon as they saw the picture in TFA?

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