



Review of HTC's X7510 Advantage Smartphone 64
An anonymous reader writes "DigitalBurn.com has posted a review of HTC's new X7510 Advantage smartphone. It is technically a smartphone, but looks more like a small laptop since it has a 5" VGA touchscreen display. Other features include tri-band HDSPA 3G data, a 3 megapixel auto-focus camera, a magnetically attached QWERTY keyboard, and a full-blown Opera 9 web browser. It can even be hooked up to a TV or external monitor/projector."
But... does it make phone calls? (Score:2)
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No thank you.
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Bill Gates, Andy Grove, & Jerry sanders (CEOs of Microsoft, Intel & AMD) were in a high-powered business meeting. During the serious, tense discussions, a beeping noise was suddenly emitted from where Bill was sitting.
Bill said : "Oh! that's my emergency beeper. Gentlemen, excuse me, I really need to take this call.: So Bill lifted his wrist-watch to his ear and began talking into the end of his tie. Having complete
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http://www.phonemag.com/xperia-x1-vs-iphone-spend-now-or-save-02943.php [phonemag.com]
Looks about the same size as an iPhone but it has a foldout qwerty keyboard and HSDPA. It has Wifi too. Oh and unlike the iPhone it has microSDHC slot which allows for cards upto 32GB, though only 8GB cards currently exist [wikipedia.org]. Still 8GB is a lot of music or media files. And they only cost about US$50 [newegg.com]. I can use WinamPAQ on the X1.
The display is much higher resolution than an iPhone too, 800*480 [wikipedia.org] inste
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And I miss one thing on modern smartphones that I had on my old Palm m505 - a lid that can cover the display. I want the display to be protected when it's in my pocket, not only for fear of cracking it, but sometimes the phone may wake up on an event and enable the touchscreen, and if the phone is in the pocket you can end up dialing whoever/whatever...
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I can't keep track of all the times someone's sat down, shifted in their seat, or bumped into someone and I got a call from them with random background noise. That's bad enough. Calling 911 with gunfire in the background, well, that's a whole different level.
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Still, I would think they have a legal obligation to actually go check something like that out.
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Uh, everything's under control. Situation normal. Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?
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I agree. It looks quite cool but when something tries to be all things to all men, it normally fail in some areas.
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Welp, it's already slashdotted! (Score:2)
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Can't imagine this will be a successful product (Score:4, Insightful)
I can bet this thing will almost certainly flop when it comes to market. Heck, even the US rebate check isn't enough to cover the cost of one of these!
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13.2 oz for the device + 3.7 oz for the keyboard = 16.9 oz, or 1 lb, 0.9 oz.
(375 g + 104 g = 479 g).
The Eee PC 701 weighs in at 895 g (1 lb 15½ oz) for the 2G Surf or 920 g (2 lb ½ oz) for the 4G and 8G models.
This thing is almost a modern replacement for the Psion palmtops, but they had better keyboards.
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I can also carrying a mp3 player, cell phone, rolodex of my contacts, portable DVD player, Eee PC, alarm clock, and camera at all times, instead of just getting a modern phone.
Convergence is worth money. GOOD convergence is worth a LOT of money.
Whats the battery life? (Score:2)
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By Michael Oryl â May 21, 2008
The HTC X7510 Advantage is a hard device to label. Technically it is a smartphone, because it runs the Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional OS and has the ability to make voice calls. But the fact that calls can only be made with the built-in speakerphone or a headset hint at the fact that it was not designed primarily as a voice device. Its size drives the point home even further, since it weighs as much as 3 normal sized smartphones at 375g (13.2oz). Thatâ(TM)s a lot of hardware, no question.
So what is the Advantage? It is a media and data-centric device that also happens to make calls. Think of it as one part smartphone, one part laptop, and a dash of media player voodoo for good measure. Its 134mm x 98mm x 20.5mm (5.3â x 3.9â x .8â) size without the keyboard means it is pocketable, but only barely. Compared to a laptop computer, though, the Advantage will run for hours without a charge (300 hours of standby, 5-6 hours of talk time) and can be easily toted around. And it can make that emergency phone call if you need it to.
The X7510â(TM)s large 5â VGA resolution touchscreen display is great for web browsing or video watching. The included Opera 9 browser makes the most of the huge touchscreen, allowing users to scroll with a finger or stylus and double tap to zoom in or out. It is a true laptop-like browsing experience, though perhaps a bit less zippy at times.
The zip factor depends largely on how the Advantage is getting its connectivity. On WiFi or an HDSPA 3G network (850/1900/2100MHz), it is pretty quick. HSDPA can provide 1000Kbps data downloads, while WiFi can double that as long as the X7510â(TM)s 624MHz processor and generous 128MB of RAM arenâ(TM)t juggling too many other tasks. If there is no high speed data available, youâ(TM)ll be stuck with quad-band GSM/EDGE support and sub-100Kbps download speeds. That might not be awe inspiring, but it will keep you in touch with the world. it is worth mentioning that the Opera 9 browser appears to ignore the WiFi connection if the WiFi system was enabled after Opera was already running, which is unlike how the Pocket IE and other apps behave.
Of course there is more to a device like the Advantage than just downloading web pages. Sometimes you need to give back a little. To that end, Advantage users can create and edit Word, Excel, and OneNote documents, and view PowerPoint presentations. To get the most of such abilities, though, you need more than the Windows Mobile on-screen QWERTY keyboard. Thatâ(TM)s where the X7510â(TM)s 104g (3.7oz) detachable keyboard comes in. It connects to the main body of the Advantage through a few brass contacts, and the keyboard is held in place with a pretty strong magnet. I am always surprised at how easy it is to get the keyboard into position - it just wants to go to the right place on its own.
Compared to the earlier Advantages, the keyboard that comes with the X7510 is quite different. For starters, the keys are molded into the top membrane of the keyboard (think Atari 400 for those of you old enough to remember back that far). There are ridges that separate each key, and a soft click and accompanying vibration greet each key press. It seems that the sound itself is somehow causing the haptic vibration, and as such there is no way to get the reassuring vibration feedback when the keyboard sound is muted. The click might be annoying to others when in a quiet room, but when there is any kind of ambient noise around at all, nobody will be the wiser.
Like all Windows Mobile smartphones, the X7510 Advantage supports over the air synchronization of email, contacts, tasks, and calendar appointments when linked up to a Microsoft Exchange server. I use a hosted Exchange account for email, and I love having push email delivered to the Advantage. It supports other push email systems when loaded with the appropriate software, and can also
too big (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:Not Apple == Crap (Score:4, Insightful)
A third altogether possible option is that there is a significant union between both of the above sets.
How in the name of blue fuck does a handheld device with a fold-open screen and a full keyboard, no native 'traditional' phone mode even remotely represent someone trying to copy the (All Hail The Apparently Omnipotent) iPhone?
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Yes, I have had to reboot it 3 times or so. But thats a drop in the bucket compared to other smart phones. A co-worker has a Windows Mobile pho
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MY DATAS! OH NOES! (Score:1)
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It may be right to worry about putting your credit cards in the same pocket. Although, as large as it is, there wouldn't be any room left in your pocket.
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It isn't a smartphone. (Score:4, Insightful)
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Spot on.
The 3G functionality in this device is there so that you can access the internet on the move. You'll be hard pressed to source a 3G chipset that won't do voice calls and SMS, so it makes sense for the manufacturer not to deliberately cripple the device by not providing this functionality.
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Jack of all trades... (Score:3, Insightful)
Hope it will run GNU/Linux (Score:1)
e-book (Score:2)
If it didn't cost your soul and left nut it might have been a nice ebook reader. No thanks. I'll keep my nokia, T5, and nikon for all that it does.
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So a soul is worth $1000? That market went same way as the real estate
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Soul is an abstract concept. It might or it might not exist so there for it could be priceless or worth nothing. Now my left nut on the other hand, well I'm kind of attached to that.
Pretty useless (Score:1, Informative)
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This seems familiar... (Score:1)
Video Drivers (Score:1)
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_TyTN_II#Video_Driver_Issues [wikipedia.org]
Voice calls only with a headset (Score:3, Insightful)
"So what is wrong with the X7510? Well, since it has the raw capability, would it really have hurt to let people use it as a regular phone in a pinch, without a headset? It seems to me that this would have been a relatively minor tweak, though I imagine it was left out so as to position the Advantage as a non-voice device first and foremost - but I think it was a mistake."
It seems the manufacturer has answered the question of "What is it?" in a way, by requiring a second piece of equipment to effectively use the phone part.
Unimpressive specifications (Score:1)
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N810 with WiMAX (Score:1, Interesting)
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actually not as useful as its predecessor (Score:2)
Lack of a control and escape key makes this potentially useful device annoyingly limited (for me)
I have a T-Mobile Ameo, and I love it
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This was me reading the review just now: (Score:4, Funny)
"The HTC X7510 Advantage is a hard device to label. Technically it is a smartphone, because it runs the Windows Mobile 6.1 Profes
Eh... (Score:1)
I wonder who honestly wants to view Windows Mobile on a full-size monitor?