Blazing Dual Channel Thumb Drive 216
Anonomisk Howard writes "The speed results from Big Bruin's review of OCZ's latest flash drive have me lusting for a new thumb drive. From the review: 'The OCZ Rally drive is not a radical new design, it does not look significantly different than any other USB 2.0 drive on the market, but then you plug it in and begin to use it. This thing smokes! The transfer times shown in the charts are what this drive is all about. If you want the fastest, sleekest, and most extreme drive currently on the market, this is the one to get.'"
pe (Score:3, Funny)
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I had 'nerd' in my job title once. There is a light saber in my car. I laugh at things like 'OCT 31 = DEC 25'. I have read User Friendly daily for 7 years. I alternate between science fiction and science fact in my reading. I have a room containing approximately 1400 feet of spare cables. I throw parties (by myself) for important milestones in the up-time of my servers.
My wife is not a nerd. She's a social genius who works with old folks - kind of the opposite of a nerd. She watches "Top Model".
Re:pe (Score:2)
I disagree. I find it pretty damn funny.
What They're Not Teaching In Sex Ed... (Score:5, Funny)
Ok, someone has a problem.
Not as strange as you think.. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Drive is defective (Score:2)
Burn, baby, burn! (Score:3, Funny)
Isn't that the reason people stopped using those xbox cables?
Re:Burn, baby, burn! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Burn, baby, burn! (Score:2)
Just what I need..... (Score:2, Funny)
YOU WON'T LOSE THE CAP (Score:2, Informative)
(1) It's small. About as small as any thumb drive I've seen.
(2) The outer shell of the drive AND THE CAP is made of thin metal and hard plastic. The cap contains a PLASTIC PLUG which mimics the shape of a USB port. The result is that the cap fits very snugly onto the drive's USB connector and has virtually zero chance of falling off.
In addition, the loop for ha
Re:Just what I need..... (Score:2)
You may want to check out one of the Apacer "Steno" drives [apacer.com]. The cap is strung through a braided cable loop that's molded into the sides of the drive. I've had mine for awhile now looped onto my keychain and its holding strong - lettering has worn off, though. It's also a pretty fast drive, as well, and quick Froogle shows the 512MB model is going for around $40.
Re:Just what I need..... (Score:2, Insightful)
but why (Score:5, Interesting)
Whats with all the redundant plastic?
Re:but why (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm sure James Bond uses the same thing but with a smaller form factor.
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Re:but why (Score:2)
And then they could sell you another one the next week...
Re:but why (Score:2)
As long as they could still be attached to a keyring, it could be as small as physically possible, and I would lose it about as often as I lose my keys. (Which has never happened yet; knock on wood.)
Jason.
Re:but why (Score:2)
Speak for yourself! I have a PQI I-Stick [pqi1st.com], which is teh tiny. It comes with an optional housing so you can carry it like a normal USB drive, on a keyring, etc, but it also comes with a credit-card sized plastic holder that can hold two keys, and slips into your wallet. It's great. I always have my wallet, so I always have my USB drive. I don't particularly want something else hanging off my keyring either.
And I've had it over a year without losin
Re:but why (Score:5, Funny)
Getting USB 2.0 compatability _and_ a fresh minty flavour would drive the prices through the roof so it's just not going to happen.
Swallow?! (Score:3, Funny)
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Re:but why (Score:2)
the smaller ones are small enough
Re:but why (Score:3, Insightful)
Another factor is ease of use. I personally have sausage-fingers, so something 1-cm square is very awkward to handle. I'm sure other slashdotters have the same problem. Throw in the fact that I enjoy the occasional adult beverage (or three) in the evening, and that teeny drive is almost impossible to use.
Also, many USB drives are recessed, it's hard to grasp something that doesn't stick out past the surface of your case at least a cm or
Re:but why (Score:2, Informative)
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Re:but why (Score:2)
Not necessarily.
48 pin TSOP chips are often used for Flash memory, and are 1.2 cm x 2 cm. It's easier and cheaper to assemble a flash drive with TSOP chips rather than BGA. TSOP has the pins along two sides of the paackage. BGA has all the connections on the bottom in a grid, but without pins - just solder balls. Other technologies (such as COB) are not a good fit for the product (quantity, price point, manufacturing capacity, turn around, lead
Re:but why (Score:2)
Re:but why (Score:2)
Now I have a 4gb SanDisk Cruzer Mini. 4gb, largest you can get, usb 2.0hs, huge activity light, and incredibly small profile. Won't block any adjacent ports. Everyone that uses a flash drive should have one of these. Only co
Gonna Order One Today (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Gonna Order One Today (Score:2)
Re:Gonna Order One Today (Score:2)
How much? (Score:5, Insightful)
Sponsors? (Score:4, Interesting)
I figured you were being sarcastic, but honestly I've seen so many 'articles' on this site, that maybe you were being serious.
Re:How much? (Score:5, Informative)
1. Write review of stupid product/service.
2. Submit to Slashdot
3. Profit
4. Goto 1
Slashdot's story queue is probably overflowing with trash like this "article." I can't believe that the one they accepted was about a "blazing" thumb drive. How fast can a fucking thumb drive be, and who fucking cares?
Re:How much? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:How much? (Score:2)
lets see mr. 1336 haxx0r deal with that
Re:How much? (Score:2)
Haha, you got me for a second there. Want to have a look at my Write Only Memory [catb.org] as storage for your high security data?
English improvement suggestion (Score:2)
I think it's great that you're trying to improve your English. I only wish more native English speakers would the same! :p
Although many people combine two sentences with a comma, doing so actually creates a run-on sentence that is grammatically incorrect. You can correct this by either saying:
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Re:English improvement suggestion (Score:2)
Re:How much? (Score:3, Interesting)
On top of that it was just plain stupid, and as usual the "geeks" of /. just fell for it.
Re:How much? (Score:2)
Now if it turns out the benchmark was intentionally skewed (i.e. other existing competitive products were excluded from the test), then I agree with you.
Re:How much? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:How much? (Score:3, Funny)
Hahaha! You don't think we actually clicked on the link and read TFA do you? You must, as they say, be new here...
Re:How much? (Score:2)
Some actually read more than the slashdot headlines, but you don't, but hey, you probably fight for f!rst p0st!
uuhh.. beavis.. (Score:5, Funny)
But but (Score:5, Funny)
The only things important to me are data integrity (a non-issue with 99% of the drives, even the cheapest ones), and a housing solid enough to make the thing survive the odd collection of objects it live with in my bag. Most other people who use these drives don't want anything else from them either.
Depends on what you use them for (Score:3, Interesting)
Well, espically for the service packs (I have one of these particular USB drives) the extra speed is really nice. Takes long enough as is. Also very nice for if I need to grab another program to install. Say they need Eclipse
Re:But but (Score:2)
When my office does blanket installs of (certain) software, it's done via USB key -- for 90+ PCs. At a minute saved per install, wouldn't you prefer more spe
Re:But but (Score:3, Insightful)
Just because you use your thumb drive one way, don't assume everyone else uses theirs the same way.
Re:But but (Score:2)
My HD's for the past few years have pushed 50M/s STR. I'm sorry you can't see why I mig
Re:But but (Score:2)
One solution with greater versatility is the Aleratec U [aleratec.com]
Re:But but (Score:2)
I totally agree. What surprised the hell out of me was that one day (for some odd reason) I copied a large file from a USB stick to the HD twice (different names). I was totally baffled when I found out that the files didn't compare 100%. Tried it several times, and everytime I copied the file off, it was different by 5 or 6 bytes (a 64MB file or something).
This was on a 128MB PQI Intelligent Stick [pqi1st.com]
Gadget Consumer != Geek (Score:2)
Depends what you mean by 'geek'; personally, I consider myself a geek, but that doesn't apply to me in a number of cases. In fact, it can also apply to a number of people (mainly men) who aren't "geeks" by any real measure.
Your view is very consumerist and reminds me of "Think Geek", who sell "stuff for smart masses" by flattering those who like to assert their geek iden
Um, so what (Score:2, Funny)
Also, probably a big also, most systems hard drives significantly underperform, so are you even going to get that much improvement by a faster USB drive? No matter what I have done, I have never gotten sustained 48MB/s transfer from
Re:Um, so what (Score:2)
I get that when transfering GB-sized files from one disk to the other (SATAATA133), but that's far from typical transfers, like those when you're starting and application up. Slow random (track-to-track) HD read speeds ensure you don't get more then 10MB/s at best. And, if you by accident start up two big apps at once... go for a coffee break.
On the other hand, random access on flash is almost as fast as seque
Aluminum vs. Plastic (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't know why this is an advantage, however, other than cosmetically. Aluminum cases are a tiny bit more mechanically stable than plastic, especially cheap plastics... but since I'm not hitting my flash drives with a hammer, it doesn't matter to me. Proper design would prevent flexion from being a problem too, if I accidentally left it in my back pocket and sat down or something.
I'm also guessing that manufacturing costs for aluminum are less, not sure about materials cost.
Anyone out there who could shed some insight into why aluminum is preferred over well-designed plastic?
Re:Aluminum vs. Plastic (Score:2)
To lull stupid reviewers into writing good reviews?
Re:Aluminum vs. Plastic (Score:2)
Aluminum tends to bend in situations where plastic would crack or shatter.
But, that said, we're talking about a light, farily small product here. I throw my iPod Shuffle accross the room at the wall to freak people out, and it has held up fine.
Re:Aluminum vs. Plastic (Score:2)
Because aluminum is more EXTREME.
The last thumb drive I read, which did a much better job, indicated that performance increased with block size even out to several MB blocks. If my thumb drive usage is any indication, we're mostly dealing with smaller sizes. I would have liked to have seen in the review some more scientific methodology regarding this issue.
Re:Aluminum vs. Plastic (Score:2)
From teh OCZ Website [ocztechnology.com]
Re:Aluminum vs. Plastic (Score:2)
I think aluminum looks and feels nicer in many cases, and anodizing helps it maintain its appearance and gives it pretty colors in a shiny part.
"Flexion" doesn't seem to be a term that applies to this, so I don't know what you mean.
I would think that if you want a part to survive a hit with a hammer, polycarbonate would be
Re:Aluminum vs. Plastic (Score:2)
Re: flexion, sorry for applying my physiology vocab to mechanics... what I mean is 'bendyness,' dunno the ME term.
And my point is that I'm not going to hit it with a hammer, which is why I don't need ultra-tough casings.
Engineering (Score:2)
-everphilski-
Re:Aluminum vs. Plastic (Score:2)
Missing Favorite Thumb Drive Feature (Score:2)
It had a manual write-protect switch.
17MB/sec != "blazing speed" (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:17MB/sec != "blazing speed" (Score:2)
I'm a shortness-challenged little person, you insensitive clod!
This would be nice (Score:2, Informative)
"Fastest" I will grant them. (Score:5, Funny)
rice it. (Score:2)
I've got a bolt on spoiler, a folgers can (spray painted gloss black), and NOS stickers.
Hell, the NOS stickers alone get me an extra 2MB/s.
Re:"Fastest" I will grant them. (Score:2)
You mean like the heat spreaders on these [ocztechnology.com]?
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The universe is a figment of its own imagination.
This will be really useful... (Score:5, Funny)
Every time I have done this before, they have come back with about 30 seconds left to finish, leaving me with little option but to hide in the filing cabinet.
James Bond
(Has anyone else noticed that the time remaining in films is always accurate, and doesn't jump around like the real life ones?)
Basic questions (Score:3, Interesting)
1. What is the transfer rate of this thing?
2. What is the fastest that could be done based on the USB port design?
3. What is the transfer rate to a typical internal hard disk?
4. What is the transfer rate of a typical USB thumb drive?
5. What is the transfer rate of a typical large external USB drive?
Printing a few ratios would go a long way to knowing whether this really is a big deal.
Re:Basic questions (Score:5, Funny)
2) faster than this
3) very fast (compared to this)
4) slower than this
5) faster than this, but slower than 3. also, not quite the theoretical limit of 2.
Hope these answers help!
Re:Basic questions (Score:2)
Ah, so you work for AOL tech support I see.
Re:Basic questions (Score:3, Informative)
2. 60 MB/sec. http://www.usb-2-0.com/what-is-usb-2-0.html#2.%20H ow%20fast%20is%20USB%202.0 [usb-2-0.com]
3. 60 MB/sec. http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200511/HDS72 5050KLA360_2.html [storagereview.com]
4. 11 MB/sec. http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20050520/usb_f lash_drives-09.html [tomshardware.com]
5. 35 MB/sec. http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2515 [anandtech.com]
It's 1.5 times as fast as your average flash, and only half as slow as your typical USB hard drive.
Dual channel (Score:2)
WTF is Dual Channel USB 2?
These things rock (Score:5, Informative)
Then the question is.. why? (Score:2)
Does it simply employ much faster memory ? Extra-fast memory that acts as a buffer ? Does it do away with things like integrity checks - taking a bet that their memory is fine, and the writes are fine ?
I'm going to guess the manufacturer won't tell us
Just like having 144 floppies in your pocket!!! (Score:2)
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Re:Just like having 144 floppies in your pocket!!! (Score:2)
-Rick
"real world speeds" (Score:3, Interesting)
Lexar Lightning (Score:3, Informative)
Jason
AnandTech flash drive roundup (Score:5, Informative)
Although it could be considered the cheapest fast drive in a way...
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=25
Re:AnandTech flash drive roundup (Score:2)
Okay, dual channel is great, but... (Score:4, Insightful)
And don't even start with the "What, aren't flash drives fast enough already!?" line. My company was tasked with setting up a accounting firm to cheaply work from home, via USB thumb drives. Copying 3 meg spread across a few thousand small files took something on the order of 15 minutes. It's pretty hard to get people to synch nightly on their way out the door with times like that.
Re:Okay, dual channel is great, but... (Score:2)
How reliable are these benchmarks? (Score:2, Informative)
"At 27 MB/sec maximum read transfer rate, Transcend has set the bar pretty high for its competition."
Re:How reliable are these benchmarks? (Score:2)
I noticed in AnandTech's USB roundup that they compared against the Jetflash 512K model, not the 2gb. They also tested the OCZ 512k "Rally" drive and it was much slower than the numbers quoted in the
"Most Extreme" (Score:5, Funny)
Crow T. Trollbot
Oh shit... (Score:3, Funny)
USB Hard Drive Enclosure (Score:2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N8
Cheap, fast, and as much storage as I want to put in it.
For Comparison (Score:3, Informative)
Transfer Rate - Begin (MB/s)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 (400 GB SATA) - 69.8
Western Digital Caviar WD3200JD (320 GB SATA) - 66.5
Maxtor MaXLine III (300 GB SATA) - 65.7
Western Digital Caviar WD2500JD (250 GB SATA) - 60.6
Hitachi Deskstar 7K400 (400 GB SATA) - 60.4
Samsung SpinPoint P80 (160 GB SATA) - 60.2
Transfer Rate - End (MB/s)
Western Digital Caviar WD3200JD (320 GB SATA) - 40.8
Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 (400 GB SATA) - 39.9
Western Digital Caviar WD2500JD (250 GB SATA) - 37.8
Maxtor MaXLine III (300 GB SATA) - 37.2
Samsung SpinPoint P80 (160 GB SATA) - 36.5 |
Hitachi Deskstar 7K400 (400 GB SATA) - 32.9
Looks like the flash drives still have a way to go to compete with current hard drives data rates.
This is new? (Score:2)
Tom
Re:This is nothing new... (Score:2)