A History of Portable Computing 281
PCM2 writes "MobilePC magazine is running an exhaustive history of portable computers, going all the way from the IBM Portable 5100 to last year's OQO. Do you remember the three-pound Epson HX-20 from 1982 that boasted a 50-hour battery life? Or that the first color portable came from Commodore? Interesting stuff." They have the compaq luggable I learned BASIC on in middle school in the 80s. 28lbs of power baby!
Programmable Calculators ? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Programmable Calculators ? (Score:3, Funny)
HP-65: the first portable computer (Score:2)
Early programmable calculators were surprisingly powerful for their day and you could learn all the basics of computing from them. (Plus on ones like the HP-67 and HP-25 you could write a progr
Definition of portable (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Definition of portable (Score:2, Interesting)
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Re:Definition of portable (Score:2)
In fact, I hear they're working on one that will be powered and self-portable.
three-pound... wow that's heavy! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:three-pound... wow that's heavy! (Score:2)
No TRS-80's? (Score:5, Interesting)
or at least it was my first laptop, and I have many fond memories of downloading games off of a bbs on a 300bps modem
Re:No TRS-80's? (Score:2)
Re:No TRS-80's? (Score:2)
Re:No TRS-80's? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:No TRS-80's? ^^^ MOD UP ^^^ (Score:2)
http://oldcomputers.net/trs100.html
Re:No TRS-80's? ^^^ MOD UP ^^^ (Score:2)
I acquired the NEC equivalent of one of those some years ago - it's one of the reasons my programming to this day is a bit
Bastard evil thing went and died recently, and now just displays flickering, corrupted rubbish on th
Re:No TRS-80's? (Score:2)
A couple years back, I remember reading, here on
OQO? (Score:5, Interesting)
Extra points if you post from the OQO.
Re:OQO? (Score:2)
He's a pretty cool dude, decent review.
Re:OQO? (Score:2)
*The company claims up to three hours of computing per charge, but if you're like me and keep WiFi turned on all the time, expect more like two hours.*
that's bad. especially for an "ultra portable". what good is power in your pocket if you need power from the socket to keep it running?
Re:OQO? (Score:5, Informative)
Christopher Null
Editor in Chief
Mobile PC
Remember? (Score:4, Funny)
Back then, it was considered clever to quip, "Is that a UNIVAC in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?"
Nerds? (Score:5, Funny)
Nerds? Starbucks and powerbooks don't remind me of nerds. They remind me of metrosexuals.
Re:Overspending Nerds? (Score:2)
Re:Nerds? [Mod: OFFTOPIC] (Score:2)
And as ever, Apple creates the current paradigm... (Score:5, Interesting)
I think every laptop I have ever owned is basically a very similar variant of that simple design! Way to go Apple.
Re:And as ever, Apple creates the current paradigm (Score:2)
The Apple design on that link is the Thinkpad with a few more curves.
Re:And as ever, Apple creates the current paradigm (Score:3, Informative)
Look at this timeline [mobilepcmag.com] and tell me who had the idea first.
Re:And as ever, Apple creates the current paradigm (Score:3, Informative)
Uh, Sony? They designed and manufactured the 100 for Apple (to Apple's specs, of course).
Re:And as ever, Apple creates the current paradigm (Score:3, Informative)
Manufactured, yes. Designed - not at all. It was designed by Robert Brunner, head of Apple Design Group of that day. He scored many awards for his powerbooks (powerbook 500 was also a huge success).
Re:And as ever, Apple creates the current paradigm (Score:3, Insightful)
If the paradigm is fold up screen, then the GRID is the first one like that.
If the paradigm is the computer being stored under the keyboard, instead of in back of it, then they probably get the credit.
Re:And as ever, Apple creates the current paradigm (Score:2)
Overrated (Score:3, Insightful)
Complete? (Score:2, Informative)
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Ahhh, Compaq. (Score:5, Interesting)
They have the compaq luggable I learned BASIC on in middle school in the 80s.
I remember being a wee kid, and doing some simple programming on an 80s Compaq behemoth as well. I had a floppy disk (5 1/4", of course) that held roughly 20-30 games on it. Nothing like launching up Frogger and staring at the miniscule 6"x6" green-monochrome screen for hours. I'm surprised I don't wear glasses today.
Anyhow, imagine my surprise when I took a job a few years back, and noticed that we are using said Compaq as a status/communications monitor in one of our test machines.
Good times.
Re:Ahhh, Compaq. (Score:2)
Re:Ahhh, Compaq. (Score:2)
When the original Macintosh portable came out, I played Leather Goddesses of Phobos on it, in all it's non-backlit LCD display goodness.
Shoddy reporting a.k.a get your timelines straight (Score:5, Informative)
Considering that the Newton wasn't released until 1993, it seems difficult to believe that it preceded the Powerbook 100. Mobile PC needs an editor who can fact check.
Re:Shoddy reporting a.k.a get your timelines strai (Score:2, Informative)
This guy is their Editor-in-Chief too.
Re:Shoddy reporting a.k.a get your timelines strai (Score:3, Interesting)
The reason why so many people think it "bombed" was because they spent too long a time and too much money on R&D, they set their expectations too high, and later when the Palm Pilot entered the market, they looked bad by comparison. Before the Pilot came out, they were the best selling PDA by far.
Re:Shoddy reporting a.k.a get your timelines strai (Score:2)
You heard the sound of a dozen Jaws hitting the floor when I was asked what I was doing with the machine, I replied "taking notes in FrameMaker". That I could carry a machine into a conference room, turn it on, and run FrameMaker in 1989-1990 was simply unbelievable.
Re:Shoddy reporting a.k.a get your timelines strai (Score:2)
Hah! (Score:2)
I carried that machine home and back to work for a year or so, before I finally convinced my boss to pay for a PC for me at home.
Great times. Now I use a Sony X505, which is just about the lightest notebook every made.
Amiga 600? (Score:2)
Re:Amiga 600? (Score:5, Funny)
that what? Do we have to wait for Timothy's dupe to get this cliff hanger resolved? Stay tuned for the next exciting dupe on "As the Slash Dots"?
Re:Amiga 600? (Score:2)
Re:Amiga 600? (Score:2)
I did indeed know what he meant. I also know a good set up when I see it.
A note to the anti-grammar Nazi Nazis: This is why you get so much shit!
Learn something every day (Score:2)
I had thought it was ahead of its time, now I know it was an anemic machine, just with a brilliant keyboard.
What a waste.
Re:Learn something every day (Score:3, Informative)
I hated it, since I a bunch of them in my department I was respsonsible for. Two main reasons: (1) The butterfly mechanism was somewhat fragile, and (2) any PCMCIA peripherals that stuck out from the slot (network adapaters in particular) couldn't stick up even the slightest bit from the slot, or the butterfly action and the PCMCIA device interfered.
Old Home-Built Handheld (Score:5, Interesting)
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Battery Life :-) (Score:3, Interesting)
I'd give up the CD/DVD, the color screen, the ghz proc. I'd give up most things to get a decent battery life. Now the ideal would be about 40hrs.
Any ideas?
There are notebooks with 8 hr battery life (Score:2)
Yes, I'm shipping to the US.
Bollocks on the IBM 5100 (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Bollocks on the IBM 5100 (Score:2)
The IBM 5100 Basic had a very peculiar bug. For one of loop statements (a 'for' loop, i believe), once you typed in the statement, you could not edit it in any way. If you did, the statement would not work correctly. This included editing any comments at the end of the line. Very aggrivating, this was. You'ld type in a
I really hate stories (Score:2)
In 1968, Xerox PARC's Alan Kay came up with a bold idea: Saw those legs off the table and shrink the computer down to more manageable chunks that could be stitched together and tucked under your arm. His Dynabook was originally envisioned as a computer for children. Inspired by the design of a regular hardback book, the Dynabook featured a flat-panel
Re:I really hate stories (Score:2)
However, it's good to see that you have evolved so much beyond the humans of 1968 that you're much smarter than they were, so that such ideas are obvious to you.
Re:I really hate stories (Score:2)
Re:I really hate stories (Score:2)
Fine, I'll go with it. First of all, you assume that all Alan Kay did was mention in an off-hand conversation, "Wouldn't it be cool to have a computer that was like a book." The truth of the matter is that he did considerable work on it, although it ultimately didn't succeed. However, others that came after, that did succeed, where based on the ideas he had developed.
Which goes to y
Batteries Anyone? (Score:2, Interesting)
Seems that batteries havnt really improved much in the last 20 yrs. The only thing that seems to have greatly improved is power-consumption with better, low power chip designs.
I wonder how long an old Apple ][e could run if it was re-designed with low power components? (not that I'd want to actually use it!) Could I run it for a couple days on flash-light batteries?
Anyone have any info on h
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Oh man, Osborne CP/M .. (Score:5, Funny)
I was only allowed to touch 'the wordprocessor' because I'd already mastered the drills and homekeys of every other typewriter in the class (Typing A, Senior High School)
Good times, good times
I'd love to have an Osborne around, but alas the oldest computer I ever owned that I still have is a lowly Oric-1, whose treasured spot in a box in the attic at home is right next to the "Local Boy Wins in State Typing Championship" newspaper article, cheesy photo and all
Re:Oh man, Osborne CP/M .. (Score:3, Funny)
The Osbourne: Smells like teen spirit!
Re:Oh man, Osborne CP/M .. (Score:5, Funny)
Commodore SX-64 (Score:2, Interesting)
They forgot the best feature... Re:Commodore SX-64 (Score:3, Funny)
Huh, what sort of article is this? (Score:3, Funny)
The Timex Sinclair (Score:3, Funny)
Carrying around a TV was harsh though.
Timex Sinclair Emulator [vavasour.ca]
Timex Sinclair Picture [bigredtoybox.com]
Re:The Timex Sinclair (Score:2)
No wonder I have back problems lugging this around: Vintage TV [medium.ca]
They missed alot.. (Score:2)
And just look where we are now (Score:4, Funny)
I can't believe they missed out... (Score:2, Informative)
early laptop battery life (Score:2)
First one was a TRS80 model 100 'laptop'. Had a 12 line / 40 column LCD display and
My next laptop (of this story) I got in 1991. It was a Toshiba T1100+.
7.16mhz 8086 processor
640K of memory
two 3 1/2 inch floppies
80/24 CGA (mono) LCD screen.
At the time I got my boot profile so heavily optimized that I could load a DOS 3.3, a minimal word process
What, no Zaurus? (Score:2)
The 5100 was a neat machine (Score:2)
No mention of the Sinclair Z88! (Score:2)
Re:No mention of the Sinclair Z88! (Score:2)
Biggest problem I had with my Z88 was battery life: Alkaline AAs were OK but expensive, NiCds were useless, and we didn't have any NiMH AAs back then. I rigged up a bundle of 8 D-Cells with a power socket, which also served to angle the Z88 for better typing, and that kept me going through marathon research sessions in the Imperial College library. The keyboard was surprisingly good: rubber, but silent and reasonably responsive, even without the optional keyc
Re:No mention of the Sinclair Z88! (Score:2)
The Z88 was practically unique in being a Sinclair product that it worked straight out of the box AND it kept on working. Mine was out in the rain, dumped at the bottom of suitcases, dropped, sat on - you name it - and it kept on working! In the end it didn't survive a move to Milton Keynes - but then, few things do ;)
Uh oh, nostalgia is coming on;
Ahh the memories! (Score:2)
vulcan vaporware (Score:2)
Yea, IBM 5100! (Score:2)
It came with a cassette of cheesy text-based games like Hunt the Wampus and Star Trek. After I got bored playing them, I printed out the BASIC and figured out how to re-write them for my Apple ][. That was my introduction to programming.
IBM 5100 - A Time Travelers Favorite (Score:5, Interesting)
Visit, http://www.johntitor.com/ [johntitor.com] to see why!
That said, the reason he states is The 5100 has the ability to easily translate between the old IBM code, APL, BASIC and (with a few tweaks in 1975) UNIX.
This makes little sense to me, it can translate between 2 languages and an operating system? Perhaps this is a hoax *grin* Still, hundreds have read this guys postings, and he has been the topic of coast2coast more than once. The inconsistencies in his story lead little credence to his claims, as for Art Bell's show, that's for you to decide.
No mention of Psion? (Score:3, Informative)
Compaq SLuT (Score:3, Interesting)
No idea what the original battery was like - I had to build my own battery from old cellphone ni-cads, and had to mod the case a bit to get it all to fit. I also managed to get the docking station (where you could add EISA cards and such). But the real treat was the keyboard...
It was detatchable! You could detatch the keyboard and it had a cord so you could position it how you wanted. In reality, it used a PS/2-style mini-connector (not sure how compatible it really was with PS/2 stuff), so the keyboard was like a mini-keyboard of sorts.
It was a great computer, and I played around with it and such a lot - even managed to use a form of Linux on it (my first Linux experience - it was Monkey Linux which ran on top of the DOS filesystem!)...
Memories. (Score:3, Interesting)
Mac PORTABLE Apple's worst laptop? (Score:3, Informative)
Epson HX-20 (Score:2)
Yes! That was a neat machine. A built-in printer! And a BASIC interpreter in ROM. I developed some programs on that computer for a biotech company. But I quickly ran out of memory for the BASIC programs. To save memory, you could stack several BASIC commands on one line and use one or two-letter variable names. Ugh!
So I wrote a program translator on the VAX/VMS system that the company had. (The VAX had a gigantic 2 megabytes of main memory!) The transl
I owned laptop manufactured in 1987 (Score:3, Interesting)
Ten years ago, I owned an old PC laptop manufactured in 1987. I don't remember its name but in was 8088 (4.77 MHz) equipped with 512k of RAM and 720k 3.5'' floppy drive. The last OS that worked on it was MS DOS 6.22. Qbasic was amazing
Re:I owned laptop manufactured in 1987 (Score:3, Interesting)
It was called the Apple IIc and everyone that mentions the history of laptops seems to forget it.
The Apple IIc can be seen in the movie "2010: Odyssey Two" which, by coincidence, also appeared in 1984.
IIRC actor Roy Scheider is seen using it on a beach.
The HX-20; fear and loathing in Chicago (Score:2)
GRiDs rocked - until it died. (Score:2)
That is, until I left it on the floor in the room where we kept our ferrets. The next day when I went to use it, I noticed that one of our ferrets had taken mo
... my Osborne 1 ... (Score:2)
There it was, on page 1, my good old pal the Osborne 1.
My dad bought the Ozzie for his business to do spreadsheets and word processing and quickly outgrew it. Then I got it. All of my high school term papers and essays got cranked out on that thing (WordStar). The little screen (and any accessory monitor you might attach to it) would not accommodate 80 columns, so you had to press ctrl-<left/right_arrow> to scroll the viewable area around to see the hidden portions of the display.
It was
Orange?! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Orange?! (Score:2)
what exactly are you talking about here?
Parents answering those difficult questions (Score:5, Funny)
Re:No Mention of the Kaypro (Score:2)
I had one of those (the original Kaypro). No hard disk...but who needs a hard disk when you have two 360K disk drives? And no DOS...but who needs DOS when you've got good ol' CP/M?
Like (IIRC) the Osborne, it was portable under the military definition; a team of two soldiers would have been able to lug it through a battlefield without a problem. A 12-year-old who hadn't hit his growth spurt yet was SOL, however.
With a built-in 6" green TTY monitor, internal 300 baud modem (which I never managed to get wor