World's First Custom Firmware For Wii Released 165
Croakyvoice writes "Waninkoko has released the world's
first custom firmware for the Nintendo Wii, which is installed using the twilight
hack; among its features is the ability to allow writeable DVDs to be read
in emulators. From the readme: 'The Custom Firmware installs as IOS249 and it does not modify
any other IOS so it is secure to install and has been made to be used ONLY with
homebrew
software. This is a custom IOS, an IOS modified to add some new features not
available in the official IOS.'"
But can it... (Score:5, Insightful)
... play DVD's?
That's the only feature missing on the Wii, in my opinion, anyway.
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They have/are working on ports of Mplayer, I haven't installed it yet but given it can handle dvd's and this firmware will allow access to the DVD, it sounds reasonable to believe that if you can't yet, it's only a matter of time.
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its also missing... (Score:2)
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Re:But can it... (Score:5, Insightful)
It's made up crap you read on the Internet. Like most made up crap, though, there's a grain of unrelated truth. The Wii's firmware drives the disc at a constant velocity, no matter what track is being read. This is different from regular DVD drives that spin the disc faster or slower depending on the track. The latter puts more strain on the motor, which often causes the drives to fail faster. Thus the Wii's design is for reliability purposes.
Remember all the drive failures in PS2 models? Well, we'd definitely see a higher rate of drive failures if Nintendo supported DVD playback. In addition, Nintendo would need to add MPEG decoder hardware or software. At a minimum that would be additional licensing fees that would drive up the cost of each unit. At a maximum, that would mean licensing PLUS extra decoder chips.
So in effect, no DVD support is a practical measure. With DVD drives being plentiful, there's no realistic reason why anyone actually needs their Wii to support such a feature.
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So would this spinning interfere with the ability to play DVDs using homebrew software?
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It's just a firmware change. Either the hackers are updating the firmware on their DVD burners, or they're updating the drive firmware in the Wii to support both methods of reading.
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One less thing sitting on my entertainment center springs to mind.
They can solve their issue with buffering.
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Puts a strain on the motor? Drive motors are almost exclusively DC brushless using electronically driven commutation and are usually phase locked to an on board frequency reference. Changes necessary to accommodate variable motor speed include an adjustable reference frequency and appropriate feedback loop compensation.
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I'm not talking about the electronics of it, I'm taking about physical wear on the rotating parts. Constant changes in velocity cause all kinds of interesting stresses on a motor under load. This sort of situation is regularly seen with power generators vs. car engines. Power generators tend to maintain a constant rotational velocity while in use and thus tend to have lifetimes that measure in decades. Car engines, on the other hand, change rotational velocity regularly and very suddenly. As a result, car e
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The reason its not an official feature is that they'd have to pay royalties if it could play DVDs, and there's no reason to either add that to the cost or subtract it from their profits, everyone already has a DVD player.
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Really? The Wii is limited to 480p - so that's a rubbish picture for those of us in PAL territories. The sound is limited to stereo - so no DD or DTS. Considering an £20 DVD will have digital sound and better quality - why bother using the Wii in that way?
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Really? The Wii is limited to 480p - so that's a rubbish picture for those of us in PAL territories. The sound is limited to stereo - so no DD or DTS. Considering an £20 DVD will have digital sound and better quality - why bother using the Wii in that way?
As you say you will probably get more out of a dedicated DVD player, but it can't really hurt if does play DVDs.
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Uh. Wii carries Dolby ProLogic 2, like the GameCube.
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Dolby Pro Logic II is matrixed surround audio carried over 2ch stereo. It is not a great substitute for an actual AC3 or DTS track.
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No it isn't.
I'm no fan of the Wii Graphics - frankly on an HDTV they look shit - but it can do 576p, a little better.
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A PAL DVD is 576p.
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Wrong. The Wii spins the disc at Constant Angular Velocity, which means that it is far better designed for constant reads. DVDs are spun up and down at Constant Linear Velocity. Which makes the electronics simpler, but puts a lot more wear and tear on the motor. Thus the PS2 drives that failed during its early lifetime vs. the low rate of Wii drive failures.
Re:But can it... (Score:4, Informative)
Which is why the Wii has proper ventilation. There are large vents out the back and bottom of the unit. These allow heat to be dissipated while hiding the bottom vents with a stand underneath the unit. (Check it out sometime. The stand has a huge hole in it and notches on the side.)
Heat with the Wii is primarily a problem when it's "turned off" in WiiConnect24 mode.
Re:But can it... (Score:5, Informative)
Let's get this straight.
The drive in the Wii is NOT a DVD drive. In a DVD drive, the speed changes so the laser reads at the same speed all throughout the disk. This puts a strain on the motor (different speed and etc)
A Wii drive does NOT spin at different speeds, only one. The laser reads at variable speeds all throughout the disk. This makes the drive like a tank.
One is not the other, at least not without a firmware mod.
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Let's get this straight.
The drive in the Wii is NOT a DVD drive. In a DVD drive, the speed changes so the laser reads at the same speed all throughout the disk. This puts a strain on the motor (different speed and etc)
You're talking about constant angular velocity" (CAV) [wikipedia.org] versus constant linear velocity (CLV) [wikipedia.org]. Only old CD-ROM drives [wikipedia.org] and DVD writers use CLV. A modern DVD or CD drive will use CAV when reading a disc [dvd-and-media.com].
Re:But can it... (Score:4, Insightful)
Really? At home, I've got two laptops, a desktop, a PlayStation 2, and a DVD/VCR combo -- all of which play DVDs. The fact that my Wii does not also play DVDs has not been an issue.
Hell, I didn't even find out that it doesn't play DVDs I read it on the 'net, months after having purchased my unit.
Are there really that many people who would purchase Wiis that don't already have a DVD player set up? When you can pick one up at Wal Mart for $40 or less...
IMO, the biggest thing working against the Wii is that it's being treated as a last-gen console by many developers. The Wii port of Guitar Hero 3 had graphics worse than the PS2 version of GH2. Rockband for Wii has no online capability whatsoever, even though GH3 had some, and GH4 is planned to have full online capability on Wii.
It seems like the development process these days is:
Which really shortchanges Wii owners. Yes, the console is far less capable by the PS3/Xbox360... but it's far more capable than the PS2. Try to fully utilize the hardware. Please.
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Gawd I hate having to swap my Xbox and Wii out all the time. At least the PS3 has HDMI.
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If your TV doesn't have more than 2 inputs, maybe you need a new TV... Mine's got 3 HDMI, 2 Component Video, 2 Composite, 1 S-Video, VGA, and coax in, as well as optical and coax digital audio out.
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I have a good TV. It has 3 HDMI, but only one of the component inputs has sound analog sound. Unfortunately for me, the Xbox only supports optical digital and the Wii has no digital out at all. What I really need is a decent sound system.
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Could always use an upgrade though :)
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Allow me to emphasize:
That's my point. You already have a DVD player. You only have one input on your TV? Buy a switch box.
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Nope but a console playing DVDs is sort of like an appliance that has a clock display. There are so many that it is no longer an important feature.
My PS/2 Plays DVDs. My DVD player plays DVDs, My HDDVD player plays DVDS "It was cheap", and my XBox plays DVDs. I need the Wii the wii to play DVDs.....
Now if it could play Divx from a network share that would be useful.
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The only thing I own out of that list is my Wii...
Case in point.
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Then you don't have a problem unless you go buying some DVDs!
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My PS3 upscales DVDs and plays DivX from network shares. It also plays BD movies.
Just saying :-)
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Yes but it doesn't play MarioKart, Mario Galaxy, BoomBlox, or Wii Fit.
And it cost more than my HDDVD and my Wii combined.
I may get one someday because my wife loves SingStar.
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It can't, unless you have a modchip and are willing to develop a DVD-playing application. There's rampant misinformation on this, as usual.
Let's set a few things straight:
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I don't think the browser can play video content... maybe FLV, but that's pushing it even.
This is not the first custom firmware for the Wii (Score:5, Informative)
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so, reading R/RW media is a feature? (Score:3, Insightful)
The "features" that this firmware enables that were not present in the official firmware..
These are not features. If your hardware can read the disc, then the manufacturer specifically disabled the ability to read from writable media. This firmware disables a form of DRM.
That said, I agree wholeheartedly with the intent of this firmware!
Why Just Homebrew? (Score:2)
Why limit piracy? Nintendo hates it all the same, so why limit the possible applications of said firmware?
Videogames are too expensive to purchase often. :P
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If you can't afford them, find another hobby between your purchases. Not like you're entitled to them.
Not a custom firmware. No DVDRs on unmodded Wiis. (Score:5, Interesting)
1. This is not a "custom firmware". It is a hacked copy of an official IOS. IOS is the code which runs on one of the sub processors on the wii, it has nothing to do with the main firmware you see that shows channels, launches games, etc
2. You still CANNOT read dvdr's on an unmodified Wii. On an unmodified Wii, this modified IOS lets you only do one thing: dump commercial wii discs.
3. To read dvdr's in wii homebrew, you need a drivechip (a modchip attached to the DVD drive in the wii)
Conclusion: This is pretty much useless for homebrew, unless you are in the small minority who installed a modchip for piracy, but are still interested in homebrew. Even then, burning DVDR's is much more hassle than using SD's.
There is so much factually wrong in this story... (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:I just don't understand. (Score:5, Informative)
There is the Mt Everest answer and there is the "it isn't as weak as you make it out to be" answer. I don't plan on installing this firmware (not till the first wave of guiniea pigs test it for me ^_^), but I do have several Wiibrew games installed, some of which are WiiPorts of old games that have been released to the wild (GPL'ed or put in the public domain) and though the Wii homebrew scene isn't quite as polished as say the DS homebrew scene, they still have some impressive things out already.
In the end though, the real question is "why not?" Do you only drive your car from home to work and back again? Sometimes something doesn't have to have a strict utility or direct benefit to have fun doing it.
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Do you only drive your car from home to work and back again?
These days I sure do!
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So you can write your own game that uses the wiimote?
Then you never will. (Score:2)
There is an insurmountable disconnect between those that understand why these things are done and those that don't. It's fundamental to how each thinks. As much as you say you don't understand us, we don't really understand you. There isn't a good/convincing way to explain either position to the other, nor should there really need to be.
In a way, it's like asking someone why they like, say, raw fish, or really any other food one might find unpalatable. It's not a very useful question, because it comes down
Generally vendors do not understand their products (Score:2)
Generally vendors do not understand their products.
The most important use for a platform is frequently something the vendor never considered in either their software design, their marketing plan, or their business model. Or they considered it, and wanted to hold it hostage in the name of an ongoing revenue stream. Consider that most consoles are loss-leaders, with the money being made up on the licensing rights to put software on the box, with per unit royalties to ensure an ongoing revenue stream. The r
Really now... (Score:5, Insightful)
Let's see:
- The Wii has a nifty built-in remote that can do all sorts of things... and homebrew offers learning coders the chance to play with it and come up with innovative ideas and neat tricks.
- A codebase set up to allow you to run burned discs with homebrew will hopefully be expanded to allow using the old (and quite solid) emulators that ran on the Gamecube. Being able to run my SNES/NES/Genesis/etc libraries from a burned CD rather than wasting space in the Wii's highly-limited 512MB of internal RAM would be a major benefit.
In fact, word behind closed doors indicates that Nintendo is going to HAVE to open up something to allow games to read the external SD card reader as normal storage shortly. Anyone who's spent any amount of money in the Wii online store is getting pretty close to the limitation as-is even without the ever-expanding savegame files eating it up. It's one of the Wii's few major mis-design problems (the other being the incredible dead-zone that prevents the wii from detecting small motion, like trying to putt a short put in Wii Sports Golf, reliably).
- The Wii has more than enough power to become a pretty nice streaming media player (say, a MythTV frontend) if you can build it properly. The original Xbox is nearing the end of its usable lifespan (unable to handle 720p or higher content and a few of the newest and most processor-hungry video codecs with its processor) and both the Xbox360 and PS3 are locked in ways that opening them up for homebrew code is far more difficult than rewriting something (though rumors have it that PS3 custom firmware is being worked on). While it's true the Wii couldn't put out a true 720p signal, it could very likely process high-def content and display it in extremely pretty 480p, which would put it a step above the aging Xbox.
And before you say "but the PS3 allows you to run linux natively"... no. It doesn't. It allows you to run a very stripped-down Linux, and segregates hardware control to prevent Linux from being able to do most of the things that you'd want Linux and associated programs to be able to do. For example, the XBMC team (who are porting to both Windows and Linux right now) have already said that the PS3 will not allow them enough direct access (processor, video, RAM writes) to do what the software needs to do.
- The Wii is in more homes. That means that more people are able to enjoy the fruits of their work when they get the nifty home-brewed programs running.
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You're right, and you're wrong.
A) the PS3 does the home media player thing natively, without running any version of Linux, right from the XMB. I watch video and listen to music from my Linux media servers with it all the time.
B) the PS3 runs _full_ (not stripped-down) versions of Linux that will run within its memory limitations and don't require 3D acceleration. I fail to see how a media client requires 3D accelerated graphics.
Considering the raw power of the cell processor to do video processing and sca
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You get access to all 256MB of RAM on the board. What did you want, access to the 256MB of video RAM too? That's part of the "restricted 3D video card" access unfortunately.
There have been good developments around 2D and 3D acceleration (including a Mesa implementation) on PS3/Linux.
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While it's true the Wii couldn't put out a true 720p signal, it could very likely process high-def content and display it in extremely pretty 480p, which would put it a step above the aging Xbox.
While I agree with the rest of your comments completely, are you certain about this? I run XBMC for pretty much all of my media needs and it has no trouble with 480p.
Although now that I think of it, I'm pretty sure that was disabled by default in the Aus. version and I only managed to enable it with a modchip...
The Xbox+XBMC has been one of the greatest purchases I've ever made, it is a shame about the lack of power for handling 720p and up.
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If you think the XBox is a good choice, then why not the Wii? The Wii is 3 times stronger than the XBox.
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So, you think that all those who own a Wii and want to run/make fun and free homebrew games and stuff, should go and buy themselves an expensive PS3 or XB360 for that purpose instead of hacking their Wii for a low cost or even for free?
That's more or less what's it all about.
There are fun stuff to do with any console that the creators of that console don't make any money from and thus want to prevent you from doing.
For some, it's the fun of making it do something it was designed specifically not to do.
For s
Re:I just don't understand. (Score:4, Informative)
Actually no you can't. It was even stated in the summary this only works for homebrew software, not comercial rips, and on purpose. The people who are doing most of the cool stuff in the Wii Homebrew scene are fairly ethical folk.
What this should mean however, is now people can start making DVD's of their homebrew software and popping it in like a normal game instead of having to cram everything in a 'small' memory card.
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Having not used it, I can't attest that it works perfectly. But you don't need this firmware to do that, there is already a homebrew 'region free' app out there.
This firmware isn't what is needed to run custom code, it's just an additional layer of the onion being pealed back to allow people to do more with their Wii.
If you aren't familiar with the state of homebrew on the Wii, here's a quick and only partially informed synopsis. I'm not hooked in sufficently to have history book accuracy.
Near the begining
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The point you missed, I think, is that you can also overwrite an existing firmware. You'd have to be halfway insane to do so, as there's still no way to bring back a truly bricked console (sans something like an Infectus chip), but there's no technical reason I'm aware of that you couldn't patch the various IOS versions _in place_ to ignore the DVD checks. Frankly, from the descriptions I've read, it doesn't even seem that hard to do if you've got the right skills.
So, you're right that this custom IOS isn't
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The only game someone has written the requisite savegame file to enable taking advantage of the bug is TP. The people who are currently maintaining that have stated that it'd be fairly easy for them to find other games should Nintendo actually come up with a way to block this bug in TP. But I imagine it's easier to use a game actually published by Nintendo than a shovelware game that might be cheaper but no one can find.
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Graphics aren't everything, as I'm sure many people here can attest to.
I would attest to that, but it appears I've been eaten by a grue.
Heck, just for nostalgia I occasionally whip out the ol' Trash-80 emulator and play Raaka-Tu [figmentfly.com] every so often, or Bedlam... [figmentfly.com]
Ditto for the DOS games. When a game is still enjoyable 20 years later, THAT, my friends, is value.
Re:IT'S ABOUT TIME (Score:5, Informative)
Jail? Your not serious are you?
Just in case your not kidding, it is not illegal or even close to anything remotely criminal to put custom firmware on ANY PIECE OF ELECTRONICS THAT YOU OWN.
That may just be what Sony is trying to push with their PR campaign throughout the world, which is that they have complete and total control of their equipment everywhere and to go against that is a crime... and kills puppies.
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and kills puppies.
You mean it doesn't?! Damn.
All that wasted time...
Re:IT'S ABOUT TIME (Score:4, Interesting)
Um, doesn't the DMCA make it illegal to circumvent the Wii's anti-piracy protection? I'm no lawyer but this seems blatantly illegal in the US.
Re:IT'S ABOUT TIME (Score:5, Insightful)
Good question. That would be a tough argument for the prosecutor. You own the equipment out right, as in TOTALLY YOURS. Your property.
I would say that completely overwriting the base software with your own is not "circumventing" anything and is not physically tampering with the hardware or software to *specifically* achieve the goal of bypassing copyright protection schemes. You would have to prove that the secondary effect of removing the copyright protection provided through factory firmware was in fact the primary goal that the person was trying to achieve. You would have to prove intent. A Modchip is a "blatant" attempt to circumvent copyright protection. You cannot interpret it any other way. Custom Firmware is not even in the same ballpark as a Modchip.
What you also bring up is an underlying misconception that many people have, which is that homebrew and custom firmware's primary goal IS to circumvent copyright protection to facilitate and abet piracy (copyright infringment).
The fundamental purpose of custom firmware is to use any given hardware *exactly* the way that you want to use it. It is not a criminally motivated behavior.
Custom Firmware != Piracy. Custom Firmware != Copyright Protection Circumvention.
In any case, if there was further legislation which provided punishments for you using the software of your choice with the hardware of your choice, I would say that the law itself is an unjust law. I would then wholeheartedly advocate civil disobediance with respect to that law. Yes, as you may already have guessed, I think the DMCA is unconstitutional and ethically bankrupt as far as laws go. However, I don't even think custom firmware for any game console is actually violating it in the first place.
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Your an idiot and a troll. However, since you are holding out your hands with your name proudly worn on your little chest, I will feed you, with a little bit of my karma too if necessary.
Naivety - lack of sophistication or worldliness. I hardly think that anything that I wrote would indicate that I lack sophistication or worldliness.
Instead of throwing insults around, which would not hold much weight in a court of law (The movie Idiocy being an exception) try responding to the arguments.
My position that in
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While I hate to get off topic, I can't help but find it wildly amusing that you call me an idiot and a troll, and then suggested that I stop 'throwing insults around', and proceed to involve irony.
Regardless of how 'sophisticated' you feel your positions are, they've been arg
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Re:IT'S ABOUT TIME (Score:5, Interesting)
You are a total and complete fucking idiot and a coward. I don't care if that completely resets my karma on /. either. Fuck the anonymous posting, I will say it to your face.
You are the reason why some men have the ability to dominate others through fear and violence. Because you are a PUSSY and will not stand up for your rights, or SUFFER FOR THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS.
Thank the Heavens that Ghandi did not have your sentiment. That Martin Luther King did not stay home settling for a little fear instead of fighting for everyone's rights.
It will be people like you that lead us all to oppressive fascist totalitarian governments. Becuase people get the government they deserve, and if you are willing to live in FEAR and SETTLE than you don't DESERVE FREEDOM.
My god, fuck you. Seriously... Just fuck you. This has nothing to do with Sony or custom firmware either. Just your proposition that we live in fear rather than stand up for freedoms, or even our belief in freedoms, to gain temporary safety and security. Wow. Fuck YOU.
You sit at home you little PUSSY. The rest of real MEN (including some pretty awesome Women too) will be outside risking our lives, liberty, and property to make sure little fuckers like you have some freedoms left.
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... from the just-added-yourself-to-the-terrorist-watch-list-but-hopefully-it-was-worth-it dept. :)
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This firmware doesn't allow you to pirate games. It allows you to load homebrew software from DVD-RW discs as opposed to just DVD-Rs.
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It sure is in the USA. Modifying your devices in ways that defeat built-in Copyright protection schemes is illegal because of the DMCA.
Who gets to define Copyright protection schemes? You certainly don't.
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Of course, IANAL, and i haven't actually applied/played with the code of this mod. it's possible that wholesale piracy is now possible without hardware modification, but i'll still be buying games i like regardless.
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If you can run homebrew code, you had to break the protection that only allows the device to run signed software.
They're putting it in gray area territory here: they broke the protection, but made it so it only work on software that users are authorised to copy... so its still breaking the protection, but for stuff no one will sue for.
I feel it is a perfectly good compromise (I'm heavily against piracy, but while I don't use homebrew, I feel its good when homebrew is encouraged in opposition to piracy), esp
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I echo your sentiments. Hat of to them for opening up the possibility of simple homebrew without the piracy, even if it's just until someone releases a new version of the firmware.
Re:IT'S ABOUT TIME (Score:5, Insightful)
> actively supports the installation of alternate operating systems
As long as you can live with a crippled virtual machine that only emulates a dumb framebuffer. No, I won't be buying a PS3 because they allow you to play in a sandbox. If I can't run accelerated 2D I wouldn't even ponder the notion. Notice that Xboxes make great MythTV frontends but the supposedly newer and 'Linux friendly' PS3 doesn't. And without full (3D) hardware access it isn't really an open platform.
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Exactly!
I laugh myself silly anytime somebody says that Sony PS3 is an open platform. If THAT is an open platform than I can tell somebody that they can sleep over at my house.... in the backyard ... next to the trash cans, and still seem like a nice and hospitable guy.
Sony is as much an open platform as a public kiosk is a home computer.
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The official Blessed-from-on-high firmware includes a deliberately and severely crippled VM that you can load stuff on. Nothing more. Not a bad feature to have; but not even close to "installation of alternate operating systems".
For that matter, I think the PS3 might still be the least open of this generation of consoles. The Wii gets hacked around pretty routinely, and there ar
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To be fair, even if it is completely crippled, it's still a lot more open than any commercial console for the last 10 or 20 years has been.
Saying the 360 is more open because it's been hacked is a little unfair, Microsoft in no way helped or guided anyone to hack it, it just so happens someone found a problem with the DVD-Rom's firmware that could be exploited fairly easily.
Same for the wii, it's only open because someone found enough glitches to be able to open it. It'll soon happen to the PS3 (Although it
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The DVD firmware hacks don't make the Xbox open, they just let you play pirated games ... uh, sorry ... I mean "backed up" games. There was a hack that let you run Linux on it but that was sealed pretty quickly, a long time ago.
The XBox is probably the most open of the cons
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Actually the DVD-Rom hack is instrumental in running Linux and as far as I'm aware, if you're prepared to spend a few days brute forcing your CPU-ID, you can bypass any protection Microsoft has and downgrade your Firmware so that you may install Linux once again.
Still, it's not as ideal as the original Xbox hacks and a "true" hack to install custom *nix has yet to be seen.
As for XNA, it's a step forward, but it's still pretty limited. It's not as limited as Sony's *nix stuff, but it's not that far off.
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The PS3 does not have a spectacular video card. If you want to play with high end 3D graphics programming, go do it on your PC. The PS3 has a CBE chip and if you want to program one of those, you can do so on a PS3 freely and without breaking any rules.
If you'd like a PS3 development kit to try your hand at 3D game development, you can order one of those from Sony.
If you just want to do 3D on your desktop, then the PS3 is not the platform you're looking for. Yes, as a result of being designed primarily a
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> Feel free to believe that 3D graphics hardware is the be all and
> end all of systems programming though. You'd be wrong though.
I don't particularly want to play games on the damned thing. I said I'd even consider buying one if it had 2D that didn't suck ass. But video that is more on par with a plain VESA framebuffer just doesn't cut it.
So you can go play with the SPUs on that closed VM they give ya and when the box is eventually cracked I'll have another look... but by then it probbaly won't be '
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There's no VM -- I'm not sure what you think you're on about. Maybe you should look at the IBM SDK documentation or the kernel development logs from the patches submitted to make things work on it.
Yes, there's hardware restrictions in place, but you're running right on the hardware as far as the CPU's concerned. You get access to USB and the hard drive through kernel level drivers to the hardware through Sony's hypervisor, yes, and your video access is somewhat limited although despite Sony's not providin
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XBox doesn't invite you to install Linux. Sony does. Sony invites you to install Linux, gives you the tools, uses standard hardware, and even allows you to upgrade your HDD without voiding the warranty.
You're saying XBox is an open platform where as Sony isn't. Sony's platform is open. The XBox was just hacked easier.
Hacked is not the same thing as open.
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Perhaps you should try telling that to the OpenMoko [openmoko.org] people.
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Either the coder who fixed it did a sloppy job, or he left the actual vulnerability there on purpose.
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In addition, Nintendo is in the unique position that a business case can be made for this action: The fact that the console is moddable with minimal effort means that more people will buy it for hackery, and since they still make a profit off each sale, they still make a profit. Oh, and they sell a copy of Twilight Princess too.
Of course, they'd s
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What if you created a number of channels, and assigned things to them? Sports channel, action channel, cartoon channel... and an "Unassigned" and "Everything" channel? Opening the channel plays a random video at a random position (as shown by the preview, running!); or selecting it with another button brings up the programming list :)