5 Simple Steps to a Quieter PC 430
~*77*~ writes "Silencing a computer can be a costly endeavor, but taking a few relatively inexpensive steps can have a drastic impact on the noise produced by the common computer system. Before starting on any sound reduction upgrades, analyzing a system to pinpoint the areas in need of the most attention will help determine the best course of action and the best way to spend any money."
One Itty Bitty Article (Score:5, Informative)
Silent PC Sites (Score:5, Informative)
Some hardware review sites are dedicated to cooling equipment. One of them is Pimp My Rig [pimp-my-rig.com].
Personally, I replaced my Intel stock fan with the Thermalright XP-90 + Panaflo 92mm L1A. [paraz.com]
My steps towards a quieter system (Score:5, Informative)
1. Installed the BeQuiet sound elimination kit for Chieftec [www.gtek.se]
2. Got a better CPU fan [www.gtek.se]
3. Installed four Zalman 12dB(A) fans [www.gtek.se] in the chassi.
4. Enjoy the sound of nothing.
I only buy Seagate Hard Drives (Score:4, Informative)
Just one big advert for BigBruin.com/geeks.com (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Cool, but... (Score:5, Informative)
Try plugging something in constant use into it that draws a little bit of current, like your nearby clock or lava lamp.
Re:I only buy Seagate Hard Drives (Score:5, Informative)
What you say might have been true for the very old Barracudas, but it's sadly no longer the case.
Re:Shuttle... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Step 1: Buy a Mac (Score:5, Informative)
cpu fan speed control (Score:2, Informative)
Re:I only buy Seagate Hard Drives (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Shuttle... (Score:3, Informative)
More elaborate and practical advise (Score:4, Informative)
Avoid the fanless PSUs (Score:2, Informative)
A point to which I can personally attest -- I bought the Antec fanless power supply, and it failed within 30 days.
Requisite server joke (Score:5, Informative)
Seriously, though, system noise can be reduced pretty easily.
1) Get a heavy case. I was always surprised at the fact that my ex-girlfriend's Aluminum case was much noisier than my steel case, given that I have many more things in my case. Thicker materials (obviously) cut down on noise levels.
2) Get a good PSU. Besides the stability and reliability increase, it pretty much stands to reason that Random-Taiwan-Tech isn't going to be terribly concerned with the sound levels on a $35 PSU if it adds to the cost at all. Antec produces some cool thermal-sensing PSUs that will throttle PSU fan speed based on thermal levles. They also have special fan-only molexes that allow them to do the same thing to any other fans in the case.
3) Switch to the biggest fans you can. It takes fewer RPMs on an 80mm or 120mm fan for it to move the same amount of air as a 60mm fan. This goes for case fans AND CPU fans. Zalman makes some intriguing CPU cooling solutions that separate the fan from the heatsink, and thus use huge, slow, quiet fans. If you want to get fancy, rewire the fans so they operate on 7V or 5V input.
4) Never ever buy a mainboard with a fan on the northbridge. I absolutely hate this design concept. For one, the fans are very small and thus usually noisy. But most importantly, these things are the cheapest designs available, as the mobo manufacturers aren't looking to add major costs to their product. Consequently, they fail much more quickly than many other things. If you're lucky, they'll just up and stop spinning. If you're unlucky, they'll continue spinning, but with a strange squeek or hum as they march toward death. The counterpart to this is your videocard. If you're not planning on gaming, look at one of the lower-end videocards that use a heatsink only.
5) Cut down on vibration. Hard drives are kind of noisy, yes. In my experience, though, it's really the vibrations that contribute to the noise levels. Try to wedge some thin rubber washers between the HDD and the case when you're screwing it in. Some newer case designs actually use a system like this by default, and the noise level reduction is quite impressive.
Outside of these five is when you start getting into specialty areas: Putting noise-absorbing material in the case, using large heat-pipe coolers in place of fans on your video card, moving the computer to a closet and running long cables, etc. Honestly, though, if you follow the above recommendations, you should get something quiet enough that you don't need to worry.
Re:Step 1: Buy a Mac (Score:5, Informative)
I finally received my XServe (2x2.3) and set it up Friday. It is dead quiet. So quiet, in fact, that I had to temporarily shut down the Dell PowerEdge 4600 just to hear it. Still not satisfied, I slid off the top panel for visible proof the fans were running. I spotted only three fans, but the software reports 8 up and running within normal ranges.
For now, I'll trust the blowers tab on Apple's Server Monitor software.
Re:Ummm... what about the HDs? (Score:4, Informative)
Especially since he smoked one when he first put it in.
Go ahead and run over to this place. [extremeoverclocking.com] It's a good guide for testing your PSU.
If you don't have a multi-meter go get one. If you are going to use it only rarely don't worry about spending any real cash. (Though chances are if you start using it you may never stop.... it's addictive)
buy a Dell Optiplex (Score:1, Informative)
Also, it can be had really cheap from Dell Outlet [dell.com]
And you can send it back if it's too noisy--USA ONLY!!
Re:Ummm... what about the HDs? (Score:3, Informative)
Maybe it's not a problem.
An easy danger sign to read occurrs when there is an active load on the system. (HD spinning up, cdrom spinning up, more processor usage) Whatever the activity, if you start using more amperage from the power supply and you can hear your static rate fans drop in speed... your PSU is probably over drawn.
Fairly easy to spot... when the normal whir and hum sounds decidely different.
Re:There is no step 2 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Better yet... (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, you can cet sound via USB, for example the Sound Blaster Extigy
Link to newegg [newegg.com]
Re:There is no step 2 (Score:3, Informative)
Re:There is no step 2 (Score:2, Informative)
$3000 for a good quality high-end computer isn't that expensive. That's about how much high end systems have always cost throughout the years. Hell, a new top of the line PowerMac is probably cheaper than the IBM AT when it was first released. When you factor in the cost of the PowerMac over the 4-6 year lifespan it'll see on your desktop it's not that expensive.
Re:My steps towards a quieter system (Score:4, Informative)
Re:My steps towards a quieter system (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.endpcnoise.com/ [endpcnoise.com]
RTFA before you post nimrod (Score:1, Informative)
how nice, dipwad. well I did RTFA and the steps add a hundred or more dollars: replacing fans, buying fan controllers...
ample ventilation != good ventilation (Score:3, Informative)
Case and point: (no pun intended): I have a Dell inspiron from a year or two ago that has one fan and a molded plastic insert. It is essentially silent at 2.6GHz when playing WarCraft. Just before buying the dell I spent a fortune on a silent supply, funky fans, zallman heatsink and an aluminim chasssis, and with the exact same component configuration as the dell, it is easily 5x louder (subjectively) playing the same game.
based on this, and experience in a chipset validation lab, i think it is smarter to buy an intelligently designed OEM system if you truly want a quiet PC.
Re:I only buy Seagate Hard Drives (Score:4, Informative)
Not according to storagereview.com [storagereview.com]. While the Samsung is quieter, I don't think 0.3 dB qualifies as "quite a bit louder". And that is the only drive quieter than the Seagate.
Re:Ummm... what about the HDs? (Score:3, Informative)
Seagate has the lowest failure rate of any drive mfg I've come across. Maxtor has the highest. This is empirical evidence gathered from the repair of hundreds, possibly thousands of PCs.
I just replaced my IBM DeathStar with a Seagate Barracuda.
Re:Cool, but... (Score:5, Informative)
If it is an APC BE725BB and the sound is a hissing sound, then it is a defect (not safety related, just annoying), and you can get it exchanged. [apc.com]
Re:There is no step 2 (Score:3, Informative)
I apologize for being somewhat offtopic and hope I don't get modded into oblivion. At work my desktop is a Dimension 4600c. This is the absolute loudest machine I've ever heard. I know judging this is subjective, but when I do something CPU intensive the fan goes through five phases starting at silent and ending up roaring. It sounds like a 747 throttling up for takeoff. My Inspirion 8200 laptop is quite loud. You can hear it across the room when it's warm. When it's hot, it's scary.
Just my $.02 about Dell's and volume. They're quite loud, but I guess I'm not pretentious enough to buy a Mac
Re:There is no step 2 (Score:1, Informative)
The expensive way to silence a case (Score:4, Informative)
End result? Nearly silent. Quieter than my thinkpad laptop which doesn't make much noise. I still want a quieter power supply fan though I'm reasonably satisfied with the one I have. Basically anything rated at over 20db is too loud by my standards. Yes, many people will tell you you can hear it and that's true if you are 10+ feet away or have damaged hearing from too much loud music.
Obviously if you want a machine with super high performance, you may need better cooling that I do and better cooling usually equals more noise. My machine is a linux file/print server so I'm not looking for maximal performance, though I do have a SCSI drive system in it. Make sure you keep the air pathways clear if you use the fans I recommend because they don't blow a lot of air. Don't block any ventilation though you can use air filters if you feel the need. Every so often get a can of compressed air and blow out any dust in the system which will help with the cooling.