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KLOSS KL-I915A - SFF With An Edge 113

Kez writes "Shuttle have been synonymous with SFF for a long time now. It would take a lot to make them topple from the top spot, but that doesn't stop companies from trying. Take TriGem, with their new KLOSS KL-I915A system. The interior of the chassis is cleverly partitioned to aid cooling and installation. It has a front display which shows everything from CPU speed to which particular device failed the BIOS power-on self test (which beats a sequence of beeps or LEDs any day.) Add to that an LGA 775 motherboard, and TriGem just might be on to a winner. HEXUS.net have a review."
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KLOSS KL-I915A - SFF With An Edge

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  • Not evident... (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 06, 2005 @01:04PM (#11590667)
    I had to read the whole story to understand what this was about... a pc box, that is.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 06, 2005 @01:05PM (#11590671)
    Does it come with KDE?
  • Arrrrgs acronym overdose with nothing to even entice me to open the article...
  • by bcmm ( 768152 ) on Sunday February 06, 2005 @01:09PM (#11590701)

    WTF?
  • I thought it was about Science Fiction & Fantasy. Disappointment as it turns out to be about a PC...
  • Kloss? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 06, 2005 @01:15PM (#11590743)
    Henry Kloss might have a pretty big problem with this -- I actually assumed this was a Henry Kloss designed or endorsed product until I noticed the TriGem branding, and the fact that KLOSS appears to be an arbitrary fake acronym seems like some pretty sketchy marketing to me.
  • Top Spot? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Andy_R ( 114137 )
    It would take a lot to make them topple from the top spot

    MacMini?
  • I think I'd rather get another 512MB of RAM then get a new case for my computer. I wonder how many people actually have Small-Form Factor cases.(did that take that long to read instead of SFF?)
    • ive got a sff system cuz it was cheaper then buying a full size mobo and case seperately
    • I wonder how many people actually have Small-Form Factor cases

      Everyone who bought the Mac Mini...
    • I think I'd rather get another 512MB of RAM then get a new case for my computer. I wonder how many people actually have Small-Form Factor cases.(did that take that long to read instead of SFF?)

      SFF systems are quite prevalent among those who goto lanparties all the time (as well as college students). It's nice to have an entire system that you can throw in a bag and take with you, and still have an insane amount of power in it.

      Myself, I own a Shuttle SN45G with an AthlonXP 2500 (modestly overclocked to

  • by FiReaNGeL ( 312636 ) <.moc.liamtoh. .ta. .l3gnaerif.> on Sunday February 06, 2005 @01:19PM (#11590769) Homepage
    Hexus.net has an handy review of stuff no one cares about, makes the headlines on Slashdot, submitted by... Kez at steve.kerrison@HEXUS.net. I mean, a new case model? News for nerds. stuff that matters?
    Honestly, is Slashdot becoming just a traffic redirector for its partners?

    If so, please redirect yourself to my sig. No crap products review, just Biology news.
    • Heh. THG had a "First Look" [tomshardware.com] three weeks ago. Whatever generates revenue, I suppose.
    • yah that was definitely a slashvertisement there wasn't anything innovative about it just another shuttle wanna-be! except they put the mobo on top so that u can cook with ur boiling hot p4
    • by unts ( 754160 )
      The submitter (me) could have hidden the fact that he was from HEXUS, but what difference does it make? It's down to the slashdot staff to decide what gets posted, nobody else.

      So you don't find the article interesting... fair enough. Half of the stuff I read on slashdot I find boring, but the other half is great. You can't please everybody all of the time.

      /soapbox

    • Hey, thanks for the link to your bio-news website, and the Mayo Clinic modified-measles treatment for ovarian cancer study link.

      Right now, that's stuff that really matters to me.
  • but did they HAVE to make it look like a clock-radio?

    I'm afraid I'd toss it across the room when I'm half-asleep.
  • In the past when something failed people were pissed. Today they are delighted and say: "Wow, it's recognizing that it's broken!"
  • by Tufriast ( 824996 )
    ...this article was concerning space shuttle contract bids cockpit layout / design. Either that, or new discussion on Enterprise weapons systems.
  • by Monkelectric ( 546685 ) <slashdot@mo n k e l e c t r ic.com> on Sunday February 06, 2005 @01:26PM (#11590814)
    Is this another slashvertisement? And whats with the terrible english:

    Overall, it's a specification to absolutely kick Shuttle's recently released SB77G5 into touch, the KLOSS better specified in nearly all areas. On-board VGA means KLOSS is useful for those on the PEG16X graphics upgrade path, and it makes it appealing to corporates too (although the facia style negates the GMA900 graphics advantage to that market in some respects as you'll see).

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Well, that was a decent overview for a review. My nit with reviews these days is that they tend to leave out some critical information; namely, the BIOS booting options.

    Does the BIOS *actually* support booting over the Ethernet and/or a USB device??? Both are now critical IMHO, especially for a serious IT environment. And for the home
    environment, where one has lots of systems. Doing installations, and customizations, by hand is just too primative.

    PXE boot is required for automated imaging (for example, vi
  • I know this may be off-topic, but I find those sponsored links horribly distracting. To see the page (and many others) as it is supposed to be:

    1) Install Adblock [mozdev.org]
    2) Add the filter: *intellitxt.com
  • by bgarcia ( 33222 ) on Sunday February 06, 2005 @01:38PM (#11590886) Homepage Journal
    Shuttle have been synonymous with SFF for a long time now.
    Space-Faring Flyer?
    Sanitary Femanine Fermentation?
    Shit-Faced Friend?


    Hello???
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Shuttle have been synonymous with SFF for a long time now.

    That was before SFF was redefined on 11 Jan 2005.
  • That unreliable? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    It has a front display which shows everything from CPU speed to which particular device failed the BIOS power-on self test

    Are these things really that unreliable that this is necessary? I mean, yes, BIOS beeps are a little cryptic, but the frequency with which they should need to be used doesn't really warrant the expense of putting anything more friendly.

  • It may be 'cleverly partitioned to aid cooling' but overall, having two fans sucking air out at the back (one of them just 40mm, plus a hole for one more), a large CPU fan, and possibly another one on the graphics card doesn't strike me as very clever. When will they start sticking one large 120mm fan in the back and cool everything - including the power supply, CPU and graphics card with heat pipes and ducts?

    Although I have to admit that the front display is seems nice.
  • Is here [techreport.com], for now.

    Looks like a nicely-thought-out little case. But what would I do if my tower wasn't sitting here acting as a fashionable end table?
  • The article starts off supposed to be a review of a small form factor case. Most of the 'bragging features', like displaying which device failed a POST, only work with the recomended motherboard or maybe a few others, and there are some small form factor boards that will fit this case but won't let those features work. Someone shouhd have just started off writing a review that covers a bare bones system and not wasted time trying to just review the case and having to straddle the line.
  • Nothing special.. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by starman97 ( 29863 ) on Sunday February 06, 2005 @02:23PM (#11591165)
    IMO of course.. :)

    This thing has tons of wasted space inside.
    The CPU location blocks the use of higher performance
    video cards and there's all this empty space up on the CPU board area.
    Yeah, it's got a nice VFD (vacuum florescent display) ,
    but it only works with the latest OSs from Microsoft.
    This is still a desktop form factor machine, you cant put it into your stereo rack,
    and it wont go on the floor either.
    You cant put anything on top of it because it will block the CPU fan.
    • Possibly the drawback to having such a high speed processor in there?

      I'd like to see a similar design, but smaller and perhaps EPIA-SP based. Cooler, quieter, and still jazzy.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    I used to have a Shuttle PC until the motherboard died. The thing about these small PCs is that they are proprietary and heavily integrated. So if something goes wrong, thats pretty much the end of the PC.
    • That's not true for mini-ITX based systems.
      You do pay a bit of a premium and your choices
      are limited, relative to ATX FF MBs, but they
      are an off-the-shelf item, and there IS a
      selection, ranging from fanless 1GHz C3s to
      HT P4s, with a wide variety of IO options.
  • Does anyone else find the "Sponsored Links" in TFA unbelievably annoying? I stopped reading after the second page because of this. This story is out and out ad-spam.
  • Jesus, this thing looks like a cheap-ass clock radio.
  • Why are PC's still so damn fugly? You'd think at least one vendor could make a computer that doesn't look like it was designed to appeal to teenagers who pimp out their Honda Civics with neon, spoilers and rims. Apple hit a homerun on their first at bat with the Mac Mini - these other clowns can't even find the locker room, let alone home base.

    And does this thing have enough fans in it, or what? Probably sounds like a bloody hairdryer when it's up and running. I'd rather have a box the size of a coffee
  • It's very extremely dissapointing that the form factor chosen for these small PC's has pretty much exclusively been something toaster-sized. I understand that it fits well for a little luggable for lan parties and whatnot (especially with the top mounted handle) but they certainly don't make the most ideal HTPC. This one is really going for it and if it weren't 7" tall or so, I might consider it. how do you expect to fit this into an AV stack reasonably?

    (Yes I know there are a few other manufacturers makin
  • Shuttle have been synonymous with SFF for a long time now. It would take a lot to make them topple from the top spot.
    No, it would take a little. A very little [apple.com].

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